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Title: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 11, 2010, 11:10:47 AM
Probably not the place to post this but seeing as it is the most read part of the forum, what the heck, please just leave it here mods :thumbsup.

I have just returned from a site visit to a mine in Zambia (Africa) for a job I don't think I can refuse. With the way they pay over their I should be retired in a couple of years.. :clapping

I will be returning back there in about 10-12 days so until I get set up over there I will be posting less on the forum than I usually do, unfortunately, but should make one-some people happy... ;D

I took a 5-6 hour bus drive from the an Airport in Ndola to the mine site and unless you have seen it over their we really don't know how lucky we have it in here, really, it is an eye opener.. :(.

I will also be educating them on our national game and I am actually going to take an AFL football with me, that should be fun as all they really play is soccer.

Anyway just thought I would share this with you all!!

Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: TheUmpire on June 11, 2010, 12:51:13 PM
Good luck to you over there. What is their internet access like?
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: FNM on June 11, 2010, 01:03:43 PM
Yeah, play footy with the locals while you exploit their precious resources  :rollin

Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: crannyvegas on June 11, 2010, 01:06:48 PM
I agree we are increadibly lucky.

It is interesting/ironic that you point this injustice out, given the poor/illegal way the profits of mines have been distributed to the legit residents of the land.

good luck to you though, i enjoy reading your opinions!!
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: FNM on June 11, 2010, 01:15:31 PM
Environmental rapists  ;D
I wonder what the company will give back to the community in return for their riches
A water well or something really special? lol
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 11, 2010, 01:21:31 PM
Environmental rapists  ;D
I wonder what the company will give back to the community in return for their riches
A water well or something really special? lol


Yeah I expected these sort of comments from the uneducated.. :lol. 95.5% of the workers are Zambian and if it wasn't for the mines they would still be living in the AIDS affected villages that the mines are also supporting to help with medical traetment etc...

We (ex pats) go over there to help develop a sustainable work force that in years to come will not need foreign help as they will be able to do it themselves.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 11, 2010, 01:22:45 PM
Good luck to you over there. What is their internet access like?

Cheers, internet is all good, I just have to get it all hooked up but I am not sure when that will happen.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: FNM on June 11, 2010, 01:37:49 PM
Environmental rapists  ;D
I wonder what the company will give back to the community in return for their riches
A water well or something really special? lol


Yeah I expected these sort of comments from the uneducated.. :lol. 95.5% of the workers are Zambian and if it wasn't for the mines they would still be living in the AIDS affected villages that the mines are also supporting to help with medical traetment etc...

We (ex pats) go over there to help develop a sustainable work force that in years to come will not need foreign help as they will be able to do it themselves.

Do the profits stay there?
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Smokey on June 11, 2010, 01:54:07 PM
Environmental rapists  ;D
I wonder what the company will give back to the community in return for their riches
A water well or something really special? lol


Yeah I expected these sort of comments from the uneducated.. :lol. 95.5% of the workers are Zambian and if it wasn't for the mines they would still be living in the AIDS affected villages that the mines are also supporting to help with medical traetment etc...

We (ex pats) go over there to help develop a sustainable work force that in years to come will not need foreign help as they will be able to do it themselves.

Do the profits stay there?

Some of them do Froars but they are rarely if ever directed to the areas that need it most.  I spent 6 months living in Central Africa in the 90's and wholeheartedly concur with WAT's observation - you really have to live there to get an appreciation of how different life is.  Corruption at the highest level is the norm and almost every country in the entire African continent has been raped by their own rulers for so many years that the chance of recovery in our lifetime for many of them is quite hopeless.  And what is much more galling is that most of the catalyst for the disintegration of the true African lifestyle and culture was the greed of the Western world - colonialism - in a word.  I read a fascinating and very sad historical account of modern Africa recently - "The State Of Africa" - and it highlights how culpable our Western society has been (and still is in many ways) in the political and cultural downfall of most of the countries that make up that beautiful continent.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 11, 2010, 01:58:02 PM
Environmental rapists  ;D
I wonder what the company will give back to the community in return for their riches
A water well or something really special? lol


Yeah I expected these sort of comments from the uneducated.. :lol. 95.5% of the workers are Zambian and if it wasn't for the mines they would still be living in the AIDS affected villages that the mines are also supporting to help with medical traetment etc...

We (ex pats) go over there to help develop a sustainable work force that in years to come will not need foreign help as they will be able to do it themselves.

Do the profits stay there?

Do the profits stay here, with anything we produce in our own country, mining aside???
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 11, 2010, 02:02:05 PM
Environmental rapists  ;D
I wonder what the company will give back to the community in return for their riches
A water well or something really special? lol


Yeah I expected these sort of comments from the uneducated.. :lol. 95.5% of the workers are Zambian and if it wasn't for the mines they would still be living in the AIDS affected villages that the mines are also supporting to help with medical traetment etc...

We (ex pats) go over there to help develop a sustainable work force that in years to come will not need foreign help as they will be able to do it themselves.

Do the profits stay there?

