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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: georgies31 on October 21, 2014, 03:48:49 AM
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What a peoples thoughts on Jordan Cunico after we have used pick 12 ,kid has talent and speed and finds the footy.
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What a peoples thoughts on Jordan Cunico after we have used pick 12 ,kid has talent and speed and finds the footy.
Emma Quayle's write-up:
Jordan Cunico (Gippsland Power)
Born 7.5.1996, 184cm, 72kg
AFL biography: Medium Midfielder with exciting burst of speed and can run all day. Strong overhead for his size and consistent ball winner in championships where he read the play very well, particularly at stoppages. Averaged 15.6 disposals at 74% efficiency playing for Vic Country in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships.
Highlights video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1QAmUz-acg
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I've split our later picks discussion to its own thread here.
Emma has a summary for 100 potential draftees here for those interested: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-draft-news-emma-quayle-profiles-100-potential-draftees-20141006-10qsxp.html
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What's the odds someone of note sliding 33
For a change
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Might aswell not use 52 and 70
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who cares
FJ will stuff these up. Might as well upgrade Maric's cousin with one of these picks or use it to bring back A edwards.
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who cares
FJ will stuff these up. Might as well upgrade Maric's cousin with one of these picks or use it to bring back A edwards.
There is hope! FJ is now not calling all the shots. The club made sure of that!
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What a peoples thoughts on Jordan Cunico after we have used pick 12 ,kid has talent and speed and finds the footy.
Surely too small
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From the same Emma Quayle article:
Lukas Webb (Gippsland Power)
Born 4.3.1996, 186cm, 80kg
AFL biography: Left footed medium forward who is strong overhead, an excellent one on one player that is rarely beaten and an excellent kick. Reads the game well and had an outstanding final game in championships, kicking four goals from 16 disposals with six marks against Western Australia at Etihad Stadium. Averaged 15.2 disposals in five under-18 championship matches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWZ5n-cI32M
I would take Webb if avail at 52 and turn him into an attacking hbf.
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think a realistic spot to place these two
pick 33 tyler kietel or connor blakeley surprise surprise both west aussie lads. the tall fwd kietel if both there please.
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From the same Emma Quayle article:
Lukas Webb (Gippsland Power)
Born 4.3.1996, 186cm, 80kg
AFL biography: Left footed medium forward who is strong overhead, an excellent one on one player that is rarely beaten and an excellent kick. Reads the game well and had an outstanding final game in championships, kicking four goals from 16 disposals with six marks against Western Australia at Etihad Stadium. Averaged 15.2 disposals in five under-18 championship matches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWZ5n-cI32M
I would take Webb if avail at 52 and turn him into an attacking hbf.
Sounds like the O'hanlon write up
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With Hunt's recruitment, we'll now most likely be using only live picks 12, 33 & 52 with 70 being used on promoting Miles to the senior list.
The AFL site's Draft Machine has the following at our later picks:
33. Dean Gore - inside mid, Sturt (SA), 18, 183cm, 86kg
Medium midfielder reads the game well and strong in contests. Has speed and elite endurance. Played pivotal role in South Australia winning the NAB AFL Under-18 Championship, averaging 15 touches, seven tackles and three clearances. Averaged 14 possessions in 12 games for SANFL club Sturt. Finished equal-first in the goalkicking test (30/30), equal-third in the kicking test (27/30) and equal-fifth in the standing vertical jump (72cm) at NAB AFL Draft Combine.
52. Damien Cavka - half-back/midfield, Calder Cannons (Vic), 18, 184cm, 79kg
Elite endurance player with the capacity to run all day. Can play variety of roles, including shutting down opponents through the midfield, as well as rebounding from half-back. Shows excellent character and work ethic. Performed well at NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, averaging 18 possessions, seven tackles, five marks and three clearances at 70 per cent efficiency in four matches. Averaged 23 possessions in 11 games and kicked 17 goals for Calder Cannons in the TAC Cup.
http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-machine
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With Hunt's recruitment, we'll now most likely be using only live picks 12, 33 & 52 with 70 being used on promoting Miles to the senior list.
