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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 24, 2013, 11:48:02 AM
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Jon Anderson from the Herald-Sun reckons we should go after Paul Chapman.
The Tigers need small forwards and an extra hard-nut around the stoppages. The Tigers won't have to give anything up for him. So where’s the problem?
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-champ-paul-chapman-may-be-forced-out-as-cats-assess-ageing-list/story-fndv8haf-1226725467364
Thoughts?
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Would be handy but not long-term.
Would love to see him in the yellow and black but we would be better off with a younger investment.
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NO too injury prone at the end of his career. Blood our own players who can be around for 200 games.
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no. need a long term solution.
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I think he'd be asking for more than we could pay him.
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I wouldn't mind him. Would be great if some of his experience, mongrel and being able to stand up in clutch moments could rub off. Could also teach the next lot like McDonough a thing or two about the position and the role and be ready to step up in 2015.
Coming from Geelong he might not be on or demand massive coin. If we have a bit to spare and don't get any other target it might not hurt for just a season.
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Think I would rather blood McDonough.
Guys obviously been reading the forum :lol
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Yes
We are in a premiership window so yes yes yes. One of him could be the difference in making a GF
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If he was so smart & experienced he wouldn't have cost Geelong the game against Hawthorn by getting himself reported for a meaningless bump
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Do you post as Mr Magic on bigfooty?
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I don't think we're in the premiership window. I think that window will open in 2016.
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I don't think we're in the premiership window. I think that window will open in 2016.
Rubbish. Hawks won in 2008 after finishing 5th in 2007 with 13 wins (we have 15). Cats won in 2007 after missing the finals in 2006
We are in a premiership window as of 2014
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I don't think we're in the premiership window. I think that window will open in 2016.
Rubbish. Hawks won in 2008 after finishing 5th in 2007 with 13 wins (we have 15). Cats won in 2007 after missing the finals in 2006
We are in a premiership window as of 2014
Yyyyyyeeeesssss :clapping
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I don't think we're in the premiership window. I think that window will open in 2016.
Rubbish. Hawks won in 2008 after finishing 5th in 2007 with 13 wins (we have 15). Cats won in 2007 after missing the finals in 2006
We are in a premiership window as of 2014
Yyyyyyeeeesssss :clapping
:clapping
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Lol
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Can anyone remember when we recruited Paul Hudson ?
Did not turn out well.
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Can anyone remember when we recruited Paul Hudson ?
Did not turn out well.
One's a gun and the other is ordinary. Good comparison!
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Can anyone remember when we recruited Paul Hudson ?
Did not turn out well.
yes it was after we played in the 2001 finals and the powers that be at the time thought we were a couple of players away from a flag
So they trade in Hudson, gave him number 17 and the rest is debacle history
Paul Hudson getting given number 17 was a major reason the Club came up with the idea making 17 the "Captain's Number". There was incredible anger at the club that this bloke (Hudson) could be given the most revered number at Tigerland. Board listened to a lot of complaints, came up with an idea that at the time had the support (huge support) of the majority of the membership base and ....
I'll leave it at that ;D
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Can anyone remember when we recruited Paul Hudson ?
Did not turn out well.
yes it was after we played in the 2001 finals and the powers that be at the time thought we were a couple of players away from a flag
So they trade in Hudson, gave him number 17 and the rest is debacle history
Paul Hudson getting given number 17 was a major reason the Club came up with the idea making 17 the "Captain's Number". There was incredible anger at the club that this bloke (Hudson) could be given the most revered number at Tigerland. Board listened to a lot of complaints, came up with an idea that at the time had the support (huge support) of the majority of the membership base and ....
I'll leave it at that ;D
You leave us with no idea in what you think we should do with the number 17 jumper WP! :whistle
Edited to correct quote
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so the consensus is to trade in paul chapman and give him the number 17? :clapping
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so the consensus is to trade in paul chapman and give him the number 17? :clapping
No number 17 will go to Nick Vlaustin in 2014 ;D
You leave us with no idea in what you think we should do with the number 17 jumper WP! :whistle
Edited to correct quote
At least I'm consistent on the issue unlike our Board who folded like a pack of cards on the issue, showed a true lack of leadership and let the tail wag the dog ;D
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No number 17 will go to Nick Vlaustin in 2014 ;D
Was that...
No number 17 will go to Nick Vlaustin in 2014 ;D
or
No, number 17 will go to Nick Vlaustin in 2014 ;D
Amazing what a difference a comma makes.
:lol
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STFU Donnie
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Can anyone remember when we recruited Paul Hudson ?
Did not turn out well.
yes it was after we played in the 2001 finals and the powers that be at the time thought we were a couple of players away from a flag
So they trade in Hudson, gave him number 17 and the rest is debacle history
Paul Hudson getting given number 17 was a major reason the Club came up with the idea making 17 the "Captain's Number". There was incredible anger at the club that this bloke (Hudson) could be given the most revered number at Tigerland. Board listened to a lot of complaints, came up with an idea that at the time had the support (huge support) of the majority of the membership base and ....
I'll leave it at that ;D
I think he only kicked one goal for the club.
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Do you post as Mr Magic on bigfooty?
Are you asking me this question Gerks. If so the answer is No. l only post on this forum & don't use any other forum or read them. l get enough laughs here :)
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No number 17 will go to Nick Vlaustin in 2014 ;D
Was that...
No number 17 will go to Nick Vlaustin in 2014 ;D
or
No, number 17 will go to Nick Vlaustin in 2014 ;D
Amazing what a difference a comma makes.
:lol
Let's eat grandma!
Let's eat, grandma!
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No number 17 will go to Nick Vlaustin in 2014 ;D
Was that...
No number 17 will go to Nick Vlaustin in 2014 ;D
or
No, number 17 will go to Nick Vlaustin in 2014 ;D
Amazing what a difference a comma makes.
:lol
Let's eat grandma!
Let's eat, grandma!
Let's eat out grandma!
Let's eat out, grandma!
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:lol :chuck :lol
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:lol :chuck :lol
You're welcome :thumbsup
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Can anyone remember when we recruited Paul Hudson ?
Did not turn out well.
yes it was after we played in the 2001 finals and the powers that be at the time thought we were a couple of players away from a flag
So they trade in Hudson, gave him number 17 and the rest is debacle history
Paul Hudson getting given number 17 was a major reason the Club came up with the idea making 17 the "Captain's Number". There was incredible anger at the club that this bloke (Hudson) could be given the most revered number at Tigerland. Board listened to a lot of complaints, came up with an idea that at the time had the support (huge support) of the majority of the membership base and ....
I'll leave it at that ;D
I think he only kicked one goal for the club.
Would have him at the club in a coaching role.
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Would love him at tigerland for 2 years.
His presence and professionalism isn't something you can buy readily.
Would be a huge positive influence on the youngsters......
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Think I would rather blood McDonough.
Agreed
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BREAKING
There is news emerging that Paul Chapman will not be offered a new deal by the Geelong Football Club, and as such Collingwood, GWS and Richmond have made direct contact with Chapman's management and will make a play for the three-time premiership player next week.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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I'll just ask a couple of questions and people can answer how they choose.
Does everybody or most agree that Azza and McGuane on the list now just make us competitive until McBean demands a senior gig week in week out with Azza and McGuane just being foot soldiers at best?
Chapman feels he has something to offer, Geelong think its time to turn over their list and introduce more youth now and avoid bottoming out something they have done successfully for about 40 years and avoiding the bottom 3. With Nahas nowhere, King struggling and neither of those boys being played in the midfield with any degree of success would Chapman if he comes cheap be worth it given he is a 3 times premiership player and could bring added leadership? As long as we don't give up early picks and can trade players for them then why not. I think it may benefit us and improve the whole list not just on the field but above the shoulders as well. Just a thought guys. :thumbsup
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We should get him (if he comes cheap) and hopefully when he does retire in 1-2 years we have a ready made replacement in McDonough. Would offer a wealth of guidance to the team as well off field as well as being able to contribute on field (when he isn't injured).
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I'll just ask a couple of questions and people can answer how they choose.
Thanks Don, mightily neighbourly of ya!
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I'll just ask a couple of questions and people can answer how they choose.
Thanks Don, mightily neighbourly of ya!
No worries Smokey, just being friendly. ;D
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Yes
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Yes
The 'kin has spoken :bow
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yeah why not, may as well employ Dean Robinson The weapon as well. Oh Please. ::)
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I notice you're back on the Tigers after we finished ahead of the Pies mate?
Saw you on tele in Round 23 :shh
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If Geelong do not offer him another contract, he becomes a delisted free agent and can sign with who he pleases? Is he already a free agent?
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I notice you're back on the Tigers after we finished ahead of the Pies mate?
Saw you on tele in Round 23 :shh
l don't barrack for Collinwood, you need your head checked.
Nice you seen me on telly considering l sit in the MCC & not behind the goals with the muppet with yellow hair.
this Collinwood poo is getting old grow the stuff up
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When you last left Monk you said you weren't coming back. Why the backflip?
