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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: torch on July 09, 2011, 09:51:27 PM
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Sack Hardwick, not the answer, no game plan.
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It's the cattle. We have one of the worst lists in the AFL. It wouldn't matter who the coach was. The tactics worked for 2.5 qtrs until most of the players gave up.
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:ROTFL
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Let's all (torch) just settle down a little. I know it is embarrassing losing to Essendon.
We all know the players who need to go, we do have some quality kids there, pump games into the kids and we'll be better for it next year.
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Hardwick was coaching well until the players raised the white flag. Hardwicks problem isnt that we will sack him, Hardwicks problem is that if he hasnt got the balls to trade out the likes of Jackson, Edwards and afew others THIS YEAR, he will probably lose his job next year and never coach again. Its his decision and his career, If I was him, I would trade out the 2 players mentioned, I would also look at what real improvement do the likes of Grigg and Houli really deliver for us as well. IMHO - Hartley did a poor job last year with Houli and Grigg. They cant help us be real winners IMHO.
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this is out of the coaches hands.
if at seasons end he doesnt get rid of the spuds that need to go and we are doing the same this time next season, then he'll be in real trouble, atm he's done and doing all he can with what hes got
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Sack Hardwick, not the answer, no game plan.
:lol
You are an effing douche bag.
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Hardwick was coaching well until the players raised the white flag. Hardwicks problem isnt that we will sack him, Hardwicks problem is that if he hasnt got the balls to trade out the likes of Jackson, Edwards and afew others THIS YEAR, he will probably lose his job next year and never coach again. Its his decision and his career, If I was him, I would trade out the 2 players mentioned, I would also look at what real improvement do the likes of Grigg and Houli really deliver for us as well. IMHO - Hartley did a poor job last year with Houli and Grigg. They cant help us be real winners IMHO.
you're like a dog at a bone with those 2 10flags. They arent our problem imo. Yes they are good ordinary b grade players which is an upgrade on what we had! and we gave away f all for them so they were a good decision. You cant have 22 champions in a side, you need good solid soldiers and we are even lacking in that. They are not the issue
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Craig Cameron has been at the club for 4 years. List manager and then boss of list manager.
Join the dots.
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Hardwick was coaching well until the players raised the white flag. Hardwicks problem isnt that we will sack him, Hardwicks problem is that if he hasnt got the balls to trade out the likes of Jackson, Edwards and afew others THIS YEAR, he will probably lose his job next year and never coach again. Its his decision and his career, If I was him, I would trade out the 2 players mentioned, I would also look at what real improvement do the likes of Grigg and Houli really deliver for us as well. IMHO - Hartley did a poor job last year with Houli and Grigg. They cant help us be real winners IMHO.
you're like a dog at a bone with those 2 10flags. They arent our problem imo. Yes they are good ordinary b grade players which is an upgrade on what we had! and we gave away f all for them so they were a good decision. You cant have 22 champions in a side, you need good solid soldiers and we are even lacking in that. They are not the issue
are you talking about Jackson/Edwards or Grigg/Houli?
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lol Grigg and Houli,
Jackson and Edwards can go get stuffed!
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Hardwick was coaching well until the players raised the white flag. Hardwicks problem isnt that we will sack him, Hardwicks problem is that if he hasnt got the balls to trade out the likes of Jackson, Edwards and afew others THIS YEAR, he will probably lose his job next year and never coach again. Its his decision and his career, If I was him, I would trade out the 2 players mentioned, I would also look at what real improvement do the likes of Grigg and Houli really deliver for us as well. IMHO - Hartley did a poor job last year with Houli and Grigg. They cant help us be real winners IMHO.
you're like a dog at a bone with those 2 10flags. They arent our problem imo. Yes they are good ordinary b grade players which is an upgrade on what we had! and we gave away f all for them so they were a good decision. You cant have 22 champions in a side, you need good solid soldiers and we are even lacking in that. They are not the issue
so true
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lol Grigg and Houli,
Jackson and Edwards can go get stuffed!
Agree with you, look I dont have any real problem with Houli or Grigg per se, I just feel that for us that we need to get a higher standard player thats all. As for Jackson and Edwards what can I say. Times Up. Hopefully Hardwick calls an end to their Richmond careers.
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lol Grigg and Houli,
Jackson and Edwards can go get stuffed!
Agree with you, look I dont have any real problem with Houli or Grigg per se, I just feel that for us that we need to get a higher standard player thats all. As for Jackson and Edwards what can I say. Times Up. Hopefully Hardwick calls an end to their Richmond careers.
Um, Edwards was named second best behind Cotch on the Afl website!
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When you got a young undeveloped defence that are injury depleted any game plan will not save you.
We simply don't have enough classy players at the moment we probably need enough 2 good drafts.
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Sack Hardwick, not the answer, no game plan.
You idiot.
What a stupid thread.
Congratulations for giving Bomber Blitz something to laugh about.
You absolute muppet
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lol Grigg and Houli,
Jackson and Edwards can go get stuffed!
Agree with you, look I dont have any real problem with Houli or Grigg per se, I just feel that for us that we need to get a higher standard player thats all. As for Jackson and Edwards what can I say. Times Up. Hopefully Hardwick calls an end to their Richmond careers.
Um, Edwards was named second best behind Cotch on the Afl website!
who cares what the afl website says, its pretty blatantly obvious what he brings to the table. He takes a nice mark on HB and then chips a 5 metre pass straight into the breadbasket of an essendon player. This is Titch and will always be Titch. One of the biggest exponents of the unforced error in our side, undoes all his good work with several game killers each week
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Bothered me a bit to see him in the box tonight.
Would hate to see him begin to let public opinion form his decisions. Had enough of that from our last two coaches.
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Sell the Club,lock,stock and barrel,to some Arabs
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Sack Hardwick, not the answer, no game plan.
You idiot.
What a stupid thread.
Congratulations for giving Bomber Blitz something to laugh about.
You absolute muppet
Spot on Pope
Edit: Fixed quote
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Sell the Club,lock,stock and barrel,to some Arabs
:lol
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lol Grigg and Houli,
Jackson and Edwards can go get stuffed!
Agree with you, look I dont have any real problem with Houli or Grigg per se, I just feel that for us that we need to get a higher standard player thats all. As for Jackson and Edwards what can I say. Times Up. Hopefully Hardwick calls an end to their Richmond careers.
Um, Edwards was named second best behind Cotch on the Afl website!
so what?
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Bothered me a bit to see him in the box tonight.
Would hate to see him begin to let public opinion form his decisions. Had enough of that from our last two coaches.
Maybe Dimma was up in the box focussing on the way we structured up and moved the ball as a team. We still handball way way to much because too many Tigers don't trust their short precise hit-up footskills.
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When you got a young undeveloped defence that are injury depleted any game plan will not save you.
