Paul Chapman?

[Gigantor]

Chapman might have been all claw said and more ,but he aint any more

[Andyy]

why would we chase after a bloke who gives his all. competes like his life depends on it can play both midfield and forward, has good skills and tons of footy smarts and experience in fact a top performer all round.
instead we would rather go after blokes like hampson who is almost the total opposite to what chapman is.
why would hartley break with tradition now. if they arent battlers we dont want em.

Because be is too old, that's why.

Pros and cons either way but the fact remains that he's too old to benefit us anywhere beyond next year.

[Yeahright]

Time to be moved to view from the outer, not happening

[the claw]

why would we chase after a bloke who gives his all. competes like his life depends on it can play both midfield and forward, has good skills and tons of footy smarts and experience in fact a top performer all round.
instead we would rather go after blokes like hampson who is almost the total opposite to what chapman is.
why would hartley break with tradition now. if they arent battlers we dont want em.

Because be is too old, that's why.

Pros and cons either way but the fact remains that he's too old to benefit us anywhere beyond next year.

what and orren stephenson isnt too old bloody hell.
newman in decline at 32 and we give him a yr is he too old as well. what about king 30 at the start of the yr gotta be too old.
do i need to go on. we have need of quality players weather they are 20 or 30 simple fact is chapman is a quality player and far better than most on our list.

besides what cons apart from age there is not one thing to dislike about paul chapman. id want him at the club even if he didnt play a game you cant but his kind of experience and leadership.
he has gotta be worth giving one yr to regardless.

[gerkin greg]

Great decision by Richmond

I've always loved watching Chappy kick goals against us 

[Andyy]

Chapman is one of my favourite players in the league claw, but at 32 (next month) the odds of him contributing on-field are poor unless he does a Dustin Fletcher and plays until he's 35+.

I don't think he will be part of the premiership window is what I'm getting at. I love Newy and Kingy too but its the same issue, probably gonna run out of puff before we get the flag.

Should be investing in younger players. Our ruck stocks were crap last year hence the importance of Big O. However a small forward is a position I'd rather be blooding teenagers in as opposed to the ruck.

[Gigantor]

So claw you want to recruit a player even if he plays zero games for us?

[Coach]

Lap up the recruitment of Hampson yet Chapman can't contribute. Unbelievable.

[tigs2011]

Maybe Chapman rejected our offer? 

[gerkin greg]

bald **** 

[tigs2011]

bald **** 

Was just a suggestion. 

[the claw]

So claw you want to recruit a player even if he plays zero games for us?

of course not  it was abit of toungue in cheek.
you want him to play.  but you know what if he didnt thru injury it would not be the end of the world hed bring heaps to the club in an off field capacity.

its funny we took brad miller and orren stephenson as bach ups. both were rookies and cost nothing. both served a purpose. both were old.
chappy is a delisted player and would cost nothing. yet unlike both orren and miller hes a massive upgrade on anything we have. we dont have a quality sml forward who is ready.  chapman would be no back up he would force the 30 yr old king out of the side. he would add to both our forward line and our midfield and our young blokes would learn heaps, especially mcdonough who is a similar type in many ways but just not ready for afl footy.

people say the injuries are a concern i say absolute bull dust.
he had a hammy this yr that should have kept him out for 3 or 4 weeks. geelong have said they bought him back too early and turned a normal injury into a real problem.
his form this yr either side of the injury has been great.
properly managed over two yrs he would offer plenty.

[the claw]

Chapman is one of my favourite players in the league claw, but at 32 (next month) the odds of him contributing on-field are poor unless he does a Dustin Fletcher and plays until he's 35+.

I don't think he will be part of the premiership window is what I'm getting at. I love Newy and Kingy too but its the same issue, probably gonna run out of puff before we get the flag.

Should be investing in younger players. Our ruck stocks were crap last year hence the importance of Big O. However a small forward is a position I'd rather be blooding teenagers in as opposed to the ruck.

what makes you think hes actually in decline. his form either side of his hamstring injury was very good. as for the injury itself its been widely reported that he came back too early and made it worse.  i could understand if he had been regularly injured over the last few yrs but hes been incredibly durable. he could well do a fletcher.

of course he wont be part of a premiership but he would be another cog in raising thje bar at richmond  its not all about next yr or the yr after.
  so if newy and king wont be there in 3 or 4yrs time  why not cut em now.
 im actually gob smacked geelong have cut him and kept a bloke like bartel who really looks to be  struggling.

we invest in both youngsters and mature players and thats as it should be.  invest in youth with good nd picks, take the mature players for prasctically nothing and it doesnt matter how old they are. we got hampson yesterday why keep orren.

finally we dont play youing sml forwards we only bhave one and hes not ready. we lack quality in this position and chapman more than fixes it even if only for a yr or two.

[Andyy]

Why would Geelong axe him if they didn't feel his body was shot? And who would know better than them?

I suspect his good form either side of the injury was due to the breaks prior - pre-season and injury making him rested for his two spurts at AFL level. May have very well struggled to play a full year. Just a theory, but id be very surprised if he had anything more than a year left in him given that Geelong axed him whilst their premiership window may still be open.

There's a part of me that would love to see him playing for us but I'm just lookin to the future. He's on the wrong side of 30 and IMO we should be finding somebody younger. Big O costs a fraction of what chapman will probably ask for given his CV, and the team just can't function without a ruck whilst not having a good small forward (which we haven't for a while) isn't as bad as being without a ruck.

Newman and King, yeah I'd take my hat off to them if they got the axe but I wouldn't be crying for the impending doom so to say.

[the claw]

Why would Geelong axe him if they didn't feel his body was shot? And who would know better than them?

I suspect his good form either side of the injury was due to the breaks prior - pre-season and injury making him rested for his two spurts at AFL level. May have very well struggled to play a full year. Just a theory, but id be very surprised if he had anything more than a year left in him given that Geelong axed him whilst their premiership window may still be open.

There's a part of me that would love to see him playing for us but I'm just lookin to the future. He's on the wrong side of 30 and IMO we should be finding somebody younger. Big O costs a fraction of what chapman will probably ask for given his CV, and the team just can't function without a ruck whilst not having a good small forward (which we haven't for a while) isn't as bad as being without a ruck.

Newman and King, yeah I'd take my hat off to them if they got the axe but I wouldn't be crying for the impending doom so to say.

my take on it is they risk losing really good  young players who have been waiting for a go if they dont start to play em. as i said we are not in that position when it comes to the role chapman would play.
tell me did he or did he not play really good footy before his hammy. and did he or did he not play reaslly good footy after it. do we judge players on what others do or do we judge on what we see and their performances.