The AFL site's Draft Machine has the following at our later picks:
33. Dean Gore - inside mid, Sturt (SA), 18, 183cm, 86kg
Medium midfielder reads the game well and strong in contests. Has speed and elite endurance. Played pivotal role in South Australia winning the NAB AFL Under-18 Championship, averaging 15 touches, seven tackles and three clearances. Averaged 14 possessions in 12 games for SANFL club Sturt. Finished equal-first in the goalkicking test (30/30), equal-third in the kicking test (27/30) and equal-fifth in the standing vertical jump (72cm) at NAB AFL Draft Combine.
52. Damien Cavka - half-back/midfield, Calder Cannons (Vic), 18, 184cm, 79kg
Elite endurance player with the capacity to run all day. Can play variety of roles, including shutting down opponents through the midfield, as well as rebounding from half-back. Shows excellent character and work ethic. Performed well at NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, averaging 18 possessions, seven tackles, five marks and three clearances at 70 per cent efficiency in four matches. Averaged 23 possessions in 11 games and kicked 17 goals for Calder Cannons in the TAC Cup.
http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-machine
so we can rule out pick 70 that now goes on miles.
is it possible for us to say put 39 on the list proper and have 5 rookie spots not sure how that works in this case.
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I hope we go with a 40/4 list - keep pick 70, have a PSD pick - add Darcy Cameron, Shane Nelson & a big young KPD to Thomarse.
Gore sounds good if we address our pace issues with our first pick.
Wigg tipped to go anywhere betwwen 25 - 65. Wouldn't mind him at him at 33 but it would be a fantastic result to get him at 52.
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Cock to slide to 33 pls
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I hope we go with a 40/4 list - keep pick 70, have a PSD pick - add Darcy Cameron, Shane Nelson & a big young KPD to Thomarse.
Gore sounds good if we address our pace issues with our first pick.
Wigg tipped to go anywhere betwwen 25 - 65. Wouldn't mind him at him at 33 but it would be a fantastic result to get him at 52.
so what has to happen to get a 40/4 scenario
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I hope we go with a 40/4 list - keep pick 70, have a PSD pick - add Darcy Cameron, Shane Nelson & a big young KPD to Thomarse.
Gore sounds good if we address our pace issues with our first pick.
Wigg tipped to go anywhere betwwen 25 - 65. Wouldn't mind him at him at 33 but it would be a fantastic result to get him at 52.
so what has to happen to get a 40/4 scenario
Just need to read out 5 kids names rather than passing on the 4th or 5th pick.
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I hope we go with a 40/4 list - keep pick 70, have a PSD pick - add Darcy Cameron, Shane Nelson & a big young KPD to Thomarse.
Gore sounds good if we address our pace issues with our first pick.
Wigg tipped to go anywhere betwwen 25 - 65. Wouldn't mind him at him at 33 but it would be a fantastic result to get him at 52.
so what has to happen to get a 40/4 scenario
Just what I said - we use pick 70 and a PSD pick (or even use pick 88 and then upgrade Miles with pick 106) - this would leave us with 3 rookie picks to go with Thomarse. If there's nothing of note in the PSD we can still use 4 rookie picks + Thomarse.
Wouldn't mind giving Port DFA Ben Newton a go - 23 next year, similar type to Miles but 4 cm taller and around 5kg's heavier, was only delisted after asking for a release, like Miles, found himself stuck behind high-end talent...though I heard Melbourne are heavily into him.
I highly doubt we will go 40/4 (and probably not even 39/5 for that matter) though as the club is most likely planning to elevate Thomarse before round one again and unless there's an LTI vacancy, they wouldn't be able to with a 40/4 list.