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When you last left Monk you said you weren't coming back. Why the backflip?
been well over a year before l came back. People come & go all the time. l got a bit of spare time on my hands so guess what. + l find some of the stuff some write in here quite funny. considering many of you have never played footy ;D
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I notice you're back on the Tigers after we finished ahead of the Pies mate?
Saw you on tele in Round 23 :shh
I thought it was Melbourne not the Pies
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If Geelong do not offer him another contract, he becomes a delisted free agent and can sign with who he pleases? Is he already a free agent?
He's a free agent anyway. :shh
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If Geelong do not offer him another contract, he becomes a delisted free agent and can sign with who he pleases? Is he already a free agent?
He's a free agent anyway. :shh
Thought as much, beauty. :thumbsup
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I notice you're back on the Tigers after we finished ahead of the Pies mate?
Saw you on tele in Round 23 :shh
I thought it was Melbourne not the Pies
Silence fool
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If we dont have to sacrifice draft picks for him,I'd be all up for having him around for 1-2 years. His leadership and know-how on tempo footy could be invaluable to the club
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yeah, i like the way chappy plays tempo footy. hit the ball hard hard and move the stuffing thing fast and with precision.
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Would love a pair of chaps.
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As if
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BREAKING
There is news emerging that Paul Chapman will not be offered a new deal by the Geelong Football Club, and as such Collingwood, GWS and Richmond have made direct contact with Chapman's management and will make a play for the three-time premiership player next week.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
fantastic news lets go get him. cut that hack king whos only got a yr left at absolute best and bring in a professional footballer like chappy for a yr or two. enormous upgrde on a battler.
but wait we signed king up for two yrs. bloody hell what were they thinking.below standard players demanding multiple yr contracts seems people want to do the same with matt white.
matt macdonough learning of chappy or learning of king sheesh. ll i can say is we do indeed love our duds at richmond.
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Jake King on a one year contract. Continue ranting. Hate to let facts get in the way.
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The fact Geelong will cut a 'legend' of the club whilst still in a premiership window mode suggests to me that he's body is absolutely shot.
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The fact Geelong will cut a 'legend' of the club whilst still in a premiership window mode suggests to me that he's body is absolutely shot.
:yep
I would actually like us to go after him but only if he's body and kind in a good place otherwise I agree geelong would turf a legend of the club just like that..
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Been thinking about this
Actually can see some huge upside bringing a bloke like Chapman in
Certainly a leader but also a terrific team mate could teach the kids a lot especially having been at Geelong which we all know is a great club
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Been thinking about this
Actually can see some huge upside bringing a bloke like Chapman in
Certainly a leader but also a terrific team mate could teach the kids a lot especially having been at Geelong which we all know is a great club
Exactly what I said WP. :laugh:
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DB on the sunday footy show said Geelong only offered him 10 games next year which he rejected.
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Been thinking about this
Actually can see some huge upside bringing a bloke like Chapman in
Certainly a leader but also a terrific team mate could teach the kids a lot especially having been at Geelong which we all know is a great club
Yeh but we prefer Port, Adelaide and Melbourne, so we might need him to go there for a year first. :shh
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Jake King on a one year contract. Continue ranting. Hate to let facts get in the way.
oh boo hoo. we did sign him mid yr why not wait till the end of this season before offering anything.we did the same with newman as well.even if we wanted to tap them on the shoulder and suggest they retire we cant.
if keeping these two is the difference between being able to keep martin and have a real shot at adams or longer then i will spew.
id love chapman at the club but can we justify him and white king and nahas. simple fact is we could do away with the others and just keep chappy for two yrs while macdonough develops.an enormous upgrade on those hacks yet we probably wont even look at chapman and keep both white and king.
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Jake King on a one year contract. Continue ranting. Hate to let facts get in the way.
oh boo hoo. we did sign him mid yr why not wait till the end of this season before offering anything.we did the same with newman as well.even if we wanted to tap them on the shoulder and suggest they retire we cant.
if keeping these two is the difference between being able to keep martin and have a real shot at adams or longer then i will spew.
id love chapman at the club but can we justify him and white king and nahas. simple fact is we could do away with the others and just keep chappy for two yrs while macdonough develops.an enormous upgrade on those hacks yet we probably wont even look at chapman and keep both white and king.
Nahas is gone. King & Newman had good years apart from injury.
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You are kidding Monk.
Newman is finished, should have been pushed out if we had any balls.
Provides absolutely nothing
King 1 year only. The rest of those types are for the tip
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You are kidding Monk.
Newman is finished, should have been pushed out if we had any balls.
Provides absolutely nothing
King 1 year only. The rest of those types are for the tip
Well Newman did seem to miss a lot of easy shots on goal. Maybe he should be on the chopping block with McGuane, Nahas, Helbig, ;D He may retire yet.
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If Paul Chapman can fire up his team mates to dominate the Hawks for 4 years, who knows what he can do to get the Tigers over the Blues and kangaroos?
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Newman is finished
Yet king is not?
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You are kidding Monk.
Newman is finished, should have been pushed out if we had any balls.
Provides absolutely nothing
King 1 year only. The rest of those types are for the tip
spot on, Newman is finished
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Carn Chappy :pray
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Rat boy was 'reporting' today that RFC 'are showing some serious interest' in Chapman :pray
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Wish he'd stop reading our forum.
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Wish he'd stop reading our forum.
Got get his stuff from somewhere reputable ;D
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like
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Whoever gets Chapman would only be budgeting for 30 games out of him over 2 years with fingers crossed that a few of those are finals.
If Dusty can get $500k without having achieved anything, what will a triple premiership, 2 x AA and norm smith medallist cost?
$700k for 1?
$1.3m over 2?
Would you pay it?
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His body is shot
I love chappy but surely cannot give him big bucks...
That said if we are willing to give the like of mcgaune and grigg ridiculous contract I'd rather it done for a quality player
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He won't be worth anything near that, and he's surely not getting paid that much over his last few years.
Would be cheap you'd think given his age.
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There is age and bad hammies counting against him.
On the plus side there are a few clubs interested, he has some big time AFL bling and it's a seller's market.
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Does he want to go into coaching post footy career bc if so and he gets injured and its long term it may be prudent of us to put him in as an assistant. His skills, knowledge and leadership can only help our still developing squad.
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Give him a year! If he keeps King out of the side for 12 months its a win for us ;)
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Fair call
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Give him a year with a 2nd year trigger if he plays 18+ games.
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Give him 3 years but basically option him as a player for years 2&3.
If the club doesn't think he can fulfil years 2&3 then exercise the option that triggers him to be a development coach.
Same pay but for different roles at the club.
Gives Chappy some medium term security job wise and gives us flex to use him where he can make the biggest contribution
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The bombers want him so bad. If we show any interest he will come to us for 50k less than what is being tabled up at the bummers. Absolute rabble that club.
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If Geelong do not offer him another contract, he becomes a delisted free agent and can sign with who he pleases? Is he already a free agent?
While Chappy is a free agent we must get Geelong to do a trade for a very late pick, like they did with King and Playfair and we did with Morton.
Otherwise we stand to lose the compensation pick for White.
Compensation picks are only granted on the basis of losing out on balance of incoming and outgoing free agents.
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good point.
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If Geelong do not offer him another contract, he becomes a delisted free agent and can sign with who he pleases? Is he already a free agent?
While Chappy is a free agent we must get Geelong to do a trade for a very late pick, like they did with King and Playfair and we did with Morton.
Otherwise we stand to lose the compensation pick for White.
Compensation picks are only granted on the basis of losing out on balance of incoming and outgoing free agents.
Does that still apply if they de-list him?
De-listed players automatically become unrestricted free agents :-\
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The Geelong board on bf is saying that he's finished at Geelong after their offer was meh and Richmond offered him something much much better.
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Worth the gamble for sure, quality
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Worth the gamble for sure, quality
Plus he will turn Mcdonahugh into a mini Chappy
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will probably win our B&F and goal kicking from only 15 games
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If Geelong do not offer him another contract, he becomes a delisted free agent and can sign with who he pleases? Is he already a free agent?
While Chappy is a free agent we must get Geelong to do a trade for a very late pick, like they did with King and Playfair and we did with Morton.
Otherwise we stand to lose the compensation pick for White.
Compensation picks are only granted on the basis of losing out on balance of incoming and outgoing free agents.
Does that still apply if they de-list him?
De-listed players automatically become unrestricted free agents :-\
Nope.
On reading the rules, clubs do not get compensation picks for delisted free agents.
Presumably this also means there is no balancing of free agents.
Not listed as delisted yet.
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Richmond has been repeatedly linked to Chapman, although it is believed the Tigers have shown only lukewarm interest in him.
For his part, Pickering is refusing to reveal which clubs have the three-time premiership player in their sights.
"I've got a couple that I've been talking to," he said. "So he'll find a home, he's too good a footballer (not to).