We simply don't have enough classy players at the moment we probably need enough 2 good drafts.
mcgaune. Thursfield. Senior players
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Sack Hardwick, not the answer, no game plan.
You idiot.
What a stupid thread.
Congratulations for giving Bomber Blitz something to laugh about.
You absolute muppet
Exactly my first thoughts when I read it.
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:ROTFL
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stuffing stupid eat your own thread... :banghead
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lol Grigg and Houli,
Jackson and Edwards can go get stuffed!
Agree with you, look I dont have any real problem with Houli or Grigg per se, I just feel that for us that we need to get a higher standard player thats all. As for Jackson and Edwards what can I say. Times Up. Hopefully Hardwick calls an end to their Richmond careers.
Um, Edwards was named second best behind Cotch on the Afl website!
so what?
Dont shoot the messenger! I never said i agreed with it!
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lol Grigg and Houli,
Jackson and Edwards can go get stuffed!
Agree with you, look I dont have any real problem with Houli or Grigg per se, I just feel that for us that we need to get a higher standard player thats all. As for Jackson and Edwards what can I say. Times Up. Hopefully Hardwick calls an end to their Richmond careers.
Um, Edwards was named second best behind Cotch on the Afl website!
Speechless.
Think the best thing he did all day was take a big grab.
Another game another worm burning grubber.
Opposition supporters laugh when Edwards kicks his grubbers. Can't except that at AFL standards.
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Hardwick was coaching well until the players raised the white flag. Hardwicks problem isnt that we will sack him, Hardwicks problem is that if he hasnt got the balls to trade out the likes of Jackson, Edwards and afew others THIS YEAR, he will probably lose his job next year and never coach again. Its his decision and his career, If I was him, I would trade out the 2 players mentioned, I would also look at what real improvement do the likes of Grigg and Houli really deliver for us as well. IMHO - Hartley did a poor job last year with Houli and Grigg. They cant help us be real winners IMHO.
you're like a dog at a bone with those 2 10flags. They arent our problem imo. Yes they are good ordinary b grade players which is an upgrade on what we had! and we gave away f all for them so they were a good decision. You cant have 22 champions in a side, you need good solid soldiers and we are even lacking in that. They are not the issue
Wouldn't call them B graders Tony. Jackson could have put us 28 points up in the third and misses and numerous other errors. A Bgrader would be someone like James Kelly at Geelong who would come to us and be an A grader because we have a habit to inflate our own. Edwards takes the best mark of his career kicks it ten metres to the opposition. B Graders hardly. C Graders at best.
Sack Hardwick is just laughable. Dimma aint going anywhere but there should be another 8-10 on the list that will. Maybe then the gameplan will last four quarters.
Now that there is some off field stability at the club we sack Hardwick. Laughable. FIve weeks ago he had turned us from boiled lollies into chocolates.
These losses are blessings in disguise and in three years nobody will remember the previous era or the guys that were culled based on where we will be pushing assuming Dimma follows through with his cull and doesn't hold on to list cloggers
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lol Grigg and Houli,
Jackson and Edwards can go get stuffed!
Agree with you, look I dont have any real problem with Houli or Grigg per se, I just feel that for us that we need to get a higher standard player thats all. As for Jackson and Edwards what can I say. Times Up. Hopefully Hardwick calls an end to their Richmond careers.
Um, Edwards was named second best behind Cotch on the Afl website!
I thought Helbig had a much better game than Edwards but hey what cred do I have next to the AFL website.
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Sell the Club,lock,stock and barrel,to some Arabs
We can play home games in Dubai and or Abu Dhabi and our reserves can align themselves with Manchester City.
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Edwards ooh dear me. He played 4 good games at the end of 2009 and people still are hoping he will come good.
Attention everyone this bloke is a VFL player and thats being generous. He is and always will be a very average footballer.
Dimma will seen know what its like to be under pressure unless he pulls his finger out and stops playing these spuds.
Play the kids and if we get burnt well so be it but playing Edwards, Hislop, Jackson, Thursfield in the one team is not helping his cause.
You can have a few battlers in your side(Jackson/Grigg) but to have so many average spuds playing together.
If you ask me we have shown a slight improvement collectively as a group than this point last year. Win a few against the battlers get slaughtered against the big boys. Same stripe different year.
Individually players like Vickery have gone forward but others have gone backwards.
The rebuild is only half way through but i think we will find out very soon if Dimma will see it through.
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Hardwick was coaching well until the players raised the white flag. Hardwicks problem isnt that we will sack him, Hardwicks problem is that if he hasnt got the balls to trade out the likes of Jackson, Edwards and afew others THIS YEAR, he will probably lose his job next year and never coach again. Its his decision and his career, If I was him, I would trade out the 2 players mentioned, I would also look at what real improvement do the likes of Grigg and Houli really deliver for us as well. IMHO - Hartley did a poor job last year with Houli and Grigg. They cant help us be real winners IMHO.
you're like a dog at a bone with those 2 10flags. They arent our problem imo. Yes they are good ordinary b grade players which is an upgrade on what we had! and we gave away f all for them so they were a good decision. You cant have 22 champions in a side, you need good solid soldiers and we are even lacking in that. They are not the issue
Wouldn't call them B graders Tony. Jackson could have put us 28 points up in the third and misses and numerous other errors. A Bgrader would be someone like James Kelly at Geelong who would come to us and be an A grader because we have a habit to inflate our own. Edwards takes the best mark of his career kicks it ten metres to the opposition. B Graders hardly. C Graders at best.
Sack Hardwick is just laughable. Dimma aint going anywhere but there should be another 8-10 on the list that will. Maybe then the gameplan will last four quarters.
Now that there is some off field stability at the club we sack Hardwick. Laughable. FIve weeks ago he had turned us from boiled lollies into chocolates.
These losses are blessings in disguise and in three years nobody will remember the previous era or the guys that were culled based on where we will be pushing assuming Dimma follows through with his cull and doesn't hold on to list cloggers
was talking about Grigg and Houli Tb not Jackson and edwards ;)
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Hardwick was coaching well until the players raised the white flag. Hardwicks problem isnt that we will sack him, Hardwicks problem is that if he hasnt got the balls to trade out the likes of Jackson, Edwards and afew others THIS YEAR, he will probably lose his job next year and never coach again. Its his decision and his career, If I was him, I would trade out the 2 players mentioned, I would also look at what real improvement do the likes of Grigg and Houli really deliver for us as well. IMHO - Hartley did a poor job last year with Houli and Grigg. They cant help us be real winners IMHO.
you're like a dog at a bone with those 2 10flags. They arent our problem imo. Yes they are good ordinary b grade players which is an upgrade on what we had! and we gave away f all for them so they were a good decision. You cant have 22 champions in a side, you need good solid soldiers and we are even lacking in that. They are not the issue
Wouldn't call them B graders Tony. Jackson could have put us 28 points up in the third and misses and numerous other errors. A Bgrader would be someone like James Kelly at Geelong who would come to us and be an A grader because we have a habit to inflate our own. Edwards takes the best mark of his career kicks it ten metres to the opposition. B Graders hardly. C Graders at best.