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From Brett Anderson's mock draft in Inside Football:
Richmond selections
33. Toby McLean (Oakleigh Chargers)
52. Matthew Goodyear (Calder Cannons)
70. Pass
83. Pass
92. Anthony Miles (rookie promotion)
Full mock draft (round 2 onwards excluding passes, father-sons, academy selections and rookie promotions)
21. St K Corey Ellis
22. St K Reece McKenzie
23. GWS Jarrod Garlett
25. North Connor Menadue
26. WB Connor Blakely
27. WB Oscar McDonald
28. Carl Blaine Boekhurst
29. GC Ed Vickers-Willis
30. Coll Touk Miller
31. Haw Daniel McKenzie
32. WC Damien Cavka
33. Rich Toby McLean
34. Freo Clem Smith
35. Adel Declan Hamilton
36. North Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
37. Syd Dan Howe
39. WB Harrison Wigg
40. Melb Ed Langdon
41. St K Jack Lonie
43. Adel Alex Neal-Bullen
47. Geel Dean Gore
48. Coll Michael Manteit
49. Haw Lukas Webb
51. WC Brenden Abbott
52. Rich Matthew Goodyear
54. Freo Jayden Foster
55. Geel Bailey Dale
57. Port Nathan Drummond
59. Adel Marc Pittonet
60. Geel Jackson Nelson
61. Carl Daniel Nielsen
65. Carl Ahmed Saad
67. Bris Nick Newman
69. WC Tyler Keitel
70. Rich Pass
73. Port Jack Cripps
78. Bris Josh McGuinness
83. Rich Pass
84. Port Will Fordham
93. Port Josh Glenn
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With the delisting of Arnot from our senior list, pick 70 is back in play as a live selection. Our recruiters must have a fair idea that someone who we want will still be available at 70 or they won't be around at our first rookie pick so we need to get in before the rookie draft.
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Woah FJ to work his magic deep into the draft.... again :shh
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taking a draftee at pick 70 is more about saving money for free agency next year than the player we take.
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taking a draftee at pick 70 is more about saving money for free agency next year than the player we take.
What would of arnot had been on
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taking a draftee at pick 70 is more about saving money for free agency next year than the player we take.
What would of arnot had been on
lol poo loads didnt you know.
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What about Jack Lonie?
Being compared to Ballantine and god knows we need a goal sneak like that.
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What about Jack Lonie?
Being compared to Ballantine and god knows we need a goal sneak like that.
Said a while back I'd be interested in him with a later pick. Could be the small forward we need but I don't think we should be using a high pick on a player who personally I reckon won't make a good midfield pinch hitter and will be mostly confined to the forward line
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taking a draftee at pick 70 is more about saving money for free agency next year than the player we take.
What would of arnot had been on
at least 3 or 4 times what a third or fourth rnd draftee would be on
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What about Jack Lonie?
Being compared to Ballantine and god knows we need a goal sneak like that.
Said a while back I'd be interested in him with a later pick. Could be the small forward we need but I don't think we should be using a high pick on a player who personally I reckon won't make a good midfield pinch hitter and will be mostly confined to the forward line
Specialist small forwards have to be really outstanding like Rioli, Ballantyne, Betts or Milne to pay off these days IMO. If they can't rotate through midfield they're a liability more often than not.
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taking a draftee at pick 70 is more about saving money for free agency next year than the player we take.
What would of arnot had been on
at least 3 or 4 times what a third or fourth rnd draftee would be on
wouldn't have thought so, 3rd rounder is base approx. $50 k + 3k per game
I reckon bikkies on around $100k
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33 - Terrence Conti (brother of Freo star Alex Conti)
52 - Mindy Petrenko (sister of West Coast/Canberra Raiders star Taylor Petrenko)
70 - Samson Conti-Petrenko (son of Terrence Conti and Mindy Petrenko)
Woah, get it done :shh
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From Callum Twomey's live chat today:
"Andre, have heard Richmond has some interest in Nathan Drummond later on."
"Doubt Clem Smith would join the Tigers, Brent. He's a chance for one of West Coast's later selections but his fitness is a concern for some recruiters."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-14/chat-live-with-draft-expert-callum-twomey
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Drummond looks ok...
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-09-16/draft-prospect-nathan-drummond
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What about Jack Lonie?
Being compared to Ballantine and god knows we need a goal sneak like that.
Said a while back I'd be interested in him with a later pick. Could be the small forward we need but I don't think we should be using a high pick on a player who personally I reckon won't make a good midfield pinch hitter and will be mostly confined to the forward line
Specialist small forwards have to be really outstanding like Rioli, Ballantyne, Betts or Milne to pay off these days IMO. If they can't rotate through midfield they're a liability more often than not.
