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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 21, 2013, 08:02:43 PM
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Welcome Nathan :)
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Gordo :clapping
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Pick 50 Nathan Gordon Richmond
(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Draft/2013/GORDON-Nathan.jpg)
Former club: North Adelaide
DOB: 12/02/1990
Height: 186cm
Weight: 86kg
Position: Midfielder
Games: 24
Goals: 33
Avg Kicks: 11.9
Avg Marks: 6.4
Avg Handballs: 5.3
Player assessment
Takes the game on with his run and carry and counter attack. Has neat skills by hand and foot and can play a variety of roles for his team. Has a good feel for the game.
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video?guid=591467
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Ex Sydney lad.....
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Says midfield but looks more like a medium forward to me
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Why are we getting old guys :banghead
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Gordon and Lloyd have probably been picked up as depth players and to play in the reserves IMHO.
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2013 National Draft: Pick 50 – Nathan Gordon
richmondfc.com.au
November 21, 2013 8:06 PM
“Nathan rebounded from the disappointment of being delisted by the Swans, with an outstanding season at state league level for North Adelaide,” said Richmond’s Recruiting Manager Francis Jackson.
“He split his time between midfield and forward, and excelled at both roles, with some high-possession games, coupled with goal hauls of six, five and three when playing forward.
“Nathan is a big, strong-bodied player, who is adept at winning clearances and distributing by hand.
“As a forward, he has a huge work ethic and possesses the ability to produce multiple leads, as well as being a constant threat in the air with his excellent contested-marking ability.
“We feel Nathan will add immediate quality to our senior list, either in the midfield or up forward.
“We know he will do everything in his power to make the most of his second opportunity.”
The 23-year-old spent three years with the Swans, playing two games in 2011, before being delisted at the end of the 2012 season.
He was thrust back into Richmond’s draft calculations following an eye-catching season as a goalkicking midfielder with North Adelaide in the SANFL.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-11-21/2013-national-draft-pick-50-nathan-gordon
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The obvious smokie of the draft, pinching myself he slid to 50 after a standout season ....will be belting the door down for a spot in the tiger front half,
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The obvious smokie of the draft, pinching myself he slid to 50 after a standout season ....will be belting the door down for a spot in the tiger front half,
YEP Im sure the reserves will be happy to have him in the side.
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Don't mind these types of picks at all especially at this range. 23-24 young but matured physically and mentally. Will know pretty quickly whether he'll be a 100+ gamer or not
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Really liked his highlights. Can kick some unkickable goals and sell some nice candy
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Nathan Gordon is hoping his time in the SANFL this year will help him have another crack at the AFL
Matt Turner
City North Messenger
September 24, 2013
LEE Spurr. Nick Duigan. Paul Puopolo. Steven Morris. Nathan Gordon?
North Adelaide Rooster Gordon is hoping to become the latest mature-age SANFL player to make the jump to the AFL at the end of the season.
The 23-year-old half-forward flanker delisted by Sydney last year was the only experienced SA-based player invited to attend the draft combine at Etihad Stadium from October 1-4.
It follows a self-described "inconsistent" season, in which he caught the eye in the early rounds with his dash and goal ability before his form dropped away when North slumped in the back half of the year.
Gordon says he moved to the SANFL to enhance his chances of an AFL return.
He has since kept an eye on the league's mature-age success stories.
Spurr (Central District to Fremantle), Duigan (Norwood to Carlton), Puopolo (Norwood to Hawthorn) and Morris (West Adelaide to Richmond).
"I look at them and say to myself 'if they can do it, I can'," Gordon says. "They got an opportunity and they're taking it.
"It just gives guys like me a bit of hope."
Gordon was on the Swans' list from 2010-12 but played just two senior games.
He was named an emergency nine times last year, only to be cut a week after Sydney won the flag.
"I was always waiting for an injury or I was waiting for a bit of luck but that luck or injury never came."
Gordon says Sydney-bound Roosters coach Josh Francou has been important to his development this year and he has enjoyed his time at Prospect.
And he is adamant he is better prepared if he gets another crack at the elite level.
"I'd be more mature as a person and a footballer.
"I was a little bit timid being young going into the Swans but now I know how hard it is to play senior footy and will do everything I can to get back."
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/nathan-gordon-is-hoping-his-time-in-the-sanfl-this-year-will-help-him-have-another-crack-at-the-afl/story-fnii03j6-1226726055190
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Got a few tricks has Gordo :shh
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Think BJ is actually FJ
Love how this article says he had a pretty average year yet Fine Eyes creamed the floor of the Gold Coast convention centre
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Pics:
This year at North Adelaide:
(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2013/09/24/1226726/054055-nathan-gordon.jpg) (http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/10/01/1226730/367725-982b95ec-29d8-11e3-8b19-50b18379ccf2.jpg)
And from his time at the Swans:
(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Media/Images/229547-tlsnewsportrait.jpg) (http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Nathan+Gordon+NAB+Cup+Rd+2+Sydney+v+North+WrTOPP7cgkEl.jpg)
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Former Swan seeking re-birth via SANFL
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
July 3, 2013 3:35 PM
NATHAN Gordon has the words of his former coach John Longmire ringing in his ears as he looks to return to the AFL system, 10 months after being delisted by the Sydney Swans.
"Don't be that player who left the system and thought to himself 'what if I did this, or what if I'd done that better'," Longmire used to tell his players.
It's a message that Gordon has been thinking a lot about lately as his push to be re-drafted as a mature-age player gathers momentum in the SANFL.
Gordon is considered by some recruiters to be the best state league player in the mix for this year's NAB AFL Draft, with his form for North Adelaide drawing interest.
The 23-year-old spent three years with the Swans before he was cut at the end of their 2012 premiership season, and he is determined to earn a second chance.
"It's definitely a long-term goal of mine," Gordon told AFL.com.au.
"I'm halfway through the year with North Adelaide and I have to focus on each game and playing my best footy.
"But every now and then you have a little think about getting back into the AFL. You can't really help it if that's where you want to be."
Gordon started this season as a midfielder but he has pushed into attack in recent weeks to cover for injured Adelaide-listed forward Lewis Johnston, kicking 13 goals in the last month.
His move to the SANFL has proven a wise choice after Swans assistant coach Stuart Dew helped open doors at North Adelaide, where former Port Adelaide midfielder Josh Francou is coach.
"I've heard a lot about players coming down here and looking to get re-drafted," Gordon said.
"I didn't really know what to expect, what the competition would be like and how I'd fit in coming from the NEAFL.
"I feel like I've had a reasonable year though, and I'm pretty comfortable in this competition I think."
A former NSW Scholarship holder, Gordon spent 2010 and 2011 on the Swans' rookie list, playing two games in 2011 before earning promotion to the senior list last season.
He was emergency nine times last year but couldn't earn a senior game and was delivered the bad news six days after the Swans' Grand Final win over Hawthorn.
"You can actually kind of see it coming," he said.
"You can see the type of players they're bringing in and there were a lot of players my size and my position.
"I walked out of there not knowing what to do and I had a week or two off, trying to get footy off my mind.
"That's when Stuart Dew called me and asked what I wanted to do.
"A couple of weeks after that I organised to see Josh Francou and (CEO) Greg Edwards at North Adelaide and we got that sorted.
"I was over here before Christmas."
Gordon's improvement with the Swans was steady, but ultimately there was no room for him on a talented list with deep midfield stocks.
If he gets another chance, he's determined not to let it slip.
"I think I'm in that position now and I'm saying to myself that I want to change my destiny because I think I've got a lot to offer."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-03/former-swan-seeking-rebirth
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Greg Edwards is Shane's dad for anyone who didnt know
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Greg :clapping
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The obvious smokie of the draft, pinching myself he slid to 50 after a standout season ....will be belting the door down for a spot in the tiger front half,
I'd dare say he won't but like I've said whatta I know ???
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Big Nate :clapping
Will be a 350+ game player
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fu8BMehnX8
Gordo drops the F bomb :clapping
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What year was Gordo drafted by swans and at what number?
Have a feeling will be an improvement on lonergan
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who knows hes a lovely size and it seems he has the hunger. hes not one ive looked at any one know what his skill set is like what his pace is like and how clean he is.and just how good his performances have been at north adelaide. anyone know where he finished in the na best and fairest and how he went in the sanfl equivalent. has anyone seen a bit of him play.
all i can say id good luck to him i hope he can make it.
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who knows hes a lovely size and it seems he has the hunger. hes not one ive looked at any one know what his skill set is like what his pace is like and how clean he is.and just how good his performances have been at north adelaide. anyone know where he finished in the na best and fairest and how he went in the sanfl equivalent. has anyone seen a bit of him play.
all i can say id good luck to him i hope he can make it.
Got a client whose son plays at Norwood, will be asking him for some info - even if it is second hand, its coming straight from a peer
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What year and lick was he originally drafted. Sydney don't get many wrong
Have a feeling will be an improvement on lonergan
oh cmon judge you would be an improvement on lonergan no disrespect intended. surely we want more than that from our recruits and our second pick in the nd.