Sack Hardwick is just laughable. Dimma aint going anywhere but there should be another 8-10 on the list that will. Maybe then the gameplan will last four quarters.
Now that there is some off field stability at the club we sack Hardwick. Laughable. FIve weeks ago he had turned us from boiled lollies into chocolates.
These losses are blessings in disguise and in three years nobody will remember the previous era or the guys that were culled based on where we will be pushing assuming Dimma follows through with his cull and doesn't hold on to list cloggers
was talking about Grigg and Houli Tb not Jackson and edwards ;)
Sorry pal. :thumbsup
Yeah Grigg after a bright start has really faded away and Houli is serviceable without being great. THought he was sold short by his teammates with the kick and upfield options when Crameri nabbed him just before three quarter time.
Grigg may be a downhill skier. Prominent early whilst we were competitive but as our intensityas a side has dropped off so has his output.
Should've at least kicked one of his two set shots at the Punt Rd End.
TM you're assessment of Edwards though is spot on. My name for him is momentum killer.
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who cares what the afl website says, its pretty blatantly obvious what he brings to the table. He takes a nice mark on HB and then chips a 5 metre pass straight into the breadbasket of an essendon player. This is Titch and will always be Titch. One of the biggest exponents of the unforced error in our side, undoes all his good work with several game killers each week
He is easily my most 'cringeworthy' player when the ball is in his hands.
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Sack Hardwick, not the answer, no game plan.
You idiot.
What a stupid thread.
Congratulations for giving Bomber Blitz something to laugh about.
You absolute muppet
Spot on Pope
Edit: Fixed quote
:clapping :clapping
Funny stuff torch
Though I am pretty sure you're being serious which is even funnier
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Simply we don't have the cattle. We have too many who are not good enough to be playing afl football. Need to draft well over the next couple of years to see any significant improvement.
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Bothered me a bit to see him in the box tonight.
Would hate to see him begin to let public opinion form his decisions. Had enough of that from our last two coaches.
Yes me too. He needs to do what he thinks needs to be done and not dictated to by what others are saying in the environment (meaning public opinion and press) otherwise he has already had it.
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Hardwick was coaching well until the players raised the white flag. Hardwicks problem isnt that we will sack him, Hardwicks problem is that if he hasnt got the balls to trade out the likes of Jackson, Edwards and afew others THIS YEAR, he will probably lose his job next year and never coach again. Its his decision and his career, If I was him, I would trade out the 2 players mentioned, I would also look at what real improvement do the likes of Grigg and Houli really deliver for us as well. IMHO - Hartley did a poor job last year with Houli and Grigg. They cant help us be real winners IMHO.
you're like a dog at a bone with those 2 10flags. They arent our problem imo. Yes they are good ordinary b grade players which is an upgrade on what we had! and we gave away f all for them so they were a good decision. You cant have 22 champions in a side, you need good solid soldiers and we are even lacking in that. They are not the issue
Wouldn't call them B graders Tony. Jackson could have put us 28 points up in the third and misses and numerous other errors. A Bgrader would be someone like James Kelly at Geelong who would come to us and be an A grader because we have a habit to inflate our own. Edwards takes the best mark of his career kicks it ten metres to the opposition. B Graders hardly. C Graders at best.
Sack Hardwick is just laughable. Dimma aint going anywhere but there should be another 8-10 on the list that will. Maybe then the gameplan will last four quarters.
Now that there is some off field stability at the club we sack Hardwick. Laughable. FIve weeks ago he had turned us from boiled lollies into chocolates.
These losses are blessings in disguise and in three years nobody will remember the previous era or the guys that were culled based on where we will be pushing assuming Dimma follows through with his cull and doesn't hold on to list cloggers
Gotta agree, I'm glad its happening now, no chance of overrating our players now i hope.
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For me ill be totally honest, not sure about Dimma yet. Sure he has done some good things since coming on board. That being getting rid of some list cloggers, but giving Hislop a rookie spot and then a spot on the list, THEN to play him makes me think maybe he doesn't know footy like we think/hope he does. Everybody on this forum and Tigers supporters alike know he is not an AFL footballers a/hole.
Time is on Dimma's side at the moment but decisions like this one could speed that up real quick.
Dimma's biggest test is coming up come seasons end. I hope he is as tough as he was when he played or his time at the Tigers will be short lived.
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Edwards ooh dear me. He played 4 good games at the end of 2009 and people still are hoping he will come good.
Attention everyone this bloke is a VFL player and thats being generous. He is and always will be a very average footballer.
100,000% correct!!!!! I was even calling for him to be traded in his "good year" last year, he will never get any better and he is no good anyway IMO, never has been and never will be.
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For me ill be totally honest, not sure about Dimma yet. Sure he has done some good things since coming on board. That being getting rid of some list cloggers, but giving Hislop a rookie spot and then a spot on the list, THEN to play him makes me think maybe he doesn't know footy like we think/hope he does. Everybody on this forum and Tigers supporters alike know he is not an AFL footballers a/hole.
Time is on Dimma's side at the moment but decisions like this one could speed that up real quick.
Dimma's biggest test is coming up come seasons end. I hope he is as tough as he was when he played or his time at the Tigers will be short lived.
Great post
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gee some want Dimma's head now :lol
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Some knew after 2 years Wallace couldn't coach but the club honored the contract and we put up with 3 years of hell
The last 6 weeks has been poor
From team selection .preparation and game plans and strategy
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The last 6 weeks has been poor
From team selection .preparation and game plans and strategy
Agree with Jakmeoff!
Did we ever recover from the bus trip back from Sydney?
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Some knew after 2 years Wallace couldn't coach but the club honored the contract and we put up with 3 years of hell
The last 6 weeks has been poor
From team selection .preparation and game plans and strategy
cant comment cause l never seen the game. l aint going to bother watching players who should be cut
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Might also add the players treated the bus trip like a bit of a laugh and giggle.reality is we got beaten the day before ,
Coaches need to re enforce that footy ain't a joke
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the rot set in when we lost in darwin.
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My knock on Dimma is his inability so far to stop the bleeding...ever ! Is it a lack of cattle or the coach's pig headedness sticking to the gameplan ? I dunno but we just have tighten up. Something is not right with our gameplan. It's embarrassing at times seeing opposition players queuing up to kick the goal.
If you need any further evidence have a look at the differential between us and Collingwood. They have had 758 less points scored against them than us. They've played one less game but man that averages out to an unbelievable 50 points per game !
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the rot set in when we lost in darwin.