Even saying that Rioli and Ballantyne can go through the midfield at times (don't watch Freo unless we play them :sleep :sleep but Rioli seems hit and miss in there). I could be wrong Lonie could go alright through the midfield but I wouldn't use 2nd rounder on him
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What about Jack Lonie?
Being compared to Ballantine and god knows we need a goal sneak like that.
Said a while back I'd be interested in him with a later pick. Could be the small forward we need but I don't think we should be using a high pick on a player who personally I reckon won't make a good midfield pinch hitter and will be mostly confined to the forward line
Specialist small forwards have to be really outstanding like Rioli, Ballantyne, Betts or Milne to pay off these days IMO. If they can't rotate through midfield they're a liability more often than not.
Even saying that Rioli and Ballantyne can go through the midfield at times (don't watch Freo unless we play them :sleep :sleep but Rioli seems hit and miss in there). I could be wrong Lonie could go alright through the midfield but I wouldn't use 2nd rounder on him
He'd be a steel at 52 but from what I have seen he will be gone by then. Maybe it is time to invest a good draft pick on a decent small forward??
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Drummond looks ok...
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-09-16/draft-prospect-nathan-drummond
He looks ok but has no left foot, he also seems quick but is he really? he seems to lose metres when being chased by opponents in that video. Wouldn't want unless its pick 70 or something.
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Hopefully Bomber is able to ask Stephen Wells who we should take and pass word on in preparation for when he takes over.
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Drummond looks ok...
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-09-16/draft-prospect-nathan-drummond
Certainly looked OK in the 3 VFL games he played for Richmond as 23rd man
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okay ive given up on us taking a tall with our first 3 picks.
at 33 if we are after pace my first choice here would be jackson nelson. this kid has real toe, great awareness, and just reads the play well. he plays h/b is a good size at 187/81 and should become a powerful player. i have little doubt he will become a good mid. but even if he doesnt he will be a very good rebounding defender who can do a job on his opponent.
cant believe the lack of love for this kid.
still looking for pace and dont like nelson
connor menadue and alex markov. both are tallish rangy players. at about 188cm. both really quick with good skills and lots of upside.
if looking for an inside machine the one im hoping slips is blakeley. really like this kid and i can see him going inside the top 20.
theres another 4 mids i lke around here and at the moment it about rating them in order. neil-bullen, cavka, mckenzie and maynard should be about the 33 mark.
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Nelson looks like a good player too. Do you think he'll be around for our 3rd or 4th pick.
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Nelson looks like a good player too. Do you think he'll be around for our 3rd or 4th pick.
not likely imo.
has to be a top 25 pick imo. in some ways the lack of recognition and love for this kid reminds me of vlastuin the closer the draft got the more he just didnt get mentioned.
if taking mids was the sole objective i wouldnt hesitate to take nelson at 33.
the other kid who has totally fallen off the radar is watchman i sure as hell hope we are looking at talls as well as mids with 33 52 and 70.
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He'd be a steel at 52 but from what I have seen he will be gone by then. Maybe it is time to invest a good draft pick on a decent small forward??
I agree he will probably be gone by then. If we had of gotten an extra 1st or 2nd rounder we probably could of gone and used it on a decent small forward but honestly there aren't many good small forwards taken with early picks. Of course there was Ballantyne and Rioli who were taken early and Jamie Elliott was packaged for a first round draft pick but you look at the rest of the small forwards in the comp (unless I've missed some) and they were taken as late round picks (Lindsay Thomas) or in the other drafts (Garlett, Betts and Milne).
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From Callum Twomey's latest audio podcast about our later picks ...
Daniel Howe attracting interest from Richmond and Adelaide.