"I'm just not sure it will be at the Cats, unfortunately."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-03/chapman-set-to-play-on-in-different-colours
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Essendon front runners and they're confident they have him
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Essendon front runners and they're confident they have him
The only way they'll get him is if they throw ridiculous coin at him. Nobody wants to go there right now
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Essendon front runners and they're confident they have him
The only way they'll get him is if they throw ridiculous coin at him. Nobody wants to go there right now
At the end of his career he'll take what he can get. If Essendon or anybody throw ridiculous money at him I reckon he'll take it. He's a 3 times premiership player if he plays 35-40 games over two seasons on good coin even in a plodding side he's still climbed the mountain 3 times and prolonged his . If he ends up at a club topping up and is lucky enough to add another premiership medallion then even better. $$$$$$$ and security when you are 31 and you are in your footy twilight. :thumbsup
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Lol Essendrug don't even have a coach
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Essendon front runners and they're confident they have him
They were confident they hadn't cheated. Look how that worked out for them. :shh
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Essendon front runners and they're confident they have him
They were confident they hadn't cheated. Look how that worked out for them. :shh
Haha good one
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Martin and Chapman in the Peptide FC line up :shh
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Essendon front runners and they're confident they have him
The only way they'll get him is if they throw ridiculous coin at him. Nobody wants to go there right now
At the end of his career he'll take what he can get. If Essendon or anybody throw ridiculous money at him I reckon he'll take it. He's a 3 times premiership player if he plays 35-40 games over two seasons on good coin even in a plodding side he's still climbed the mountain 3 times and prolonged his . If he ends up at a club topping up and is lucky enough to add another premiership medallion then even better. $$$$$$$ and security when you are 31 and you are in your footy twilight. :thumbsup
Maybe Essendrugs can inject him in his scalp so that he can grow his hair back
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The chequebook Bombers cowbrand another one.
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Thinking more about it he would/could be an asset. Centre relief and small forward option, worth a shot I think.
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Thinking more about it he would/could be an asset. Centre relief and small forward option, worth a shot I think.
Blood oath!! Imagine Chappy in the forward pocket....... I'd like to see that!
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Thinking more about it he would/could be an asset. Centre relief and small forward option, worth a shot I think.
Blood oath!! Imagine Chappy in the forward pocket....... I'd like to see that!
:thumbsup, would certainly create a massive diversion down there when the ball came in if nothing else.
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Was just thinking about Chappy's reaction to a Jack dummy spit. :laugh:
Might be worth getting him just for that effect.
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Can we have Bartel too
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More I think about it the more I think we shouldn't take Chapman.
For all the reasons people suggest taking a 31 year old on but also for the fact that we get a player that, in the media's eyes, will become bigger than the club for certain fixtures.
Chapman vs Geelong for a start will be a circus. Chapman vs Hawthorn will also be brought up with the whole idea of Chapman pushing the 'Kennett Curse' stuff. For a guy who won't play many games for the club do we really want this 'irrelevant' attention?
We are Richmond, not the club that Paul Chapman plays for vs Geelong. The Geelong people are furious that a 'Geelong Legend' isn't staying and have said they'll follow his career where ever he goes. Chapman will always be Geelong.
I hated the whole Ben Cousins saga, as much as I wanted him to come and help the kids, Cousins vs Judd. Cousins vs West Coast. Cousins vs Sydney. I just didn't like a players personal battles being bigger than the club. I fear Chapman coming will cause a similar effect. Seeing as he won't be around for a long time I'm leaning towards passing on Chapman.
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Chapman has attracted the interest of powerhouse trio Richmond, Carlton and Essendon.
The Tigers are understood to be the most keen, but such is their salary cap squeeze, Chapman would have to accept less money to move to Punt Rd. It’s believed Chapman was on significant money by Geelong standards.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-looms-large-as-a-possible-suitor-for-greater-western-sydney-midfielder-taylor-adams/story-fndv8lf1-1226733189906
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Would love Chappy - inspired choice by the club - again journos writing about our salary cap squeeze - is just horse pooh. Why wrote crap?
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How the stuff can we have a "salary cap squeeze" when the likes of Sydney, Carlton and the Pies have lists choc a block full of overpaid players and they are getting more??
It bemuses me....
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Hot the stuff can we have a "salary cap squeeze" when the likes of Sydney, Carlton and the Pies have lists choc a block full of overpaid players and they are getting more??
It bemuses me....
CC
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How the stuff can we have a "salary cap squeeze" when the likes of Sydney, Carlton and the Pies have lists choc a block full of overpaid players and they are getting more??
It bemuses me....
As someone mentioned in another thread, all teams have to pay a minimum 95% of the salary cap regardless, the difference between paying 95 and 100 is roughly 500k, not much in a list of 40 players plus rookies. Very even playing field. Pretty ridiculous rule. Im actually thinking its harder to transform your list getting overpaid average players to take significant pay cuts as the team improves and some stars start developing.
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TM, as the Cats are now showing - smart trading and make hard decisions on de listing will free up the cap - if you are at 100% and remove J Pod, Chappy, Hunt and trade Varcoe, I'd imagine you free up $1m+ and collect yourself a 1st or 2nd round draft pick which goes into picking up Adams from GWS.
If we can just get our list into that next level of performance and be known as a Top 4 team we too might be able to play some of the cards.....
I just hope we are ruthless enough to make those hard calls - Newman probably doesn't deserve anoth year - had we been able to retire him Tuck, McGuane to Brisbane and Matt White to Power - you would think that frees up at least $1m in salary cap space...
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Newy must be punching himself he got another year
He has been useless for 2 yrs now
Is he not on the vet list?
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Lol, salary cap squeeze. Chappy would have to accept less because he is an injury prone 31 year old.
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TM, as the Cats are now showing - smart trading and make hard decisions on de listing will free up the cap - if you are at 100% and remove J Pod, Chappy, Hunt and trade Varcoe, I'd imagine you free up $1m+ and collect yourself a 1st or 2nd round draft pick which goes into picking up Adams from GWS.
If we can just get our list into that next level of performance and be known as a Top 4 team we too might be able to play some of the cards.....
I just hope we are ruthless enough to make those hard calls - Newman probably doesn't deserve anoth year - had we been able to retire him Tuck, McGuane to Brisbane and Matt White to Power - you would think that frees up at least $1m in salary cap space...
It probably does free up close to a million for us but with just 5 new kids we loose well ov half of that straight up and that's without bringing in anyone with experience ::)
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TM, as the Cats are now showing - smart trading and make hard decisions on de listing will free up the cap - if you are at 100% and remove J Pod, Chappy, Hunt and trade Varcoe, I'd imagine you free up $1m+ and collect yourself a 1st or 2nd round draft pick which goes into picking up Adams from GWS.
If we can just get our list into that next level of performance and be known as a Top 4 team we too might be able to play some of the cards.....
I just hope we are ruthless enough to make those hard calls - Newman probably doesn't deserve anoth year - had we been able to retire him Tuck, McGuane to Brisbane and Matt White to Power - you would think that frees up at least $1m in salary cap space...
agree with all of that yab and tbh I have doubts we can make the really hard brutal calls
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More I think about it the more I think we shouldn't take Chapman.
For all the reasons people suggest taking a 31 year old on but also for the fact that we get a player that, in the media's eyes, will become bigger than the club for certain fixtures.
Chapman vs Geelong for a start will be a circus. Chapman vs Hawthorn will also be brought up with the whole idea of Chapman pushing the 'Kennett Curse' stuff. For a guy who won't play many games for the club do we really want this 'irrelevant' attention?
We are Richmond, not the club that Paul Chapman plays for vs Geelong. The Geelong people are furious that a 'Geelong Legend' isn't staying and have said they'll follow his career where ever he goes. Chapman will always be Geelong.
I hated the whole Ben Cousins saga, as much as I wanted him to come and help the kids, Cousins vs Judd. Cousins vs West Coast. Cousins vs Sydney. I just didn't like a players personal battles being bigger than the club. I fear Chapman coming will cause a similar effect. Seeing as he won't be around for a long time I'm leaning towards passing on Chapman.
Lol who gives a poo. It's about winning.If it's not Chapman vs Geelong it will just be some other circus like Hampson vs Carlton in the VFL this week. :banghead
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Ive changed my mind on Chapman. At the start this seemed like a good choice but he isnt the right fit for us in terms of age and injury profile. Not worth the money to pay him what he will want. The club should save the salary cap space and list space and try and get a younger player, preferably another forward. Wasting money on Hampson and Chapman is not the right way.
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Too old, too injured, too much.
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Guys hes had 1 injury interrupted season that I can remember, came back too early from a hammy and that stuffed him, prior to that hes been very durable. At the right price this guy is a must, his character and drive will be invaluable to our stable of players who lets face it don't have a clue what real pressure and commitment is
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l'm sure we will secure Chapman but just waiting for it to be confirmed :thumbsup
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l'm sure we will secure Chapman but just waiting for it to be confirmed :thumbsup
How and why are you so sure? Spoken to someone at the club?
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l'm sure we will secure Chapman but just waiting for it to be confirmed :thumbsup
How and why are you so sure? Spoken to someone at the club?
Spoken to someone who is at Geelong ;D
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More I think about it the more I think we shouldn't take Chapman.