Some of them do Froars but they are rarely if ever directed to the areas that need it most.  I spent 6 months living in Central Africa in the 90's and wholeheartedly concur with WAT's observation - you really have to live there to get an appreciation of how different life is.  Corruption at the highest level is the norm and almost every country in the entire African continent has been raped by their own rulers for so many years that the chance of recovery in our lifetime for many of them is quite hopeless.  And what is much more galling is that most of the catalyst for the disintegration of the true African lifestyle and culture was the greed of the Western world - colonialism - in a word.  I read a fascinating and very sad historical account of modern Africa recently - "The State Of Africa" - and it highlights how culpable our Western society has been (and still is in many ways) in the political and cultural downfall of most of the countries that make up that beautiful continent.

Dead right Smokey, your comments are very true, if it wasn't for Westerners going into the country it would be completely corrupt, it near on is now, as you say. The Police and Government are still on the take and they abuse their own race moer than we do.

We are really helping in ways that many people other than people like you and I will never see or understand!
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: yellowandback on June 11, 2010, 02:22:07 PM
Why are the profits relevant?
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: crannyvegas on June 11, 2010, 03:59:52 PM
yeah we are doing a kick ass job over there. 68% of Zambians live under the poverty line. Life expectancy is a whopping 40 years. Well at least they don't have to set money aside for retirement.

please do not say that us westerners have done ANYTHING but exploited that continent then handed back our scraps in return.

 



Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Carvels Ring on June 11, 2010, 04:25:27 PM
Best of luck WAT.  Bring back a centre half forward!  :gotigers
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Infamy on June 11, 2010, 04:41:06 PM
yeah we are doing a kick ass job over there. 68% of Zambians live under the poverty line. Life expectancy is a whopping 40 years. Well at least they don't have to set money aside for retirement.

please do not say that us westerners have done ANYTHING but exploited that continent then handed back our scraps in return.

Got any stats to compare what their life expectancy and how many were under the poverty line before westerners were there?
Bit meaningless otherwise.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Penelope on June 11, 2010, 04:51:25 PM
yeah we are doing a kick ass job over there. 68% of Zambians live under the poverty line. Life expectancy is a whopping 40 years. Well at least they don't have to set money aside for retirement.

please do not say that us westerners have done ANYTHING but exploited that continent then handed back our scraps in return.

Got any stats to compare what their life expectancy and how many were under the poverty line before westerners were there?
Bit meaningless otherwise.

Read Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston A Price. It gives a good insight into how the Western influence affected the lives of many people around the globe.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Smokey on June 11, 2010, 04:52:56 PM

Dead right Smokey, your comments are very true, if it wasn't for Westerners going into the country it would be completely corrupt, it near on is now, as you say. The Police and Government are still on the take and they abuse their own race moer than we do.

We are really helping in ways that many people other than people like you and I will never see or understand!

Sadly WAT I don't think we are helping.  We created the whole shyte-storm by colonisation, then walked (or were pushed in many places) out and left the Africans totally unprepared to move forward and prosper according to Western doctrine.  All we did was plunder without care or responsibility.  The corruption is there because we gave them a taste of another life without teaching any of the social 'morals' that need to accompany that supposed better lifestyle.  Yes, the current governments made up of their own people are corrupt and often evil but we showed them and we taught them - we can't now blame them.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Smokey on June 11, 2010, 04:57:25 PM

Got any stats to compare what their life expectancy and how many were under the poverty line before westerners were there?
Bit meaningless otherwise.

There was no poverty line before Westerners moved in Infamy, that's at the core of the whole problem.  The poverty line is a Western measurement of Western social means - had no concept or peer in African society until we showed them a 'better' way.   ::)
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Penelope on June 11, 2010, 05:16:02 PM
so true smokey...and it wasn't just in Africa either.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 11, 2010, 07:14:21 PM
yeah we are doing a kick ass job over there. 68% of Zambians live under the poverty line. Life expectancy is a whopping 40 years. Well at least they don't have to set money aside for retirement.

please do not say that us westerners have done ANYTHING but exploited that continent then handed back our scraps in return.

 





Sorry Cranny can't agree with those comments, the damage was done prior to Aussies moving in there. Life expectantcy is actually 35 years old, I am not going over there to exploit anyone either I am going to help, and yes of course get payed for it but they can not do this stuff on their own.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 11, 2010, 07:40:26 PM
yeah we are doing a kick ass job over there. 68% of Zambians live under the poverty line. Life expectancy is a whopping 40 years. Well at least they don't have to set money aside for retirement.

please do not say that us westerners have done ANYTHING but exploited that continent then handed back our scraps in return.

 





Sorry Cranny can't agree with those comments, the damage was done prior to Aussies moving in there. Life expectantcy is actually 35 years old, I am not going over there to exploit anyone either I am going to help, and yes of course get payed for it but they can not do this stuff on their own.
The problem may have occurred with the end of colonisation in Africa at the end of ww2! Westerners left a whole continent to fight over a mineral rich resource causing civil wars, corruption and massive breaches in human rights! Sorry to politicise it! Good luck WAT! Love your work!
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 11, 2010, 07:48:00 PM
yeah we are doing a kick ass job over there. 68% of Zambians live under the poverty line. Life expectancy is a whopping 40 years. Well at least they don't have to set money aside for retirement.

please do not say that us westerners have done ANYTHING but exploited that continent then handed back our scraps in return.

 





Sorry Cranny can't agree with those comments, the damage was done prior to Aussies moving in there. Life expectantcy is actually 35 years old, I am not going over there to exploit anyone either I am going to help, and yes of course get payed for it but they can not do this stuff on their own.
The problem may have occurred with the end of colonisation in Africa at the end of ww2! Westerners left a whole continent to fight over a mineral rich resource causing civil wars, corruption and massive breaches in human rights! Sorry to politicise it! Good luck WAT! Love your work!

