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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 11, 2013, 06:24:33 PM
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In: Knights, Nahas and Vlastuin
No outs yet.
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Ins: Vlaustin, Nahas, Knights
Outs: nil so far
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Ins: Vlaustin, Nahas, Knights
Outs: nil so far
beaten by 3 seconds lol
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Don't think there will be any changes to be honest
We will know at 1.10pm Saturday arvo when Coburg runs out
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Nahas is surprising for mine.
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Ins: Vlaustin, Nahas, Knights
Outs: nil so far
beaten by 3 seconds lol
Yep >:(
;D
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no outs so far
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Don't think there will be any changes to be honest
We will know at 1.10pm Saturday arvo when Coburg runs out
Think you are probably right
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Don't think there will be any changes to be honest
We will know at 1.10pm Saturday arvo when Coburg runs out
Or this time tomorrow night when the final teams are submited ;)
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Don't think there will be any changes to be honest
We will know at 1.10pm Saturday arvo when Coburg runs out
Or this time tomorrow night when the final teams are submited ;)
;D
Yeah but Saturday will tell us if there's going to be a late change ;D
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Extended benches for Sunday's games: Richmond: Ellis, King, Grigg, Batchelor, Knights, Nahas, Vlastuin
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Ins: Vlaustin, Nahas, Knights
Outs: nil so far
beaten by 3 seconds lol
Yep >:(
;D
;D
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Don't think there will be any changes to be honest
We will know at 1.10pm Saturday arvo when Coburg runs out
Or this time tomorrow night when the final teams are submited ;)
;D
Yeah but Saturday will tell us if there's going to be a late change ;D
:thumbsup :thumbsup
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Jees gonna be a few rangas running around on the weekend :shh
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Anyone got the lineup ::)
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Cheers :clapping
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Here's both teams in the old format ;D
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RICHMOND
B Steven Morris , Alex Rance , Troy Chaplin
HB Dylan Grimes , Ricky Petterd , Bachar Houli
C Chris Newman , Trent Cotchin , Reece Conca
HF Brett Deledio , Shane Edwards , Daniel Jackson
F Luke McGuane , Jack Riewoldt , Ty Vickery
FOL Ivan Maric , Dustin Martin , Shane Tuck
I/C Jake King , Brandon Ellis , Chris Knights , Robin Nahas , Jake Batchelor , Shaun Grigg , Nick Vlastuin (Three to be omitted)
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Chris Knights , Robin Nahas , Nick Vlastuin
NEW
Chris Knights , Nick Vlastuin
WESTERN BULLDOGS
B Brett Goodes, Dale Morris, Liam Picken
HB Adam Cooney, Jordan Roughead, Tom Young
C Nick Lower, Daniel Cross, Clay Smith
HF Mitch Wallis, Liam Jones, Daniel Giansiracusa
F Robert Murphy, Will Minson, Tory Dickson
FOL Ayce Cordy, Ryan Griffen, Tom Liberatore
I/C Lukas Markovic, Koby Stevens, Jason Johannisen, Easton Wood, Shaun Higgins, Jack Macrae, Luke Dahlhaus (Three to be omitted)
IN
Lukas Markovic, Easton Wood, Jack Macrae
NEW
Jack Macrae
MILESTONES: Daniel Cross - Playing 200th game
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/season/team-announcement
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Would love to see this:
Morris Rance Grimes
Pett's Chaplin Houli
Lids Cotch Conca
Knights Vicks Edwards
King Reiwoldt McGuane
Foll: Dusty, Vlaustin, Maric
Int: Jacko, Grigg, Tuck Sub: Ellis
Emerg: Newman, Nahas and Batch
BTW Jack MaCrae will be a future star. He is the sort of rangy winger we need.
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Shhhhhhhhh..... "The weapon" is a secret. :shh
Naming him on the extended bench ;)
............beautiful work tigers! :clapping
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Lids said Vlastuin isn't far away from debuting. Make of that what you will.