Yep
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Dimma needs to start following the teachings of one al Clarkson and cut this joking around crap i see at Training.
anyone late for training then Clarko makes the whole team suffer. Thats brutal and exactly what we want.
I still think Dimma is our man but i would like him to be brutal in his selction and in his general demeanour.
last week should've been reviewed and players need to be taught a lesson.
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Haven't read the hole lot yet, Has Malthouse been mentioned.
I know it wont happen but what is the take from OERites if we had a shot.
Dimmas is OK don't get me wrong, but Micky has a track record not to sneeze at.
I would say do it.
I would use Angus as an example, Dimma seems a bit too (Stab here) nice and I reckon someone like Mick would really just give it to this guy straight up and have him at least trying to put his body on the line and in the contest.
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I like Hardwick as a bloke more so than a coach, but you couldn't pass up then chance to get Malthouse, no matter who your current coach was.
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Dimmas is OK don't get me wrong, but Micky has a track record not to sneeze at.
Well it's a given we wouldn't leak goals under Mick like we do now. Just tighten it up Dimma for stuff's sake.
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Dumbest thread ever. We're the most experienced team going around. Surely the first half could have told you we're in for an exciting future
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Dumbest thread ever. We're the most experienced team going around. Surely the first half could have told you we're in for an exciting future
I agree with you, but im pretty sure their should be an 'un' in there somewhere.
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Try an 'in' you idiots
:police:
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the rot set in when we lost in darwin.
I agree, and dont want to go off topic blaming the "selling of games"or anything like that at all
But I believe from that point the players belief in themselves or care factor or what ever you want to call it has just drained away since that match
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Try an 'in' you idiots
:police:
:lol
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the rot set in when we lost in darwin.
I agree, and dont want to go off topic blaming the "selling of games"or anything like that at all
But I believe from that point the players belief in themselves or care factor or what ever you want to call it has just drained away since that match
In hindsight it was as if the club thought we had arrived after beating Essendon in front of 83,500 with all the finals like atmosphere as was mentioned post match as well as the possibly the three Bomber teamates going head to head in Dimma vs Thompson and Hird. All these little sub plots. We won the match and we were the media darlings. We handled it appallingly and have never recovered since. Head was in the clouds for five weeks then we came down with a thud after the Blues game. The higher you seem to be the harder and further you fall. Club needs to refocus realign regather and respond.
Dimma get back to the tough talk of season 2010 and forget this crap of friendly father figure and ensure those that need to be moved on are gone.
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Try an 'in' you idiots
:police:
Clever, wity response, without reasorting to school buoy humor.
Well dun
(http://www.thenaughtyseat.co.uk/ekmps/shops/rescapeltd/images/28mm-super-effort-well-done-praise-effort-stickers-220-p.gif)
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That's not a classy post, guy. You could learn a lot from me and 65'
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Would you prefer this sticker?
(http://www.booksadolescents.info/wp-content/uploads/Scratch%20Sniff.jpg)
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Try an 'in' you idiots
:police:
Clever, wity response, without reasorting to school buoy humor.
Well dun
(http://www.thenaughtyseat.co.uk/ekmps/shops/rescapeltd/images/28mm-super-effort-well-done-praise-effort-stickers-220-p.gif)
:thumbsup :thumbsup
Well done - I'm impressed ;D
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On what basis do people think Malthouse would be doing any better than Hardwick under the cicumstances, in particular leaking goals?
In 2000 maltouse took over a side that finished last on the ladder the year before with 4 wins and a % of 85 in that year they suffered one 10 goal loss, a 50 point loss and a number of narrow defeats
in his first year they finished with 7 wins and % of 86. this included a couple of 10 goal losses a 120 point flogging and a number of 40 odd point losses (including one to us)
In his second year he improved his no of wins ( to finish......9th :P) and an improved % of 107, still with a couple of heavy losses ( carlton is the regular offender through this period) but offset by some large wins.
Did he have to strip back to basics to the same degree dimma has? did he start so far behind the rest of the comp as what dimma has?
I'd say no, yet his first two years were not much better than what we are seeing now.
even in his third year, when the skunks finished 4th, it was with only 13 wins.
It has taken him 10 years to get to where the filth are now, yet some are expecting hardwick to turn a basket case around in what, 1 1/2 seasons. stuff me not even macgyver could make strawberry jam out of sh|t .
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Will admit I am not happy with the last couple of weeks, Melb game was terrible, Carlton one was well everyone one knows my thoughts on that one and last night well what I thought most on here was expecting so.... ::) a little persepctive wouldn't go a stray.
I find it extraordinary that people are calling for the coach's head less than 18 months into what was always going to be a huge job is laughable. Granted he's probably made a few mistakes along the way but that was going to happen
The majoirty have said they don't want short cuts, they were expecting a another tough year the 2nd into a massive re-build, didn't expect finals and some even went as far as to wanting us to finsih bottom 2 or 3.
Now that wish becomes a possbility everyone is jumping up and down and it would the sky appears to falling once more. I read people say early draft picks is what needed in 2011 not finals... struth I thought some people would be happy now ;D
Make up your minds what you want exactly?
Maybe we got caught up in the hype that the media spewed out, the talk of finals, the talk of how far we'd supposedly improved on last year. Take a depth breath and think back to what your expectations were at the start of the season. I would think for most we are exactly about where people thought we would be
Yep we've had a awful 5 weeks but sadly I come to realise that maybe the last five weeks (apart from the nightmare that was round 15) was what we needed. So we could to get our heads out the clouds and back to reality to enable us to realise we've got a bloody long long way to go..
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would have to agree with Al on that one.
Dimma has inherited an absolute basket case. Seriously right now we have the worst team, equal to port, in the whole league.
4 Potential A graders. Few B's the rest c,d,e's.
We have a rubbish team with no spine, zip nothing at all.
FF okay, but no ruck, no chf, no chb and no full back.
My only concern is that Dimma doesnt make the right choices come end of year.
our team gets treated like rag dolls most weeks because we have skinny weak minded players like Hislop and Edwards and average ones like Jackson, while your got Tuck sitting at Coburg.
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H-Wick has only cleaned a bit "A BIT" of Richmond's list.
Has gone against his own philosphy's ...
We all know what they were.
He is soft and will not make tough calls ...
BUT most of all, THERE IS NO STRUCTURE!
H-Wick and his girlfriends have no idea, useless, hopeless ... list goes on!
We need a HARD, ARROGANT, RUTHLESS, STRUCTURE MINDED coach ...
Michael Malthouse!
He can turn "poo" into "GOLD". eg: Collingwood.
Our midfield DO NOT RUN! NO RUN! NO HUNGER!
Essendon last night when they smelt blood POUNCED!
We are going to win easy-pointless matches and have more wins then last year.
