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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: jackstar is back again on March 25, 2010, 10:56:22 PM
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I have seen enough and dont want to see much more of the following.
Edwards, I rather play McMahon ::)
Nahas, -wont make it , why ? as any player who continually takes him eye off the ball and looks for his opponents and then lets his opponent attack the ball aint going to make, supporters GET OVER IT.
Tambling, been a fan of his, but my patience is running thin.
Twice stuck one hand out to get the ball,and didnt want to put his body on the line, BAD SIGNS.
Chrs Newman, did he play tonight ::)?
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problems run deeper jacko ... very bad performace. some parts good some parts bad very bad.
Carltons average midfielders like most sides (not us) players like carrazzo and simpson - they work much harder than any of our midfielders and our average midfielders are no where near the level of the likes of carazzo or simpson.
newman cant be captain
our key position defenders are going backwards at a rate of knots
we dont have a ruckman
we dont have any key forwards- but griffiths and astbury offer hope.
to many mistakes, not enough smart footballers, hardwicks got his job in front of him, but its a long long road back imho.
and thats just a start.
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i didnt thin edwards was our worst player out there, agree on Nahas, I have been off him for a little while now..Jake King is a better player than him
Tambling needs to be accountable for ordinary performances like that...He was not involved in one offensive passage of play...I heard we had 3 bounces all night...Gee...
Richie will be washed up soon if he doesnt wake up...white is more attacking
and Mcmahon actually does carry the ball, is elusive and should be able to be played to effect.
PS...why were players going for Hislop all night like he was wayne carey...he wasn't the worst but a lead up forward c'mon
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It's been asked before many times, but what kind of team was Terry trying to build?
The one thing I gave Terry was that he'd probably leave our list in better shape than Spud, now i'm not so sure.
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It's been asked before many times, but what kind of team was Terry trying to build?
The one thing I gave Terry was that he'd probably leave our list in better shape than Spud, now i'm not so sure.
hardwick cleaned out 14 and he needs to do atleast another 12 ... what list did wallace leave?
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i didnt thin edwards was our worst player out there, agree on Nahas, I have been off him for a little while now..Jake King is a better player than him
Tambling needs to be accountable for ordinary performances like that...He was not involved in one offensive passage of play...I heard we had 3 bounces all night...Gee...
Richie will be washed up soon if he doesnt wake up...white is more attacking
and Mcmahon actually does carry the ball, is elusive and should be able to be played to effect.
PS...why were players going for Hislop all night like he was wayne carey...he wasn't the worst but a lead up forward c'mon
Were they all Roberts?
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It's been asked before many times, but what kind of team was Terry trying to build?
The one thing I gave Terry was that he'd probably leave our list in better shape than Spud, now i'm not so sure.
hardwick cleaned out 14 and he needs to do atleast another 12 ... what list did wallace leave?
That's why I said now i'm not so sure.
Terry used the draft a little more than Spud, but he didn't use it very well.
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i didnt thin edwards was our worst player out there, agree on Nahas, I have been off him for a little while now..Jake King is a better player than him
Tambling needs to be accountable for ordinary performances like that...He was not involved in one offensive passage of play...I heard we had 3 bounces all night...Gee...
Richie will be washed up soon if he doesnt wake up...white is more attacking
and Mcmahon actually does carry the ball, is elusive and should be able to be played to effect.
PS...why were players going for Hislop all night like he was wayne carey...he wasn't the worst but a lead up forward c'mon
Were they all Roberts?
I saw Nason have one
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Tambling is the most softest timid footballer ive seen take the field. IMO he rivals Mclovin. Cant lay a tackle if his life depended on it and to be honest he offers nothing to this team.
Is he supposed to be quick and agile because from where im sitting he is slow and weak.
Trade!!!
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We still don't run hard to create options, it's pathetic
At least we are chasing harder (well some are) when the opposition has the ball, there seems to be a bit more urgency
However we are just flat footed when we have the ball, any player will look like they have average skills when their team mates aren't running into space for them
Roberts was trying hard and giving some good leads early but kept getting ignored and then ran out of puff I think
Nason tried hard all day, made the odd mistake but never gave up, he kept creating an option, happy to persist with him based on that
Newman was terrible, as was Tambling and Simmonds hopeless, one of his non existant efforts to chase had me furious
Their midfielders realised about half way through the 2nd quarter that if they just run through congestion at stoppages they were able to run through our players and just burst through into space. It was like they were made of teflon, pathetic.