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Knights, Vlastuin and Nahas named in the Coburg line-up yet not the other players on the extended bench in the Richmond squad. Sounds like no changes this week.
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Lids said Vlastuin isn't far away from debuting. Make of that what you will.
I'd be surprised if he came in this week, was down on form compared to his previous outings this year.
Knights on the other hand had 41 touches and by all accounts (I didn't see the game) was very good. Wouldn't be surprised if he came in for someone, but who?
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Lids said Vlastuin isn't far away from debuting. Make of that what you will.
I'd be surprised if he came in this week, was down on form compared to his previous outings this year.
Knights on the other hand had 41 touches and by all accounts (I didn't see the game) was very good. Wouldn't be surprised if he came in for someone, but who?
grigg jackson or newman
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Grigg probably the worst out of them all.
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No changes
Richmond squad for Round 3, 2013
B: Morris, Rance, Chaplin
HB: Grimes, Petterd, Houli
C: Newman, Cotchin, Conca
HF: Deledio, S. Edwards, Jackson
F: McGuane, Riewoldt, Vickery
R: Maric, Martin, Tuck
IC from: Ellis, King, Grigg, Batchelor
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-12/tiger-young-gun-named-in-squad
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Looks like the club is keeping "the weapon" Knights for the pies game.
Top stuff by the club to keep him under wraps for the big game where he can be unleashed and take the pies by complete suprise. They won't know what hit them. :clapping
.....Secret weapon is Knights. :shh
But you didn't here it from me. :whistle
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Looks like the club is keeping "the weapon" Knights for the pies game.
Top stuff by the club to keep him under wraps for the big game where he can be unleashed and take the pies by complete suprise. They won't know what hit them. :clapping
.....Secret weapon is Knights. :shh
But you didn't here it from me. :whistle
When Grigg or Batchelor stuff up vs the dogs they'll be straight out for the big Knightsey :clapping
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Tough to see who would have been dropped... The only ones in my mind who could be in real danger are Ellis ( possibly just to get some confidence in the VLF ) and maybe Grigg or Houli.
I just cant see either Grigg or Houli being dropped though, the coach loves them too much but I think it would be best for them if they went back to coburg and played some hard footy, got some form and returned to the side if deserved.
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I'm a bit bemused at why so many think Ellis is likely to be dropped. He had an excellent pre-season, good NAB Cup form, played poorly in the first match and then played very well in his short stint as a sub last week. Why would they be looking to drop our best first year player from last season after an excellent start to this year but for one poor match? :huh
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I'm a bit bemused at why so many think Ellis is likely to be dropped. He had an excellent pre-season, good NAB Cup form, played poorly in the first match and then played very well in his short stint as a sub last week. Why would they be looking to drop our best first year player from last season after an excellent start to this year but for one poor match? :huh
I just think it would be good for him to go back to Coburg and get some confidence up, he didn't look very confident in the StKilda game. Just my opinion.
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I'm a bit bemused at why so many think Ellis is likely to be dropped. He had an excellent pre-season, good NAB Cup form, played poorly in the first match and then played very well in his short stint as a sub last week. Why would they be looking to drop our best first year player from last season after an excellent start to this year but for one poor match? :huh
He is already starting to remind me of White a bit, he is not there at all for mine, being he sub says it all really. Would rather see Val in instead, I think he would offer us more. Pre season, NAB and last season have nothing to do with this season or the season proper.
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I can't remember a time when there was this much competition for selection.
Val, Knights and co might have to wait until we lose a game before they are given a go.
In the mean time every player in the current 22 knows they are on notice to perform.
Strange and exciting times for the tiger faithful .
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I'm concerned we are too short down back. The whole point of putting Griffiths down there was to have a tall to take the opposition talls. Sure he had a poor game round 1 but his kicking over zones is also something that is very useful. Dropping a guy after one game is tough! Does nothing for confidence!