Yeah agree GR 12, love your work too.. :thumbsup, hopefully I can post from work and then get set up in my room over there, they are 12 hours behind, timewise anyway!!
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 11, 2010, 07:50:04 PM
At least we will have more friday night games!
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 11, 2010, 08:09:07 PM
At least we will have more friday night games!

Yeah true.. ;D
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: tiger101 on June 11, 2010, 11:05:47 PM
good luck with your new job. It would be a great experience working in another country no doubt especially one like africa that has such a different culture.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 11, 2010, 11:13:24 PM
good luck with your new job. It would be a great experience working in another country no doubt especially one like africa that has such a different culture.

Thanks T101, yes very much looking forward to it, always looking for good people over there too. Different culture is one of the main reasons I am going, everyone should experience a different culture IMO, I have been to England and Scotland but Zambian people are amazing!
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: F0551L on June 12, 2010, 09:20:30 AM
Probably not the place to post this but seeing as it is the most read part of the forum, what the heck, please just leave it here mods :thumbsup.

I have just returned from a site visit to a mine in Zambia (Africa) for a job I don't think I can refuse. With the way they pay over their I should be retired in a couple of years.. :clapping

I will be returning back there in about 10-12 days so until I get set up over there I will be posting less on the forum than I usually do, unfortunately, but should make one-some people happy... ;D

I took a 5-6 hour bus drive from the an Airport in Ndola to the mine site and unless you have seen it over their we really don't know how lucky we have it in here, really, it is an eye opener.. :(.

I will also be educating them on our national game and I am actually going to take an AFL football with me, that should be fun as all they really play is soccer.

Anyway just thought I would share this with you all!!



Sounds like an offer too good to pass by WAT
hope it all works out well

being in the same game I appreciate what your saying
its not all beer and skittles out there but if we can have any sort of positive impact on others lives then its a good thing
and you may need to take more than 1 footy  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 12, 2010, 11:16:48 AM
Probably not the place to post this but seeing as it is the most read part of the forum, what the heck, please just leave it here mods :thumbsup.

I have just returned from a site visit to a mine in Zambia (Africa) for a job I don't think I can refuse. With the way they pay over their I should be retired in a couple of years.. :clapping

I will be returning back there in about 10-12 days so until I get set up over there I will be posting less on the forum than I usually do, unfortunately, but should make one-some people happy... ;D

I took a 5-6 hour bus drive from the an Airport in Ndola to the mine site and unless you have seen it over their we really don't know how lucky we have it in here, really, it is an eye opener.. :(.

I will also be educating them on our national game and I am actually going to take an AFL football with me, that should be fun as all they really play is soccer.

Anyway just thought I would share this with you all!!



Sounds like an offer too good to pass by WAT
hope it all works out well

being in the same game I appreciate what your saying
its not all beer and skittles out there but if we can have any sort of positive impact on others lives then its a good thing
and you may need to take more than 1 footy  :thumbsup

Yep dead right 632, too good to refuse, lol at taking another footy, actually after you saying that I may need to take more than 2 haha.

You are also correct; if we can have any positive impact over there which we will, it will certainly help them out and to move forward.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: mat073 on June 12, 2010, 04:09:31 PM
Good luck to you WAT

Hope you make some good coin in Zambia. :thumbsup

You never know .....when you return in a couple of years,Richmond could be an emerging super power of the AFL.
You could then watch them on your new 100 inch 3D television. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 12, 2010, 04:23:37 PM
Good luck to you WAT

Hope you make some good coin in Zambia. :thumbsup

You never know .....when you return in a couple of years,Richmond could be an emerging super power of the AFL.
You could then watch them on your new 100 inch 3D television. :thumbsup

Cheers Mat, thats what I am hoping, wouldn't it be nice to watch Richmond in the GF the year I retire.. ;D, I will be working a 9 week on 3 week off roster FIFO so that will be good!!
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Smokey on June 12, 2010, 05:04:30 PM
Good luck to you WAT

Hope you make some good coin in Zambia. :thumbsup

Just imagine .....when you return in a couple of years, Richmond will be an emerging super power of the AFL pushing for their 11th premiership.
You can then watch them on your new 100 inch 3D television. :thumbsup

Edited for accuracy
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 12, 2010, 06:03:29 PM
Good luck to you WAT

Hope you make some good coin in Zambia. :thumbsup

Just imagine .....when you return in a couple of years, Richmond will be an emerging super power of the AFL pushing for their 11th premiership.
You can then watch them on your new 100 inch 3D television. :thumbsup

Edited for accuracy

What part??
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Smokey on June 12, 2010, 06:09:22 PM
Good luck to you WAT

Hope you make some good coin in Zambia. :thumbsup

Just imagine .....when you return in a couple of years, Richmond will be an emerging super power of the AFL pushing for their 11th premiership.
You can then watch them on your new 100 inch 3D television. :thumbsup

Edited for accuracy

What part??

 :)  Read Mat's original WAT - I've changed it from possible to factual!   ;)
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Infamy on June 13, 2010, 06:09:34 AM
If the Tiges start winning while you are away, can you stay over there please?
I don't want you to come back and jinx us ;)
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 13, 2010, 11:50:47 AM
Good luck to you WAT

Hope you make some good coin in Zambia. :thumbsup

Just imagine .....when you return in a couple of years, Richmond will be an emerging super power of the AFL pushing for their 11th premiership.
You can then watch them on your new 100 inch 3D television. :thumbsup

Edited for accuracy

What part??