Lukas Webb linked to the Bulldogs as a late 20s/early 30s pick with interest from Richmond as well.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-14/draft-podcast-two-weeks-to-go
Daniel Howe - Murray Bushrangers
Player bio 2014 U18 Stats
Age: 18 Games: 4
Height: 191cm Goals: –
Weight: 84kg Avg Kicks: 9.5
Pos: Defender Avg Marks: 4
Avg H'balls: 7
The inside word
Mobile tall defender with strong overhead marking ability. Takes the game on and shows initiative. Impressed as a 19-year-old in four matches for Vic Country in NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, averaging 17 disposals, four marks, two tackles and two clearances at 76 per cent efficiency. Played 11 games in the TAC Cup, averaging 19 touches. Was equal-second in kicking test (28/30) at NAB AFL Draft Combine.
VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-09-20/draft-prospect-daniel-howe
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Lukas Webb - Gippsland Power
Player bio 2014 U18 Stats
Age: 18 Games: 5
Height: 186cm Goals: 8
Weight: 80kg Avg Kicks: 8.4
Pos: Forward Avg Marks: 3.4
Avg H'balls: 6.8
The inside word
Left-footed medium forward is strong overhead and excellent kick. Averaged 15 touches, three marks and two goals at 72 per cent efficiency in five games in NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Reads the game well and had an outstanding final match for Vic Country, kicking four goals from 16 disposals and taking six marks at Etihad Stadium. Averaged 17 disposals in seven matches at TAC Cup level. Finished sixth in the agility run (8.28 sec) at NAB AFL Draft Combine.
VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWZ5n-cI32M
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-09-16/draft-prospect-lukas-webb
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Would be a steal getting Nelson with our 2nd round pick. This kid has all the tools.
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From Callum Twomey's latest audio podcast about our later picks ...
Daniel Howe attracting interest from Richmond and Adelaide.
Lukas Webb linked to the Bulldogs as a late 20s/early 30s pick with interest from Richmond as well.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-14/draft-podcast-two-weeks-to-go
Daniel Howe - Murray Bushrangers
Player bio 2014 U18 Stats
Age: 18 Games: 4
Height: 191cm Goals: –
Weight: 84kg Avg Kicks: 9.5
Pos: Defender Avg Marks: 4
Avg H'balls: 7
The inside word
Mobile tall defender with strong overhead marking ability. Takes the game on and shows initiative. Impressed as a 19-year-old in four matches for Vic Country in NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, averaging 17 disposals, four marks, two tackles and two clearances at 76 per cent efficiency. Played 11 games in the TAC Cup, averaging 19 touches. Was equal-second in kicking test (28/30) at NAB AFL Draft Combine.
VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-09-20/draft-prospect-daniel-howe
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Lukas Webb - Gippsland Power
Player bio 2014 U18 Stats
Age: 18 Games: 5
Height: 186cm Goals: 8
Weight: 80kg Avg Kicks: 8.4
Pos: Forward Avg Marks: 3.4
Avg H'balls: 6.8
The inside word
Left-footed medium forward is strong overhead and excellent kick. Averaged 15 touches, three marks and two goals at 72 per cent efficiency in five games in NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Reads the game well and had an outstanding final match for Vic Country, kicking four goals from 16 disposals and taking six marks at Etihad Stadium. Averaged 17 disposals in seven matches at TAC Cup level. Finished sixth in the agility run (8.28 sec) at NAB AFL Draft Combine.
VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWZ5n-cI32M
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-09-16/draft-prospect-lukas-webb
Already taken in the phantom draft
Pick 52
Richmond
Dan Howe
Murray Bushrangers
Mobile tall defender with strong overhead marking ability. Takes the game on and shows initiative. Impressed as a 19-year-old in four matches for Vic Country in NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, averaging 17 disposals, four marks, two tackles and two clearances at 76 per cent efficiency. Played 11 games in the TAC Cup, averaging 19 touches. Was equal-second in kicking test (28/30) at NAB AFL Draft Combine.
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Howe and Webb highlight packages are both very good. Both good kicks and both know how to impact the scoreboard based on videos. Webb doesn't mind getting involved in traffic which is a good thing. I get the feeling we should have done more to get more picks in this draft.
Dean Gore the South Australian, he has some very good qualities that boy. He could be a really damaging midfielder down the track - a terrific size for a midfielder too.