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I'm concerned we are too short down back. The whole point of putting Griffiths down there was to have a tall to take the opposition talls. Sure he had a poor game round 1 but his kicking over zones is also something that is very useful. Dropping a guy after one game is tough! Does nothing for confidence!
I think he was mainly dropped because StKilda dont really have any talls.
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I'm a bit bemused at why so many think Ellis is likely to be dropped. He had an excellent pre-season, good NAB Cup form, played poorly in the first match and then played very well in his short stint as a sub last week. Why would they be looking to drop our best first year player from last season after an excellent start to this year but for one poor match? :huh
He is already starting to remind me of White a bit, he is not there at all for mine, being he sub says it all really.
:huh
In his first season Ellis averaged 15.7 disposals (White averages 12.2), 3.6 marks (White 3.5), 1.6 tackles (White 3.2), 1.4 rebounds (White 1.0), 1.3 inside 50's (White 2.4), 1.7 clangers (White 1.7), 0.7 clearances (White 1.2), 1.3 1%'ers (White 1.9).
- Ellis has had 20 or more disposals in 4 out of his 23 games, White has had 5 in his 89.
- Ellis received a Rising Sun nomination in his first season, White never has.
- Ellis is taller, heavier, fitter and faster.
- Ellis has played almost solely as a defender, White as a mid/forward for most of his career.
How you get a similarity between the 2 is beyond me. When Ellis moves to the midfield as his development grows then his stats and value to the team will increase exponentially. In my opinion he will have 10 times the career White has.
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I'm concerned we are too short down back. The whole point of putting Griffiths down there was to have a tall to take the opposition talls. Sure he had a poor game round 1 but his kicking over zones is also something that is very useful. Dropping a guy after one game is tough! Does nothing for confidence!
I think he was mainly dropped because StKilda dont really have any talls.
Who is going to take Ayce Cordy?
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unfortunately Griffs main problem at the minute is finding the pill,even last week in the magoos i didnt think he found it often enough to warrant a re call.
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I'm a bit bemused at why so many think Ellis is likely to be dropped. He had an excellent pre-season, good NAB Cup form, played poorly in the first match and then played very well in his short stint as a sub last week. Why would they be looking to drop our best first year player from last season after an excellent start to this year but for one poor match? :huh
He is already starting to remind me of White a bit, he is not there at all for mine, being he sub says it all really.
:huh
In his first season Ellis averaged 15.7 disposals (White averages 12.2), 3.6 marks (White 3.5), 1.6 tackles (White 3.2), 1.4 rebounds (White 1.0), 1.3 inside 50's (White 2.4), 1.7 clangers (White 1.7), 0.7 clearances (White 1.2), 1.3 1%'ers (White 1.9).
- Ellis has had 20 or more disposals in 4 out of his 23 games, White has had 5 in his 89.
- Ellis received a Rising Sun nomination in his first season, White never has.
- Ellis is taller, heavier, fitter and faster.
- Ellis has played almost solely as a defender, White as a mid/forward for most of his career.
How you get a similarity between the 2 is beyond me. When Ellis moves to the midfield as his development grows then his stats and value to the team will increase exponentially. In my opinion he will have 10 times the career White has.
Don't compare stats, that's not what I mean, I am talking about the way they play and their positions and the impact thy have on the game....now look at it again, is it still beyond you?
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Don't compare stats, that's not what I mean, I am talking about the way they play and their positions and the impact thy have on the game....now look at it again, is it still beyond you?
Sure is. White has never played a defensive role, always played mid/forward in a see ball, get ball mode while Ellis has never played an attacking one, always played back in a rebounding, link up role. White has played 89 games and hasn't improved in his past 50 while Ellis has played 23 games and has consistently and significantly improved in that short time. Now, you look again and tell me how the hell you can compare them.
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Don't compare stats, that's not what I mean, I am talking about the way they play and their positions and the impact thy have on the game....now look at it again, is it still beyond you?