For all the reasons people suggest taking a 31 year old on but also for the fact that we get a player that, in the media's eyes, will become bigger than the club for certain fixtures.
Chapman vs Geelong for a start will be a circus. Chapman vs Hawthorn will also be brought up with the whole idea of Chapman pushing the 'Kennett Curse' stuff. For a guy who won't play many games for the club do we really want this 'irrelevant' attention?
We are Richmond, not the club that Paul Chapman plays for vs Geelong. The Geelong people are furious that a 'Geelong Legend' isn't staying and have said they'll follow his career where ever he goes. Chapman will always be Geelong.
I hated the whole Ben Cousins saga, as much as I wanted him to come and help the kids, Cousins vs Judd. Cousins vs West Coast. Cousins vs Sydney. I just didn't like a players personal battles being bigger than the club. I fear Chapman coming will cause a similar effect. Seeing as he won't be around for a long time I'm leaning towards passing on Chapman.
Lol who gives a poo. It's about winning.If it's not Chapman vs Geelong it will just be some other circus like Hampson vs Carlton in the VFL this week. :banghead
:lol
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Guys hes had 1 injury interrupted season that I can remember, came back too early from a hammy and that stuffed him, prior to that hes been very durable. At the right price this guy is a must, his character and drive will be invaluable to our stable of players who lets face it don't have a clue what real pressure and commitment is
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l'm sure we will secure Chapman but just waiting for it to be confirmed :thumbsup
How and why are you so sure? Spoken to someone at the club?
Spoken to someone who is at Geelong ;D
Spoken to Jackstar :lol Wait Wot!! He's going to end up at Essendon??
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Spoken to Jackstar :lol Wait Wot!! He's going to end up at Essendon??
Does Jackstar still post here ?
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No......apparently he's been seen down at Arden Street still waiting for Caddy to run out for his first game ;D
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:lol
End of story clowns
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PAUL CHAPMAN
Didn’t want to go, but the decision wasn’t his. Richmond the most interested, but Carlton and Essendon are also considering the match-winning forward.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/collingwood-defender-heath-shaw-on-holiday-to-consider-where-to-take-his-career/story-fnfll94y-1226733181603
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You bunch of Internet nuffers
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l'm sure we will secure Chapman but just waiting for it to be confirmed :thumbsup
How and why are you so sure? Spoken to someone at the club?
Spoken to someone who is at Geelong ;D
Hopefully they are on the money. I think he will add a lot to our side and development of the younger players.
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Does Jackstar still post here ?
Settle down girls.
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Does Jackstar still post here ?
Settle down girls.
Is that Jackstar or Jackstar is back, or is it an imposter?
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Does Jackstar still post here ?
Settle down girls.
Is that Jackstar or Jackstar is back, or is it an imposter?
It's his evil twin sister Jockstrap :o
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Following last years contraversy, Jackstar has been keeping his trade news close to his chest.
But the following can now be revealed (end of story clowns):-
Franklin to Port Adelaide is a lock. Watch this space.
Matty White to Carlton. Told him in traffic.
Sumich to coach Brisbane. Knows sumichs brother well, spoke to him once at Subway Glen Waverley.
Daisy and Shaw to stay pies (talked to them at Collingwoods best and fairest nite).
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Following last years contraversy, Jackstar has been keeping his trade news close to his chest.
But the following can now be revealed (end of story clowns):-
Franklin to Port Adelaide is a lock. Watch this space.
Matty White to Carlton. Told him in traffic.
Sumich to coach Brisbane. Knows sumichs brother well, spoke to him once at Subway Glen Waverley.
Daisy and Shaw to stay pies (talked to them at Collingwoods best and fairest nite).
some good dribble right there ;D
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Spoken to Jackstar :lol Wait Wot!! He's going to end up at Essendon??
Does Jackstar still post here ?
Yep
Just read lots of dribble on here Monk
😜
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Following last years contraversy, Jackstar has been keeping his trade news close to his chest.
But the following can now be revealed (end of story clowns):-
Franklin to Port Adelaide is a lock. Watch this space.
Matty White to Carlton. Told him in traffic.
Sumich to coach Brisbane. Knows sumichs brother well, spoke to him once at Subway Glen Waverley.
Daisy and Shaw to stay pies (talked to them at Collingwoods best and fairest nite).
the subway at Syndal is ok the glen waverley subway my 2nd preferred option because of parking at the glen just gives me the poos.
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Following last years contraversy, Jackstar has been keeping his trade news close to his chest.
But the following can now be revealed (end of story clowns):-
Franklin to Port Adelaide is a lock. Watch this space.
Matty White to Carlton. Told him in traffic.
Sumich to coach Brisbane. Knows sumichs brother well, spoke to him once at Subway Glen Waverley.
Daisy and Shaw to stay pies (talked to them at Collingwoods best and fairest nite).
the subway at Syndal is ok the glen waverley subway my 2nd preferred option because of parking at the glen just gives me the poos.
Pinewood on blackburn road round corner from glen or corner of springvale and ftg rd :thumbsup
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Spoken to Jackstar :lol Wait Wot!! He's going to end up at Essendon??
Does Jackstar still post here ?
Yep
Just read lots of dribble on here Monk
😜
l have noticed. l enjoyed the long break :thumbsup
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Following last years contraversy, Jackstar has been keeping his trade news close to his chest.
But the following can now be revealed (end of story clowns):-
Franklin to Port Adelaide is a lock. Watch this space.
Matty White to Carlton. Told him in traffic.
Sumich to coach Brisbane. Knows sumichs brother well, spoke to him once at Subway Glen Waverley.
Daisy and Shaw to stay pies (talked to them at Collingwoods best and fairest nite).
the subway at Syndal is ok the glen waverley subway my 2nd preferred option because of parking at the glen just gives me the poos.
Pinewood on blackburn road round corner from glen or corner of springvale and ftg rd :thumbsup
Pinewood is good but is usually packed with people at lunchtimes and waiting time is a hassle IMHO.
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Get Chapman!
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Mark Stevens Ch7 saying on twitter Tigers not interested in Chappy
Mark Stevens @Stevo7AFL Richmond not interested in Chappy
And Scotty Gullan from the HUN saying the same thing
Scott Gullan @gullanHeraldSun:
No tigers for Paul chapman.. Richmond Footy boss dan Richardson rules out goin for cats vet
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Spoken to Jackstar :lol Wait Wot!! He's going to end up at Essendon??
Does Jackstar still post here ?
Yep
Just read lots of dribble on here Monk
😜
l have noticed. l enjoyed the long break :thumbsup
Well you two would know ;D
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why would we chase after a bloke who gives his all. competes like his life depends on it can play both midfield and forward, has good skills and tons of footy smarts and experience in fact a top performer all round.
instead we would rather go after blokes like hampson who is almost the total opposite to what chapman is.
why would hartley break with tradition now. if they arent battlers we dont want em.
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Chapman is a fantastic player. He is a very good footballer but he is at the end of his career. If he was younger yes but his age goes against him.
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Dan Richardson on Channel 7 news saying Richmond are not interested in Chapman & reports they were chasing him are wrong. So in hearing that direct from the club we are not going after him. So l suppose that puts this thread to rest.
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Chapman might have been all claw said and more ,but he aint any more
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why would we chase after a bloke who gives his all. competes like his life depends on it can play both midfield and forward, has good skills and tons of footy smarts and experience in fact a top performer all round.
instead we would rather go after blokes like hampson who is almost the total opposite to what chapman is.
why would hartley break with tradition now. if they arent battlers we dont want em.
Because be is too old, that's why.
Pros and cons either way but the fact remains that he's too old to benefit us anywhere beyond next year.
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Time to be moved to view from the outer, not happening ;D
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why would we chase after a bloke who gives his all. competes like his life depends on it can play both midfield and forward, has good skills and tons of footy smarts and experience in fact a top performer all round.
instead we would rather go after blokes like hampson who is almost the total opposite to what chapman is.
why would hartley break with tradition now. if they arent battlers we dont want em.
Because be is too old, that's why.
Pros and cons either way but the fact remains that he's too old to benefit us anywhere beyond next year.
what and orren stephenson isnt too old bloody hell.
newman in decline at 32 and we give him a yr is he too old as well. what about king 30 at the start of the yr gotta be too old.
do i need to go on. we have need of quality players weather they are 20 or 30 simple fact is chapman is a quality player and far better than most on our list.
besides what cons apart from age there is not one thing to dislike about paul chapman. id want him at the club even if he didnt play a game you cant but his kind of experience and leadership.
he has gotta be worth giving one yr to regardless.
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Great decision by Richmond
I've always loved watching Chappy kick goals against us :clapping
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Chapman is one of my favourite players in the league claw, but at 32 (next month) the odds of him contributing on-field are poor unless he does a Dustin Fletcher and plays until he's 35+.
I don't think he will be part of the premiership window is what I'm getting at. I love Newy and Kingy too but its the same issue, probably gonna run out of puff before we get the flag.
Should be investing in younger players. Our ruck stocks were crap last year hence the importance of Big O. However a small forward is a position I'd rather be blooding teenagers in as opposed to the ruck.