We only beat teams that are not inform or injury depleted.
edited: for avoiding the swear filter - read your PM torch :banghead
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There Torchy goes with his insults again. You're off for a holiday now, chiefy
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There Torchy goes with his insults again. You're off for a holiday now, chiefy
Get it back on topic you idiot.
I'm a bit sick of having to wade through this garbage in every thread.
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the rot set in when we lost in darwin.
I agree, and dont want to go off topic blaming the "selling of games"or anything like that at all
But I believe from that point the players belief in themselves or care factor or what ever you want to call it has just drained away since that match
There is no excuses to why we lost. We should of beaten them IMO.
The lose really took the wind out of our sails.
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Haven't read the hole lot yet, Has Malthouse been mentioned.
I know it wont happen but what is the take from OERites if we had a shot.
Dimmas is OK don't get me wrong, but Micky has a track record not to sneeze at.
I would say do it.
I would use Angus as an example, Dimma seems a bit too (Stab here) nice and I reckon someone like Mick would really just give it to this guy straight up and have him at least trying to put his body on the line and in the contest.
How could u not sign Mick over Hardwick,if not for his record over just the last 5 years,ffs!
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There Torchy goes with his insults again. You're off for a holiday now, chiefy
Get it back on topic you idiot.
I'm a bit sick of having to wade through this garbage in every thread.
:lol
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How could u not sign Mick over Hardwick,if not for his record over just the last 5 years,ffs!
But Ox - we couldn't sign Malthouse 18 months ago because he was contracted to C'wood = he wans't an option
And despite the stupidity of the agreement that Eddie McHead has put together with Buckley & Mick - Malthouse is contracted to the Pies for the next 3 years and I cannot see him reneging on that contract. So he isn't an option now
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Relton Roberts
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Relton Roberts
:clapping
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Dimma needs to start following the teachings of one al Clarkson and cut this joking around crap i see at Training.
anyone late for training then Clarko makes the whole team suffer. Thats brutal and exactly what we want.
I still think Dimma is our man but i would like him to be brutal in his selction and in his general demeanour.
last week should've been reviewed and players need to be taught a lesson.
spot on!
mediocrity is engrained in this club wether or not we like to admit it. Dimma needs to set the standard and absolutely hate anything but excellence. Excellence at training, excellence in every drill performed. if ONE kick doesnt hit the target they start the drill again from the beginning. Dont allow mediocrity to continue like ALL coaches have in the past 20 years otherwise things wont EVER change.
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On what basis do people think Malthouse would be doing any better than Hardwick under the cicumstances, in particular leaking goals?
In 2000 maltouse took over a side that finished last on the ladder the year before with 4 wins and a % of 85 in that year they suffered one 10 goal loss, a 50 point loss and a number of narrow defeats
in his first year they finished with 7 wins and % of 86. this included a couple of 10 goal losses a 120 point flogging and a number of 40 odd point losses (including one to us)
In his second year he improved his no of wins ( to finish......9th :P) and an improved % of 107, still with a couple of heavy losses ( carlton is the regular offender through this period) but offset by some large wins.
Did he have to strip back to basics to the same degree dimma has? did he start so far behind the rest of the comp as what dimma has?
I'd say no, yet his first two years were not much better than what we are seeing now.
even in his third year, when the skunks finished 4th, it was with only 13 wins.
It has taken him 10 years to get to where the filth are now, yet some are expecting hardwick to turn a basket case around in what, 1 1/2 seasons. eff me not even macgyver could make strawberry jam out of sh|t .
Yep fair enough Al . I'd stick with Dimma anyway but facts are only the poxy Suns and maybe Port have had more points scored against them this year than us and it was the same last year.
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When hearing the news Dimma was to be our coach all i thought i could depend upon is at least we would be a team that was tough and had a go just like Dimma played. But to this point they are still weak and don't won't to play that type of footy. For me this is his biggest problem at the moment.
Toughen these boys up Dimma.......please!!!!
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the rot set in when we lost in darwin.
I agree, and dont want to go off topic blaming the "selling of games"or anything like that at all
But I believe from that point the players belief in themselves or care factor or what ever you want to call it has just drained away since that match
In hindsight it was as if the club thought we had arrived after beating Essendon in front of 83,500 with all the finals like atmosphere as was mentioned post match as well as the possibly the three Bomber teamates going head to head in Dimma vs Thompson and Hird. All these little sub plots. We won the match and we were the media darlings. We handled it appallingly and have never recovered since. Head was in the clouds for five weeks then we came down with a thud after the Blues game. The higher you seem to be the harder and further you fall. Club needs to refocus realign regather and respond.
Dimma get back to the tough talk of season 2010 and forget this crap of friendly father figure and ensure those that need to be moved on are gone.
Great Post
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I don't think it is anything but tiredness. It is a young list they are tired, lots of injured, poo happens. Don't blame the coach.
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I don't think it is anything but tiredness. It is a young list they are tired, lots of injured, poo happens. Don't blame the coach.
We weren't playing with less numbers than Essendon and we activated our sub late. We aren't blaming the coach but its the players that are running out there and performing and frankly as in the past they failed to stand up to the onslaught of the opposition.
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the problem is not so much the youngsters its the senior players that are letting us down now
the ones who have played close to or near 100 games. Newman, Jack R, Edwards, Jackson have had a horrid month lets be honest.
In any other team id say 2 of those wouldnt get a game outside of GWS and GC and even that is a stretch right now.
Then you have the e graders like Hislop still getting a game. There in lies half the problem
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I knew this was coming ...
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We drop Hislop who isn't up tao scratch for White who isn't up to scratch either. Like for like.
Dimma cannot get rid of every dud on the list he inherited in one hit. Let him serve his three years see where he is with the list and take it from there.
One who should be under the microscope in the media is Wallace. Got off scot free once he left the club. Recruited too many flankers and we still have a team who can't tackle, break tackles and shepherd. That's the legacy of the Wallace era two years on.
A turd is a turd any way you look at it.
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We drop Hislop who isn't up tao scratch for White who isn't up to scratch either. Like for like.
Dimma cannot get rid of every dud on the list he inherited in one hit. Let him serve his three years see where he is with the list and take it from there.
One who should be under the microscope in the media is Wallace. Got off scot free once he left the club. Recruited too many flankers and we still have a team who can't tackle, break tackles and shepherd. That's the legacy of the Wallace era two years on.
A turd is a turd any way you look at it.
good post. :thumbsup
but why bring herslop off the rookie list?
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An error Mr Tigra IMHO by Dimma but hardly one that was going to stifle the club long term.
Sure Hicks Contin or someone else may have benefitted the club more but given the result in the last few weeks I don't think the difference may have been that great on the scoreboard which is what we base our commentary on ultimately. Wallpaper over the cracks possibly. :thumbsup
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is Hicks still at the club?
thought he rode at pakenham in the first race yesterday ::)
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is Hicks still at the club?
thought he rode at pakenham in the first race yesterday ::)
yes played coburg ressies I believe
I know he's been injured but struth he hasn't looked close to getting promoted this year at all
Of the handful of Coburg games I've seen he wasn't great.