Sure is. White has never played a defensive role, always played mid/forward in a see ball, get ball mode while Ellis has never played an attacking one, always played back in a rebounding, link up role. White has played 89 games and hasn't improved in his past 50 while Ellis has played 23 games and has consistently and significantly improved in that short time. Now, you look again and tell me how the hell you can compare them.
If Ellis goes out Val, Knights or White could play his role, all the same. I expected more out of Ellis, being the sub doesn't show me that he has improved "significantly" if anything he has gone backwards.
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Don't compare stats, that's not what I mean, I am talking about the way they play and their positions and the impact thy have on the game....now look at it again, is it still beyond you?
Sure is. White has never played a defensive role, always played mid/forward in a see ball, get ball mode while Ellis has never played an attacking one, always played back in a rebounding, link up role. White has played 89 games and hasn't improved in his past 50 while Ellis has played 23 games and has consistently and significantly improved in that short time. Now, you look again and tell me how the hell you can compare them.
If Ellis goes out Val, Knights or White could play his role, all the same. I expected more out of Ellis, being the sub doesn't show me that he has improved "significantly" if anything he has gone backwards.
The whole team is playing better. When that happens, even if you improve, you may not force your way into the team.
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I'm a bit bemused at why so many think Ellis is likely to be dropped. He had an excellent pre-season, good NAB Cup form, played poorly in the first match and then played very well in his short stint as a sub last week. Why would they be looking to drop our best first year player from last season after an excellent start to this year but for one poor match? :huh
IMO training in pre-season = wgaf. I could train my heart out and be one of the better trainers but if I was out there on the field I wouldn't get a touch and didn't he have a stinker in the aboriginal match? I also thought his NAB cup was poor from what I saw which granted wasn't all of it. Agree he played the sub role great so deserves another chance.
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I'm a bit bemused at why so many think Ellis is likely to be dropped. He had an excellent pre-season, good NAB Cup form, played poorly in the first match and then played very well in his short stint as a sub last week. Why would they be looking to drop our best first year player from last season after an excellent start to this year but for one poor match? :huh
He is already starting to remind me of White a bit, he is not there at all for mine, being he sub says it all really. Would rather see Val in instead, I think he would offer us more. Pre season, NAB and last season have nothing to do with this season or the season proper.
If they have nothing to do with season proper, what's your validation for Vlas in?
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I'm concerned we are too short down back. The whole point of putting Griffiths down there was to have a tall to take the opposition talls. Sure he had a poor game round 1 but his kicking over zones is also something that is very useful. Dropping a guy after one game is tough! Does nothing for confidence!
No point having a bloke who can kick over zones when his only disposals are kick ins. Needs to learn to find the ball and spoil
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I'm a bit bemused at why so many think Ellis is likely to be dropped. He had an excellent pre-season, good NAB Cup form, played poorly in the first match and then played very well in his short stint as a sub last week. Why would they be looking to drop our best first year player from last season after an excellent start to this year but for one poor match? :huh
He is already starting to remind me of White a bit, he is not there at all for mine, being he sub says it all really. Would rather see Val in instead, I think he would offer us more. Pre season, NAB and last season have nothing to do with this season or the season proper.
If they have nothing to do with season proper, what's your validation for Vlas in?
He is playing better for Coburg than Ellis has for us, if you want to compare pre seasons Val's was much better than Ellis's....so why is Ellis in?
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If Ellis goes out Val, Knights or White could play his role, all the same.
Rubbish. Knights is a mid/forward - an upgrade on White and plays (has always played) a diametrically opposed role to the one Ellis has played so far in his career. Vlastuin has never played a game of senior AFL. When Vlastuin makes his debut I'm sure he will be put in a similar role to that of Ellis and Conca before him - developing the next generation of mids by teaching them defence and accountability first. But again, how the hell can you realistically and honestly compare Ellis to a mid/forward or a rookie? If you want to make a comparison then at least be fair to Ellis and wait until he is pushed upfield so you are at least in the ballpark of comparing apples to apples. Talk about hanging a kid without a fair trial!!