 :)  Read Mat's original WAT - I've changed it from possible to factual!   ;)

Ah ok, very good smokey... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 13, 2010, 11:52:00 AM
If the Tiges start winning while you are away, can you stay over there please?
I don't want you to come back and jinx us ;)

Lol, not sure the missus would like that, me staying over there... although.. :shh
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Tigermonk on June 18, 2010, 06:31:38 PM


Do the profits stay here, with anything we produce in our own country, mining aside???

Got to applaud that comeback. Australia dont own much at all  ;D All the power stations & mines are owned by overseas companies
Australia has been raped severely & its our fault for letting it happen

As for Africa l can truely say the whole country is corrupted & have witnessed it.
You dont say anything out of context over there about corruption or you go missing. Friends of mine were locked up for 37 days on false charges & had to pay big money to be freed.
The whites over thier live in fear its that bad & can tell you l will never set foot on there soil again.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Tigermonk on June 18, 2010, 06:55:06 PM
and you're telling people here,why ?

cause l can  ;D
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: 1965 on June 18, 2010, 07:29:59 PM
and you're telling people here,why ?

cause l can  ;D

just like those dogs, eh?

 :lol
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on June 18, 2010, 09:49:14 PM


Do the profits stay here, with anything we produce in our own country, mining aside???

Got to applaud that comeback. Australia dont own much at all  ;D All the power stations & mines are owned by overseas companies
Australia has been raped severely & its our fault for letting it happen

As for Africa l can truely say the whole country is corrupted & have witnessed it.
You dont say anything out of context over there about corruption or you go missing. Friends of mine were locked up for 37 days on false charges & had to pay big money to be freed.
The whites over thier live in fear its that bad & can tell you l will never set foot on there soil again.

Agree there are some parts of Africa like that TM, but not where I am going, although I did see a bit of what you are talking about and no doubt I will see a lot more.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 09, 2010, 03:49:19 PM
Hi all

Back in the Country for 3 weks, have the new computer to take back...... so I am back. Hope you have all been well, Tiges had a good year really IMO, looking forward to next year.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: 1965 on September 09, 2010, 05:21:56 PM
Hi all

Back in the Country for 3 weks, have the new computer to take back...... so I am back. Hope you have all been well, Tiges had a good year really IMO, looking forward to next year.

Welcome back you old bastard.

How were the mines?

'65
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 09, 2010, 07:28:35 PM
Hi all

Back in the Country for 3 weks, have the new computer to take back...... so I am back. Hope you have all been well, Tiges had a good year really IMO, looking forward to next year.

Welcome back you old bastard.

How were the mines?

'65


Hi mate, thanks, good to be back. The mines were very very interesting, certainly nothing I have encounted in my years of Mining!!
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: yellowandback on September 09, 2010, 07:54:50 PM
Hi all

Back in the Country for 3 weks, have the new computer to take back...... so I am back. Hope you have all been well, Tiges had a good year really IMO, looking forward to next year.

Welcome back you old bastard.

How were the mines?

'65


Hi mate, thanks, good to be back. The mines were very very interesting, certainly nothing I have encounted in my years of Mining!!

Making sure you stock up on the old favourites - meat pies, VB, decent steak????
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 09, 2010, 08:06:05 PM
Hi all

Back in the Country for 3 weks, have the new computer to take back...... so I am back. Hope you have all been well, Tiges had a good year really IMO, looking forward to next year.

Welcome back you old bastard.

How were the mines?

'65


Hi mate, thanks, good to be back. The mines were very very interesting, certainly nothing I have encounted in my years of Mining!!

Making sure you stock up on the old favourites - meat pies, VB, decent steak????

Decent steak, oh yeah, really miss that. Beer is pretty good actually, lots of German beer and the local Mozi Gold (great name) is a bit like Crown.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Penelope on September 09, 2010, 08:12:04 PM
Hi all

Back in the Country for 3 weks, have the new computer to take back...... so I am back. Hope you have all been well, Tiges had a good year really IMO, looking forward to next year.

Welcome back you old bastard.

How were the mines?

'65


Hi mate, thanks, good to be back. The mines were very very interesting, certainly nothing I have encounted in my years of Mining!!
What was different WAT?
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 09, 2010, 08:14:43 PM
Hi all

Back in the Country for 3 weks, have the new computer to take back...... so I am back. Hope you have all been well, Tiges had a good year really IMO, looking forward to next year.

Welcome back you old bastard.

How were the mines?

'65


Hi mate, thanks, good to be back. The mines were very very interesting, certainly nothing I have encounted in my years of Mining!!
What was different WAT?

Mate where do I start... um the entire culture, food, weather, its just a real eye opener.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: jackstar is back again on September 09, 2010, 09:19:55 PM
Hi all

Back in the Country for 3 weks, have the new computer to take back...... so I am back. Hope you have all been well, Tiges had a good year really IMO, looking forward to next year.

Welcome back you old bastard.

How were the mines?

'65


Hi mate, thanks, good to be back. The mines were very very interesting, certainly nothing I have encounted in my years of Mining!!

who supplies the lighting for the mines? I can be of help
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 09, 2010, 09:31:03 PM
Hi all

Back in the Country for 3 weks, have the new computer to take back...... so I am back. Hope you have all been well, Tiges had a good year really IMO, looking forward to next year.