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So claw you want to recruit a player even if he plays zero games for us?
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Lap up the recruitment of Hampson yet Chapman can't contribute. Unbelievable.
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Maybe Chapman rejected our offer? :shh
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bald **** >:(
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bald **** >:(
Was just a suggestion. :lol
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So claw you want to recruit a player even if he plays zero games for us?
of course not it was abit of toungue in cheek.
you want him to play. but you know what if he didnt thru injury it would not be the end of the world hed bring heaps to the club in an off field capacity.
its funny we took brad miller and orren stephenson as bach ups. both were rookies and cost nothing. both served a purpose. both were old.
chappy is a delisted player and would cost nothing. yet unlike both orren and miller hes a massive upgrade on anything we have. we dont have a quality sml forward who is ready. chapman would be no back up he would force the 30 yr old king out of the side. he would add to both our forward line and our midfield and our young blokes would learn heaps, especially mcdonough who is a similar type in many ways but just not ready for afl footy.
people say the injuries are a concern i say absolute bull dust.
he had a hammy this yr that should have kept him out for 3 or 4 weeks. geelong have said they bought him back too early and turned a normal injury into a real problem.
his form this yr either side of the injury has been great.
properly managed over two yrs he would offer plenty.
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Chapman is one of my favourite players in the league claw, but at 32 (next month) the odds of him contributing on-field are poor unless he does a Dustin Fletcher and plays until he's 35+.
I don't think he will be part of the premiership window is what I'm getting at. I love Newy and Kingy too but its the same issue, probably gonna run out of puff before we get the flag.
Should be investing in younger players. Our ruck stocks were crap last year hence the importance of Big O. However a small forward is a position I'd rather be blooding teenagers in as opposed to the ruck.
what makes you think hes actually in decline. his form either side of his hamstring injury was very good. as for the injury itself its been widely reported that he came back too early and made it worse. i could understand if he had been regularly injured over the last few yrs but hes been incredibly durable. he could well do a fletcher.
of course he wont be part of a premiership but he would be another cog in raising thje bar at richmond its not all about next yr or the yr after.
so if newy and king wont be there in 3 or 4yrs time why not cut em now.
im actually gob smacked geelong have cut him and kept a bloke like bartel who really looks to be struggling.
we invest in both youngsters and mature players and thats as it should be. invest in youth with good nd picks, take the mature players for prasctically nothing and it doesnt matter how old they are. we got hampson yesterday why keep orren.
finally we dont play youing sml forwards we only bhave one and hes not ready. we lack quality in this position and chapman more than fixes it even if only for a yr or two.
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Why would Geelong axe him if they didn't feel his body was shot? And who would know better than them?
I suspect his good form either side of the injury was due to the breaks prior - pre-season and injury making him rested for his two spurts at AFL level. May have very well struggled to play a full year. Just a theory, but id be very surprised if he had anything more than a year left in him given that Geelong axed him whilst their premiership window may still be open.
There's a part of me that would love to see him playing for us but I'm just lookin to the future. He's on the wrong side of 30 and IMO we should be finding somebody younger. Big O costs a fraction of what chapman will probably ask for given his CV, and the team just can't function without a ruck whilst not having a good small forward (which we haven't for a while) isn't as bad as being without a ruck.
Newman and King, yeah I'd take my hat off to them if they got the axe but I wouldn't be crying for the impending doom so to say.
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Why would Geelong axe him if they didn't feel his body was shot? And who would know better than them?
I suspect his good form either side of the injury was due to the breaks prior - pre-season and injury making him rested for his two spurts at AFL level. May have very well struggled to play a full year. Just a theory, but id be very surprised if he had anything more than a year left in him given that Geelong axed him whilst their premiership window may still be open.
There's a part of me that would love to see him playing for us but I'm just lookin to the future. He's on the wrong side of 30 and IMO we should be finding somebody younger. Big O costs a fraction of what chapman will probably ask for given his CV, and the team just can't function without a ruck whilst not having a good small forward (which we haven't for a while) isn't as bad as being without a ruck.
Newman and King, yeah I'd take my hat off to them if they got the axe but I wouldn't be crying for the impending doom so to say.
my take on it is they risk losing really good young players who have been waiting for a go if they dont start to play em. as i said we are not in that position when it comes to the role chapman would play.
tell me did he or did he not play really good footy before his hammy. and did he or did he not play reaslly good footy after it. do we judge players on what others do or do we judge on what we see and their performances.
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Why would Geelong axe him if they didn't feel his body was shot?
They need to reduce the average age of the 22
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Why would Geelong axe him if they didn't feel his body was shot?
They need to reduce the average age of the 22
No it's not, it's bc they have 3 or 4 guys that play that position including motlop, christensen etc and need to start playing them before its too late. Chapman was stifling the development of some.
We on he other hand hardly have riches in this department and find it staggering we're not not interested or ever were..
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FWIW I reckon Chappy might be just past his use by date and I'm comfortable with the club not chasing him.
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Slots 4 in a big final FFS
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Slots 4 in a big final FFS
Theyre talking cracy mang
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Chapman to the Bombers
FO while we are stuck me Potential Edwards
Make your move tiges get him on a 1-2 deal
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Essendon front runners and they're confident they have him
better than bj's mail :shh
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3AW are reporting that Paul Chapman has undergone a medical test at Essendon today, and will sign on with the Bombers after a talk with former premiership coach, Mark Thompson.
Chapman and Essendon have agreed to terms, believed to be on a two year contract.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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So I'll be the first to say I'm having second thoughts about not getting Chapman...
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Chappy was an absolute warrior of a player, and has just played his best game of the 20 he will play for the Dons in his 2 years there.
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So I'll be the first to say I'm having second thoughts about not getting Chapman...
I will be the second
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Him not wanting to come here is irrelevant I guess...
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Him not wanting to come here is irrelevant I guess...
We were never interested anyway, Gale or Richardson said as much on radio back then.
I wanted him, quality player but 2 years $350+ a season is probably pushing it a bit with his age and recent history of hamstrings. Was limping late yesterday..
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lol typical ignore the quality go for the battlers.
the only scenario id be against getting such proven players as goddard or chapman is the cost in nd picks. or if we were in the early stages of rebuild. we certainly aint in that mode not by the clubs actions the last two yrs.
they were both on the market for free and we didnt even have a look. nope we prefer the stephensons petterds lloyds hampsons etc of this world. you lot know the type well. those types who have done little in their careers and have chromic weaknesses.
we were in the same boat as ess looking to maybe make top 4 and certainly consolidate in the 8. if there was ever a time to get a quality mature player like chapman it was now.
we scream out for a high quality sml fwd/mid and cant even look at the best one available. thats unbelievable. ive heard the ridiculous excuses, too old too injury prone wants too much money what uteer crap each excuse is.
we should have thrown the sink at chappy and at least looked at one of the many junior sml/fwd options that were about the place in the nd/and rookie drafts.
its like the yr before. they say we need more mids they cant even look at the best available one in moloney . instead hacks like lonergan are taken. why cant we even look at the best players available to us in roles we are horrible in or badly lack in. why cant we take at a time when it makes sense to take em.
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I wanted him. Only needs to play 15 games over two years. Just be fit for finals.
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I wanted him. Only needs to play 15 games over two years. Just be fit for finals.
First final that is as we are not good enough to progress
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Chapman to the Bombers
FO while we are stuck me Potential Edwards
Make your move tiges get him on a 1-2 deal
bump!!
stuffin idiots we are stuck with this merda minkia
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Chapman to the Bombers
FO while we are stuck me Potential Edwards
Make your move tiges get him on a 1-2 deal
bump!!
stuffin idiots we are stuck with this merda minkia
We drafted the spud Azza Edwards but no Paul Chapman was not for us. HARDWICK you idiot
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Chapman to the Bombers
FO while we are stuck me Potential Edwards
Make your move tiges get him on a 1-2 deal
bump!!
stuffin idiots we are stuck with this merda minkia
We drafted the spud Azza Edwards but no Paul Chapman was not for us. HARDWICK you idiot
lol edwards has been a decent pick up and has nothing to do with weather we took chapman or not. funny how targeting mature players is now hardwicks fault when it clearly been the domain of both hartley and jackson.
if you wish to compare players we took instead of chapman look no further than lloyd and banfield.
jeez anyone would think going by reactions that what has happened in the first 3 weeks was totally unexpected.
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Chapman to the Bombers
FO while we are stuck me Potential Edwards
Make your move tiges get him on a 1-2 deal
bump!!
stuffin idiots we are stuck with this merda minkia
We drafted the spud Azza Edwards but no Paul Chapman was not for us. HARDWICK you idiot
lol edwards has been a decent pick up and has nothing to do with weather we took chapman or not. funny how targeting mature players is now hardwicks fault when it clearly been the domain of both hartley and jackson.
if you wish to compare players we took instead of chapman look no further than lloyd and banfield.
jeez anyone would think going by reactions that what has happened in the first 3 weeks was totally unexpected.
please tell me more about how aaron edwards has been a good pickup
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Chapman to the Bombers
FO while we are stuck me Potential Edwards
Make your move tiges get him on a 1-2 deal
bump!!
stuffin idiots we are stuck with this merda minkia
We drafted the spud Azza Edwards but no Paul Chapman was not for us. HARDWICK you idiot
lol edwards has been a decent pick up and has nothing to do with weather we took chapman or not. funny how targeting mature players is now hardwicks fault when it clearly been the domain of both hartley and jackson.
if you wish to compare players we took instead of chapman look no further than lloyd and banfield.
jeez anyone would think going by reactions that what has happened in the first 3 weeks was totally unexpected.
please tell me more about how aaron edwards has been a good pickup
He said decent, not good. Please tell us more about how he's been a bad pick up.