Raises the question will they keep him beyond this year ???
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Yes, and he will get a 3 year contract from Lord Cameron
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is Hicks still at the club?
thought he rode at pakenham in the first race yesterday ::)
yes played coburg ressies I believe
I know he's been injured but struth he hasn't looked close to getting promoted this year at all
Of the handful of Coburg games I've seen he wasn't great.
Raises the question will they keep him beyond this year ???
Was really disappointed in the Hicks selection.
I was so keen on Matthew Scott who ended up going Round 3 of the rookie draft and since went on to win Werribee's Best and Fairest in the Reserves and had 3 best on grounds for Werribee this year before doing his knee. Any blind man could see this kid was going to be a decent gamble on drafting (Unlucky to blow his knee out)
Annoys me that an average joe that knows no more about football than the average bloke can see this and yet our paid recruiters can't.
Hicks was a terrible draft choice IMO.
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bump ...
Hardwick still the man?
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bump ...
Hardwick still the man?
Certainly is. Still has a season and 6 games to run in his contract.
Is Hardwick responsible for Jako Edwards McGuane Thursty White etc?
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bump ...
Hardwick still the man?
Certainly is. Still has a season and 6 games to run in his contract.
Is Hardwick responsible for Jako Edwards McGuane Thursty White etc?
Agreed. :thumbsup
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Jackson kicking to a two on one against in the middle of the ground for the ball to be turned over b/c Jako can't hit a target or make a correct decision or a quick instinctive one, cannot be put on the coach in the heat of battle.
Let it go.
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It can if he keeps picking hhim and doesnt delist him.
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It can if he keeps picking hhim and doesnt delist him.
Then yes this time next year he may be back with his mate at Hawthorn.
That is why the message he needs to preach this off season needs to be stronger than the one he dictated two years ago. Has to go back to his mantra of 2009 when he took over and 2010 to keep his job for 2013.
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hardwick appeared to be the man but over the past 2 months he has shown th ereal reasons why the bombers didnt get him
him to look for a real coach
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is Hicks still at the club?
thought he rode at pakenham in the first race yesterday ::)
yes played coburg ressies I believe
I know he's been injured but struth he hasn't looked close to getting promoted this year at all
Of the handful of Coburg games I've seen he wasn't great.
Raises the question will they keep him beyond this year ???
Was really disappointed in the Hicks selection.
I was so keen on Matthew Scott who ended up going Round 3 of the rookie draft and since went on to win Werribee's Best and Fairest in the Reserves and had 3 best on grounds for Werribee this year before doing his knee. Any blind man could see this kid was going to be a decent gamble on drafting (Unlucky to blow his knee out)
Annoys me that an average joe that knows no more about football than the average bloke can see this and yet our paid recruiters can't.
Hicks was a terrible draft choice IMO.
b&f in VFL reserves :lol...what next , spewing we missed out on a budding star from yakandanda 3rds :o
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Today says enough
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we have 10 players who played today who would struggle to get a game with Noble Park. Its just diabolical what the recruiters have done over the last 5 years. Just disgraceful.
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Jackson kicking to a two on one against in the middle of the ground for the ball to be turned over b/c Jako can't hit a target or make a correct decision or a quick instinctive one, cannot be put on the coach in the heat of battle.
Let it go.
absolutely spot on there tucker, but the problem is that hardwick has said that jackson would one of his first picked every week, and that concerns me.
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Jackson kicking to a two on one against in the middle of the ground for the ball to be turned over b/c Jako can't hit a target or make a correct decision or a quick instinctive one, cannot be put on the coach in the heat of battle.
Let it go.
absolutely spot on there tucker, but the problem is that hardwick has said that jackson would one of his first picked every week, and that concerns me.
Agree the comments made about Jackson and Edwards are haunting Hardwick IMHO.
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So I have to ask, if we had been flogged like the Dees were..........would they have sacked Hardwick???
I think they actually may of, not that I would like to see it happen.
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Nah I dont think so WAT. Still a year to go on his contract, so definitely not. But if we are in the same possie next year and we lost by 30 goals.....
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Nah I dont think so WAT. Still a year to go on his contract, so definitely not. But if we are in the same possie next year and we lost by 30 goals.....
Yeah true JT.....let's hope we are not in that position next year then!
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So I have to ask, if we had been flogged like the Dees were..........would they have sacked Hardwick???
I think they actually may of, not that I would like to see it happen.
Absolutely NOT
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So I have to ask, if we had been flogged like the Dees were..........would they have sacked Hardwick???
I think they actually may of, not that I would like to see it happen.
Of course they wouldn't have, just like they didn't with Wallace, because they are too scared someone will write that they 'eat their own' and it is just typical Richmond to sack a coach.
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bump ...
Hardwick still the man?
Certainly is. Still has a season and 6 games to run in his contract.
Is Hardwick responsible for Jako Edwards McGuane Thursty White etc?
He's responsible for how they played this year....
He's responsible for playing them over others.
Does this guy have a halo over his head,ffs!!?
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Dean Bailey was worse than Tim Watson and Danny Frawley Melbourne persisted with him for far too long. I just might add that Karma is a bitch isn't it Dean read tanking for draft picks. Bailey should have been sacked last year at the very latest. Hardwick doesn't compare to Bailey "YET". If Damian has a year like this one next year then I will really fear for his position, the losses we have had this year are not to dissimilar to Melbournes and if continues into next year then Hardwicks in trouble.
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So I have to ask, if we had been flogged like the Dees were..........would they have sacked Hardwick???
I think they actually may of, not that I would like to see it happen.
Absolutely NOT
I wouldn't be that sure WP, funnier things have happened..
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This time next year Hardwick will be in the gun or sacked.
Face it Richmond supporters, we aren't going to make the finals in 2012.
Are players are mentally weak and we don't have a game plan andddddd we do not run hard with or without the football like other teams.
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This time next year Hardwick will be in the gun or sacked.
Face it Richmond supporters, we aren't going to make the finals in 2012.
Are players are mentally weak and we don't have a game plan andddddd we do not run hard with or without the football like other teams.
And a new coach will fix all this :help
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This time next year Hardwick will be in the gun or sacked.
Face it Richmond supporters, we aren't going to make the finals in 2012.
Are players are mentally weak and we don't have a game plan andddddd we do not run hard with or without the football like other teams.
And a new coach will fix all this :help
No ... Malthouse will!
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This time next year Hardwick will be in the gun or sacked.
Face it Richmond supporters, we aren't going to make the finals in 2012.
Are players are mentally weak and we don't have a game plan andddddd we do not run hard with or without the football like other teams.