Welcome back you old bastard.

How were the mines?

'65


Hi mate, thanks, good to be back. The mines were very very interesting, certainly nothing I have encounted in my years of Mining!!

who supplies the lighting for the mines? I can be of help

Now Jack.... mate I would really have to actually meet you first.. but yes there are many positions there and yes l coulod get you in!! Do you think we would get on... :lol :thumbsup
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: jackstar is back again on September 09, 2010, 09:47:32 PM
we supply lighting for mines throughout Australia, from japan, thats enough info, you should know who I work for, as we have done the majority in WA and thoughout Australia
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 09, 2010, 09:58:46 PM
we supply lighting for mines throughout Australia, from japan, thats enough info, you should know who I work for, as we have done the majority in WA and thoughout Australia

Yes I know who you are with mate, well send me your resume!!
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: jackstar is back again on September 09, 2010, 10:08:44 PM
am happy where I am, let me know if you need some lighting fixtures
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 09, 2010, 10:27:20 PM
am happy where I am, let me know if you need some lighting fixtures

No worries, will do, actually we do, I wil find out the total when I get back.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: jackstar is back again on September 09, 2010, 10:28:59 PM
am happy where I am, let me know if you need some lighting fixtures

No worries, will do, actually we do, I wil find out the total when I get back.

You probably need high pressure sodiums
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: taztiger4 on September 09, 2010, 10:49:49 PM
am happy where I am, let me know if you need some lighting fixtures

No worries, will do, actually we do, I wil find out the total when I get back.

You probably need high pressure sodiums
Unless they need something has has good colour rendition, in that case Metal Halides obviously are the go
By the way the last 7 or 8 plants / mine sites we have done have used MHs,even sites close by townships
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 09, 2010, 10:53:03 PM
So you two work together..... When I get over there I will PM you the list!!
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: jackstar is back again on September 09, 2010, 11:08:53 PM
am happy where I am, let me know if you need some lighting fixtures

No worries, will do, actually we do, I wil find out the total when I get back.

You probably need high pressure sodiums
Unless they need something has has good colour rendition, in that case Metal Halides obviously are the go
By the way the last 7 or 8 plants / mine sites we have done have used MHs,even sites close by townships

We have the best metal halide, the "' cera Arc""
issue will be the life of the lamp if they are running 24 /7
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: jackstar is back again on September 09, 2010, 11:13:21 PM
and you will get 42,000 lumens ;)
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 09, 2010, 11:17:24 PM
No worries JS... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: mightytiges on September 10, 2010, 03:35:51 AM
Hi all

Back in the Country for 3 weks, have the new computer to take back...... so I am back. Hope you have all been well, Tiges had a good year really IMO, looking forward to next year.

Welcome back you old bastard.

How were the mines?

'65


Hi mate, thanks, good to be back. The mines were very very interesting, certainly nothing I have encounted in my years of Mining!!
What was different WAT?

Mate where do I start... um the entire culture, food, weather, its just a real eye opener.
Welcome back WAT. Was there any way to watch AFL games over there?
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Owl on September 10, 2010, 07:26:34 AM
Well, I need a mine underneath my house, just a short one, so I can do my special art projects
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: 2JD on September 10, 2010, 08:09:30 AM
good luck with your new job. It would be a great experience working in another country no doubt especially one like africa that has such a different culture.

Thanks T101, yes very much looking forward to it, always looking for good people over there too. Different culture is one of the main reasons I am going, everyone should experience a different culture IMO, I have been to England and Scotland but Zambian people are amazing!

Im a good person! can I come over??? lolol
Seriously, good luck to you, stay safe :gotigers
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2010, 09:47:12 AM
Hi all

Back in the Country for 3 weks, have the new computer to take back...... so I am back. Hope you have all been well, Tiges had a good year really IMO, looking forward to next year.

Welcome back you old bastard.

How were the mines?

'65


Hi mate, thanks, good to be back. The mines were very very interesting, certainly nothing I have encounted in my years of Mining!!
What was different WAT?

Mate where do I start... um the entire culture, food, weather, its just a real eye opener.
Welcome back WAT. Was there any way to watch AFL games over there?

Thanks MT, I get DSTV over there which is like Foxtel and they replay the Friday night games every Saturday morning, so I tape them.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2010, 09:48:03 AM
Well, I need a mine underneath my house, just a short one, so I can do my special art projects

Hey Owl...... how the hell have you been mate, good to see you are still alive. :lol
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2010, 09:51:27 AM
good luck with your new job. It would be a great experience working in another country no doubt especially one like africa that has such a different culture.

Thanks T101, yes very much looking forward to it, always looking for good people over there too. Different culture is one of the main reasons I am going, everyone should experience a different culture IMO, I have been to England and Scotland but Zambian people are amazing!

Im a good person! can I come over??? lolol
Seriously, good luck to you, stay safe :gotigers


Thanks mate, yeah you can come.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: tiga on September 10, 2010, 12:52:09 PM
Good Luck over there WAT... Lot of..Rock for Cash eh!  ;D


Regarding Africa and its descent into corruption and I agree with Smokey that Western influence and colonisation totally screwed Africa.
The tribal system, although sometimes brutal worked for thousands of years. It maintained a sense of social order through the elder system and they lived off the land knowing nothing of the riches that lay underground, but once colonisation commenced, radicals were introduced such as modern weapons, the unearthing of immensely valuable minerals and of course with that came greed and the almighty dollar.
 