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What year and lick was he originally drafted. Sydney don't get many wrong
Have a feeling will be an improvement on lonergan
oh cmon judge you would be an improvement on lonergan no disrespect intended. surely we want more than that from our recruits and our second pick in the nd.
seeing the 'stuff' interview again jogged my memory (had no idea who he was untill that). i think he goes alright :thumbsup
If he canwin the spot of grigg that's more than enough for me for a second national draft selection
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Former NSW scholarship player for us. High energy player, hardworking, great leap, strong hands. When he played for our reserves he alternated as a half-forward and in the midfield. In the few senior AFL games he played he was used as a defensive small forward.
Went to the SANFL with North Adelaide this year and had a real purple patch in the middle of the year when he was asked to play as a tall forward in the absence of Lewis Johnston and kicked big bags (a 7-goal and a 5-goal haul IIRC). Form tapered off when he returned to the midfield but finished the season off strongly.
His weaknesses are he tends to give away a fair share of head high free kicks, mainly from going into the the contest too eagerly and some of his disposal can be quite ordinary. I'm glad he has received another opportunity to prove himself at the highest level because I felt, and many of my fellow posters also felt, that he was harshly delisted last year (maybe some off-field issues were involved who knows?)
I think he will offer your team another option who can rotate through the midfield and half forward areas. Don't expect him to kick too many goals (his SANFL goal record did surprise me) but he'll give full effort in whatever role is asked of him.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/welcome-to-richmond-nathan-gordon-pick-50.1041588/#post-31019250
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Personally would have expected Lloyd to go first of the 2 but a good get. Would have preferred Templeton but thems the breaks. Can't believe no one took that kid lol.
Quick and offered some x-factor at SANFL level. Works his backside off going the other way and is ready now. We needed to add some speed and skill to our half-forward line in the absence of White. With some solid development he should be a rather large upgrade on White.
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Greg Edwards is Shane's dad for anyone who didnt know
Yeah good bloke and has good eye for footy talent ;D
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Not sure. Hope he turns out to be a brilliant pick
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Greg Edwards is Shane's dad for anyone who didnt know
Yeah good bloke and has good eye for footy talent ;D
What does he think of his son's talents? :shh
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Greg Edwards is Shane's dad for anyone who didnt know
Yeah good bloke and has good eye for footy talent ;D
What does he think of his son's talents? :shh
:lol
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Why are we getting old guys :banghead
stuff, I must be a relic... :o
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pretty sure there was talk we were looking at this bloke last year.
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Looks like they didn't rate the youth in this draft after the first round. Gordan looks like he will be a solid depth player who could slot in the team immediately. Could be like Morris and make an immediate impact but I think he was picked more to help our seconds team and to help maintain pressure for positions in the team. Can't see this bloke becoming a regular midfielder for the team but love to be proven wrong.
Also seems FJ has identified the forward line as our NO 1 weakness and small/mid sized forwards the priority this draft.
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Drafting a player who played 2 afl games and was then delisted as recently as last yeah. Whoa! That Frannie Jackson is a dynamo
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Nipper :cheers :clapping
Also seems FJ has identified the forward line as our NO 1 weakness and small/mid sized forwards the priority this draft.
FJ hasn't identified FA
Blair Hartley is list manager, that's his job
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At 23 years old and with the experience to date he would have to be a walk up round round one player otherwise why would we draft him. This guy has not been selected as a "has potential", "project player", "development player", etc.... Must play round one or why select him?
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At 23 years old and with the experience to date he would have to be a walk up round round one player otherwise why would we draft him. This guy has not been selected as a "has potential", "project player", "development player", etc.... Must play round one or why select him?
Exactly all picks 50 should be a lay down misere for R1
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At 23 years old and with the experience to date he would have to be a walk up round round one player otherwise why would we draft him. This guy has not been selected as a "has potential", "project player", "development player", etc.... Must play round one or why select him?
Gordon > grigg :pray
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At 23 years old and with the experience to date he would have to be a walk up round round one player otherwise why would we draft him. This guy has not been selected as a "has potential", "project player", "development player", etc.... Must play round one or why select him?
Exactly all picks 50 should be a lay down misere for R1
Try not to be a dick for once Chuck, when do you think a 23 year old recruit should play mate???? In 3 years???? "All picks 50" that's what I said didn't I.......fool.
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Oh dear
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At 23 years old and with the experience to date he would have to be a walk up round round one player otherwise why would we draft him. This guy has not been selected as a "has potential", "project player", "development player", etc.... Must play round one or why select him?
Gordon > grigg :pray
True, but so am I and I'm not lining up Round 1. :shh
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In all seriousness though, Gordon is the most likely to play Round 1. He's good enough to. Whether we actually select him or he has to go through a VFL initiation first like Flossy I have no idea. Knights fitness may determine if he plays.
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Oh dear
Well FFS, his contributions to the forum are only ever sarcastic, it's become very repetitive and boring.
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oooooOOOOOooooooh WAT doesn't like SAAAARcaaasm ;)
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oooooOOOOOooooooh WAT doesn't like SAAAARcaaasm ;)
Stop it Owl.... ;D
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Gordon outs pressure on houli/king/foley/knights/sedwards/Jackson/king
This alone makes his selection ahead of 5Oth best. Bottom ager justification. Also keeps grigg. Newman. Etc. Out of he team, possibly
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The obvious smokie of the draft, pinching myself he slid to 50 after a standout season ....will be belting the door down for a spot in the tiger front half,
Where are you going to play O'Hanlon?
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The obvious smokie of the draft, pinching myself he slid to 50 after a standout season ....will be belting the door down for a spot in the tiger front half,
Where are you going to play O'Hanlon?
Same place he already is. Coburg. :lol
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The obvious smokie of the draft, pinching myself he slid to 50 after a standout season ....will be belting the door down for a spot in the tiger front half,
Where are you going to play O'Hanlon?
With the like of Gordon / Lloyd / Newman / Griffiths / Elton / AaronEdwards dominating, roaring the team up the vfl table, young ohanlon will be required to push up to the wing. Keeping grigg company
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The obvious smokie of the draft, pinching myself he slid to 50 after a standout season ....will be belting the door down for a spot in the tiger front half,
Where are you going to play O'Hanlon?
Same place he already is. Coburg. :lol
O'Hanlon Coburg? Excuse me, leg like a canon, eye like a dead fish and hands like a steel trap its like whoah - treasure trove of talent locked up at Tigerland.
So Bojo, where or how do we squeeze O'Hanlon in to that forward line?
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The obvious smokie of the draft, pinching myself he slid to 50 after a standout season ....will be belting the door down for a spot in the tiger front half,
Where are you going to play O'Hanlon?
Same place he already is. Coburg. :lol
O'Hanlon Coburg? Excuse me, leg like a canon, eye like a dead fish and hands like a steel trap its like whoah - treasure trove of talent locked up at Tigerland.
So Bojo, where or how do we squeeze O'Hanlon in to that forward line?
:lol unfortunately that's not enough to get a game at Tigerland these days. Like woahhhhh :shh
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The obvious smokie of the draft, pinching myself he slid to 50 after a standout season ....will be belting the door down for a spot in the tiger front half,
Where are you going to play O'Hanlon?
Same place he already is. Coburg. :lol
O'Hanlon Coburg? Excuse me, leg like a canon, eye like a dead fish and hands like a steel trap its like whoah - treasure trove of talent locked up at Tigerland.
So Bojo, where or how do we squeeze O'Hanlon in to that forward line?
Locked
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Loaded
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If he can push out either Grigg, Shane Edwards or King, then it was a good strategic list pick!
But seems like Hardwick loves those three players, so may not be them :banghead
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im still pinching a loaf over this one victor
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im still pinching a loaf over this one victor
:ROTFL
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At 23 years old and with the experience to date he would have to be a walk up round round one player otherwise why would we draft him. This guy has not been selected as a "has potential", "project player", "development player", etc.... Must play round one or why select him?
Exactly all picks 50 should be a lay down misere for R1
HMM is that sarcasm i detect???? , you know what your right sarcasm and all. all 24 yo picks no matter where they are taken should be a lay down misere to play.
geez here i was thinking you recruit mature players mainly because they are ready to go.
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I have it from a reliable source that a couple years (no more than three) development in the Richmond reserves and this guy will be ready to go
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Couple o weeks
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I have it from a reliable source that a couple years (no more than three) development in the Richmond reserves and this guy will be ready to go
Funny. My source said similar except he said 4 years max.
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Mature recruits dont necessarily have to slot straight in. They can develop further in the twos or just increase competition for spots. It might take an injury or form slump to a regular player for Gordon to get his chance, but that doesnt mean he's been a wasted pick.
Its not Round 1 or fail for mature recruits.
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Mature recruits dont necessarily have to slot straight in. They can develop further in the twos or just increase competition for spots. It might take an injury or form slump to a regular player for Gordon to get his chance, but that doesnt mean he's been a wasted pick.
Its not Round 1 or fail for mature recruits.