Blaine Bokhorst from WA, he is speed machine that boy, could be fantastic running through the wings at the MCG. Knows how to kick a goal as well. Some of the kicking Im not sure he means but he hits targets and for someone whose running that quick that's not easy to do.
Why the stuff did we re-sign Chris Newman. The last few days where I have had some more time to look at the profiles and see some vision, it just seems like you could be finding good players well into the pick 50s (based on some of the phantom rankings)
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The club took one kid last year. Lennon
Didn't trade for extra picks this year.
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As I said I haven't had a lot of time this year but the last 3 or 4 days Ive managed to look at some profiles and at whatever vision I can based on those things I am hoping we leave the draft with one of the players from each of the groups below,
12- Lachlan Weller, Liam Duggan, Paul Ahearn, Peter Wright, Sam Durdin
33- Daniel McKenzie, Jack Lonie, Alex Neal Bullen, Damien Cavka
52- Luke Webb, Daniel Howe, Dean Gore, Jack Nelson, Blaine Bokhorst, Touk Miller,
70- Any of the above who haven't been selected yet
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As I said I haven't had a lot of time this year but the last 3 or 4 days Ive managed to look at some profiles and at whatever vision I can based on those things I am hoping we leave the draft with one of the players from each of the groups below,
12- Lachlan Weller, Liam Duggan, Paul Ahearn, Peter Wright, Sam Durdin
33- Daniel McKenzie, Jack Lonie, Alex Neal Bullen, Damien Cavka
52- Luke Webb, Daniel Howe, Dean Gore, Jack Nelson, Blaine Bokhorst, Touk Miller,
70- Any of the above who haven't been selected yet
:thumbsup
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Interesting to compare the careers of Nakia Cockatoo and Blaine Bokhorst down the track I reckon. Nakia has a lot of friends on the Richmond forums but people should have a look at Bokhorst in action.
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Anyone here rate Toby McLean for a late pick?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-17/from-nobody-to-drafted
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Think he is a quietly determined and tough kid. Definately one to be looking at cyclops. Comes out of nowhere just like that mark he takes lol.
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Regular phantom drafter Paige Cardona has us taking McLean at 33.
33. Toby McLean
52. Matthew Goodyear
70. Taylor Grace
http://boundforglorynews.com/paige-cardonas-phantom-draft-6-0/
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Regular phantom drafter Paige Cardona has us taking McLean at 33.
33. Toby McLean
52. Matthew Goodyear
70. Taylor Grace
http://boundforglorynews.com/paige-cardonas-phantom-draft-6-0/
So she just copied Brett Andersons phantom draft?
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And some were saying Jack Lonie is too small, Toby McLean is a ferrit compared to Lonie.
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Regular phantom drafter Paige Cardona has us taking McLean at 33.
As good a guess as any. Like trying to pick lotto numbers.
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And some were saying Jack Lonie is too small, Toby McLean is a ferrit compared to Lonie.
You do realise Lonie is 174cm. That's 5cm shorter than McLean.
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And some were saying Jack Lonie is too small, Toby McLean is a ferrit compared to Lonie.
You do realise Lonie is 174cm. That's 5cm shorter than McLean.
Have a look at the body size. 5cm is still a difference to.
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lol wat the stuff
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Regular phantom drafter Paige Cardona has us taking McLean at 33.
33. Toby McLean
52. Matthew Goodyear
70. Taylor Grace
http://boundforglorynews.com/paige-cardonas-phantom-draft-6-0/
not keen on any of those players. i sure hope paige has us cobfused with another club.
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For our second pick....come on down Jackson Nelson. Ticks all the boxes and some.
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taking a draftee at pick 70 is more about saving money for free agency next year than the player we take.
What would of arnot had been on
at least 3 or 4 times what a third or fourth rnd draftee would be on
but arnot is a contracted player so we pay that in the salary cap no matter what. theres no savings to be had by rookieing him other than his rookie income goes towards his list proper payout.
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Brett Anderson reckons Touk Miller is in the mix at our 2nd pick (#33).
"Possibly. In mix at Essendon in 1st round, then GC/Coll/Haw/Rich in Rd 2."