And a new coach will fix all this :help
No ... Malthouse will!
lol :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Hardwork is doing everything the board has directed him too. As hard as it is for some to swallow - his job is almost purely developmental and educational. It's about building up the foundations and structure for the future. Hardwick was not hired as a tactical coach. He may well become one but his, and his assistants, strengths are foremost in the one area that has dragged us down into medrocity for decades - developmenting. Forget recruiting, forget tactics, they are useless if you can not get the best out of what you have. Hardwick was given definite goals to reach and he has more than reached them. Until the goals switch back to onfield success then he is as safe.
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:yep
His job is to deliver a blueprint for success, not necessarily success itself.
If he gets a renewal of his contract that will change.
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This time next year Hardwick will be in the gun or sacked.
Face it Richmond supporters, we aren't going to make the finals in 2012.
Are players are mentally weak and we don't have a game plan andddddd we do not run hard with or without the football like other teams.
And a new coach will fix all this :help
No ... Malthouse will!
The annual messiah hunt. Cracks me up. People always want short cuts, instant success but you ignore simple facts such as... Malthouse took years to build Collingwood up and they are one of the most well resourced clubs in the comp.
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Face it Richmond supporters, we aren't going to make the finals in 2012.
And you've only worked this out when exactly
The last 10 weeks ;D
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This time next year Hardwick will be in the gun or sacked.
Face it Richmond supporters, we aren't going to make the finals in 2012.
Are players are mentally weak and we don't have a game plan andddddd we do not run hard with or without the football like other teams.
And a new coach will fix all this :help
No ... Malthouse will!
:nope
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This is development year 2 and still some poo to clean out.
Expectations of the coach will be higher next year.
Talk of sacking him now is nothing short of lunacy.
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I actually still think if Dimma gets rid of at least 10 players this year and there is some development in the kids already here and in the kids drafted then he deserves to at least get another contract.
He has done what any coach with any brains would have done turned over at least 30-35 players from a list that was in total decay bar about 10 players that he inherited from a regime who was more self absorbed into themselves rather than focused on looking on the list realistically.
Dimma for the most part has merely been working with blokes that have very little football ability at this level and he is slowly but surely turning them over.
People who can't see this are just looking at the romance of Malthouse and not at the reality.
I reckon everyone on this site were happy with appointment of Wallace in 2004 and would have thought that we would be a force by 2007/08 on that appointment.
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When you got a young undeveloped defence that are injury depleted any game plan will not save you.
We simply don't have enough classy players at the moment we probably need enough 2 good drafts.
For Gods sake stop blaming our defence, you people sound like Hardwick, 65 to 40 inside 50s every week 25 to 5 offensive tackles IS NOT a defensive problem its a midfield/ forwardline problem, and thats a COACHING PROBLEM, thats the wrong players on the ground or in the wrong position, Hardwick's selection policy, positioning and game day tactics are the worst in the AFL and NOBODY can dispute that
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Hardwick's selection policy, positioning and game day tactics are the worst in the AFL and NOBODY can dispute that
Ever heard of a club called Melbourne :wallywink
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Hardwick's selection policy, positioning and game day tactics are the worst in the AFL and NOBODY can dispute that
Ever heard of a club called Melbourne :wallywink
Bailey out-coached Hardwick on EVERY level when we last met, so dont take any solice from Bailey being saced, where does that leave Harwick, the worst coach in the AFL ?
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Hardwick's selection policy, positioning and game day tactics are the worst in the AFL and NOBODY can dispute that
Ever heard of a club called Melbourne :wallywink
Bailey out-coached Hardwick on EVERY level when we last met, so dont take any solice from Bailey being saced, where does that leave Harwick, the worst coach in the AFL ?
I think at the current moment MatthewPrimus or Vossy has worst coach in AFL award at the moment.
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When you got a young undeveloped defence that are injury depleted any game plan will not save you.
We simply don't have enough classy players at the moment we probably need enough 2 good drafts.
For Gods sake stop blaming our defence, you people sound like Hardwick, 65 to 40 inside 50s every week 25 to 5 offensive tackles IS NOT a defensive problem its a midfield/ forwardline problem, and thats a COACHING PROBLEM, thats the wrong players on the ground or in the wrong position, Hardwick's selection policy, positioning and game day tactics are the worst in the AFL and NOBODY can dispute that
Thats fine, maybe it is initially something to do with the lack of midfield/forward pressure, but hell when the ball goes down near our backline it usually results in goals..many many goals to our opposition. That tells me it's a backline problem as well!!!!
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Hardwick's selection policy, positioning and game day tactics are the worst in the AFL and NOBODY can dispute that
Ever heard of a club called Melbourne :wallywink
Bailey out-coached Hardwick on EVERY level when we last met, so dont take any solice from Bailey being saced, where does that leave Harwick, the worst coach in the AFL ?
we lost that game amongst many others not because of Hardwick, but due to the fact clubs build themselves up to beat us because we are still the joke of the competition. Our players are mentally fragile when the going gets tough
Its the same reason why GC will always think they can beat us and clubs like North and Demons too. We are not feared or respected. We havent been for 30 years
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Masterful display of tactical wizadry today!
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Masterful display of tactical wizadry today!
LOL
The trend is bad for Hardwick at the moment. He has 12 months to save his career and Im having big doubts he can do it especially if hes gonna continue with blokes like Jackson and McGuane and afew others.
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His incompetence is killing Jack
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His incompetence is killing Jack
Jack is killing himself, mixes with the wrong people who drag him down. BTW where is our long lost boxer ;D
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Masterful display of tactical wizadry today!
LOL
The trend is bad for Hardwick at the moment. He has 12 months to save his career and Im having big doubts he can do it especially if hes gonna continue with blokes like Jackson and McGuane and afew others.
This is what im going to judge him on in.
If, next season we still have McGuane, Farmer, Edwards, Hislop Connors and jackson on our list but delist Tuck - they can stick my 2012 membership up their arse
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This is what im going to judge him on in.
If, next season we still have McGuane, Farmer, Edwards, Hislop Connors and jackson on our list but delist Tuck - they can stick my 2012 membership up their behind
Post of the Year :thumbsup
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I have to say that I will also be struggling to find reasons to buy a membership next year if these players are on the list. Its a group of players that offer NO HOPE to the supporters.
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I have to say that I will also be struggling to find reasons to buy a membership next year if these players are on the list. Its a group of players that offer NO HOPE to the supporters.
Does this mean you joining the skunks ;D
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I have to say that I will also be struggling to find reasons to buy a membership next year if these players are on the list. Its a group of players that offer NO HOPE to the supporters.
Does this mean you joining the skunks ;D
It means that Ill be keeping my dough in my pocket. Watching most of our games on Foxtel and picking and choosing if I attend any of our games.