Yes it is. FFS. In fact this is already a fail. :banghead
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Honesrky last time say it
If gordo goes into.a pack
Instead of skirting out the out side and running in a forwards k
Direction regardless who's wins the ball
... ala griggg
Massive win for rfc
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Mature recruits dont necessarily have to slot straight in. They can develop further in the twos or just increase competition for spots. It might take an injury or form slump to a regular player for Gordon to get his chance, but that doesnt mean he's been a wasted pick.
Its not Round 1 or fail for mature recruits.
Yes it is. FFS. In fact this is already a fail. :banghead
Atm
The weakness of the 22: Foley Jackson s Edwards houli etc.
If gorodo forces only one out - or makes em.play. better to keep spot
Bes more than worth p50
To clarify grigg is too squob-like
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Should be ready to go and hitting his straps by 40... :whistle
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I don't understand why jacko is still a weakness in the 22..12 months ago I would have agreed with you,but certainly not now .In 2013 he turned his form around completely.That was reflected in his B&F win.
Foley still has question marks I agree.
And if its Tich Edwards you are refering to ,yes I think he also need to get on his bike in 2014
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Mature recruits dont necessarily have to slot straight in. They can develop further in the twos or just increase competition for spots. It might take an injury or form slump to a regular player for Gordon to get his chance, but that doesnt mean he's been a wasted pick.
Its not Round 1 or fail for mature recruits.
Really?????? Just like Podsiadly and old mate from Freo, honestly, ask yourself why we would recruit a player of 23 years old if he wasn't going to be a walk up start. No development or backup player crap. He either plays round one and more or we have wasted a pick IMO.
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lmao
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Dan Currie says hi.
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Mature recruits dont necessarily have to slot straight in. They can develop further in the twos or just increase competition for spots. It might take an injury or form slump to a regular player for Gordon to get his chance, but that doesnt mean he's been a wasted pick.
Its not Round 1 or fail for mature recruits.
Really?????? Just like Podsiadly and old mate from Freo, honestly, ask yourself why we would recruit a player of 23 years old if he wasn't going to be a walk up start. No development or backup player crap. He either plays round one and more or we have wasted a pick IMO.
Say Foley's form has been average for the first three rounds and he gets dropped for Gordon who has performed well for RFC 2s. Gordon comes in plays his role well and keeps his spot for the remainder of the year, in what is a strong and competitive midfield. You believe that irrespective of this he is already a wasted pick because he didnt play round 1, right? If so, we'l agree to disagree.
If not, then admit that 'round 1 or fail' is a stupid concept and it's clearly not that black and white.
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Dan Currie says hi.
Don't be ridiculous. He was 25 not 23. Stupid comparison. :banghead
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Dan Currie says hi.
Don't be ridiculous. He was 25 not 23. Stupid comparison. :banghead
:lol
To split hairs I just looked up his birthday. Was 23 when drafted, currently 24 ;D
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Dan Currie says hi.
Don't be ridiculous. He was 25 not 23. Stupid comparison. :banghead
:lol
To split hairs I just looked up his birthday. Was 23 when drafted, currently 24 ;D
Whatever. stuff off and leave me alone. :banghead :banghead
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:lol
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:lol :cheers
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:lol :cheers
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FLASH
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Nathan Gordon on the road again as he shifts from Roosters to Richmond
Reece Homfray
From: Sunday Mail (SA)
November 23, 2013 10:41PM
IT'S a good thing Nathan Gordon travels lightly.
Football's free spirit had one last look around Prospect Oval on Saturday before flying to Melbourne to meet his new teammates at Richmond which will be his third club in three states in three years.
"I've got to pack up again today but I'm used to that, I've been out of home since I was 18 and at the Swans," he said.
"It's just what I've got to do and it's the lifestyle I chose.
"I don't have much here, just clothes and that but we'll get the bed and TV across in the car later in the week.
"For now we'll just get over there and start training."
Gordon was only in Adelaide for one season where he played every game including the SANFL grand final with the Roosters.
"I love Adelaide. I was really getting comfortable here, it was a big change from Sydney but you've got to do what you've got to do," he said.
As much as he liked the place, he never planned to be here long term.
After being delisted by Sydney in 2012 after two AFL games in three years, Gordon took advice from Swans assistant coach Stuart Dew who sent him to Adelaide to resurrect his career.
"In the back of my head that was the plan but I didn't want to come here and be arrogant about it," he said.
Nathan Gordon, who has been drafted to Richmond, takes one last look around Prospect.
"I just wanted to come down and play some good footy, that happened and I was lucky enough to get picked up."
Like most draftees and their new club, Gordon spoke to Richmond at the draft combine but was given no indication how keen they were.
The Tigers, it was proved, were very keen, swooping on Gordon with their second pick in the national draft to grab him at No. 50 on Thursday night.
"I was pretty excited but I knew the rookie draft was a week later so I was getting ready to wait for that," he said.
"After a few clubs skipped me they (Richmond) jumped at the opportunity. I was happy to go anywhere, there was a possibility my new home was in Melbourne and I was happy to go to Richmond.
"I think I can fit in there and hopefully play some AFL next year."
The annual AFL draft in the most part went off as expected last night with just a couple of surprize picks thrown in for good measure - to take us through a few of the big winners from last night we're joined by the Herald Sun's Jon Ralph.
At his electrifying best, Gordon was one of the SANFL's most exciting players this season.
At 188cm he plays as a dangerous midfielder who goes forward, can take an overhead mark and kick a goal from 50m no worries.
"Hopefully it will be (a) similar (role) to North Adelaide, I'll be playing a lot forward and go into the midfield," he said.
"I will do a lot of work in the gym, that's one of my goals for this pre-season."
Having been given his second chance at the elite level, Gordon is determined not to let it slip.
"I'm more mature as a footballer, I've got a lot more knowledge and I take a lot of advice from the Swans, here (North Adelaide) and people along the way.
"A lot of people who heard I got picked up the second time have said to me 'don't waste it, not many people get a second chance'.
"And that's what I've got and I'm so grateful for Richmond giving me that chance so I'll make the most of it."
NATHAN GORDON
From: North Adelaide
Junior club: East Coast Eagles (NSW)
Drafted: Richmond (pick No. 50)
Position: Midfielder/forward
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/nathan-gordon-on-the-road-again-as-he-shifts-from-roosters-to-richmond/story-fndv8t7m-1226766879804#mm-breached
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Was on Essendon's radar at 55 and Roosy wanted him at 57
Unlucky boys ;D
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Was on Essendon's radar at 55 and Roosy wanted him at 57
Unlucky boys ;D
I have on impeccable authority (OER forums) that we could have rookied him :shh
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Was on Essendon's radar at 55 and Roosy wanted him at 57
Unlucky boys ;D
:lol
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Was on Essendon's radar at 55 and Roosy wanted him at 57
Unlucky boys ;D
I have on impeccable authority (OER forums) that we could have rookied him :shh
My ultra impeccable sources say you're wrong!
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VIDEO: Nathan Gordon interview ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-11-25/pick-50-nathan-gordon
Summary:
* I was stoked that Richmond called my name out. It’s amazing to get another crack at it; a second chance; and I’m so grateful that Richmond gave me the opportunity.
* I knew it was a good comp. there [i.e. SANFL] and that was my stepping stone back into the AFL. I adapted pretty well, I was pretty comfortable, and I played some really good footy down there.
* Hopefully, an exciting player, playing off half-forward working into the midfield using my endurance base and taking some good marks up the ground, taking some plays down forward and hopefully kicking a few goals.
* I just can’t wait for the next couple of weeks so I can start training then enjoy the Christmas break and get back for some more hard work. I won’t make mistakes that I did in the past and I’ll make sure I get on top of everything and give myself the best chance of playing AFL footy for Richmond. I’m just going to have a crack at the pre-season and work as hard as I can. My first goal is to play the pre-season series, hopefully play well, earn the trust of some players and coaches, and the rest can take care of itself. At the moment, I’ve just got to work hard and earn my respect here.
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:thumbsup
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I love pre season, it's a bit like an election campaign - full of yet to be broken promises...
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Was on Essendon's radar at 55 and Roosy wanted him at 57
Unlucky boys ;D
Wrong wrong wrong
Would have been there 4t round rookie draft
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sack grigg
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while i might argue strongly about where we took him and only taking one kid more to the point .
i also argue strongly more state league players like gordon should be given a go. theres a kid over here ryan lester - smith. i reckon he will get rookied. clever forward whos only 21?? and kicked heaps of goals in the wafl.they arent hard to find if you look. i know freo and port are intersted in this kid and rightly so hes probably been just as impressive as gordon as a forward but clubs will wait for the rookie draft.
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Was on Essendon's radar at 55 and Roosy wanted him at 57
Unlucky boys ;D
thats hilarious jayden hunt was clearly a special at 57. and fantasia at essendon well there was some talk he was going there before the draft, these clubs showwed some balls and didnt take em early.