The west threw in political systems and laws that the indigenous people had no idea how to operate or control and once the colonisers got what they needed they were gone. What was left was anarchy and opportunistic cashed up twisted individuals who no longer had respect for elders or the tribal system now that they had a taste for the power and trappings of the western lifestyle and the only way they knew how to maintain this new lifestyle was through violence and the oppression of their own people.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Smokey on September 10, 2010, 01:34:49 PM
Good Luck over there WAT... Lot of..Rock for Cash eh!  ;D


Regarding Africa and its descent into corruption and I agree with Smokey that Western influence and colonisation totally screwed Africa.
The tribal system, although sometimes brutal worked for thousands of years. It maintained a sense of social order through the elder system and they lived off the land knowing nothing of the riches that lay underground, but once colonisation commenced, radicals were introduced such as modern weapons, the unearthing of immensely valuable minerals and of course with that came greed and the almighty dollar.
 
The west threw in political systems and laws that the indigenous people had no idea how to operate or control and once the colonisers got what they needed they were gone. What was left was anarchy and opportunistic cashed up twisted individuals who no longer had respect for elders or the tribal system now that they had a taste for the power and trappings of the western lifestyle and the only way they knew how to maintain this new lifestyle was through violence and the oppression of their own people.


Got that about right Tiga.  :thumbsup

And welcome back WAT, good to see you back on here.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2010, 06:08:25 PM
Yeah pretty well on the money Tiga, aand thanks Smokey, good to back, I really missed the site and the people on it actually.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 10, 2010, 07:19:48 PM
Welcome back WAT. All cashed up you can upgrade on the chopper on your avatar. :thumbsup

Your back just in time for the pre trade shenanigans and debates on whether experienced players or kids are the go. :rollin :lol :rollin
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 10, 2010, 07:56:05 PM
Welcome back WAT. All cashed up you can upgrade on the chopper on your avatar. :thumbsup

Your back just in time for the pre trade shenanigans and debates on whether experienced players or kids are the go. :rollin :lol :rollin

Hey there TB, how are you mate, thanks for the welcome back, great to be back. Mate I dont think there is much more I can do to the bike... well without losing the missus.. :lol

Ah the good old debate about kids V's experience...love it. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Owl on September 10, 2010, 09:10:17 PM

Well, I need a mine underneath my house, just a short one, so I can do my special art projects

Hey Owl...... how the hell have you been mate, good to see you are still alive. :lol
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just barely mate.  Good to see you back in the melee, few more of us have joined the forum to give u all the shell grits since you last were on lol.  We were too boring at our other haunt apparently.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 11, 2010, 12:31:24 AM

Well, I need a mine underneath my house, just a short one, so I can do my special art projects

Hey Owl...... how the hell have you been mate, good to see you are still alive. :lol
just barely mate.  Good to see you back in the melee, few more of us have joined the forum to give u all the shell grits since you last were on lol.  We were too boring at our other haunt apparently.
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lol, great, its blokes like you that make this forum. :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: 1965 on September 11, 2010, 03:43:37 PM


Just checked your stats WAT.

You have been "missing" for three months.

What was the holiday for?

Drink driving?  Possession of an illegal firearm? Fraud? Assault?

 :lol

 :outtahere
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 11, 2010, 04:37:20 PM


Just checked your stats WAT.

You have been "missing" for three months.

What was the holiday for?

Drink driving?  Possession of an illegal firearm? Fraud? Assault?

 :lol

 :outtahere

10 weeks actually 1965, and it was for all of the above... :lol
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Penelope on September 11, 2010, 04:47:52 PM
Only ten weeks for all that? I think this needs to merged with the justice system is a joke thread  :whistle    :outtahere
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 11, 2010, 04:54:00 PM
Only ten weeks for all that? I think this needs to merged with the justice system is a joke thread  :whistle    :outtahere

Yeah it does Al, haha. funny thing is, it would probably happen.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 28, 2010, 12:10:23 PM
Just though I would let those of you that care........... :lol that I am heading back to work tonight. I fly to Johannesburg, then to Ndola then to Solwezi then an hours drive to the camp.. So there you go. I will have my new laptop so I will be on the forum from there. Will try to get a few photos to post.

Take care and talk soon.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Smokey on September 28, 2010, 12:26:19 PM
Good luck WAT.  How long for this time?
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Les Brians Hard Stats on September 28, 2010, 12:39:17 PM
Think of me WA Tiger  :-*

This should be in the On The Prowl forum lol
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on September 28, 2010, 12:50:13 PM
Yep I will think of you all..... :thumbsup I know it should be in the On The Prowl section but the great mods let me keep it here.

Going for 12 weeks this time Smokey, want to have Christmas off so have to do 12 weeks. will shorten my stint after Christmas to 6 weeks instead of 9 though so it works out ok.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Owl on September 30, 2010, 09:58:43 AM
Have fun Wat
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on October 01, 2010, 02:26:17 AM
Hey guys

Just got back last night and worked today, no one awake over there so I will just cruise the forum.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Danog on October 01, 2010, 02:37:04 AM
Hey guys

Just got back last night and worked today, no one awake over there so I will just cruise the forum.
Oh ye of little faith.