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I'm a bit bemused at why so many think Ellis is likely to be dropped. He had an excellent pre-season, good NAB Cup form, played poorly in the first match and then played very well in his short stint as a sub last week. Why would they be looking to drop our best first year player from last season after an excellent start to this year but for one poor match? :huh
He is already starting to remind me of White a bit, he is not there at all for mine, being he sub says it all really.
:huh
In his first season Ellis averaged 15.7 disposals (White averages 12.2), 3.6 marks (White 3.5), 1.6 tackles (White 3.2), 1.4 rebounds (White 1.0), 1.3 inside 50's (White 2.4), 1.7 clangers (White 1.7), 0.7 clearances (White 1.2), 1.3 1%'ers (White 1.9).
- Ellis has had 20 or more disposals in 4 out of his 23 games, White has had 5 in his 89.
- Ellis received a Rising Sun nomination in his first season, White never has.
- Ellis is taller, heavier, fitter and faster.
- Ellis has played almost solely as a defender, White as a mid/forward for most of his career.
How you get a similarity between the 2 is beyond me. When Ellis moves to the midfield as his development grows then his stats and value to the team will increase exponentially. In my opinion he will have 10 times the career White has.
Possibly fitter but no chance he is faster and saying his solely a defender? He played in the middle at times and is a HBF, these days they get just about as much ball as midfielders. Proves just there you're playing favourites
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Smokey where do you get the idea that Ellis is faster than White? White would be in the top 2 or 3 fastest players at richmond and in the top five for endurance, and if I had the choice as to who I wanted kicking for goal to win a match I would pick White in a heart beat over Ellis.
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If Ellis goes out Val, Knights or White could play his role, all the same.
Rubbish. Knights is a mid/forward - an upgrade on White and plays (has always played) a diametrically opposed role to the one Ellis has played so far in his career. Vlastuin has never played a game of senior AFL. When Vlastuin makes his debut I'm sure he will be put in a similar role to that of Ellis and Conca before him - developing the next generation of mids by teaching them defence and accountability first. But again, how the hell can you realistically and honestly compare Ellis to a mid/forward or a rookie? If you want to make a comparison then at least be fair to Ellis and wait until he is pushed upfield so you are at least in the ballpark of comparing apples to apples. Talk about hanging a kid without a fair trial!!
Not hanging him so don't over exaggerate and settle down, just think he should be further along than a sub, King is better and many had him as he sub for the opening games...or not in the team. Ellis has pushed up the ground mate, when he is on, all similar players and Ellis needs a game with the burgers IMO because he as shown little...that's my take..
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Smokey where do you get the idea that Ellis is faster than White? White would be in the top 2 or 3 fastest players at richmond and in the top five for endurance, and if I had the choice as to who I wanted kicking for goal to win a match I would pick White in a heart beat over Ellis.
Ellis consistently won the time trials for speed and endurance over the pre-season, beating White and all others. And I would prefer White to be kicking for goal too. Just like I would prefer Ellis to be minding an opposition forward.
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Possibly fitter but no chance he is faster and saying his solely a defender? He played in the middle at times and is a HBF, these days they get just about as much ball as midfielders. Proves just there you're playing favourites
Yep, he's faster. Was beating White in the time trials all summer.
Yep, solely as a defender. Went through the midfield at times in his role as a linkman but played off the halfback line. And whether defenders get as much ball as midfielders nowadays is irrelevant to the argument of comparing White to Ellis. Houli can get more possessions than Tuck but you can't compare them because they play in different field positions with different roles - same for White and Ellis. Houli plays a very similar role to Ellis - do you think he should be compared to White?
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Possibly fitter but no chance he is faster and saying his solely a defender? He played in the middle at times and is a HBF, these days they get just about as much ball as midfielders. Proves just there you're playing favourites
Yep, he's faster. Was beating White in the time trials all summer.