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Strange. I saw it that Tambling did plenty enough tackling, but finding the ball enough was his issue. Still, needs to lift his workrate.
And Newman, well I'll just leave that to WP. :rollin
Not to mention Jackson and Moore have no improvement left in them. Play Post and Collins next week instead please, players who have more upside to gain with experience.
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made us look and sound worse when the commentators was talking about how many low picks we have in our team playing for us.
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Tambling is the most softest timid footballer ive seen take the field. IMO he rivals Mclovin. Cant lay a tackle if his life depended on it and to be honest he offers nothing to this team.
He made 9 tackles in the game. Disappointing overall though I agree.
He had a few higher profile mates though.
made us look and sound worse when the commentators was talking about how many low picks we have in our team playing for us.
Yet when the Dees are rebuilding their future is bright?!
Early days. I won't panic after one game. i won't even panic if we cop hidings all year.
Nason is going to be a player. That was my only highlight for the night.
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Strange. I saw it that Tambling did plenty enough tackling, but finding the ball enough was his issue. Still, needs to lift his workrate
agree with this, prob the hardest ive seen him hit the contest and man, no issue withthat part, very dissapointed with his productivity
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The most frustrating thing for me tonight other than watching Jackson, Thompson, Hislop, Tambling, Conners and Edwards is us still guarding space and not going 100% at the man to tackle. I don't mind if they get around us but put some pressure on! Footy is a simple game and the more pressure you put on the opposition when they have the ball the more mistakes they make. Standing off your man only gives the opposition time to dispose of the footy when they have it. RUN THE stuff AT THEM AND TACKLE THEM AND THEY WILL TURN IT OVER!!!!!
Play tight and make it 1 on 1. Our boys are coached to correl the player and not to ATTACK the man.
Give our boys the chance to take them on.
Same old Richmond tonight, nothing has changed from the TW crap!
I didn't expect to win tonight, but all i wanted to see was a different style of footy.
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The most frustrating thing for me tonight other than watching Jackson, Thompson, Hislop, Tambling, Conners and Edwards is us still guarding space and not going 100% at the man to tackle. I don't mind if they get around us but put some pressure on! Footy is a simple game and the more pressure you put on the opposition when they have the ball the more mistakes they make. Standing off your man only gives the opposition time to dispose of the footy when they have it. RUN THE eff AT THEM AND TACKLE THEM AND THEY WILL TURN IT OVER!!!!!
Play tight and make it 1 on 1. Our boys are coached to correl the player and not to ATTACK the man.
Give our boys the chance to take them on.
Same old Richmond tonight, nothing has changed from the TW crap!
I didn't expect to win tonight, but all i wanted to see was a different style of footy.
Firstly, it's Thomson. Secondly, are you serious? They were 3 of our best 5 players.
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Newman and Deledio are pathetic.
Newman is as inspiring as a cold bicket of vomit and deledio is a poofter.
I fuckein hate their guts with a passion.
weak dogs.
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Actually I liked what i saw tonight, sure there is lots of improvement to be had but that is to be expected, all out youngsters were done by the speed of the game the only one that was up to it initially was Nason. Martin got better as the game progressed and excelled in the 4th Quarter when the speed of the game slowed a little. I saw a team tonight that was slow and lazy but we were able to stay with the blues for 3 quarters.
Vickery needs to learn to work harder in getting to ruck contests, simmonds actually had a good game. Conners I thought had an outstanding game, yes he made some bad errors but he had fight and spunk and really played well. We never stopped trying, but ran out of puff in the last quarter. From where we are at as a playing group it was good, there were mistakes, lots in fact, but it could have been worse, alot worse in fact. We hung tough as much as we could. It was a good effort for round one.
Players that need to come in for next week.
Post
Polak
3 player that are going to be crucial for us to develop properly are
Griffiths
Astbury
Post
Griffiths and Astbury need to get in there as fast as possible to help Reiwoldt.
