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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #210 on: December 09, 2015, 01:31:46 AM »
Was wondering when Coburg Cleary would pop his head up - his cup runneth over with a Richmond player being involved as well...

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #211 on: December 09, 2015, 01:38:03 AM »
"the chopstick snap"......what a farce :banghead
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Tiger troubles: Dustin Martin's rap sheet (Age)
« Reply #212 on: December 09, 2015, 01:58:58 AM »
Tiger troubles: Dustin Martin's rap sheet

Ronny Lerner
Sports reporter at The Age
December 9, 2015


Dustin Martin is in trouble again after his chopstick stab threat levelled at a woman in a Melbourne restaurant last Saturday night.

The star Richmond 24-year-old has been in hot water before.

August 27, 2015


Fined $2000 for delivering a "two-finger salute" to Collingwood fans the previous weekend during Richmond's 91-point demolition of the Magpies.

September 18, 2014

Suspended from driving for two months and fined $750 for driving while suspended. The initial suspension was imposed for running a red light in 2013.

September 11, 2013


Hit with a $2000 suspended fine by the AFL for making a handcuffs gesture after kicking a goal during Richmond's elimination final loss to Carlton.

July 4, 2012

Suspended for two weeks by Richmond for sleeping in the previous morning and failing to attend a training session. Martin admitted he had taken sleeping tablets combined with alcohol the night before the training session.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tiger-troubles-dustin-martins-rap-sheet-20151208-gli2ps.html

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Victim's account will shape Richmond star Dustin Martin's punishment (Age)
« Reply #213 on: December 09, 2015, 02:01:04 AM »
Victim's account will shape Richmond Tigers star Dustin Martin's punishment

  Caroline Wilson
    The Age
    December 9, 2015


Richmond's perceived failure to read the room on the day Dustin Martin's violent threat to a woman became public has emerged as one of many complexities in the troubled world in which the explosive young footballer has been known to live.

The woman, a Channel Seven producer who does not want to be named, was interviewed late on Tuesday by the Tigers' integrity officer Steve Wyatt, in a meeting held in conjunction with AFL investigators.

It will be her version of events that holds the key to Martin's ultimate penalty.

Martin will not escape punishment but the strong view of the club, backed by the AFL, is that whether the woman felt in physical danger or was the victim of an obnoxious and verbally vicious drunk will shape the severity of his punishment.

Neither alternative is palatable, but if she felt at risk of physical harm this should be a matter for the police, and Martin should be charged.

If not, the Tigers face a difficult call on how best to penalise their problem child, who they insist has not previously shown signs of violence and who the club has managed to steer through some difficult times with notable success.

In an ideal world Richmond would come down heavily on Martin this week, issuing a long-term suspension of four to six weeks, similar to what Geelong and its leadership group inflicted in 2007 upon Steve Johnson.

In the same year Stevie J emerged with a Norm Smith Medal around his neck.

But this is not an ideal world. In fact, Martin's world is far from ideal, and for the Tigers he remains a week-to-week proposition. Or in the case of summer seasons past, at times a day-to-day proposition.

The entanglements of Martin's lifestyle, upbringing, emotional wellbeing and sometimes dreadful social habits have always combined to see Richmond steer away from punishment.

The focus has been on keeping the player on an even keel. The key, according to the club, has been to maintain routine and regularity in his life. Never mind that Martin still struggles sometimes to behave; that his end-of-season trips with the likes of Dane Swan become journeys other players are told to stay away from (when it became known that Collingwood's Marley Williams planned to join the pair this year on a leg of their US holiday, concerned Magpie people contacted the club); that some of the company he keeps is genuinely troubling.

While there has been no suggestion other substances were involved in Saturday night's incident, Martin certainly faces scrutiny from the AFL's new, tougher drug-testing regime.

The criticism surrounding the Tigers' initial response was overstated and in some cases unfair.

It was Martin's connections that reportedly saw the Channel Seven producer initially back away from telling her story in public. That she feared for her safety. The club's view was she had accepted Martin's apology and spoke publicly only after some pressure from network bosses.

The network's view was the Tigers attempted to downplay the situation through the original wording of their press statement – a move that saw the victim change her mind. Both sides deny the other's version of events.

So the responses of Richmond's executives, from Brendon Gale down, have been queried. Gale, a male sporting champion of change, spoke on Tuesday of his abhorrence of violence towards women, but there has been a view he should have spoken immediately after the story became public.

Football boss Daniel Richardson's use of the word hiccup was attacked when referring to this latest Martin transgression.