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Hunt and fantasia would have been there in the rookie draft
If they had balls they should have waited
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Hunt and fantasia would have been there in the rookie draft
If they had balls they should have waited
Exactly. Who the hell is Hunt? But apparently that's a master stroke taking him National Draft. Like the plethora of other genius moves the Dees have made at the draft table. :lol
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Fantasia is about 60kgs wringing wet so I can see why some think the Dons have a steal at pick 55
My god, imaging taking a Robbie Hicks type with a 3rd rounder sheesh
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BF's pre-draft profiles on Gordon:
Gordon is a former Sydney Swan rookie who has hit back this season and has been excellent in the SANFL. He’s dominated through the midfield and up forward at various stages this season. Up forward he’s presented as a strong marking target with his work 1v1, in the air and on the lead excellent. He’s also got above average ability at ground level for his height and has been a solid goalkicking threat. While through the midfield he’s winning a combination of his own ball and uncontested ball which is pleasing. He’s a good size and with the improvement he has shown that he can be someone who could play as a rotational midfielder who can also do damage up forward he’s a pretty natural fit for a team looking for an immediate player.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2013-phantom-draft.983436/
Had a really good year coming back from Swans and showed he is up to another go. His best is good enough to see him go as a HF type who can role into the middle but I still think based on what I saw some improvement in defensive side is warranted.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/snoop-dog-2013-phantom-draft.1039188/
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Gordon has the goods
richmondfc.com.au
December 3, 2013
South Australian State Talent Manager Brenton Phillips believes new Richmond recruit Nathan Gordon is well-equipped to succeed in his second crack at AFL football.
“He’s an accumulator of possessions and it’s pretty hard to teach people how to accumulate possessions. He’s been able to do that quite nicely over the course of the year.”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-12-03/gordon-has-the-goods
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Mature recruits dont necessarily have to slot straight in. They can develop further in the twos or just increase competition for spots. It might take an injury or form slump to a regular player for Gordon to get his chance, but that doesnt mean he's been a wasted pick.
Its not Round 1 or fail for mature recruits.
Really?????? Just like Podsiadly and old mate from Freo, honestly, ask yourself why we would recruit a player of 23 years old if he wasn't going to be a walk up start. No development or backup player crap. He either plays round one and more or we have wasted a pick IMO.
Say Foley's form has been average for the first three rounds and he gets dropped for Gordon who has performed well for RFC 2s. Gordon comes in plays his role well and keeps his spot for the remainder of the year, in what is a strong and competitive midfield. You believe that irrespective of this he is already a wasted pick because he didnt play round 1, right? If so, we'l agree to disagree.
If not, then admit that 'round 1 or fail' is a stupid concept and it's clearly not that black and white.
oh cmon will. why so literal.
of course we have taken him because hes ready to play. weather thats rnd 1 or rnd 5 hes expected to make an impact and perform a role. big bodied mature and pick 50 which happened to be our second pick. take the literal nonsense out of it and he is expected to play and make a decent contribution. why are we already making excuses for these blokes.
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still lol at the thread. there is no excuses on the planet that can excuse us taking just one 18 yr old for the entire trade and nd period. seems everyone wants to pretend this did not happen.
its a differing opinion to the defenders of all things richmond, but with just picks 12 50 and 66, at the very least one of of 50 or 66 should have been used on a kid logically pick 50 imo. if it was me id have used both 50 and 66 on kids and taken one of the mature blokes at pick 78. i can say this because im absolutely certain both would have been available here.
im going to say it one more time as a player and a state league pick i have no problem with either gordon or or lloyd. im all for taking mature players to fill needs its where we take em and how we balance out our picks thats important. i remain adamant though both gordon and lloyd would have been available later nd or in the rookie draft, and there was kids at 18 with plenty of potential still there at 18.
i still believe our footy dept still regularly takes players way too early. we clearly had a lot of mature players in our sights but why at pick 50. apparently every mature player we took was about to be snaffled up its hilarious, but what actually transpired suggests overwhelmingly otherwise.
apart from us only the wb and i say only the western bulldogs took a mature player with a live nd pick inside the top 50. they took a bloke who actually banged the door down whos skills set is something most of our players dream about. he warranted pick 42. no other club apart from the rfc was interested in taking a mature player with a live pick in the nd.
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'No complaints from me' - The Snore post draft.
:lol
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Personally I'd prefer them to take best available and not discriminate against age. ::)
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Personally I'd prefer them to take best available and not discriminate against age. ::)
I second that!
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still lol at the thread. there is no excuses on the planet that can excuse us taking just one 18 yr old for the entire trade and nd period. seems everyone wants to pretend this did not happen.
I don't think so, most people probably agree with you on this point, I do.
However most people get on with life, as individuals supporting a sport side the only recourse we have is not supporting the club and not buying memberships.
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still lol at the thread. there is no excuses on the planet that can excuse us taking just one 18 yr old for the entire trade and nd period. seems everyone wants to pretend this did not happen.
its a differing opinion to the defenders of all things richmond, but with just picks 12 50 and 66, at the very least one of of 50 or 66 should have been used on a kid logically pick 50 imo. if it was me id have used both 50 and 66 on kids and taken one of the mature blokes at pick 78. i can say this because im absolutely certain both would have been available here.
im going to say it one more time as a player and a state league pick i have no problem with either gordon or or lloyd. im all for taking mature players to fill needs its where we take em and how we balance out our picks thats important. i remain adamant though both gordon and lloyd would have been available later nd or in the rookie draft, and there was kids at 18 with plenty of potential still there at 18.
i still believe our footy dept still regularly takes players way too early. we clearly had a lot of mature players in our sights but why at pick 50. apparently every mature player we took was about to be snaffled up its hilarious, but what actually transpired suggests overwhelmingly otherwise.
apart from us only the wb and i say only the western bulldogs took a mature player with a live nd pick inside the top 50. they took a bloke who actually banged the door down whos skills set is something most of our players dream about. he warranted pick 42. no other club apart from the rfc was interested in taking a mature player with a live pick in the nd.
Taking the 18 yoa means in all likely hood Gordon would have Ben unavailable at our third pick.
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Not sure claw watches SANFL. Gordon had more impressive games than Fuller.
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Not sure claw watches SANFL. Gordon had more impressive games than Fuller.
He's too busy watch oakliegh religiously
And yet was unaware of where aarnot played
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still lol at the thread. there is no excuses on the planet that can excuse us taking just one 18 yr old for the entire trade and nd period. seems everyone wants to pretend this did not happen.
I don't think so, most people probably agree with you on this point, I do.
However most people get on with life, as individuals supporting a sport side the only recourse we have is not supporting the club and not buying memberships.
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Good luck to Gordo in his Tiger debut on Saturday.
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Yes good luck mate and well done, your going to need to turn one on, first game or not.. :thumbsup
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The Commisioner
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The Commisioner
Good nickname Ox!
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Good luck Gordo, can play a bit this kid :shh
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still lol at the thread. there is no excuses on the planet that can excuse us taking just one 18 yr old for the entire trade and nd period. seems everyone wants to pretend this did not happen.
I don't think so, most people probably agree with you on this point, I do.
However most people get on with life, as individuals supporting a sport side the only recourse we have is not supporting the club and not buying memberships.
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i can tell ya going by this thread theres just you and me. no one else it seems is prepared to voice any displeasure with what they the club do on this topic. . if criticising them not getting on with things so be it. i will continue to voice my displeasure.
on recourses, well they are still badgering me to buy a membership it wont be happeneing this yr, and im loath to make my regular donations to the club as well. you see i am exercising my displeasure about several things and useing the only recorse of action i have.
as for supporting them well they get that every week regardless of weather im a member or not.
oh and good luck to gordon we got him because can make an impact now lets hope he does eh.
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Good luck Gordo, can play a bit this kid :shh
Just quietly very shrewd pickup by FJ
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Good luck Gordo, can play a bit this kid :shh
Just quietly very shrewd pickup by FJ
you mean hartley dont you.
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Good luck Gordo, can play a bit this kid :shh
Just quietly very shrewd pickup by FJ
you mean hartley dont you.
ND pick claw! think fJ
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Good luck Gordo, can play a bit this kid :shh
Just quietly very shrewd pickup by FJ
you mean hartley dont you.
ND pick claw! think fJ
disagree he would almost definately have been taken at pick 50 on hartleys recommendation, the same goes for lloyd. this is specifically one of hartleys roles at the club watch and target state leaugue and opposition players. jacksons responsibility is primarily juniors.
i suppose what im saying is just because we take a player in the nd does it mean its a jackson pick.
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Good luck Gordo, can play a bit this kid :shh
Just quietly very shrewd pickup by FJ
you mean hartley dont you.
ND pick claw! think fJ
disagree he would almost definately have been taken at pick 50 on hartleys recommendation, the same goes for lloyd. this is specifically one of hartleys roles at the club watch and target state leaugue and opposition players. jacksons responsibility is primarily juniors.
i suppose what im saying is just because we take a player in the nd does it mean its a jackson pick.
Would normally agree , but I guess I was being a smart arse as I was at a function recently and Blair said fJ had been tracking Nipper Gordon for a couple of years
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COME ON MATE, DON'T REVEAL THAT INFO OR YOU RUIN It FOR THE REST OF US.