Post can play either end of the ground and can float between forward and back to help out. but if we can make Griffiths a full forward and Reiwoldt A CHF Post can make it as CHB.
What killed us tonight was slowness, laziness, inexperience and not enough time together as a group. We will get better alot better after some time and a few almighty thrashings. Western Bulldogs may very well tear us a new one next week.
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I watched the full game from the UK. Overall, was expecting this type of performance. Some good signs, but missed major basic rules. Backline let in too much space with their opponents. Coupled with the skill level mistakes in the back, this cost us atleast 5 goals.
Thought the midfield looked better as the game went on, but the half forward line looked a mess towards the end of the game. Loads of errors from both sides. I know it was a hot night, but worrying signs of tigers whose fitness levels didnt look good at all.
Positives
Nason, although a little loose in a couple of passages of play, looked like he will be a player.
Martin, got better as the game went on
Roberts, got involved, not bad for a rookie that 4 months ago was playing country footy and as fitness improves throughout the year, so will the bag of tricks he has.
Cotchin. Yep, lacked a yard of pace through the reduced program, but uses the ball so well and reads the play to the teams advantage nearly all the time.
other thoughts
Hislop. Was one of his best games for us, which is saying something, but gee, if this bloke is one of our leading small forwards this year, we are going to struggle to kick a score.
Cousins - poor game by his standards, but very important for a number of passages where we actually looked threatening
Jack and Morton. Poor delivery in, but both missed some gettable shots. Not the worst.
Deledio wasnt brilliant, and maybe we expect too much sometimes, but I thought he should have thrown his weight around a bit more against the carlscum midfield.
Jackson, cant fault his endeavour, but lacks polish and makes some poor decisions
Tambling, just couldnt get into it. I would have thrown him on the ball in the first half to get his confidence up.
Newman, the same . One of his worst games, and made some errors.
Connors, looked good in passages, but made some crucial errors down back, looked lazy marking up on opponents. The same can be said for Farmer. Yarran and Betts got too much of a free run. I saw Leppisch get stuck into them at 3/4 time. Just keep getting stuck into them.
Nahas. Pushed off the ball too easily. Gets enough of it, but doesnt damage with his delivery and play. Will struggle to keep his place.
The back three. I thought Moore was the best, but these three had better get some more bulk on them to be able to make contests.
Edwards. Shocker. Had a bit of the ball but cost us 4 goals in errors. if Hardwick is serious, he will get dropped next week
Vickery. The guy doesnt seem to have any motor. With the absence in the ruck contests in our forward 50, I saw Vickery 50 m behind play, yet the Kruz was running along to make the contest.
Thomson. Why we traded for this bloke I dont know. Played on the ball all night, tried hard, but not a bona fide midfielder. Lacks the class to hurt opposition.
Simmonds. Contested where he could, and had no big man help. saying that, we have little option but testing all our rucks throughout this year with Simmonds.
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Tonights game just reinforced the fact that things are going to get worse before they get better.
I thought the fight back in the 1st and 2nd quarters was very stirring stuff....however the 2nd half fade out was disappointing.
The fact we had more scoring shots in the first half was a positive.
What the hell was going on with our rucks......diabolical tonight.
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I enjoyed watching all the new kids
Enjoyed the way they fought back each time the Blues got way ahead and got back into the game
I didn't think we'd get within 100 points with the young team we fielded, so I came away satisfied
They were very raw, but I wasn't totally unhappy with what I saw
They were rudderless again, so the result should not be a surprise
Nason made a few mistakes but I liked his attitude and attack on the ball
Some of the seniors playing for Coburg this week, I hope they have a go and earn their spots back. Will need a few back, to say the least, against the Bulldogs :help
But I hope Hardwick persists with players earning their spots
It's gonna be a really long "developing" year for the club
Hang in there!
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3 player that are going to be crucial for us to develop properly are
Griffiths
Astbury
Post
Griffiths and Astbury need to get in there as fast as possible to help Reiwoldt.
Post can play either end of the ground and can float between forward and back to help out. but if we can make Griffiths a full forward and Reiwoldt A CHF Post can make it as CHB.