See what I did there?
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Stifled the development of promising young kpf
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Stifled the development of promising young kpf
Like who? Griffiths? :lol
Edwards came into our team last year and played really well as a hit up forward. He'll probably come in and play a role for us at some point this year as well.
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Griffiths Elton McBean Ohanlon Astbury
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Griffiths Elton McBean Ohanlon Astbury
Astbury is a defender. O'Hanlon isn't a key forward. McBean, unlike Griffiths, got off his arse last year and kicked 30+ goals in the VFL. Elton just hasn't done anything. Nothing to do with Aaron Edwards mate.
Pull your head in.
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Matty Thomas stifling the development of Matt Arnot!!!!!
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Matty Thomas stifling the development of Matt Arnot!!!!!
there was no way in the world i wanted matt thomas. but bloody hell no one can deny hes been very good in his three games.
the only questions i have now is, can he maintain the level ? will old habits kick in again?.
i find it bemusing with supporters. it seems most cant grasp the simple fact that you need a combination of both mature and junior players.or that there is merit in both mature drafting and junior drafting.
we took vlastuin, mcintosh, mcbean and mcdonough and we balanced the list proper out with the likes of chaplin, knights and edwards who cost us nothing and actually filled list holes and improved us.. there was nothing wrong with this sort of balanced recruiting.
we may argue the players we took but for sure and certain no one can argue the process we went thru.
the only similar player to aaron edwards on the entire list when we drafted aaron was ohanlon and he was miles away from getting a game.
addressing a huge hole in the list with a decent short term solution for practically nothing is smart but it seems some people can see no further than a players age and ignore all else.
on arnot well i have my doubts about him there is no way he can offer to the side what thomas has atm. there are plenty of underperformers who arnot can force out if hes good enough.
reckon we are on the same page in this.
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I'm so angry I'm furious
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I'm so angry I'm furious
Shirley you can't be serious?
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I'm so angry I'm furious
Shirley you can't be serious?
Yes seriously furious Shirley
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The only reason we should be discussing Paul Chapman is to talk about that the Cats know when to move on their older players.
Chapman has been in great form, but Geelong have slowly introduced a new batch of kids and haven't missed a beat.
It's time the Tigers got ruthless with a few players and backed their kids.
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The only reason we should be discussing Paul Chapman is to talk about that the Cats know when to move on their older players.
Chapman has been in great form, but Geelong have slowly introduced a new batch of kids and haven't missed a beat.
It's time the Tigers got ruthless with a few players and backed their kids.
Absolutely spot on wayne
Scott copped a bagging for cutting Chapman but they aren't missing him
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It's time the Tigers got ruthless with a few players and backed their kids.
Agree Wayne. Time to stop gifting games. Wield the axe and try some kids. Gordon looked hungrier than most of his teammates when he got a run.
Dimma won't do it though and it doesn't help that the magoos got beat by 50 goals.
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The guys in the magoos don't give a stuff. Would u bust your gut if you knew you wouldn't get a game anyway?
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Disagree Wayne
Chappy would have taken the role of Edwards and King who are useless
Perfect mentor for a Gordon and others in the F50.
Didn't think bombers needed him and look how well he has slotted in there.
We have no leaders at the RFC, cats have plenty hence why is he was delisted
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Disagree Wayne
Chappy would have taken the role of Edwards and King who are useless
Perfect mentor for a Gordon and others in the F50.
Didn't think bombers needed him and look how well he has slotted in there.
We have no leaders at the RFC, cats have plenty hence why is he was delisted
All true as well Angus but he didn't want to come the Richmond, he wanted to got where bomber Thompson was, so what's the point of thinking about what he could've done.
Didn't want to be at Richmond, so it really doesn't matter now
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Disagree Wayne
Chappy would have taken the role of Edwards and King who are useless
Perfect mentor for a Gordon and others in the F50.
Didn't think bombers needed him and look how well he has slotted in there.
We have no leaders at the RFC, cats have plenty hence why is he was delisted
All true as well Angus but he didn't want to come the Richmond, he wanted to got where bomber Thompson was, so what's the point of thinking about what he could've done.
Didn't want to be at Richmond, so it really doesn't matter now
Says who
U, me, taxi driver. Show me where chappy publicly stated he wants to go where bomber is, before draft day. Adams wanted to go to punt road, doesn't mean he ended up here or anyone for that matter
If we went hard and failed so be it fine, but we didn't because the powers at be think we are locked and loaded in our F50 with the fantasy island brigade we have down there at punt road
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Disagree Wayne
Chappy would have taken the role of Edwards and King who are useless
Perfect mentor for a Gordon and others in the F50.
Didn't think bombers needed him and look how well he has slotted in there.
We have no leaders at the RFC, cats have plenty hence why is he was delisted
All true as well Angus but he didn't want to come the Richmond, he wanted to got where bomber Thompson was, so what's the point of thinking about what he could've done.
Didn't want to be at Richmond, so it really doesn't matter now
Says who
U, me, taxi driver. Show me where chappy publicly stated he wants to go where bomber is, before draft day. Adams wanted to go to punt road, doesn't mean he ended up here or anyone for that matter
If we went hard and failed so be it fine, but we didn't because the powers at be think we are locked and loaded in our F50 with the fantasy island brigade we have down there at punt road
I was under the impression Richmond weren't interested and that's why Chapman wasn't interested either.
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No-one cares about Chapman his at another club please trash this topic
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Will do his hammy again soon enough...would've been handy in these first three games though.
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Will do his hammy again soon enough...would've been handy in these first three games though.
If we had him we win every game so far 3-0
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Chapman is 32. Seriously what's the point in bringing a 32 year old with paper hamstrings to the club ?
We have some talented kids on the list. Give a couple of them a go. And when I say a go , I don't mean what they did to McDonut. One game and then out. That's just crap.
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The only reason we should be discussing Paul Chapman is to talk about that the Cats know when to move on their older players.
Chapman has been in great form, but Geelong have slowly introduced a new batch of kids and haven't missed a beat.
It's time the Tigers got ruthless with a few players and backed their kids.
Fair point really
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No-one cares about Chapman his at another club please trash this topic
x2, this conversation is pointless....what if......what if I was a stuffing multi millionaire..... ::)
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Then you would put lots of charlie in yo bum hole
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Chapman is 32. Seriously what's the point in bringing a 32 year old with paper hamstrings to the club ?
We have some talented kids on the list. Give a couple of them a go. And when I say a go , I don't mean what they did to McDonut. One game and then out. That's just crap.
agree with this.
griffiths perfect example. Look how he is coming along.
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U, me, taxi driver. Show me where chappy publicly stated he wants to go where bomber is, before draft day. Adams wanted to go to punt road, doesn't mean he ended up here or anyone for that matter
If we went hard and failed so be it fine, but we didn't because the powers at be think we are locked and loaded in our F50 with the fantasy island brigade we have down there at punt road
Gee I don't know but maybe it had something to do with the fact as soon as Bomber was made coach he said wouldn't mind going there and then low and behold the Bombers made him an offer
As for Adams in the end he choose the Pies so he really didn't want to come to the Tigers.
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I guess Richmond just sit and wait until a player comes out and says they "wouldn't mind" playing for us before we get off our arse and make an offer.
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U, me, taxi driver. Show me where chappy publicly stated he wants to go where bomber is, before draft day. Adams wanted to go to punt road, doesn't mean he ended up here or anyone for that matter
If we went hard and failed so be it fine, but we didn't because the powers at be think we are locked and loaded in our F50 with the fantasy island brigade we have down there at punt road
Gee I don't know but maybe it had something to do with the fact as soon as Bomber was made coach he said wouldn't mind going there and then low and behold the Bombers made him an offer
As for Adams in the end he choose the Pies so he really didn't want to come to the Tigers.
For Adams, we weren't prepared to pay the coin which was reportedly $400k.
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U, me, taxi driver. Show me where chappy publicly stated he wants to go where bomber is, before draft day. Adams wanted to go to punt road, doesn't mean he ended up here or anyone for that matter
If we went hard and failed so be it fine, but we didn't because the powers at be think we are locked and loaded in our F50 with the fantasy island brigade we have down there at punt road
Gee I don't know but maybe it had something to do with the fact as soon as Bomber was made coach he said wouldn't mind going there and then low and behold the Bombers made him an offer
As for Adams in the end he choose the Pies so he really didn't want to come to the Tigers.