WHAT ARE WE DEALING WITH
:lol
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Good luck Gordo, can play a bit this kid :shh
Just quietly very shrewd pickup by FJ
you mean hartley dont you.
ND pick claw! think fJ
disagree he would almost definately have been taken at pick 50 on hartleys recommendation, the same goes for lloyd. this is specifically one of hartleys roles at the club watch and target state leaugue and opposition players. jacksons responsibility is primarily juniors.
i suppose what im saying is just because we take a player in the nd does it mean its a jackson pick.
Would normally agree , but I guess I was being a smart arse as I was at a function recently and Blair said fJ had been tracking Nipper Gordon for a couple of years
if true fair enough, i know fj was very keen on both hislop and thompson as well so obviously the roles do cross over at times. lets hope gordon turns out a little better than those two eh.
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Personally I'd prefer them to take best available and not discriminate against age. ::)
yeah me too ;)
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Not sure claw watches SANFL. Gordon had more impressive games than Fuller.
disagree but hey we all have differing opinions. i know which one is a mile in front when it comes to basic skills.
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still lol at the thread. there is no excuses on the planet that can excuse us taking just one 18 yr old for the entire trade and nd period. seems everyone wants to pretend this did not happen.
its a differing opinion to the defenders of all things richmond, but with just picks 12 50 and 66, at the very least one of of 50 or 66 should have been used on a kid logically pick 50 imo. if it was me id have used both 50 and 66 on kids and taken one of the mature blokes at pick 78. i can say this because im absolutely certain both would have been available here.
im going to say it one more time as a player and a state league pick i have no problem with either gordon or or lloyd. im all for taking mature players to fill needs its where we take em and how we balance out our picks thats important. i remain adamant though both gordon and lloyd would have been available later nd or in the rookie draft, and there was kids at 18 with plenty of potential still there at 18.
i still believe our footy dept still regularly takes players way too early. we clearly had a lot of mature players in our sights but why at pick 50. apparently every mature player we took was about to be snaffled up its hilarious, but what actually transpired suggests overwhelmingly otherwise.
apart from us only the wb and i say only the western bulldogs took a mature player with a live nd pick inside the top 50. they took a bloke who actually banged the door down whos skills set is something most of our players dream about. he warranted pick 42. no other club apart from the rfc was interested in taking a mature player with a live pick in the nd.
Taking the 18 yoa means in all likely hood Gordon would have Ben unavailable at our third pick.
it like talking with a child. we took gordon with our third rnd pick there is little doubt he would have lasted until the rookie draft.
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Not sure claw watches SANFL. Gordon had more impressive games than Fuller.
He's too busy watch oakliegh religiously
And yet was unaware of where aarnot played
oh dear its easy to see who the children are. how long are you going to live of other peoples typos. you can do better than that i hope.
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we took gordon with our third rnd pick there is little doubt he would have lasted until the rookie draft.
We took the players where we did that WE wanted. Not who others wanted.
We're not privvy to who others have on their list. :P
Hartley especially has a track record most would envy. Earned credit.
Let's see how Nat G goes..
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we took gordon with our third rnd pick there is little doubt he would have lasted until the rookie draft.
We took the players where we did that WE wanted. Not who others wanted.
We're not privvy to who others have on their list. :P
Hartley especially has a track record most would envy. Earned credit.
Let's see how Nat G goes..
can you tell me who are the players hartley has taken for us that has others green with envy. lets not give him credit for gordon though, i reckon taz tiger will take issue with that.
are any of the players taken by hartley better than goddard and chapman both of whom cost nothing. are we allowed to include the many failed mature picks since blair has been there or are they fjs selections when they fail lol.
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are any of the players taken by hartley better than goddard and chapman both of whom cost nothing. are we allowed to include the many failed mature picks since blair has been there or are they fjs selections when they fail lol.
Goddard cost 'nothing'. Sorry but I can't take you seriously with that comment.
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Cost something n terms of salary cap
Cost next to nothing in terms of draft picks/trading
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The Commisioner
Yessss :clapping
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Why don't we just call him a stuffing spud and be done with it. :shh
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Why don't we just call him a stuffing spud and be done with it. :shh
May as well get in now before the rush :shh
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If he keeps a Grigg or petard type out of the side he worth his weight in gold
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are any of the players taken by hartley better than goddard and chapman both of whom cost nothing. are we allowed to include the many failed mature picks since blair has been there or are they fjs selections when they fail lol.
You can't just use the cost of those players in draft picks though Claw. There is an impact in list management as well and in the case of these 2 guys they would be on fair coin, Goddard especially. Maybe we didn't have the room in our cap over the period they were asking so we looked at different options. To judge the decision fairly and correctly you at least need to be in possession of all the facts, not just apply the subset you know of.
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Why wouldn't we have room in our cap? We need Craig Cameron back to sort this mess out.
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:lol
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are any of the players taken by hartley better than goddard and chapman both of whom cost nothing. are we allowed to include the many failed mature picks since blair has been there or are they fjs selections when they fail lol.
You can't just use the cost of those players in draft picks though Claw. There is an impact in list management as well and in the case of these 2 guys they would be on fair coin, Goddard especially. Maybe we didn't have the room in our cap over the period they were asking so we looked at different options. To judge the decision fairly and correctly you at least need to be in possession of all the facts, not just apply the subset you know of.
Throw in the $$$ they would have wanted. Clubs must make a call on whether they are prepared to offer as much or more than the Bombers did or simply determine whether they are worth the coin they (the player) is after. It's not solely about cap room but also whether as a club you are prepared to outlay the coin. Perhaps in this case we simply dint' think the players were worth what the Bombers are reportedly paying them
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Gordon deserves a chance. I also want to see Anthony Miles in the team. He had an exceptional preseason campaign.
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Claw, I'm sure the club is very greatful for the support you give them. Even if you don't buy a membership or attend games.
I don't blame you for not buying a membership either. Must have been a hard few years watching the club you love to pot rise steadily up the ladder and cement themselves off-field. Kind of makes all your spiteful rants seem pretty stupid I guess.
Ah well, hopefully some more misery just around the corner for ya champ. Keep fighting the good fight! :thumbsup
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Nathan Gordon gets presented his Richmond jumper from Paul Broderick ...
https://vine.co/v/MinpHVXpIHd
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The only positive at this point in time.
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Has a clear position in our best 18 based on today. Miles should also get a game but it will be interesting to see if Hardwick continues playing his favorites.
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Good on him, sparked us and embarrassed a lot of his team mates with his gut running.
Whats the bet he'll be dropped ahead of dimmas pets
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il fair dinkum laugh my arse off if he gets dropped.
no way he will be
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Played very well and should get better as the weeks roll on.
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Played very well and should get better as the weeks roll on.
Agree with this
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Will get dropped for Deledio whilst idiot Hardwick persists with pet pootrucks like Grigg, Newman & Edwards.
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Has a clear position in our best 18 based on today. Miles should also get a game but it will be interesting to see if Hardwick continues playing his favorites.
Miles can't be picked. He is still a rookie!
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Has a clear position in our best 18 based on today. Miles should also get a game but it will be interesting to see if Hardwick continues playing his favorites.
Miles can't be picked. He is still a rookie!
then they should find a way to put him on the senior list. dont care how they do it as long as they do it. Both have positions in the first 18 based on their performances so far.
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Did more good things than poor
Pity a few of his more experienced coaches favourites cannot say the same thing
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Has a clear position in our best 18 based on today. Miles should also get a game but it will be interesting to see if Hardwick continues playing his favorites.
Miles can't be picked. He is still a rookie!
then they should find a way to put him on the senior list. dont care how they do it as long as they do it. Both have positions in the first 18 based on their performances so far.
Only way is if you go and knee cap one of the guys you don't want in the team. :whistle
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Has a clear position in our best 18 based on today. Miles should also get a game but it will be interesting to see if Hardwick continues playing his favorites.
Miles can't be picked. He is still a rookie!
then they should find a way to put him on the senior list. dont care how they do it as long as they do it. Both have positions in the first 18 based on their performances so far.
Send Grigg's address & 50k to Jeff Gillooly.
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Flesh Gordon was very good and should be a permanent member in the team. :clapping
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he had a good debut and looks at this stage to be a decent pick good on him. as a 24 yo id say there should have been some expectation that he would make a decent contribution.
good game or bad i would still argue he would have lasted to the rookie draft.
im still adamant somehow we needed to take more kids and balance our trade/draft periods out.
i hope they give lloyd a game as well got to be a better option as a sml forward than jake king. hes also 24 and i would expect him to be able to make a decent contribution.
i will say it again with some sort of longer term view in mind, we should have gone IF POSSIBLE and ive said this right throughout something like this.
trade period
chapman f/a
laidler f/a
longer and pick 25 for pick 12 and 50.
nd
25 dunston
32 hewitt
64 marsh
78 templeton
rookies of which im honest enough to say i had none in mind. what i did argue it was in the rookie draft where we take mature players if we take em.
miles
gordon
lloyd.
thomas
i put gordon and lloyd here because imo it was clear there was every chance they would last till the rookie draft.
i argued for this sort of scenario and several similar scenarios at the time. it was not going to be too hard to do it was only a matter of tweaking things a little.
it would have given us 5 juniors and 4 or 5 mature types.
but apparently after pick 12 there was no good juniors available and we didnt need to keep an eye on the longer term. i wonder if we miss the 8 this yr if people will still hold that view.