What killed us tonight was slowness, laziness, inexperience and not enough time together as a group. We will get better alot better after some time and a few almighty thrashings. Western Bulldogs may very well tear us a new one next week.
Agree with this 100% - especially the need to structure up properly up forward with bigger players. On another note our key defenders are not up to it and Id be looking for player for player swaps come years end. Just my opinion thats all.
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Hislop not good enough. Does not get enough of the ball. Get rid of him. Edwards had a pathetic game. Connors tried hard. Cousins and Jack are all class. Jackson makes too many skill errors but at least he can tackle. Keep persisting with Vickery. Did not get enough of the hard ball last night. Bring in Tuck. Need to work on tackling. How Scotland could evade so many tackles is very poor.
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Tambling is the most softest timid footballer ive seen take the field. IMO he rivals Mclovin. Cant lay a tackle if his life depended on it and to be honest he offers nothing to this team.
Seeing he had 8 (I think it was) tackles for the night and may have been the highest in that stat - that really isa staggering statement daniel. Richie had a terrible night but wasn't the only one of our "senior" players to have one.
Enjoyed the kids - took alot of positives from that
And Newman, well I'll just leave that to WP. :rollin
Pass ;D I'll leave that to MT :rollin
Not to mention Jackson and Moore have no improvement left in them.
Understand where you are coming from here - was disappointed with Jackson's game. I know he was one of our highest ball winners but the "hap hazard" kicks and poor decisions .... ::)
Connors, looked good in passages, but made some crucial errors down back, looked lazy marking up on opponents. .
Bingo ;D - MT can pass on my thoughts about youung Dan Connors :rollin
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Tambling is the most softest timid footballer ive seen take the field. IMO he rivals Mclovin. Cant lay a tackle if his life depended on it and to be honest he offers nothing to this team.
He made 9 tackles in the game. Disappointing overall though I agree.
He had a few higher profile mates though.
made us look and sound worse when the commentators was talking about how many low picks we have in our team playing for us.
Yet when the Dees are rebuilding their future is bright?!
Early days. I won't panic after one game. i won't even panic if we cop hidings all year.
Nason is going to be a player. That was my only highlight for the night.
no there is no reason to panic but seriously when you see your pathetic captain play the way he played you have to seriously question what the hell was Mr Solarium thinking to give him number 17.
On your other point about Tambling dont tell me he laid 9 tackles, THATS ACTUALLY STUCK.
i am not interested in half hearted tackles like his one on defensive 50 which resulted in a carlton Goal. Morton's tackle in the 3rd quarter i think,
NOW THATS A TACKLE.
Tambling has some currency left, he brings nothing to the team not one thing, Get rid of him come seasons end and take that tooth pick piece of poo Edwards with him too.
Nason improved as the game went on but there should be room for one of him and Nahas, not both!!
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The most frustrating thing for me tonight other than watching Jackson, Thompson, Hislop, Tambling, Conners and Edwards is us still guarding space and not going 100% at the man to tackle. I don't mind if they get around us but put some pressure on! Footy is a simple game and the more pressure you put on the opposition when they have the ball the more mistakes they make. Standing off your man only gives the opposition time to dispose of the footy when they have it. RUN THE eff AT THEM AND TACKLE THEM AND THEY WILL TURN IT OVER!!!!!
Play tight and make it 1 on 1. Our boys are coached to correl the player and not to ATTACK the man.
Give our boys the chance to take them on.
Same old Richmond tonight, nothing has changed from the TW crap!
I didn't expect to win tonight, but all i wanted to see was a different style of footy.
Firstly, it's Thomson. Secondly, are you serious? They were 3 of our best 5 players.
TOTALLY AGREE WITH BIG TONE.
You cant have onballers like Thomson wanting to bump opposition and not tackle. He aint up to it.
Jacksons shot at goal in the 2nd quarter wasnt good.
Have had enough of Tambling, puts one hand in and not his body. -not good.
Connors has ability but no brains.
As for Edwards, simply not up to it..
Hislop tries hard and thats it
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Conners ;D
Someone once said he take on Barry Hall :lol can tell ya he copped a few last night that had him looking around him
too one sided, came to the club thinking he was better than he was & was not a team player.
