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Offline Judge Roughneck

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Re: Paul Chapman?
« Reply #105 on: October 04, 2013, 08:30:37 PM »
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« Reply #106 on: October 04, 2013, 08:39:51 PM »
More I think about it the more I think we shouldn't take Chapman.

For all the reasons people suggest taking a 31 year old on but also for the fact that we get a player that, in the media's eyes, will become bigger than the club for certain fixtures.

Chapman vs Geelong for a start will be a circus. Chapman vs Hawthorn will also be brought up with the whole idea of Chapman pushing the 'Kennett Curse' stuff. For a guy who won't play many games for the club do we really want this 'irrelevant' attention?

We are Richmond, not the club that Paul Chapman plays for vs Geelong. The Geelong people are furious that a 'Geelong Legend' isn't staying and have said they'll follow his career where ever he goes. Chapman will always be Geelong.

I hated the whole Ben Cousins saga, as much as I wanted him to come and help the kids, Cousins vs Judd. Cousins vs West Coast. Cousins vs Sydney. I just didn't like a players personal battles being bigger than the club. I fear Chapman coming will cause a similar effect. Seeing as he won't be around for a long time I'm leaning towards passing on Chapman.
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« Reply #107 on: October 05, 2013, 04:13:13 AM »
Chapman has attracted the interest of powerhouse trio Richmond, Carlton and Essendon.

The Tigers are understood to be the most keen, but such is their salary cap squeeze, Chapman would have to accept less money to move to Punt Rd. It’s believed Chapman was on significant money by Geelong standards.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-looms-large-as-a-possible-suitor-for-greater-western-sydney-midfielder-taylor-adams/story-fndv8lf1-1226733189906
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« Reply #108 on: October 05, 2013, 04:44:30 AM »
Would love Chappy - inspired choice by the club - again journos writing about our salary cap squeeze - is just horse pooh. Why wrote crap?
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« Reply #109 on: October 05, 2013, 06:15:11 AM »
How the stuff can we have a "salary cap squeeze" when the likes of Sydney, Carlton and the Pies have lists choc a block full of overpaid players and they are getting more??

It bemuses me....
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Re: Paul Chapman?
« Reply #110 on: October 05, 2013, 06:20:00 AM »
Quote from: WA Tiger on October 05, 2013, 06:15:11 AM
Hot the stuff can we have a "salary cap squeeze" when the likes of Sydney, Carlton and the Pies have lists choc a block full of overpaid players and they are getting more??

It bemuses me....

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Re: Paul Chapman?
« Reply #111 on: October 05, 2013, 06:39:01 AM »
Quote from: WA Tiger on October 05, 2013, 06:15:11 AM
How the stuff can we have a "salary cap squeeze" when the likes of Sydney, Carlton and the Pies have lists choc a block full of overpaid players and they are getting more??

It bemuses me....

As someone mentioned in another thread, all teams have to pay a minimum 95% of the salary cap regardless, the difference between paying 95 and 100 is roughly 500k, not much in a list of 40 players plus rookies. Very even playing field. Pretty ridiculous rule. Im actually thinking its harder to transform your list getting overpaid average players to take significant pay cuts as the team improves and some stars start developing.
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« Reply #112 on: October 05, 2013, 06:52:39 AM »
TM, as the Cats are now showing - smart trading and make hard decisions on de listing will free up the cap - if you are at 100% and remove J Pod, Chappy, Hunt and trade Varcoe, I'd imagine you free up $1m+ and collect yourself a 1st or 2nd round draft pick which goes into picking up Adams from GWS.

If we can just get our list into that next level of performance and be known as a Top 4 team we too might be able to play some of the cards.....