Yep, solely as a defender. Went through the midfield at times in his role as a linkman but played off the halfback line. And whether defenders get as much ball as midfielders nowadays is irrelevant to the argument of comparing White to Ellis. Houli can get more possessions than Tuck but you can't compare them because they play in different field positions with different roles - same for White and Ellis. Houli plays a very similar role to Ellis - do you think he should be compared to White?
Not sure where you got the results but I'll believe it when I see it and happily eat my hat. He started on the wing a few times, that counts as midfield not hbf. The as much ball as midfielders was just something I added on, I agree it was irrelevant :P. I should note I don't agree with the comparison as White is much harder than Ellis. But I just don't agree with the stats you provided.
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Not sure where you got the results but I'll believe it when I see it and happily eat my hat.
"Burning: Second-year Tiger Brandon Ellis is tearing up the training track with multiple victories in time trials"
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2012-12-28/preseason-guide-richmond (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2012-12-28/preseason-guide-richmond)
"Brandon Ellis was lean and mean, winning Richmond's time trial around Princes Park. "
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/gallery-e6frfkp9-1226518686219?page=2 (http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/gallery-e6frfkp9-1226518686219?page=2)
(Other photos in this gallery showed White and Jackson as participants among many others)
He started on the wing a few times, that counts as midfield not hbf. The as much ball as midfielders was just something I added on, I agree it was irrelevant :P. I should note I don't agree with the comparison as White is much harder than Ellis. But I just don't agree with the stats you provided.
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Yep, you're probably correct with him starting on the wing a few times but his role always seemed to be defensive even when there. And that's why I can't agree with WAT's comparison - White always plays an attacking role in the midfield or half forward line so a totally different beast. I'm not even saying who is better at their individual role but I don't think the comparison was fair. I also know who I'm very confident will develop into the far better player over his career. And that development won't be helped by dropping him back to Coburg after 1 poor game following a good first year and good pre-season. Another 1 or 2 poor games in succession then by all means but not yet.
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The thing is when playing in defense he seemed to be very attacking to me, rather than a tight defensive game. I guess athletically and size they are similar and that's where WAT gets it from.
Your links don't state if any where speed.
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The thing is when playing in defense he seemed to be very attacking to me, rather than a tight defensive game. I guess athletically and size they are similar and that's where WAT gets it from.
Your links don't state if any where speed.
I'm taking the licence that if he's winning the time trials then by nature he is fastest, especially when in previous years it was always White who won them.
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The thing is when playing in defense he seemed to be very attacking to me, rather than a tight defensive game. I guess athletically and size they are similar and that's where WAT gets it from.
Your links don't state if any where speed.
I'm taking the licence that if he's winning the time trials then by nature he is fastest, especially when in previous years it was always White who won them.
Bloody hell smoke, Melbourne were training he house down too mate.. :whistle
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The thing is when playing in defense he seemed to be very attacking to me, rather than a tight defensive game. I guess athletically and size they are similar and that's where WAT gets it from.
Your links don't state if any where speed.
I'm taking the licence that if he's winning the time trials then by nature he is fastest, especially when in previous years it was always White who won them.
Bloody hell smoke, Melbourne were training he house down too mate.. :whistle
Big difference WAT. I'm stating a fact based on available evidence with a tangible outcome; to state Melbourne are "training the house down" is only a subjective opinion that has no definable or measurable proof. We could both watch them train and disagree on how well they trained and there is no way of defining who is right because there is no measurable outcome, while coming first in a time trial is. Bit like your Ellis vs White comparison really.... :whistle
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The thing is when playing in defense he seemed to be very attacking to me, rather than a tight defensive game. I guess athletically and size they are similar and that's where WAT gets it from.
Your links don't state if any where speed.
I'm taking the licence that if he's winning the time trials then by nature he is fastest, especially when in previous years it was always White who won them.