Should have been traded because he offers no value & damaged himself with his bad attitude :cheers
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TOTALLY AGREE WITH BIG TONE.
You cant have onballers like Thomson wanting to bump opposition and not tackle. He aint up to it.
Jacksons shot at goal in the 2nd quarter wasnt good.
Have had enough of Tambling, puts one hand in and not his body. -not good.
Connors has ability but no brains.
As for Edwards, simply not up to it..
Hislop tries hard and thats it
Tambling ;D l will buy his ticket back to the reservation he came from ;D
sadly l see him as one of those players who has lost interest after finding pussy :lol
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as big rex always liked to say - theres no greater power than the power of the pussy ;D
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Not sure where some of you are coming from regarding some of you player judgments ??? Can't tell you the amount of time Tambling was free or on the lead and the players ignored him. He is one of the few players in the team that I feel confidence with when he has the ball in his hands. Last night he didn't let me down by foot. I think he was a bit lost in his new position.
Similarly, Robert presented all night only to be frequently ignored. Did run out of steam as the game progressed though.
Lids shadowed Gibbs most of the night which is why he did not see as much of the ball in space as he normally would.
The ruck situation was a disgrace! The amount of times when NO ONE went up for the ruck for us or even when Beeny Cousins had to contest against Warnock was ludicrous! :banghead We obviously need to play three ruckmen in future games if we are not going to rest them and play them in the forwardline as they don't have the constitution to make it to every contest without a break. Simmonds seems slow and can barely get off the found anymore. This is a major worry for mine! :help
The backline looked disorganised and weak. The amount of time Moore slapped the ball over the line, or we just couldn't get the ball out of the F50 was ridiculous. Post is a MUST. He has the aerial skills to match it with the bigger forwards and is now of a better size too. Just think one of the three big backs need to step aside for him. I hope to hell Rance finds his mojo back too but I think this is unlikely.
Happy with the first gamers and happy with Connors game despite trying to take on the opposition too many times when he could have just quickly passed it on. Nahas was well held all night. Cousins had a poor night as did Newman.
Some nice passages but overall not a lot to cling too for us long suffering fanatics. :'(
Stripes
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3 player that are going to be crucial for us to develop properly are
Griffiths
Astbury
Post
Griffiths and Astbury need to get in there as fast as possible to help Reiwoldt.
Post can play either end of the ground and can float between forward and back to help out. but if we can make Griffiths a full forward and Reiwoldt A CHF Post can make it as CHB.
What killed us tonight was slowness, laziness, inexperience and not enough time together as a group. We will get better alot better after some time and a few almighty thrashings. Western Bulldogs may very well tear us a new one next week.
Agree with this 100% - especially the need to structure up properly up forward with bigger players. On another note our key defenders are not up to it and Id be looking for player for player swaps come years end. Just my opinion thats all.
100% Agree Ramps.
Moore 26 or whatever wont be in our next premiership. Trade
McGuane has upside for Gold Coast. Trade
Thursfield, needs mates who can kick out of defense well and midfielders that put pressure on the kicker. Would persist with but needs more improvement
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I'm pretty sure McGuane is already signed with us.
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3 player that are going to be crucial for us to develop properly are
Griffiths
Astbury
Post
Griffiths and Astbury need to get in there as fast as possible to help Reiwoldt.
Post can play either end of the ground and can float between forward and back to help out. but if we can make Griffiths a full forward and Reiwoldt A CHF Post can make it as CHB.
What killed us tonight was slowness, laziness, inexperience and not enough time together as a group. We will get better alot better after some time and a few almighty thrashings. Western Bulldogs may very well tear us a new one next week.
Agree with this 100% - especially the need to structure up properly up forward with bigger players. On another note our key defenders are not up to it and Id be looking for player for player swaps come years end. Just my opinion thats all.
100% Agree Ramps.
Moore 26 or whatever wont be in our next premiership. Trade
McGuane has upside for Gold Coast. Trade
Thursfield, needs mates who can kick out of defense well and midfielders that put pressure on the kicker. Would persist with but needs more improvement
And who would we play on opposition forwards then?
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I just though our more established players didn't stand up in game one
And I thought that our line from stuff to full forward was weak.
The first half showed something that we could be in for.