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I liked Luke Dunstan, I think Gerks also liked Dunstan for our first pick but they took Lennon instead. Hopefully Lennon comes through but St Kilda looked to have picked up a real nice player in Dunstan.
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I forgot about Lennon. Will probably fester in the twos for a couple years.
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I liked Luke Dunstan, I think Gerks also liked Dunstan for our first pick but they took Lennon instead. Hopefully Lennon comes through but St Kilda looked to have picked up a real nice player in Dunstan.
I liked Dunstan too. Posted in one of the draft threads..... :thumbsup
I didn't think we needed anymore pretty footballers that only want to work one way. :lol
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I forgot about Lennon. Will probably fester in the twos for a couple years.
We need to play the youth and give them a go. The seniors are not performing so why not give the kid a go instead of King?
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I forgot about Lennon. Will probably fester in the twos for a couple years.
We need to play the youth and give them a go. The seniors are not performing so why not give the kid a go instead of King?
Because the "seniors" are favourites and Dimma doesn't drop his favourites
I've given up hoping for kids who deserve a chance being given a chance :-\
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:yep unfortunately
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Flesh Gordon was very good and should be a permanent member in the team. :clapping
will be dropped. Too good for a first gamer. :shh
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I forgot about Lennon. Will probably fester in the twos for a couple years.
We need to play the youth and give them a go. The seniors are not performing so why not give the kid a go instead of King?
because then we might lose. Oh wait.
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Dimma the pollie
Short term players for short term goals
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It's beginning to look a lot like Wallace....
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It's beginning to look a lot like Wallace....
lmao at beginning. :lol
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and spudley
once again rfc have been delusional and overrated our list
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One of the few who showed something yesterday
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as a sub did he show more than matty white?.....not yet anyway
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Gordon has a better all round game that Matt White and in time I think he will become a good player and certainly a better player than Matty White who basically only had 1 good season in about 8 at Richmond.
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Gordon has a better all round game that Matt White and in time I think he will become a good player and certainly a better player than Matty White who basically only had 1 good season in about 8 at Richmond.
Well said. In Matt Whites defense, I don't think he was given enough opportunity to develop his game in previous years. The sub gave him that opportunity to be an impact player.
Go Flesh Gordon!
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If vlastuin wasn't very brave, flash would have Likly only been given ten mins
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If vlastuin wasn't very brave, flash would have Likly only been given ten mins
and then dropped for Deledio next week
He still might be..
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I remember seeing a missed shot at goal from 20 metres in the last 50 seconds and was thinking it was Edwards, but was in fact Gordon who muffed it.
Just gone back and looked at the replay after the Gia goal. We got a contested ball at HB where Vickery, after an assist from Astbury, handballed to Gordon who handballed to Grimes who handballed to Chaplin who kicked to TV who flicked it over to Gordon, who had also kept running.
He kicked to Jackson in the guts who gave it to Houli who kicked to Jack but it fell well short and Griffith tapped it to Jack who gave a great handball to Edwards who gave the little give to Gordon who muffed it from 20 out under pressure.
Bad luck for the guy to miss the sealer and maybe he should have kicked it, but when you look at an effort where he ran full bore from HB to FF and was involved three times, you've got to give a little leeway and at least congratulate the effort.
Bad luck son but keep hammering away.
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Ate the frog to eat the fly shy of why did the women at the fly
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I remember seeing a missed shot at goal from 20 metres in the last 50 seconds and was thinking it was Edwards, but was in fact Gordon who muffed it.
Just gone back and looked at the replay after the Gia goal. We got a contested ball at HB where Vickery, after an assist from Astbury, handballed to Gordon who handballed to Grimes who handballed to Chaplin who kicked to TV who flicked it over to Gordon, who had also kept running.
He kicked to Jackson in the guts who gave it to Houli who kicked to Jack but it fell well short and Griffith tapped it to Jack who gave a great handball to Edwards who gave the little give to Gordon who muffed it from 20 out under pressure.
Bad luck for the guy to miss the sealer and maybe he should have kicked it, but when you look at an effort where he ran full bore from HB to FF and was involved three times, you've got to give a little leeway and at least congratulate the effort.
Bad luck son but keep hammering away.
Good summary, I have 2 criticsms:
firstly, Gordan should have gone long instead of kicking it into the corridor sideways.
secondly, having gone into the corridor, and it finding its way to Houli - he had 2 fwds coming at him and JR8 a bit further back...Griff was in the clear (as from memory was Ty - I think around the 50 m arc). He should have kicked it to Griff and maybe he meant to, but it went over Griff's head and all Griff could do was tap to JR8 - but he should have been having a set shot.
As for Gordon's missed shot, I agree, he was spent running from half back to be an option up forward and was under pressure. I dont blame that shot, I blame the Houli kick earlier.
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I saw that effort too.
He was tackled as he kicked that last gasp effort.
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gut running
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i wouldn't hang it on the guy...
it was houli that kicked it over the head of griffo/vickery.
and definitely was tackled just as he was kicking the ball.
would have been nice if he had kicked the winner..
but not to be...good debut regardless.
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Just failed to kick a winner in what would've been a record comeback...I predict he will now demand to be bought a house then walk out on us after we refuse.
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Just failed to kick a winner in what would've been a record comeback...I predict he will now demand to be bought a house then walk out on us after we refuse.
:lol I see what u did there.
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Is Flesh Gordon indigenous? ;D
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Nathan Gordon interview on Crocmedia's Sportsday ... [go to 41 min mark in the below audio link]
AUDIO: http://www.crocmedia.com.au/2014/04/07/sportsday-victas-april-7-2014/
* Dimma told me Thursday night that I would be the sub. My heart skipped a beat.
* I wasn’t expecting to come on so early so I was on pretty quick and it went pretty fast, the game. I don’t remember much but I absolutely loved it and thought I did pretty well in my first game in Tigers colours.
* We knew they were number one for contested footy, we knew they were really good at that. It was our second quarter that killed us. We got beaten in a lot of areas, the main thing was basic skill errors by us.
* Dimma didn’t really give us a spray, he just mentioned that about the key points and just said do you guys want to fight or do you guys want to give up here. So he got us in pretty close and he got us pretty fired up and we made a decision to get back to our winning ways and in the end it was a bit too late and they just got over the top of us.
* No there wasn’t [a directive to go to Jack]. It was more team orientated but Jack was one of the blokes who stood up in the second half. I was really rapt with him and he stood up for the team and he started clunking a few marks and kicking a few goals. So we need people like that and good players like him to step up at a time like that and I think he did exactly that. But there was no chance, we just got back to hitting our targets and stopped those easy, basic errors we were doing in the second quarter that killed us.
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Being honest after a promising debut he was near worst on tonight.
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Dimma said Gordon ran 7km after coming on as the sub. So he's a good runner as well as snagging 3 goals tonight.
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Runs harder both ways than most of our players
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I like him
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Don't worry, will be tigerfied by next season and will be flat footed like the rest of the squad.
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Big Gordo! :clapping :clapping :clapping
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I reckon he knows they're pathetic and doesn't give a stuff.
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Liked him as a mid sized forward
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“Gordon is an elite runner."
“We got emailed our GPS reports from the game and you can look into numbers a little bit too much, and for some supporters out there, it might not mean much, but his high-speed running was the most out of anyone in the game – and he’s played 30 minutes! It’s just unbelievable.
“He’s a phenomenal runner and athlete. He covered about six kilometres in 34 minutes of football, and that’s just ridiculous.
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-21/flash-gordon
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Grigg has probably pulled him to one side and told him to pull his head in because he is showing him and some other downhill skiers up, good on Gordo, we need someone to show how to gut run. Laziness can spread through a team like a cancer, hopefully Gordo's efforts influence some others into doing the hard yards.
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I really hope the coaching staff highlight it to embarrass the rest of the list and show them how a bloke not good enough for the Sydney swans list shows up every single one of our elite runners
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I really hope the coaching staff highlight it to embarrass the rest of the list and show them how a bloke not good enough for the Sydney swans list shows up every single one of our elite runners
Yes but it also shows up the coaching staff so they'll probably play it down.
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Lmao@ kids coming in on debuts and thrashing the regulars.
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Watched the game again and he was fantastic with his relentless running. Play him all year as we could have a player here.
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If only he had pace as well, I suppose if that was the case then the Swans would still have him.
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Much bigger test for him against the Hawk runners this week.
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Deserves a full game this week but I reckon the club reckon he is our "supersub" which is rubbish. Given his endurance, he'd be one of our few blokes that could run a game out.
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deserves 4q , I see flash as a Jack darling brad pearce type of tall med forward with a bagful of tricks, just let him loose :shh
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To be honest this bloke hasn't shown if he's even any good. He's just been slightly less poo than your favourite whipping boys, so you're pumping him up.