For Adams, we weren't prepared to pay the coin which was reportedly $400k.
Which is further proof the kid didn't want to come the RFC, he was chasing coin and sold himself to the highest bidder ;D
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U, me, taxi driver. Show me where chappy publicly stated he wants to go where bomber is, before draft day. Adams wanted to go to punt road, doesn't mean he ended up here or anyone for that matter
If we went hard and failed so be it fine, but we didn't because the powers at be think we are locked and loaded in our F50 with the fantasy island brigade we have down there at punt road
Gee I don't know but maybe it had something to do with the fact as soon as Bomber was made coach he said wouldn't mind going there and then low and behold the Bombers made him an offer
As for Adams in the end he choose the Pies so he really didn't want to come to the Tigers.
For Adams, we weren't prepared to pay the coin which was reportedly $400k.
Which is further proof the kid didn't want to come the RFC, he was chasing coin and sold himself to the highest bidder ;D
To be fair to the kid, he just wanted to come home. His manager would have been the one trying to get him the best deal - they work off commission you know! In the end Maggie's had plenty of room with Daisy and Shaw leaving.
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U, me, taxi driver. Show me where chappy publicly stated he wants to go where bomber is, before draft day. Adams wanted to go to punt road, doesn't mean he ended up here or anyone for that matter
If we went hard and failed so be it fine, but we didn't because the powers at be think we are locked and loaded in our F50 with the fantasy island brigade we have down there at punt road
Gee I don't know but maybe it had something to do with the fact as soon as Bomber was made coach he said wouldn't mind going there and then low and behold the Bombers made him an offer
As for Adams in the end he choose the Pies so he really didn't want to come to the Tigers.
For Adams, we weren't prepared to pay the coin which was reportedly $400k.
Which is further proof the kid didn't want to come the RFC, he was chasing coin and sold himself to the highest bidder ;D
I wrote this the other day but it seems to be the same OLD people making up the same OLD excuses for our recruiting. Take a bloody risk Tigers. Grigg would be on 300k/350k IMO, get rid of him and find anther $50k and we have a ten year player that has a decent crack in Adams. Really not that hard if you want to make things work.
Stop making excuses for a mediocre club when it comes to tough decisions.
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Chapman is 32. Seriously what's the point in bringing a 32 year old with paper hamstrings to the club ?
We have some talented kids on the list. Give a couple of them a go. And when I say a go , I don't mean what they did to McDonut. One game and then out. That's just crap.
Great post. Chappy going ok at the Bombers. Pretty good fit there but the last thing we needed was another set of old legs.
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Chapman will break down mid year.
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Chapman will break down mid year.
.....hopefully in tears after half his teammates are banned.
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One injury away from disaster.
Honeymoon period is always good.
Once the honey goes your left with a moon and it just keeps getting bigger and bigger until it sits on your face and smothers you.
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The only reason we should be discussing Paul Chapman is to talk about that the Cats know when to move on their older players.
Chapman has been in great form, but Geelong have slowly introduced a new batch of kids and haven't missed a beat.
It's time the Tigers got ruthless with a few players and backed their kids.
i disagree with this.
imo geelong have it wrong. chapman would easily be in their best 10 still yet alone 22 and isnt stopping them playing any kid. where does this myth come from why do people think playing chapman and playing kids is mutually exclusive.
does enright still get games. or kelly or bartel or stokes arent they keeping kids out of games which quite frankly hasnt happened at geelong anyway. their kids have got games despite the abundance of outstanding mature players because they have shown enough and performed well enough at vfl level and when they play seniors.ffs if chapman is not rubbed out they probably win a preliminary final and play off in the g/f.
this bloke massively influenced games when he came back from his hammys last yr and he has massively influenced games this yr.
here we are a club coming off finals and looking to do better and we cant even look at a high quality player who would replace a hack like jake king in the side.and address a serious list need. instead we went after blokes like banfield and lloyd, i have to ask is chappy keeping a kid out at essendon of course not. is fletcher keeping a kid out or are they going to lose kids because of em absolutely not.
is matt thomas keeping arnot out of our side what a dumb way to look at it. blokes like shane edwards are keeping arnot out.
im all for giving blokes like miles arnot helbig elton a game and we stop gifting games to blokes constantly underperforming in the seniors . but lets not jkid ourselves about the majority of our juniors. these kids in the main are nothing like geelongs and have not earnt a game.
what juniors are we going to play, our juniors aged 21 and under are.
conca - imo should be dropped hes so out of form. he is one junior regularly getting games.
arnot
darrou
ellis regular
elton
lennon been injured,
mcbean
mcdonough
mcintosh
ohanlon
vlastuin - regular
williams
outside of the regulars who are the rest going to replace and out perform.
its not quality players keeping juniors and development players out of our side its hacks like grigg king petterd edwards etc.
and to the poster who clearly hasnt watched chappy over the yrs or done a shred of homework on him and his injuries. he doesnt have paper hammies and he is remarkably resiliant when it comes to injuries. hes played a minimum of 19 games every yr from 2003 to 2012. the only significant amount of time he has missed games was last yr when the cats admitted they bought him back too early from his initial hamstring injury. he hasnt missed a game since.
the thing we most need is quality he is a good fit at essendon and he would be an even bbetter fit with us.
if we had gone and got quality like essendon did with chappy and goddard i have no doubt we would be 3 and 0 with finals a real possibility. but hey it seems posters think medicre plauyers will take us further. they prefer to see the likes of king and edwards running around.
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The only reason we should be discussing Paul Chapman is to talk about that the Cats know when to move on their older players.
Chapman has been in great form, but Geelong have slowly introduced a new batch of kids and haven't missed a beat.
It's time the Tigers got ruthless with a few players and backed their kids.
i disagree with this.
imo geelong have it wrong. chapman would easily be in their best 10 still yet alone 22 and isnt stopping them playing any kid. where does this myth come from why do people think playing chapman and playing kids is mutually exclusive.
does enright still get games. or kelly or bartel or stokes arent they keeping kids out of games which quite frankly hasnt happened at geelong anyway. their kids have got games despite the abundance of outstanding mature players because they have shown enough and performed well enough at vfl level and when they play seniors.ffs if chapman is not rubbed out they probably win a preliminary final and play off in the g/f.
this bloke massively influenced games when he came back from his hammys last yr and he has massively influenced games this yr.
here we are a club coming off finals and looking to do better and we cant even look at a high quality player who would replace a hack like jake king in the side.and address a serious list need. instead we went after blokes like banfield and lloyd, i have to ask is chappy keeping a kid out at essendon of course not. is fletcher keeping a kid out or are they going to lose kids because of em absolutely not.
is matt thomas keeping arnot out of our side what a dumb way to look at it. blokes like shane edwards are keeping arnot out.
im all for giving blokes like miles arnot helbig elton a game and we stop gifting games to blokes constantly underperforming in the seniors . but lets not jkid ourselves about the majority of our juniors. these kids in the main are nothing like geelongs and have not earnt a game.
what juniors are we going to play, our juniors aged 21 and under are.
conca - imo should be dropped hes so out of form. he is one junior regularly getting games.
arnot
darrou
ellis regular
elton
lennon been injured,
mcbean
mcdonough
mcintosh
ohanlon
vlastuin - regular
williams
outside of the regulars who are the rest going to replace and out perform.
its not quality players keeping juniors and development players out of our side its hacks like grigg king petterd edwards etc.
and to the poster who clearly hasnt watched chappy over the yrs or done a shred of homework on him and his injuries. he doesnt have paper hammies and he is remarkably resiliant when it comes to injuries. hes played a minimum of 19 games every yr from 2003 to 2012. the only significant amount of time he has missed games was last yr when the cats admitted they bought him back too early from his initial hamstring injury. he hasnt missed a game since.
the thing we most need is quality he is a good fit at essendon and he would be an even bbetter fit with us.
if we had gone and got quality like essendon did with chappy and goddard i have no doubt we would be 3 and 0 with finals a real possibility. but hey it seems posters think medicre plauyers will take us further. they prefer to see the likes of king and edwards running around.
Agree completely! :clapping :clapping
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I wrote this the other day but it seems to be the same OLD people making up the same OLD excuses for our recruiting. Take a bloody risk Tigers. Grigg would be on 300k/350k IMO, get rid of him and find anther $50k and we have a ten year player that has a decent crack in Adams. Really not that hard if you want to make things work.
Stop making excuses for a mediocre club when it comes to tough decisions.
Firstly I am not that OLD ;D
Seriously, I am not making excuses for the recruiters and the bloke who is in charge of list management (who BTW should be held accountable a bit more than a few others) but if a player doesn't want to come to the club then why bother chasing them if all they are after is the pay packet? They made an offer to Adams, he knocked it back. Pies offered more $$ he took that = done & dusted. And going by the way he's struggling at the Pies at the moment and the money he is reportedly on; then you have an argument that he is being over paid and have to ask is he worth that supposed $400k he is on at C'wood.