I just hope we are ruthless enough to make those hard calls - Newman probably doesn't deserve anoth year - had we been able to retire him Tuck, McGuane to Brisbane and Matt White to Power - you would think that frees up at least $1m in salary cap space...
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Re: Paul Chapman?
« Reply #113 on: October 05, 2013, 07:21:55 AM »
Newy must be punching himself he got another year

He has been useless for 2 yrs now

Is he not on the vet list?
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Re: Paul Chapman?
« Reply #114 on: October 05, 2013, 07:33:34 AM »
Lol, salary cap squeeze.  Chappy would have to accept less because he is an injury prone 31 year old.
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« Reply #115 on: October 05, 2013, 09:53:14 AM »
Quote from: yellowandback on October 05, 2013, 06:52:39 AM
TM, as the Cats are now showing - smart trading and make hard decisions on de listing will free up the cap - if you are at 100% and remove J Pod, Chappy, Hunt and trade Varcoe, I'd imagine you free up $1m+ and collect yourself a 1st or 2nd round draft pick which goes into picking up Adams from GWS.

If we can just get our list into that next level of performance and be known as a Top 4 team we too might be able to play some of the cards.....

I just hope we are ruthless enough to make those hard calls - Newman probably doesn't deserve anoth year - had we been able to retire him Tuck, McGuane to Brisbane and Matt White to Power - you would think that frees up at least $1m in salary cap space...

It probably does free up close to a million for us but with just 5 new kids we loose well ov half of that straight up and that's without bringing in anyone with experience ::)
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« Reply #116 on: October 05, 2013, 10:18:50 AM »
Quote from: yellowandback on October 05, 2013, 06:52:39 AM
TM, as the Cats are now showing - smart trading and make hard decisions on de listing will free up the cap - if you are at 100% and remove J Pod, Chappy, Hunt and trade Varcoe, I'd imagine you free up $1m+ and collect yourself a 1st or 2nd round draft pick which goes into picking up Adams from GWS.

If we can just get our list into that next level of performance and be known as a Top 4 team we too might be able to play some of the cards.....

I just hope we are ruthless enough to make those hard calls - Newman probably doesn't deserve anoth year - had we been able to retire him Tuck, McGuane to Brisbane and Matt White to Power - you would think that frees up at least $1m in salary cap space...

agree with all of that yab and tbh I have doubts we can make the really hard brutal calls
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Re: Paul Chapman?
« Reply #117 on: October 05, 2013, 02:59:30 PM »
Quote from: Popelord on October 04, 2013, 08:39:51 PM
More I think about it the more I think we shouldn't take Chapman.

For all the reasons people suggest taking a 31 year old on but also for the fact that we get a player that, in the media's eyes, will become bigger than the club for certain fixtures.

Chapman vs Geelong for a start will be a circus. Chapman vs Hawthorn will also be brought up with the whole idea of Chapman pushing the 'Kennett Curse' stuff. For a guy who won't play many games for the club do we really want this 'irrelevant' attention?

We are Richmond, not the club that Paul Chapman plays for vs Geelong. The Geelong people are furious that a 'Geelong Legend' isn't staying and have said they'll follow his career where ever he goes. Chapman will always be Geelong.

I hated the whole Ben Cousins saga, as much as I wanted him to come and help the kids, Cousins vs Judd. Cousins vs West Coast. Cousins vs Sydney. I just didn't like a players personal battles being bigger than the club. I fear Chapman coming will cause a similar effect. Seeing as he won't be around for a long time I'm leaning towards passing on Chapman.
Lol who gives a poo. It's about winning.If it's not Chapman vs Geelong it will just be some other circus like Hampson vs Carlton in the VFL this week.  :banghead
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« Reply #118 on: October 05, 2013, 03:32:39 PM »
Ive changed my mind on Chapman. At the start this seemed like a good choice but he isnt the right fit for us in terms of age and injury profile. Not worth the money to pay him what  he will want. The club should save the salary cap space and list space and try and get a younger player, preferably another forward. Wasting money on Hampson and Chapman is not the right way.
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Re: Paul Chapman?
« Reply #119 on: October 05, 2013, 04:41:25 PM »
Too old, too injured, too much.
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