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Have you watched the last few games coach, take a peek first, agreed it's early days but by gee he has some good qualities
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I'm with coach on this. Lets see how he stacks up after we play the Hawks and Cats. Whenever we are struggling we tend to go off early on players who eventually amount to nothing. They stand out initially because the players around them are out of form and not as hungry for the ball. Gordon has shown ability, I just need to see if he can do it consistently and against a tougher opposition than the Lions. I'd also put Lloyd in the same boat.
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Gordon and llyod will struggle,to,show their abilities from the sub position
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He looked good on the lead in the last quarter and took a nice grab. As simple as that sounds not everyone can do it.
The other option other than forward for Gordon IMO could be a lockdown tagger. Great endurance by the sounds of it, really hard at it, but has he got the mental application?
We desperately need one.
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He looked good on the lead in the last quarter and took a nice grab. As simple as that sounds not everyone can do it.
There's actually a role there for him just doing that if he can. We have been looking for a lead up HF. Might take the role Knights was earmarked for.
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its typical of us. we put our players up on pedestals as soon as they show anything. i suppose 32 yrs of almost exclusively mediocre players thru the door does that to ya.
seems to me with both gordon and lloyd we may have found some decent foot soldiers nothing more nothing less. thing is we need to play em all yr and likely all next yr to really see what we have.
it aint hard to look better than many of the glass half fulls who get regular games that in itself is a problem.
club desperately imo needs to address some real list weaknesses as far as key types of players go and over all quality.
i still believe we should go something like the following and find out what players can do instead of going round in circles doing the same wrong things over and over thinking something will magically change.
i actually think we are at a watershed moment where we can lick our wounds and do some hard yards and likely go backwards in the short term by getting games into kids and finding out about players. or we can continue to play the glass half fulls by the truckload and likely spend the next 5 - 10 yrs in the wilderness.
b/ morris - chaplin - rance
hb/ mcintosh - astbury - vlastuin/ dea/helbig/ or one of the many mids who have played back in deledio,ellis, conca, even lennon.
c/ deledio - martin - ellis
hf/ knights - griffiths - lennon
f/ lloyd - riewoldt - A edwards
r/ maric - cotchin, jackson.
int/ hampson - conca - miles - foley.
the need to find a 1v1 kpd is glaring. as is the need for a few pure tall forwards. pure mids of both types is also glaring as is the need to get a young ruckman or two on the list.
personally id be wanting a full INDEPENDENT review of the whole footy dept with recruiting list management a priority before i did anything.
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its typical of us. we put our players up on pedestals as soon as they show anything. i suppose 32 yrs of almost exclusively mediocre players thru the door does that to ya.
seems to me with both gordon and lloyd we may have found some decent foot soldiers nothing more nothing less. thing is we need to play em all yr and likely all next yr to really see what we have.
it aint hard to look better than many of the glass half fulls who get regular games that in itself is a problem.
club desperately imo needs to address some real list weaknesses as far as key types of players go and over all quality.
i still believe we should go something like the following and find out what players can do instead of going round in circles doing the same wrong things over and over thinking something will magically change.
i actually think we are at a watershed moment where we can lick our wounds and do some hard yards and likely go backwards in the short term by getting games into kids and finding out about players. or we can continue to play the glass half fulls by the truckload and likely spend the next 5 - 10 yrs in the wilderness.
b/ morris - chaplin - rance
hb/ mcintosh - astbury - vlastuin/ dea/helbig/ or one of the many mids who have played back in deledio,ellis, conca, even lennon.
c/ deledio - martin - ellis
hf/ knights - griffiths - lennon
f/ lloyd - riewoldt - A edwards
r/ maric - cotchin, jackson.
int/ hampson - conca - miles - foley.
the need to find a 1v1 kpd is glaring. as is the need for a few pure tall forwards. pure mids of both types is also glaring as is the need to get a young ruckman or two on the list.
personally id be wanting a full INDEPENDENT review of the whole footy dept with recruiting list management a priority before i did anything.
fair call claw.
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VIDEO: Choco's cub watch - Nathan Gordon:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-07-01/choco-cub-watch-gordon
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he had a good debut and looks at this stage to be a decent pick good on him. as a 24 yo id say there should have been some expectation that he would make a decent contribution.
good game or bad i would still argue he would have lasted to the rookie draft.
im still adamant somehow we needed to take more kids and balance our trade/draft periods out.
i hope they give lloyd a game as well got to be a better option as a sml forward than jake king. hes also 24 and i would expect him to be able to make a decent contribution.
i will say it again with some sort of longer term view in mind, we should have gone IF POSSIBLE and ive said this right throughout something like this.
trade period
chapman f/a
laidler f/a
longer and pick 25 for pick 12 and 50.
nd
25 dunston
32 hewitt
64 marsh
78 templeton
rookies of which im honest enough to say i had none in mind. what i did argue it was in the rookie draft where we take mature players if we take em.
miles
gordon
lloyd.
thomas
i put gordon and lloyd here because imo it was clear there was every chance they would last till the rookie draft.
i argued for this sort of scenario and several similar scenarios at the time. it was not going to be too hard to do it was only a matter of tweaking things a little.
it would have given us 5 juniors and 4 or 5 mature types.
but apparently after pick 12 there was no good juniors available and we didnt need to keep an eye on the longer term. i wonder if we miss the 8 this yr if people will still hold that view.
reckon im entitled to bring this post up.
i wonder how many would argue with this sort of process now. its now even clearer than ever that we needed to balance out our drafting and trading last yr.
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Thought he was VERY good.
I'd keep him in the side for the rest of the year no question
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“’Nipper’ Gordon, ‘Flash’ has got elite running capacity which is what you need when you play half-forward these days and he’s really good in the air as well. When he went back and kicked that goal, after copping a big hit from Courtney Dempsey, it was a real steadier for us." - Jack Riewoldt on MMM.
“I think Gordon plays a lot bigger than he actually is (187cm, 86kg). He’s got quite a solid frame, so we know that he can play hard and tough. But also, to get out on the outside and run and use his ability to work is a credit to him and really helpful for us a group." - Trent Cotchin on ABC radio.
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-11/gordons-flash-response
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Can't the n word ffs
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Thought he was VERY good.
I'd keep him in the side for the rest of the year no question
thought he was mostly ordinary and yeah he did a few good things and showed some courage. agree we need to keep playing him and others.
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Hard run the key for Gordon
richmondfc.com.au
August 13, 2014 1:03 PM
Richmond forward Nathan Gordon will be playing to his strengths as a hard runner, as he aims to establish himself as a senior regular for the remainder of the 2014 season.
The 24-year-old played his first full game at AFL level since Round 6 this year, against Essendon last Friday night.
He impressed with his work rate, pressure inside forward 50, and ability to kick two goals at crucial times in the game.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-13/hard-run-the-key-for-gordon
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Know many don't watch the dissection for valid reasons but he does say some interesting stuff at times. Said Gordon covered around 16km last game which is huge!
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That run when he kicked it to lids was awesome
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The kid has earned respect.
Can't not support that.
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He s as tough as a $5 dollar steak this kid don't worry about that :shh
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Did like how he took that hit and then went back to slot the goal. Overall though I thought he was just ok.
Too early to tell yet whether he'll make it or not.
Keep playing him so we can have some exposed form to judge him on.
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Did like how he took that hit and then went back to slot the goal. Overall though I thought he was just ok.
Too early to tell yet whether he'll make it or not.
Keep playing him so we can have some exposed form to judge him on.
Agree. Not sure whether he will make it. Shows a lot of courage. Agree was okay against Bombers. Needs to be given a couple of matches to prove himself.
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Well done young fella stood up when he had too!
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Made a few mistakes but did stand up when it counted. Think he is 22 to 26 on the list. Mind you, , somebody has to be that player and if that someone kicks the goal when we need it then we will be laughing.
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Made a few mistakes but did stand up when it counted. Think he is 22 to 26 on the list. Mind you, , somebody has to be that player and if that someone kicks the goal when we need it then we will be laughing.
Sums him up but he kicked 2 goals again tonight and was involved in plenty of play just too over exhuberant with some of his tackles but he is a real goer. Right now he keeps his spot. :thumbsup
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Not that tonight was the night for it, but his marking is nowhere near the level it was in the SANFL. If he can find that level again when he gains the self belief that he belongs he will be tough to match-up on.
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I really liked his linking up and getting involved in general play up the ground. I was wrong when I thought he might not make it, with efforts like last night he will
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I really liked his linking up and getting involved in general play up the ground. I was wrong when I thought he might not make it, with efforts like last night he will
Pity some other posters can't be as honest.
:cheers
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I really liked his linking up and getting involved in general play up the ground. I was wrong when I thought he might not make it, with efforts like last night he will
Pity some other posters can't be as honest.
:cheers
No point charading around the site like a goose. I'm an honest man. A good man. A kind man.
Just wish the likes of WAT and Claw would be more honest with themselves and we could focus more on the actual football rather than trivial viewpoints.