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I have to say that I will also be struggling to find reasons to buy a membership next year if these players are on the list. Its a group of players that offer NO HOPE to the supporters.
Does this mean you joining the skunks ;D
It means that Ill be keeping my dough in my pocket. Watching most of our games on Foxtel and picking and choosing if I attend any of our games.
l think you should stay loyal ;D is that not what you tell me each year :thumbsup :santa
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Now ramps you know thats crap you will buy another membership as most of us will.
That being said im starting to question if its better to stay home with my daughter or watch another year of heading to the G to watch Graham, Mcguane and the magician Edwards with all his party tricks
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Now ramps you know thats crap you will buy another membership as most of us will.
That being said im starting to question if its better to stay home with my daughter or watch another year of heading to the G to watch Graham, Mcguane and the magician Edwards with all his party tricks
Yeah sadly, the months will pass, the draft will come, new hope will spring eternal and theyll get my cash again :help
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I have to say that I will also be struggling to find reasons to buy a membership next year if these players are on the list. Its a group of players that offer NO HOPE to the supporters.
Does this mean you joining the skunks ;D
It means that Ill be keeping my dough in my pocket. Watching most of our games on Foxtel and picking and choosing if I attend any of our games.
l think you should stay loyal ;D is that not what you tell me each year :thumbsup :santa
Yes I do ;D Glad to see you hanging around Monky. Cant have you leaving the scene now. Whose gonna take the pot shots from the cheap seats Monky if your not on the Tiger bandwagon ;D
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Yes I do ;D Glad to see you hanging around Monky. Cant have you leaving the scene now. Whose gonna take the pot shots from the cheap seats Monky if your not on the Tiger bandwagon ;D
;D am never far away. Never left just never login ;D
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Foxtel = <$$ RFC Membership
and better food.
Get serious Richmond
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Foxtel = <$$ RFC Membership
and better food.
Get serious Richmond
Foxtel is cheaper than a RFC membership?
What sort of membership do you have?
:lol
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Foxtel is cheaper than a RFC membership?
What sort of membership do you have?
:lol
it's certainly cheaper than mine ;D
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Foxtel is cheaper than a RFC membership?
What sort of membership do you have?
:lol
it's certainly cheaped than mine ;D
I struggle to find the $180 per year.
:cheers
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Foxtel is cheaper than a RFC membership?
What sort of membership do you have?
:lol
it's certainly cheaped than mine ;D
I struggle to find the $180 per year.
:cheers
do you want me to help ;D can call off the debt collectors for a little while ;D
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Anyone changed their views?
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if he peees Tuck off before farmer,foley or Jackson he's a moron
Also,why was today the first time in months he coached better than the op?
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Anyone changed their views?
if dimma keeps playing foley jackson and farmer yes!
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Am over Jackson and Farmer .Foley should be traded
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Am over Jackson and Farmer .Foley should be traded
Jackson had 19 disposals at 95% efficiency.
:thumbsup
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Am over Jackson and Farmer .Foley should be traded
Jackson had 19 disposals at 95% efficiency.
:thumbsup
Time to trade him or foley
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Am over Jackson and Farmer .Foley should be traded
Jackson had 19 disposals at 95% efficiency.
:thumbsup
Time to trade him or foley
Foley was abysmal yesterday
Jackson was actually OK because he concentrated on his job of tagging. Though his stupid free against Goodes in the final qtr was a disgrace and that's just one of the reasons I'd trade him = too many brain explosions.
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Jackson was actually OK because he concentrated on his job of tagging. Though his stupid free against Goodes in the final qtr was a disgrace and that's just one of the reasons I'd trade him = too many brain explosions.
Jackson = dumbest smart bloke alive
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Am over Jackson and Farmer .Foley should be traded
Jackson had 19 disposals at 95% efficiency.
:thumbsup
Time to trade him or foley
Foley was abysmal yesterday
Jackson was actually OK because he concentrated on his job of tagging. Though his stupid free against Goodes in the final qtr was a disgrace and that's just one of the reasons I'd trade him = too many brain explosions.
cant have players giving away stupid free kicks
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Am over Jackson and Farmer .Foley should be traded
Jackson had 19 disposals at 95% efficiency.
:thumbsup
Yes but the problem is an effective kick is any that covers 40 metres, regardless of where it ends up.
There were a couple of occasions where he bombed it forward and wasn't to adavantage of the forward and the ball rebounded straight back.
Still goes down as effective though.
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Yes but the problem is an effective kick is any that covers 40 metres, regardless of where it ends up.
There were a couple of occasions where he bombed it forward and wasn't to adavantage of the forward and the ball rebounded straight back.
Still goes down as effective though.
is this true?
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Am over Jackson and Farmer .Foley should be traded
Jackson had 19 disposals at 95% efficiency.
:thumbsup
Time to trade him or foley
Foley was abysmal yesterday
Jackson was actually OK because he concentrated on his job of tagging. Though his stupid free against Goodes in the final qtr was a disgrace and that's just one of the reasons I'd trade him = too many brain explosions.
agree on all points
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Yes but the problem is an effective kick is any that covers 40 metres, regardless of where it ends up.
There were a couple of occasions where he bombed it forward and wasn't to adavantage of the forward and the ball rebounded straight back.
Still goes down as effective though.
is this true?
yep efficiency is one of the biggest BS stats. A smart short pass out in front of ur open streaming into space team mate which he then runs onto is classified as ineffective. A beautiful lace out short pass to a teammate who then drops a sitter is again classifed as an ineffective kick. Rubbish interpretation of the term efficiency
edit - and back on topic Tuck needs to be signed up asap. He's made the decision makers look silly by keeping him out til now. The bloke is a clearance machine and takes heat off Cotch and martin. Very much has a part to play in this half baked developing side.
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I used to be a bit indifferent about the Tuck debate.
But after watching him closely yesterday, I am in support of keeping him on for just one more year.
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problem is this, Club couldnt trade him last year, so there mind was made up before Round 1 this year, which is sad.
Other problem is that he had to play 15 games to automatically get a contract for 2012.
Also there would be a $$$$$ incentive for 15 games or more.
Club was never going to let him play 15 games this year.
GWS bound in 2012
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Face it Richmond supporters, we aren't going to make the finals in 2012.
And you've only worked this out when exactly
The last 10 weeks ;D
This "social worker" is a social worker, his game plan and structures do not play to our strengths. We waste opportunities going forward, don't fill gaps in defense and leak easy goals ... can't put teams away, mentally weak ... he is the problem ... he drafted all these "depth players" that played yesterday and none of them were effective. Addam Maric can play, plus he is rookie listed ...
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I don't know what to tell my kids anymore
I can't continue to lie to them
I'm being dishonest like the RFC
Is it the FTF or FFS?
:bow :shh
The nervous 'tick' is back. Start by resisting the urge to prod the keyboard ;)