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/status/534995814032998401
Anderson also has Tom McLean at 33 in his phantom draft.
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Callum Twomey in his live chat today ....
"Expect Dean Gore is probably a 45-onwards selection. Been some interest from Richmond I believe."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-21/chat-live-with-draft-expert-cal-twomey
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Callum Twomey in his live chat today ....
"Expect Dean Gore is probably a 45-onwards selection. Been some interest from Richmond I believe."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-21/chat-live-with-draft-expert-cal-twomey
Gore could become a powerhouse midfielder IMHO. He be a great pick at 52
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Gore at 52 would be a huge steal.
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Wrighty
Lamb
Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
:shh
LAYER BIO 2014 U18 STATS
Age: 18 Games: 5
Height: 193cm Goals: 3
Weight: 84kg Avg Kicks: 8.6
Pos: Forward Avg Marks: 2.8
Avg H'balls: 6.2
THE INSIDE WORD
Tall forward/midfielder with elite endurance, excellent goal sense, footy nous and strong hands overhead. Showcased running power at the NAB AFL Draft Combine, finishing second in the 3km time trial with a time of 9:45 and third in the beep test with 15.5. Averaged 14.8 disposals with 50 per cent contested in five matches in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Member of NAB AFL Academy Level 2 squad. Father Wayne played with Melbourne and Fitzroy.
http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-machine
yes pls
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Leverde -slot straight into the midfield rotations
Keitel- slot straight in as a forward
Lonie- slot straight in as a small forward.
3 players that could make an impact next year and fill some serious holes in our side.
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The Herald-Sun's phantom draft after our first pick up to pick 31 (two before our second round pick). A rough guide to who may still be available at our pick 33:
13. FREMANTLE Sam Durdin
14. ADELAIDE Jake Lever
15. GOLD COAST Kyle Langford
16. NORTH MELB. Nakia Cockatoo
17. ESSENDON Jarrod Garlett
18. SYDNEY Isaac Heeney
19. CARLTON Caleb Marchbank
20. ESSENDON Corey Ellis
21. ST KILDA Reece McKenzie
22. ST KILDA Alex Neal-Bullen
23. GWS GIANTS Tom Lamb
24. GWS GIANTS Jack Steele
25. NORTH MELB. Daniel McKenzie
26. W.BULLDOGS Ed Vickers-Willis
27. W.BULLDOGS Connor Menadue
28. CARLTON Blaine Boekhorst
29. GOLD COAST Connor Blakely
30. COLLINGWOOD Touk Miller
31. HAWTHORN Brayden Maynard
http://m.stuff-and-sam-landsberger-predict-who-your-club-will-pick/story-e6frf3e3-1227132256899
32. WEST COAST ?
33. RICHMOND ?
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According to the AFL website, we have 6 picks all up - 12, 33, 52, 67, 77 & 83.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-24/the-final-draft-order
I'd presume we will using four of them and passing on the last two.
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Kevin 'Shifter' Sheehan's top 40:
Rucks
Peter Wright (203cm, 100kg)
Marc Pittonet (201cm, 105kg)
Tall Forwards (190cm+)
Paddy McCartin (193cm, 95kg)
Darcy Moore (198cm, 91kg)
Dan Howe (192cm, 85kg)
Hugh Goddard (196cm, 94kg)
Reece McKenzie (197cm, 107kg)
Kyle Langford (190cm, 76kg)
Tall Defenders (190cm+)
Caleb Marchbank (191cm, 88kg)
Ed Vickers-Willis (190cm, 82kg)
Sam Durdin (197cm, 87kg)
Jake Lever (193cm, 84kg)
Oscar McDonald (197cm, 93kg)
Zaine Cordy (191cm, 83kg)
Medium Defenders (180-189cm)
Harrison Wigg (178cm, 74kg)
Clem Smith (177cm, 78kg)
Liam Duggan (184cm, 75kg)
Brayden Maynard (186cm, 87kg)
Connor Menadue (187cm, 69kg)
Medium/Tall Midfielders (180cm+)
Christian Petracca (186cm, 94kg)
Angus Brayshaw (186cm, 90kg)
Jayden Laverde (189cm, 80kg)
Lachie Weller (181cm, 76kg)
Paul Ahern (181cm, 82kg)
Isaac Heeney (186cm, 84kg)
Nakia Cockatoo (186cm, 86kg)
Corey Ellis (184cm, 74cm)
Alex Neal-Bullen (181cm, 76kg)
Billy Stretch (180cm, 70kg)
Connor Blakely (188cm, 84kg)
Jordan Cunico (184cm, 73kg)
Jack Hiscox (185cm, 75kg)
Jordan DeGoey (187cm, 84kg)
Tom Lamb (193cm, 83kg)
Daniel McKenzie (184cm, 78kg)
Medium Forwards (180cm+)
Toby McLean (180cm, 72kg)