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One word, gordooooooooooooooo.............ya gotta say, fj, you've done it.......again :clapping
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Reckon he's got a bit to work with. Well done dooks, people are too quick to label players around here
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No point charading around the site like a goose. I'm an honest man. A good man. A kind man.
And a humble man as well! ;D
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Not that tonight was the night for it, but his marking is nowhere near the level it was in the SANFL. If he can find that level again when he gains the self belief that he belongs he will be tough to match-up on.
I was surprised when I saw he had 8 marks
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Not that tonight was the night for it, but his marking is nowhere near the level it was in the SANFL. If he can find that level again when he gains the self belief that he belongs he will be tough to match-up on.
I was surprised when I saw he had 8 marks
yeah he runs under so many. His marking is one of his weapons. He was a good contested mark at sanfl level.
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Hopefully it translates into the AFL
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Not that tonight was the night for it, but his marking is nowhere near the level it was in the SANFL. If he can find that level again when he gains the self belief that he belongs he will be tough to match-up on.
I was surprised when I saw he had 8 marks
I wasn't, the kid has hands like a steel trap :shh
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Hopefully it translates into the AFL
hope so too. Maybe with the belief he belongs we will stay to see it.
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Chrisso & McGuane caught up with Tigers' young gun, Nathan Gordon, who played a huge role in his side's win over the crows. Nathan chats about the victory, and the upcoming clash against the Saints for a possible finals birth.
AUDIO: https://soundcloud.com/rsn-racing/nathan-gordon-richmond-tigers-afl
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* Dimma just wants me to work up the ground with my endurance, work my players into the ground, get back, take a mark, kick a goal. I’m enjoying that position at the moment. I really like working my players into the ground, getting on the outside, and kicking a few goals.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-22/gordon-gets-going
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I really liked his linking up and getting involved in general play up the ground. I was wrong when I thought he might not make it, with efforts like last night he will
Pity some other posters can't be as honest.
:cheers
No point charading around the site like a goose. I'm an honest man. A good man. A kind man.
Just wish the likes of WAT and Claw would be more honest with themselves and we could focus more on the actual football rather than trivial viewpoints.
lol honestty. mate i could not be more honest if i tried. i post what i see and i confirm what i see with stats.
i dont proclaim players on the back of one good game.this bloke and many others at the club have done very little a good game here or there doesnt alter that. this seasons almost done and dusted he will be 25 at the start of next yr and the clock is well and truly ticking.
to be honest i expected much more from a mature recruit whos been in the afl systen since the age of 18 bar one yr. a bloke whos come off a very big yr at state level.
when this bloke bactually becomes a good consistent afl player i will then acclaim him not before. is he a good pick?? i dont know hes done so little to date.,
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Nathan Gordon cleared of contact with Cam Shenton - force used was below that for a report.
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
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Gave me the poos a couple of times where he didnt look where he was disposing and dished it straight to an Aints player
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Gave me the poos a couple of times where he didnt look where he was disposing and dished it straight to an Aints player
Thought the same. Took an absolute speccie though! :thumbsup
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Gave me the poos a couple of times where he didnt look where he was disposing and dished it straight to an Aints player
Thought the same. Took an absolute speccie though! :thumbsup
Yeh it was good and nice choice of cushion too
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Nathan Gordon cleared of contact with Cam Shenton - force used was below that for a report.
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
new it. Did Cotchin get off
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Nathan Gordon cleared of contact with Cam Shenton - force used was below that for a report.
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
Cost us a goal that bump. Shouldn't have gone for the bump. We had the break. Decision making at times lets him down. Needs to work on that aspect of his game.
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Nathan Gordon cleared of contact with Cam Shenton - force used was below that for a report.
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
knew it. Did Cotchin get off
edit; corrected spelling
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Nathan Gordon cleared of contact with Cam Shenton - force used was below that for a report.
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
knew it. Did Cotchin get off
Edit; corrected spelling.
Grammar corrected too! ;D
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Nathan Gordon cleared of contact with Cam Shenton - force used was below that for a report.
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
Cost us a goal that bump. Shouldn't have gone for the bump. We had the break. Decision making at times lets him down. Needs to work on that aspect of his game.
I honestly don't believe he even went for the bump, he only had eyes for the ball and the saints player came in his line and he braced last second, never deviated his line and never thought his intent was to bump - thought he would've been stiff tbh.
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Nathan Gordon cleared of contact with Cam Shenton - force used was below that for a report.
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
Cost us a goal that bump. Shouldn't have gone for the bump. We had the break. Decision making at times lets him down. Needs to work on that aspect of his game.
What would you have liked him to have done
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Dimma in his round 3 dissection talking about Gordon and his role as sub so far:
Q. Interested to know why Gordon doesn't start more often? What's more important? His pressure or running?
Dimma:
Gordo has unlimited ability. Incredible talent from a running capacity offensively and defensively. Certainly got areas of his game we'd like him to improve, like most of our players, and one of those is his consistency. Really happy with his game on the weekend. Did some really good offensive stuff as well as defensive pressure acts. Nathan has got the ability to kick goals which is a facet of his game we like. His running capacity is one of the best at our club from an endurance point of view, so he's capable of playing out a full game. There's a goal that he kicks in third quarter where he start off at the stoppage and runs down to mark it deep inside forward 50 and snaps a goal, which emphasises his running capacity. We feel he will add more to his game as he progresses over a period of time. His a player capable of pinch-hitting at stage but Dimma reckons Gordon will force his way into our 22 in the not too distant future.
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Dimma in his round 3 dissection talking about Gordon and his role as sub so far:
Q. Interested to know why Gordon doesn't start more often? What's more important? His pressure or running?
Dimma:
He's a player capable of pinch-hitting at stage but Dimma reckons Gordon will force his way into our 22 in the not too distant future.
... do you think someone should tell the coach that Gordo is already in the 22?
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Dimma in his round 3 dissection talking about Gordon and his role as sub so far:
Q. Interested to know why Gordon doesn't start more often? What's more important? His pressure or running?
Dimma:
He's a player capable of pinch-hitting at stage but Dimma reckons Gordon will force his way into our 22 in the not too distant future.
... do you think someone should tell the coach that Gordo is already in the 22?
:lol
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Do we rate flash ?
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Do we rate flash ?
Looks like a chicken with its head cut off!
The good things he does are always outdone with the bad.
His last two games have been just at best, needs to get better fast!
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Do we rate flash ?
Looks like a chicken with its head cut off!
The good things he does are always outdone with the bad.
His last two games have been just at best, needs to get better fast!
Spot on.
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anyone rate this bloke or too soon? im always prepared to cut the kids some slack for a few years but i am not sure about this bloke. He is not a kid.
Disposal seems very ordinary when on the odd occasion he actually touches the ball.
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Depth player. Average backup for injuries. May as well keep I reckon
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Way too hot and cold and if we are to go further we need one standard and that's hot!!
Looks out of his league, Lloyd is the same, one hit wonders.
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Nowhere near our best 22 IMHO.
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Gordon without a Flash...
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Frustrating watching this guy.
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8327078400/hDC88E38A/)
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Gordon runs with the purpose and direction of someone frantically escaping a burning building. Morris on the other hand runs with the purpose and direction of someone running into a burning building. Newman just watches the building burn from across the road.
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Gordon runs with the purpose and direction of someone frantically escaping a burning building. Morris on the other hand runs with the purpose and direction of someone running into a burning building. Newman just watches the building burn from across the road.
:lol :clapping :bow....absolutely nailed it tiga!!!
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Chaplin points at the building and yells at it
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Tells vlastuin and Grimes to put out the fire
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Chaplin points at the building and yells at it
Fireman without a hose
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:lol
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He is hot and cold , balances one good thing with a stuff up, was better last week, was average on Friday. I don't reckon he ll be dropped as there could be a couple of changes already
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Equal worst game I've seen from a Tiger player with Jackson Wobbely or whatever the stuff that blokes name was.
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Agree he has an absolute shocker, but I think he has some fantastic attributes and could be something.
That is a big could, but id like to see him get a few more games.
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Sure at full strength he's not in our best 22 .
But 18 goals in 20 games for the tigers is a pretty good return for a "moneyball " recruit.
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Depth player. Average backup for injuries. May as well keep I reckon
Could have a younger player who could provide as little as he did but have the added benefit of improvement left in him.
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We do, his name is Connor.
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We do, his name is Connor.
Could think of some better examples who would actually provide more immediately and still have improvement left in them
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Help g
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We do, his name is Connor.
Could think of some better examples who would actually provide more immediately and still have improvement left in them
Well the club said on draft night that he would take a few years.....but he could still easily offer as little as Gordon does now....
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*helbig
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I have hopes for the Dew but gee he needs some time in the VFL and to bulk up a bit
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Agree but still wouldn't mind seeing him given a few more runs as the sub before the year is out. Looking forward to seeing what Butler offers too once he's fit again...looked as good as anyone from what little I've seen.....
*helbig
Hunt without pace.
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hoping Butler will play in VFL this week or next.