Nah I'm off now  ;D
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on October 01, 2010, 02:57:57 AM
Hey guys

Just got back last night and worked today, no one awake over there so I will just cruise the forum.
Oh ye of little faith.

Nah I'm off now  ;D

Wow Danog, big night mate or what.. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Danog on October 01, 2010, 11:24:18 PM
Hey guys

Just got back last night and worked today, no one awake over there so I will just cruise the forum.
Oh ye of little faith.

Nah I'm off now  ;D

Wow Danog, big night mate or what.. :thumbsup
Always  :santa
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on October 02, 2010, 02:04:32 AM
Hey guys

Just got back last night and worked today, no one awake over there so I will just cruise the forum.
Oh ye of little faith.

Nah I'm off now  ;D

Wow Danog, big night mate or what.. :thumbsup
Always  :santa

In for another big one or what Danog??
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Danog on October 02, 2010, 03:27:14 AM
Hey guys

Just got back last night and worked today, no one awake over there so I will just cruise the forum.
Oh ye of little faith.

Nah I'm off now  ;D

Wow Danog, big night mate or what.. :thumbsup
Always  :santa

In for another big one or what Danog??
You tell me  :rollin
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on October 02, 2010, 03:42:27 AM
Hey guys

Just got back last night and worked today, no one awake over there so I will just cruise the forum.
Oh ye of little faith.

Nah I'm off now  ;D

Wow Danog, big night mate or what.. :thumbsup
Always  :santa

In for another big one or what Danog??
You tell me  :rollin

Mate you are unreal.. :lol
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Danog on October 03, 2010, 04:27:43 AM
Hey guys

Just got back last night and worked today, no one awake over there so I will just cruise the forum.
Oh ye of little faith.

Nah I'm off now  ;D

Wow Danog, big night mate or what.. :thumbsup
Always  :santa

In for another big one or what Danog??
You tell me  :rollin

Mate you are unreal.. :lol
You don't even know...  :thumbsup  :sleep :sleep
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on December 22, 2010, 02:01:11 PM
Ok, back home again for 3 weeks.....yay.....here are some pics of of the country just around the mine, yes they are real mushies...no not magic, this guy got these two on the mine site. They grow wild in the wet season and they are eatable and good eating too. The cloud is amazingly low in Zambia, 4000ft above sea level, sometimes it feels like you could just reach out and touch them.. Merry Christmas to you all, I hope you have a great time with your families.


(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/Bono111/Africa/IMG_2011.jpg)

(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/Bono111/Africa/IMG_2009.jpg)

(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/Bono111/Africa/IMG_2007.jpg)

(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/Bono111/Africa/IMG_2006.jpg)

(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/Bono111/Africa/IMG_2004.jpg)

(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/Bono111/Africa/IMG_2003.jpg)



Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Coach on December 22, 2010, 02:02:48 PM
Merry Christmas, WAT.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: mightytiges on December 22, 2010, 02:37:12 PM
Top pics WAT. Have a good Christmas and New Years back in Oz.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Penelope on December 22, 2010, 03:34:01 PM
some of those pics could easily be northern Oz.

 :santa :cheers
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on December 22, 2010, 03:56:17 PM
some of those pics could easily be northern Oz.

 :santa :cheers

Yeah I know Al, sometimes we forget where we are over there, very similar to some parts of Aus, even down South in WA too.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on December 22, 2010, 03:56:46 PM
Top pics WAT. Have a good Christmas and New Years back in Oz.

Thanks MT, glad you liked them. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 22, 2010, 08:33:57 PM
Merry Xmas WAT enjoy this time with your family because I reckon that's what Xmas is all about - Family  :thumbsup

Great pics BTW
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Smokey on December 22, 2010, 10:01:10 PM
Countryside looks the same as Rwanda WAT - but then again, most of Central Africa is like that hey!

Merry Christmas to you and yours, and to all on OER - hope the festive season is safe and enjoyed with family and friends.

 :cheers   :santa
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on December 24, 2010, 12:09:58 PM
Thanks Smokey and WP, please have a safe one too.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Fishfinger on December 24, 2010, 12:59:37 PM
Nice pics of the miner's hooch crop (pics 4&5).
All the best to your mate with the big boobs in pic 1.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on December 24, 2010, 04:29:46 PM
Nice pics of the miner's hooch crop (pics 4&5).
All the best to your mate with the big boobs in pic 1.

hahaha.. :lol
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Fruity Morgan on December 24, 2010, 05:14:05 PM
Good to have you back mate.  Might see u on the tram soon! :santa
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on April 18, 2012, 05:50:44 PM
Ok, drum roll.... :lol

So after 2 years in Zambia (gone quick) I have been offered a role in Papua New Guinea on a FIFO roster of 8 days on 6 days off.....based in Brisbane.

So I will be moving my wife from here in Zambia on site and my kids from Boarding School in South Africa to Brissy.....and hell they are excited.

So we will move there on May 1st.......can't bloody wait, now I will get to ride my bike more up and down the Sunshine Coast  ;D....but better than ever we will get to see the Tiges play more.....wahoooo......anyway I just thought I would share this good news with you.

By the way in my two years here I have mentored, coached and developed a Zambian team that is sustainable to carry on the processes and policies I have introduced. I have developed an individual to move into my role as Superintendent, another employee to move into a Coordinator role and another to move into the role of advisor.