I reckon it depends on your definition of pace - over 100 metres I'd back Whitey but Ellis had a cracking pre season - he deserves his place
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Possibly fitter but no chance he is faster and saying his solely a defender? He played in the middle at times and is a HBF, these days they get just about as much ball as midfielders. Proves just there you're playing favourites
Yep, he's faster. Was beating White in the time trials all summer.
Yep, solely as a defender. Went through the midfield at times in his role as a linkman but played off the halfback line. And whether defenders get as much ball as midfielders nowadays is irrelevant to the argument of comparing White to Ellis. Houli can get more possessions than Tuck but you can't compare them because they play in different field positions with different roles - same for White and Ellis. Houli plays a very similar role to Ellis - do you think he should be compared to White?
Time trials are 3 to 5 km's though smokey, White has got some serious toe for burst speed and would leave most in his dust in a sprint.
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Knights and vlastuin didn't play
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Possibly fitter but no chance he is faster and saying his solely a defender? He played in the middle at times and is a HBF, these days they get just about as much ball as midfielders. Proves just there you're playing favourites
Yep, he's faster. Was beating White in the time trials all summer.
Yep, solely as a defender. Went through the midfield at times in his role as a linkman but played off the halfback line. And whether defenders get as much ball as midfielders nowadays is irrelevant to the argument of comparing White to Ellis. Houli can get more possessions than Tuck but you can't compare them because they play in different field positions with different roles - same for White and Ellis. Houli plays a very similar role to Ellis - do you think he should be compared to White?
Time trials are 3 to 5 km's though smokey, White has got some serious toe for burst speed and would leave most in his dust in a sprint.
Yeah, I know. I was being a bit cheeky with the faster bit! ;D
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unfortunately Griffs main problem at the minute is finding the pill,even last week in the magoos i didnt think he found it often enough to warrant a re call.
Full backs don't always get 20 touches.
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Griff is a forward. If Ty or Jack go down he needs to step up there.
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Griff is a forward. If Ty or Jack go down he needs to step up there.
Yes FFS and when the hell will he bloody play there!!!
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When he can dominate at the burgers and kick a few bags of goals
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Just speaking to a collingwood mate who was assured by a bulldogs supporter that by the end of the round the dogs would be on top of pies this week. FM, im starting to smell an arrogance fro these dogs supporters especially on BF. I think it may be a close game but stuff these homeless people getting cocky about beating us
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When he can dominate at the burgers and kick a few bags of goals
Bit hard from the backline.
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He's a big kick
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He's a big kick
:lol.....pay that one!
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Are we any closer on knowing our final side with knights and Vlastuin in or not?
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Are we any closer on knowing our final side with knights and Vlastuin in or not?
Nah
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Are we any closer on knowing our final side with knights and Vlastuin in or not?
Nah
Ahh OK can you make something up then involving rumour and scuttlebutt?
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Are we any closer on knowing our final side with knights and Vlastuin in or not?
Nah
Ahh OK can you make something up then involving rumour and scuttlebutt?
Heard Cotchin and Deledio out for Knights and Vlasten
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Are we any closer on knowing our final side with knights and Vlastuin in or not?
Nah
Ahh OK can you make something up then involving rumour and scuttlebutt?
Heard Cotchin and Deledio out for Knights and Vlasten
:rollin :rollin
Is this is another of your "official" posts ala what you posted as our M'ship number after easter? ::)
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Are we any closer on knowing our final side with knights and Vlastuin in or not?
Nah
Ahh OK can you make something up then involving rumour and scuttlebutt?
Heard Cotchin and Deledio out for Knights and Vlasten
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Is this is another of your "official" posts ala what you posted as our M'ship number after easter? ::)
:rollin :lol
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Possibly fitter but no chance he is faster and saying his solely a defender? He played in the middle at times and is a HBF, these days they get just about as much ball as midfielders. Proves just there you're playing favourites
Yep, he's faster. Was beating White in the time trials all summer.