Can only imagine how this forum would be if Adams' was at the RFC, playing the way he is at the moment on the $$ he is reportedly on? Got no doubt the majority would be taking aim at the Club saying we've paid overs for another dud ;D
I'm all for going after good players but weary about paying overs. Said it at trade time I would love to have seen the Club put up some decent players for trade to try and get a top 5 draft pick from somewhere. But as usual they didn't have the courage/guts to do that.
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The only reason we should be discussing Paul Chapman is to talk about that the Cats know when to move on their older players.
Chapman has been in great form, but Geelong have slowly introduced a new batch of kids and haven't missed a beat.
It's time the Tigers got ruthless with a few players and backed their kids.
i disagree with this.
imo geelong have it wrong. chapman would easily be in their best 10 still yet alone 22 and isnt stopping them playing any kid. where does this myth come from why do people think playing chapman and playing kids is mutually exclusive.
does enright still get games. or kelly or bartel or stokes arent they keeping kids out of games which quite frankly hasnt happened at geelong anyway. their kids have got games despite the abundance of outstanding mature players because they have shown enough and performed well enough at vfl level and when they play seniors.ffs if chapman is not rubbed out they probably win a preliminary final and play off in the g/f.
this bloke massively influenced games when he came back from his hammys last yr and he has massively influenced games this yr.
here we are a club coming off finals and looking to do better and we cant even look at a high quality player who would replace a hack like jake king in the side.and address a serious list need. instead we went after blokes like banfield and lloyd, i have to ask is chappy keeping a kid out at essendon of course not. is fletcher keeping a kid out or are they going to lose kids because of em absolutely not.
is matt thomas keeping arnot out of our side what a dumb way to look at it. blokes like shane edwards are keeping arnot out.
im all for giving blokes like miles arnot helbig elton a game and we stop gifting games to blokes constantly underperforming in the seniors . but lets not jkid ourselves about the majority of our juniors. these kids in the main are nothing like geelongs and have not earnt a game.
what juniors are we going to play, our juniors aged 21 and under are.
conca - imo should be dropped hes so out of form. he is one junior regularly getting games.
arnot
darrou
ellis regular
elton
lennon been injured,
mcbean
mcdonough
mcintosh
ohanlon
vlastuin - regular
williams
outside of the regulars who are the rest going to replace and out perform.
its not quality players keeping juniors and development players out of our side its hacks like grigg king petterd edwards etc.
and to the poster who clearly hasnt watched chappy over the yrs or done a shred of homework on him and his injuries. he doesnt have paper hammies and he is remarkably resiliant when it comes to injuries. hes played a minimum of 19 games every yr from 2003 to 2012. the only significant amount of time he has missed games was last yr when the cats admitted they bought him back too early from his initial hamstring injury. he hasnt missed a game since.
the thing we most need is quality he is a good fit at essendon and he would be an even bbetter fit with us.
if we had gone and got quality like essendon did with chappy and goddard i have no doubt we would be 3 and 0 with finals a real possibility. but hey it seems posters think medicre plauyers will take us further. they prefer to see the likes of king and edwards running around.
TLDNR
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I wrote this the other day but it seems to be the same OLD people making up the same OLD excuses for our recruiting. Take a bloody risk Tigers. Grigg would be on 300k/350k IMO, get rid of him and find anther $50k and we have a ten year player that has a decent crack in Adams. Really not that hard if you want to make things work.
Stop making excuses for a mediocre club when it comes to tough decisions.
Firstly I am not that OLD ;D
Seriously, I am not making excuses for the recruiters and the bloke who is in charge of list management (who BTW should be held accountable a bit more than a few others) but if a player doesn't want to come to the club then why bother chasing them if all they are after is the pay packet? They made an offer to Adams, he knocked it back. Pies offered more $$ he took that = done & dusted. And going by the way he's struggling at the Pies at the moment and the money he is reportedly on; then you have an argument that he is being over paid and have to ask is he worth that supposed $400k he is on at C'wood.
Can only imagine how this forum would be if Adams' was at the RFC, playing the way he is at the moment on the $$ he is reportedly on? Got no doubt the majority would be taking aim at the Club saying we've paid overs for another dud ;D
I'm all for going after good players but weary about paying overs. Said it at trade time I would love to have seen the Club put up some decent players for trade to try and get a top 5 draft pick from somewhere. But as usual they didn't have the courage/guts to do that.
IMO Adams made a poor decision based on football not to come here. He'd have been a perfect fit for us. But for the Pies he's trying to push past Beams, Pendles and Swan.
Hope he's enjoying the cash. :lol
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I wrote this the other day but it seems to be the same OLD people making up the same OLD excuses for our recruiting. Take a bloody risk Tigers. Grigg would be on 300k/350k IMO, get rid of him and find anther $50k and we have a ten year player that has a decent crack in Adams. Really not that hard if you want to make things work.
Stop making excuses for a mediocre club when it comes to tough decisions.
Firstly I am not that OLD ;D
Seriously, I am not making excuses for the recruiters and the bloke who is in charge of list management (who BTW should be held accountable a bit more than a few others) but if a player doesn't want to come to the club then why bother chasing them if all they are after is the pay packet? They made an offer to Adams, he knocked it back. Pies offered more $$ he took that = done & dusted. And going by the way he's struggling at the Pies at the moment and the money he is reportedly on; then you have an argument that he is being over paid and have to ask is he worth that supposed $400k he is on at C'wood.
Can only imagine how this forum would be if Adams' was at the RFC, playing the way he is at the moment on the $$ he is reportedly on? Got no doubt the majority would be taking aim at the Club saying we've paid overs for another dud ;D
I'm all for going after good players but weary about paying overs. Said it at trade time I would love to have seen the Club put up some decent players for trade to try and get a top 5 draft pick from somewhere. But as usual they didn't have the courage/guts to do that.
IMO Adams made a poor decision based on football not to come here. He'd have been a perfect fit for us. But for the Pies he's trying to push past Beams, Pendles and Swan.
Hope he's enjoying the cash. :lol
Please, we would've played Ricky Pettard and Grigg ahead of him while he rot in the 2's
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imo geelong have it wrong. chapman would easily be in their best 10 still yet alone 22 and isnt stopping them playing any kid. where does this myth come from why do people think playing chapman and playing kids is mutually exclusive.
I wouldn't call it wrong, the Cats are 3-0 and cruising along nicely at this stage.
Chapman is a champ.
My point is that Geelong thought that Chappy was coming towards the end and they weren't going to give him another contract. We have a guy that is nowhere near as good as Chappy, and we a) give him another year; and b) have him playing seniors when he doesn't really offer much.
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Gotta remember too that Geelong did actually offer Chappy a contract. I think it was the clauses that made him leave ? Something about him only playing a max of 10 or 12 games so they could get some games into some kids.
They knew exactly what they were doing. Good management. Take note RFC
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His already injured & unlikely to play this weekend. Time to move on ;D
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Hmm so he wouldn't be a happy Chappy
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His already injured & unlikely to play this weekend. Time to move on ;D
He's not injured, just a rest cos he's old. If we had him we'd be 3-0 right now, bombers would be 1-2 like we are. We would only need him for 10-15 games and finals. A massive weapon up our sleeve
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We should have taken him but we didnt, so get tge stuff over it and move on priks!!
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Stunning this thread has 16 pages.
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Stunning this thread has 16 pages.
No, it's not. Get a clue, guy.
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No
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I wrote this the other day but it seems to be the same OLD people making up the same OLD excuses for our recruiting. Take a bloody risk Tigers. Grigg would be on 300k/350k IMO, get rid of him and find anther $50k and we have a ten year player that has a decent crack in Adams. Really not that hard if you want to make things work.
Stop making excuses for a mediocre club when it comes to tough decisions.
Firstly I am not that OLD ;D
Seriously, I am not making excuses for the recruiters and the bloke who is in charge of list management (who BTW should be held accountable a bit more than a few others) but if a player doesn't want to come to the club then why bother chasing them if all they are after is the pay packet? They made an offer to Adams, he knocked it back. Pies offered more $$ he took that = done & dusted. And going by the way he's struggling at the Pies at the moment and the money he is reportedly on; then you have an argument that he is being over paid and have to ask is he worth that supposed $400k he is on at C'wood.
Can only imagine how this forum would be if Adams' was at the RFC, playing the way he is at the moment on the $$ he is reportedly on? Got no doubt the majority would be taking aim at the Club saying we've paid overs for another dud ;D
I'm all for going after good players but weary about paying overs. Said it at trade time I would love to have seen the Club put up some decent players for trade to try and get a top 5 draft pick from somewhere. But as usual they didn't have the courage/guts to do that.
IMO Adams made a poor decision based on football not to come here. He'd have been a perfect fit for us. But for the Pies he's trying to push past Beams, Pendles and Swan.
Hope he's enjoying the cash. :lol
Please, we would've played Ricky Pettard and Grigg ahead of him while he rot in the 2's
nah, Adams played for another club. Straight in forever and ever.
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scared to hurt players, banished to 2nds should have injured Lumumba
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scared to hurt players, banished to 2nds should have injured Lumumba
This is the Paul Chapman thread brother. Troy Chaplin is the one you seek ;D