I have implemented a succession plan that will see my team here grow from a team of expats to a team of 32 Zambian only personnel by 2015.....

I am extremely proud of what I have done....what many have not done in this country, develop the Nationals, without taking them for granted and lining my pockets.

I tell you all this not for glory, I tell you this for the knockers that criticised me earlier in this thread for coming here to take advantage of the situation here.....Well I can assure you all I have done what I came here to do and I will walk out of Africa, Zambia, with my head held high......

Hopefully I will see some of you soon!!!!
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Coach on April 18, 2012, 05:53:04 PM
Onya mate
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on April 18, 2012, 05:57:37 PM
Onya mate

Cheers bud.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: gerkin greg on April 18, 2012, 07:36:28 PM
Onya mate

Cheers bud.

2 games in Qld coming up

Whoa  :shh Look out


Bit disappointed you haven't developed any Zambian talent for FJ to look at while you were there, seriously WAT sounds like you were slacking off

I expect you to unearth the next NicNat in PNG  ;D

NO EXCUSES
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on April 18, 2012, 07:50:53 PM
Onya mate

Cheers bud.

2 games in Qld coming up

Whoa  :shh Look out


Bit disappointed you haven't developed any Zambian talent for FJ to look at while you were there, seriously WAT sounds like you were slacking off

I expect you to unearth the next NicNat in PNG  ;D

NO EXCUSES

Haha...good on ya Gerks, cheers mate, yep looking forward to those games!! Hopefully I will be on break, but then again I will make sure of it.

1 Nic Nat on order to go... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: dwaino on April 18, 2012, 07:55:40 PM
Grats mate. Getting closer to home, one shore at a time!
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on April 18, 2012, 08:06:04 PM
Grats mate. Getting closer to home, one shore at a time!

Yeah, getting there slowly, cheers eh!!
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 18, 2012, 09:21:05 PM
Well done WAT  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on April 18, 2012, 09:26:09 PM
Well done WAT  :thumbsup

Thanks DD, the family are bloody happy, kids can't wait to get out of the Boarding School an all the wife wants to do is hit the shops... :lol
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Willy on April 18, 2012, 09:28:00 PM
Good stuff WAT. I'm impressed.

You should bring Gerks and Davey across on some of your PNG forays. They have an eye for talent, and Davey is really into 'national geographic-type' women.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 18, 2012, 09:34:46 PM
Good stuff WAT. I'm impressed.

You should bring Gerks and Davey across on some of your PNG forays. They have an eye for talent, and Davey is really into 'national geographic-type' women.

This is true. The guy goes absolutely nuts for those birds....
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: yellowandback on April 18, 2012, 09:47:51 PM
Nice work WAT although your ID needs to change to Global or Sunshine Tiger  ;D
With your impressive efforts in Zambia perhaps you can mould Shane Edwards into being a sel sufficient AFL footballer   :gobdrop :rollin
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on April 18, 2012, 09:51:35 PM
Nice work WAT although your ID needs to change to Global or Sunshine Tiger  ;D
With your impressive efforts in Zambia perhaps you can mould Shane Edwards into being a sel sufficient AFL footballer   :gobdrop :rollin

Haha...no chance there Y&B, lost cause... :thumbsup

Yeah might have to look at that ID....
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on April 18, 2012, 09:53:54 PM
Good stuff WAT. I'm impressed.

You should bring Gerks and Davey across on some of your PNG forays. They have an eye for talent, and Davey is really into 'national geographic-type' women.

Cheers Willy, yeah look I am very happy with what has been achieved here, so are the workforce which is the most important thing.

Gerks and Davey.... :rollin

Thanks mate.
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Coach on April 18, 2012, 10:12:42 PM
I prefer 'Coach'

Thanks,
The Coach
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: gerkin greg on April 18, 2012, 10:18:51 PM
I prefer 'Coach'

Thanks,
The Coach

 ::)

thanks,
gg
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Coach on April 18, 2012, 10:31:58 PM
Mate the Ped was doing it before both of us so get off your high horse.

Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on May 29, 2012, 08:48:26 PM
So folks, we arrived in Brissy tonight for good....YEHAAAAAAAAA... ;D

Kids should be here in a week or so.....LOVE THIS COUNTRY
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Loui Tufga on May 29, 2012, 09:13:41 PM
So folks, we arrived in Brissy tonight for good....YEHAAAAAAAAA... ;D

Kids should be here in a week or so.....LOVE THIS COUNTRY

Nice work WAT, good luck with everything :thumbsup
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on May 29, 2012, 09:20:19 PM
So folks, we arrived in Brissy tonight for good....YEHAAAAAAAAA... ;D

Kids should be here in a week or so.....LOVE THIS COUNTRY

Nice work WAT, good luck with everything :thumbsup

Thanks mate, really looking forward to it..
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 29, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
So folks, we arrived in Brissy tonight for good....YEHAAAAAAAAA... ;D

Kids should be here in a week or so.....LOVE THIS COUNTRY

Noice :thumbsup

Keep it real and  :gotigers
Title: Re: Out Of Africa
Post by: WA Tiger on May 29, 2012, 09:47:48 PM
So folks, we arrived in Brissy tonight for good....YEHAAAAAAAAA... ;D

Kids should be here in a week or so.....LOVE THIS COUNTRY

Noice :thumbsup

Keep it real and  :gotigers

Cheers D!