Yep, solely as a defender. Went through the midfield at times in his role as a linkman but played off the halfback line. And whether defenders get as much ball as midfielders nowadays is irrelevant to the argument of comparing White to Ellis. Houli can get more possessions than Tuck but you can't compare them because they play in different field positions with different roles - same for White and Ellis. Houli plays a very similar role to Ellis - do you think he should be compared to White?
Time trials are 3 to 5 km's though smokey, White has got some serious toe for burst speed and would leave most in his dust in a sprint.
Yeah, I know. I was being a bit cheeky with the faster bit! ;D
Reeled me in :lol
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If Ellis goes out Val, Knights or White could play his role, all the same.
Rubbish. Knights is a mid/forward - an upgrade on White and plays (has always played) a diametrically opposed role to the one Ellis has played so far in his career. Vlastuin has never played a game of senior AFL. When Vlastuin makes his debut I'm sure he will be put in a similar role to that of Ellis and Conca before him - developing the next generation of mids by teaching them defence and accountability first. But again, how the hell can you realistically and honestly compare Ellis to a mid/forward or a rookie? If you want to make a comparison then at least be fair to Ellis and wait until he is pushed upfield so you are at least in the ballpark of comparing apples to apples. Talk about hanging a kid without a fair trial!!
Funny how Knights was subbed for Ellis and they played the same role....... :whistle
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Probably explains why he didn't have any impact either, seeing that he has been playing a completely different role thus far in his career. :banghead
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Probably explains why he didn't have any impact either, seeing that he has been playing a completely different role thus far in his career. :banghead
So what! Should be able to play where they put him, point is he is in the same boat as Knights, Val and White! He will be out next week.
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Probably explains why he didn't have any impact either, seeing that he has been playing a completely different role thus far in his career. :banghead
"If Ellis goes out Val, Knights or White could play his role, all the same."
Turns out Knights couldn't play Ellis' role and vice versa. Thats all. Pretty much what I said and you keep trying to deny and divert.
So what! Should be able to play where they put him, point is he is in the same boat as Knights, Val and White! He will be out next week.
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So based on that premise Maric should be able to play full back and Jack should be able to rove? What a load of claptrap! And yes, I would expect Ellis to be dropped next week because 2 weeks in a row as sub should be the max for any player, but I reckon Knights should hold his spot because I don't think there is a match up for Batchelor again this week. Vlas might get a green jacket.
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Probably explains why he didn't have any impact either, seeing that he has been playing a completely different role thus far in his career. :banghead
"If Ellis goes out Val, Knights or White could play his role, all the same."
Turns out Knights couldn't play Ellis' role and vice versa. Thats all. Pretty much what I said and you keep trying to deny and divert.
So what! Should be able to play where they put him, point is he is in the same boat as Knights, Val and White! He will be out next week.
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So based on that premise Maric should be able to play full back and Jack should be able to rove? What a load of claptrap! And yes, I would expect Ellis to be dropped next week because 2 weeks in a row as sub should be the max for any player, but I reckon Knights should hold his spot because I don't think there is a match up for Batchelor again this week. Vlas might get a green jacket.
Although I get your point I think Jack could make a good rover :shh
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Probably explains why he didn't have any impact either, seeing that he has been playing a completely different role thus far in his career. :banghead
"If Ellis goes out Val, Knights or White could play his role, all the same."
Turns out Knights couldn't play Ellis' role and vice versa. Thats all. Pretty much what I said and you keep trying to deny and divert.
So what! Should be able to play where they put him, point is he is in the same boat as Knights, Val and White! He will be out next week.
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So based on that premise Maric should be able to play full back and Jack should be able to rove? What a load of claptrap! And yes, I would expect Ellis to be dropped next week because 2 weeks in a row as sub should be the max for any player, but I reckon Knights should hold his spot because I don't think there is a match up for Batchelor again this week. Vlas might get a green jacket.
Although I get your point I think Jack could make a good rover :shh
Not saying I like him or anything like that......but I agree