And the second half I hated and I hope we don't see more of that.
Also I liked the game Connor played, but some didn't.
So we must have been watching differnt games.
Newman showed he is not a leader. So give it to Ben for this year.
Then give it to a player like Cotchin if he can stay healthy next year.
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3 player that are going to be crucial for us to develop properly are
Griffiths
Astbury
Post
Griffiths and Astbury need to get in there as fast as possible to help Reiwoldt.
Post can play either end of the ground and can float between forward and back to help out. but if we can make Griffiths a full forward and Reiwoldt A CHF Post can make it as CHB.
What killed us tonight was slowness, laziness, inexperience and not enough time together as a group. We will get better alot better after some time and a few almighty thrashings. Western Bulldogs may very well tear us a new one next week.
Agree with this 100% - especially the need to structure up properly up forward with bigger players. On another note our key defenders are not up to it and Id be looking for player for player swaps come years end. Just my opinion thats all.
100% Agree Ramps.
Moore 26 or whatever wont be in our next premiership. Trade
McGuane has upside for Gold Coast. Trade
Thursfield, needs mates who can kick out of defense well and midfielders that put pressure on the kicker. Would persist with but needs more improvement
And who would we play on opposition forwards then?
Draft KP backmen, Gourdis and Post.
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I'm pretty sure McGuane is already signed with us.
YEP
3 X $450,000 ::)
Dont know what worse. Jordy at $330,000 or McGaune at $450,000
Neither can play.
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I'm pretty sure McGuane is already signed with us.
YEP
3 X $450,000 ::)
Dont know what worse. Jordy at $330,000 or McGaune at $450,000
Neither can play.
i just can't believe that... Getting payed more than someone like Sam Gilbert from the Saints or any number of better defenders.
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I'm pretty sure McGuane is already signed with us.
YEP
3 X $450,000 ::)
Dont know what worse. Jordy at $330,000 or McGaune at $450,000
Neither can play.
i just can't believe that... Getting payed more than someone like Sam Gilbert from the Saints or any number of better defenders.
Can assure you that is correct
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I'm pretty sure McGuane is already signed with us.
YEP
3 X $450,000 ::)
Dont know what worse. Jordy at $330,000 or McGaune at $450,000
Neither can play.
i just can't believe that... Getting payed more than someone like Sam Gilbert from the Saints or any number of better defenders.
Can assure you that is correct
He be scraping to get $275k if l was running the club
fair dinkum l seen some sloppy defenders but these guys are seriouly going backwards
Give credit to Waite his a very good player but Moore, McGuane & Thurfield are not readers of the game & are brainless most times
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I'm pretty sure McGuane is already signed with us.
YEP
3 X $450,000 ::)
Dont know what worse. Jordy at $330,000 or McGaune at $450,000
Neither can play.
i just can't believe that... Getting payed more than someone like Sam Gilbert from the Saints or any number of better defenders.
Can assure you that is correct
sorry but unless i can get it confirmed, this seems OTT ridiculous
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I'm pretty sure McGuane is already signed with us.
YEP
3 X $450,000 ::)
Dont know what worse. Jordy at $330,000 or McGaune at $450,000
Neither can play.
Mcguane is worse Jack and i never thought i would say such a thing.
He is a hack. Ever since his pitiful effort in round 1 last year against the blues he has got worse and worse,
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I'm pretty sure McGuane is already signed with us.
YEP
3 X $450,000 ::)
Dont know what worse. Jordy at $330,000 or McGaune at $450,000
Neither can play.
i just can't believe that... Getting payed more than someone like Sam Gilbert from the Saints or any number of better defenders.
Can assure you that is correct
sorry but unless i can get it confirmed, this seems OTT ridiculous
Well I will confirm it for you.
Was out of contract after last year, held Richmond to "'ransom ""for 3 year deal,as Gold Coast were very interested.
Dont forget we have to pay over 92% of the salary cap, so these duds are getting well overpaid.
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I'm pretty sure McGuane is already signed with us.
YEP
3 X $450,000 ::)
Dont know what worse. Jordy at $330,000 or McGaune at $450,000
Neither can play.
i just can't believe that... Getting payed more than someone like Sam Gilbert from the Saints or any number of better defenders.