So Martin has challenged his club all over again. The Richmond view is club bosses can do or say nothing truly of substance until they have all the facts. In the end, though, however deep his troubles and however low his tolerance for alcohol, Martin must be held accountable.

There can be specialised treatment of different souls at football clubs, but not leniency in a case such as this. And if Martin is found to have intimidated the woman to the point she felt at risk of a violent attack, then this is a matter for the police and not simply the AFL.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/victims-account-will-shape-richmond-tigers-star-dustin-martins-punishment-20151208-glipay.html

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #214 on: December 09, 2015, 02:24:51 AM »
Hahahahahaha cleary  well FMD. Can we get Rosie Batie's opinion in for good measure.

The media and others, are running with the gender card and for that they can shove it up their date. Said it before il say it again if it was a bloke this would be laughed at, just like the old copper was laughing at the races.
Remember that  :thumbsup

It was a mistake  he admits he was an idiot and you move on with a small punishment of a few weeks
To turn this into a violence against woman circus is a joke IMO. Can someone anyone explain how this has received more air time than the hodgy incident??
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #215 on: December 09, 2015, 06:50:22 AM »
Ok this is just ridiculous now. Copping it worse than if he were caught taking drugs on camera, drink driving or committing destruction of property. If it's a matter for the police then why did she not go there instead of waiting a couple days to make a story out of it? It's clearly a stitch up. Stuff me.

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #216 on: December 09, 2015, 06:52:35 AM »
Lol Caro,
Then he grabbed two chopsticks and stuck them in his mouth , pretending to be a walrus

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #217 on: December 09, 2015, 06:59:48 AM »
I'm glad the club is looking to do a full investigation of the facts and base their decision on that.
Plenty seem to be quite content to be judge, jury and executioner of both sides regardless of understanding what unfolded.

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #218 on: December 09, 2015, 07:07:46 AM »
This is targetting players unfairly, reading his supposed "rap sheet" you would think he was the mastermind behind the twin towers.

The press will not be happy until they hound some poor player into committing suicide.

Dusty, not an ideal incident, but we are all susceptible to the demon alcohol, he has apologised, lets move on please.

RFC should stand by Dusty in this instance and tell the AFL to GFThemselves
« Last Edit: December 09, 2015, 07:47:44 AM by MintOnLamb »

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #219 on: December 09, 2015, 07:12:41 AM »


RFC should stand by Dusty in this instance and tell the AFL to GFThemselves

Good luck with that , we will bend over and accept whatever the afl wants.
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #220 on: December 09, 2015, 07:47:06 AM »


RFC should stand by Dusty in this instance and tell the AFL to GFThemselves

Good luck with that , we will bend over and accept whatever the afl wants.
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Agree, but that would make a REAL news story

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #221 on: December 09, 2015, 08:08:38 AM »
Nathan Bock
 assaulted girlfriend in public
 threw a glass of beer in her face
 was escorted from the premises
 caused $2500 property damage
 was charged & put on a good behaviour bond

AFL-sanctioned punishment: one match + $5K fine

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #222 on: December 09, 2015, 08:35:20 AM »
So any afl player is in reality an indentured slave of the AFL throughout their whole playing career, 24/7, 365 days pa.

Its a bloody big ask to have @800 fit  young blokes running around the country with not one blemish against any of their names at the threat of "bringing the game into disrepute"

The Boak judgement puts Dustys blip down to a slap on the hand

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #223 on: December 09, 2015, 08:49:22 AM »
sweet so just to update

Alan Didak
Hodgy
Bock
chick who pushed a cop

anyone else who copped a slap on the wrist or a year out?
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Re: Victim's account will shape Richmond star Dustin Martin's punishment (Age)
« Reply #224 on: December 09, 2015, 09:31:16 AM »
Victim's account will shape Richmond Tigers star Dustin Martin's punishment

  Caroline Wilson
    The Age
    December 9, 2015




Neither alternative is palatable, but if she felt at risk of physical harm this should be a matter for the police, and Martin should be charged.
. And if Martin is found to have intimidated the woman to the point she felt at risk of a violent attack, then this is a matter for the police and not simply the AFL.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/victims-account-will-shape-richmond-tigers-star-dustin-martins-punishment-20151208-glipay.html

And if the police think that there are no charges to face, what then?

If the police got involved and charged every drunk person who threatened but never hurt anybody, our courts would have at least a 10 year waiting period.

Let the guy do community service for the nest 3 months. Let him front up and serve soup to the homeless. Let him attend AA meetings or something similar, because if alcohol and violence where his issues, how is missing a few games of football going to educate him?
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