Can assure you that is correct
sorry but unless i can get it confirmed, this seems OTT ridiculous
Well I will confirm it for you.
Was out of contract after last year, held Richmond to "'ransom ""for 3 year deal,as Gold Coast were very interested.
Dont forget we have to pay over 92% of the salary cap, so these duds are getting well overpaid.
no disrespect perhaps you are correct but i'll need to get this confirmed from a 2nd party, this seems a grossly negligent decison, so much so that I just cant believe even richmond would be this stupid
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I'm pretty sure McGuane is already signed with us.
YEP
3 X $450,000 ::)
Dont know what worse. Jordy at $330,000 or McGaune at $450,000
Neither can play.
i just can't believe that... Getting payed more than someone like Sam Gilbert from the Saints or any number of better defenders.
Can assure you that is correct
sorry but unless i can get it confirmed, this seems OTT ridiculous
Well I will confirm it for you.
Was out of contract after last year, held Richmond to "'ransom ""for 3 year deal,as Gold Coast were very interested.
Dont forget we have to pay over 92% of the salary cap, so these duds are getting well overpaid.
no disrespect perhaps you are correct but i'll need to get this confirmed from a 2nd party, this seems a grossly negligent decison, so much so that I just cant believe even richmond would be this stupid
HOLD ON.
There are worse decisions been made.
How much of Schulz salary are we paying this year??????? :banghead
And McMahon will be the highest paid VFL player in the history of VFL this year. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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I'm pretty sure McGuane is already signed with us.
YEP
3 X $450,000 ::)
Dont know what worse. Jordy at $330,000 or McGaune at $450,000
Neither can play.
i just can't believe that... Getting payed more than someone like Sam Gilbert from the Saints or any number of better defenders.
Can assure you that is correct
sorry but unless i can get it confirmed, this seems OTT ridiculous
Well I will confirm it for you.
Was out of contract after last year, held Richmond to "'ransom ""for 3 year deal,as Gold Coast were very interested.
Dont forget we have to pay over 92% of the salary cap, so these duds are getting well overpaid.
no disrespect perhaps you are correct but i'll need to get this confirmed from a 2nd party, this seems a grossly negligent decison, so much so that I just cant believe even richmond would be this stupid
HOLD ON.
There are wprse decisions been made.
How much of Schulz salary are we paying this year??????? :banghead
And McMahon will be the highest paid VFL player in the history of VFL this year. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
lmaoooo gold
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:whistle :thumbsup :lol
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McMahon :rollin he be playing next week ;D
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McMahon :rollin he be playing next week ;D
Probably has too, cant have Edwards down there :banghead
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edwards wasnt that bad, much worse than him out there
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Edwards was not our worst last night.
The most embarassing performance for me came from Simmonds.
Too slow.
Can't kick.
His possies by foot either were too long or fell short and when he handballed from 2 or 3 metres away he handballed at his teamates head when we were in the clear rather than somewhere where his teamate could get it. Guy knows karate and milks venomous serpents yet is pacified and shows no aggression whatsoever on the field.
I thought Moore was woeful too and McGuane is really starting to let me down.
Richie to me is trade legitimate trade bait.
Jacko can boot the thing 70 metres yet tries to pinpoint a 35 metre pass or like a rabbit in the headlights gets lost by getting run down or wanting a quarter to use the ball.
But for me Simmonds was the worst for me.
The upside Simmonds will retire at seasons end.
The kids I thought for the best part was great.
Nason is a real find. Just keeps on buttering up and is relishing his AFL chance.
Martin got better as the game got older.
Roberts gave a huge tackle on the Carlton back at the PRE of the stadium. Had some nice touches.
It's all about consistency. Yesterday we had a couple of 10-15 minute periods where we played spurt football and kicked a few goals in a row. Eventually we can raise that to a quarter then a half then a full four quarters but we are still so far off that and their will be some more culling at the end of the year.
Sitting in the members I still could not believe there was some clown behind me at the 15 minute mark of the first quarter telling me that he has high standards and that Hardwick broke his promise to him and that the game style he has instilled is worse than Wallet's and that he may have still been coaching the club and if anyone thinks otherwise they have low standards :wallywink
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edwards wasnt that bad, much worse than him out there
He was bad
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I'm pretty sure McGuane is already signed with us.
YEP
3 X $450,000 ::)
Dont know what worse. Jordy at $330,000 or McGaune at $450,000
Neither can play.
i just can't believe that... Getting payed more than someone like Sam Gilbert from the Saints or any number of better defenders.
Can assure you that is correct
sorry but unless i can get it confirmed, this seems OTT ridiculous
Well I will confirm it for you.
Was out of contract after last year, held Richmond to "'ransom ""for 3 year deal,as Gold Coast were very interested.
Dont forget we have to pay over 92% of the salary cap, so these duds are getting well overpaid.
no disrespect perhaps you are correct but i'll need to get this confirmed from a 2nd party, this seems a grossly negligent decison, so much so that I just cant believe even richmond would be this stupid
HOLD ON.
There are worse decisions been made.
How much of Schulz salary are we paying this year??????? :banghead
And McMahon will be the highest paid VFL player in the history of VFL this year. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
:cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers That's what they were doing last night after another loss.
Sorry ,I'm peeed but Richmond supporters in their old age can be excused for that not the players(older players who should be setting an example) :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead.
Good on the kids. :thumbsup
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edwards wasnt that bad, much worse than him out there
He was bad
:clapping :clapping :clapping The mark he dropped in the last qtr that led to O'Helpme's shot on goal after the siren was amazing, capped his night off. If anyone honestly says he wasn't our worst or the worst in the AFL is on crack, IMO. ;D
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Chris the urger was our worst.
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Chris the urger was our worst.
Did he play ? ::)
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Chris Newman was the worst for me.
No example set by the captain & his thinking & disposal are shocking
may well not have him out there if he going to come out of the backline & kick the ball back into the corridor to a 1 on 2 against contest :banghead
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Edwards was not our worst last night.
The most embarassing performance for me came from Simmonds.
Too slow.
Can't kick.
His possies by foot either were too long or fell short and when he handballed from 2 or 3 metres away he handballed at his teamates head when we were in the clear rather than somewhere where his teamate could get it. Guy knows karate and milks venomous serpents yet is pacified and shows no aggression whatsoever on the field.
well, he only had 3 kicks..., his efficiency was a bit low, 44%. He got 19 hit outs which was on par with the two Carlton cretins, 6 less than Kruezer and one more than Warnock. You can't question his aggression he had some prick hanging off of him at all night and he got into a blue which he won against one of the other rucks who tried to rough him up, put him right in his place. The problem was, he had two rucks rotating against him all night and he was getting worn down. Vickery didn't figure it out on the night, he will learn. In the mean time, get Browne fit or get the other big bastard in there. Simmonds needs a hand.
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Edwards was not our worst last night.
The most embarassing performance for me came from Simmonds.
Too slow.
Can't kick.
His possies by foot either were too long or fell short and when he handballed from 2 or 3 metres away he handballed at his teamates head when we were in the clear rather than somewhere where his teamate could get it. Guy knows karate and milks venomous serpents yet is pacified and shows no aggression whatsoever on the field.
well, he only had 3 kicks..., his efficiency was a bit low, 44%. He got 19 hit outs which was on par with the two Carlton cretins, 6 less than Kruezer and one more than Warnock. You can't question his aggression he had some prick hanging off of him at all night and he got into a blue which he won against one of the other rucks who tried to rough him up, put him right in his place. The problem was, he had two rucks rotating against him all night and he was getting worn down. Vickery didn't figure it out on the night, he will learn. In the mean time, get Browne fit or get the other big bastard in there. Simmonds needs a hand.
100% Correct :thumbsup
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And McMahon will be the highest paid VFL player in the history of VFL this year.
Nah, Nick Holland was on $600,000 in the last year of his back-ended contract which he spent at Box Hill.
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The more experienced players have to stand up. Newman needs to get far more of the ball. Needs to impose himself. The midfield needs to get more of the ball. Goal kicking has to improve. That miss by Jackson was disgraceful
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The miss by Jackson sums up our football club
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I don't think that you are right on that poiunt Jackstar.
But if you has said some of our supporters I would have said you have it in one.