Jack Steele (188cm, 85kg)
Small Mids/Forwards (>180cm)
Jarrod Pickett (177cm, 75kg)
Touk Miller (178cm, 82kg)
Jarrod Garlett (180cm, 68kg
http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Kevin-Sheehan-2014-Draft-List.pdf
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I like some of our r2 plus picks (a few) over the years but just for once how about the Tigers be the team that picks up that smokey that makes a real difference year 1. Every year one team or another seems to pick that player , well its our turn. I have no idea who that player is but my bet it would be a small/medium forward that could come in to our team and make the biggest difference straight away. I think thats what they were trying to do last year but I didnt come off. Stick to the kids this year, just maybe one will surprise.
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The Phantom Draft with Callum Twomey
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
November 25, 2014 6:58 PM
RICHMOND
Picks: 12, 33, 52, 67, 77, 83
With four live selections, the Tigers will obviously be hoping for some talent to get through late.
They've shown an interest in small forward Toby McLean, and he would offer something new and vibrant to their forward line with his high-marking and goalkicking smarts.
The Tigers liked Dan Howe last year but, like every other club, overlooked him come draft time. He's had a better season this year and is in the Tigers' mix at 33,
while hard-at-it midfielder Nathan Drummond is a chance later having put together an impressive back half of the season.
South Australian inside midfielder Dean Gore is also considered a possibility.
Richmond is more likely to use five picks at the draft and hold pick 83 over for a rookie or pre-season selection.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-25/the-phantom-draft
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I like some of our r2 plus picks (a few) over the years but just for once how about the Tigers be the team that picks up that smokey that makes a real difference year 1. Every year one team or another seems to pick that player , well its our turn. I have no idea who that player is but my bet it would be a small/medium forward that could come in to our team and make the biggest difference straight away. I think thats what they were trying to do last year but I didnt come off. Stick to the kids this year, just maybe one will surprise.
Do you mean like Anthony Miles?
Not a kid I know but still...
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Brett Anderson reckons Touk Miller is in the mix at our 2nd pick (#33).
"Possibly. In mix at Essendon in 1st round, then GC/Coll/Haw/Rich in Rd 2."
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/status/534995814032998401
Tiges like Miller at 33 but might not get there.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/status/537081717148758016
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Leverde -slot straight into the midfield rotations
Keitel- slot straight in as a forward
Lonie- slot straight in as a small forward.
3 players that could make an impact next year and fill some serious holes in our side.
hmm laverde or degoey at 12. laverde has been the mid i have most wanted for months on end but i must admit i really am warming to the thought of de goey. i like kietel and could live with lonie at 52. reckon we could use 67 to get lonie though.
a question if you have a mind to answer it. what range do you rate tom lamb in. i really like so much about this kid but i dont know if id use 12 to get him.
also it seems no one wants to rate the talls that may be available are there any talls you would be prepared to take at 12. id be happy at the prospect of 4.
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Leverde -slot straight into the midfield rotations
Keitel- slot straight in as a forward
Lonie- slot straight in as a small forward.
3 players that could make an impact next year and fill some serious holes in our side.
hmm laverde or degoey at 12. de goey has been the mid i have most wanted for months on end but i must admit i really am warming to the thought of de goey. i like kietel and could live with lonie at 52. reckon we could use 67 to get lonie though.
a question if you have a mind to answer it. what range do you rate tom lamb in. i really like so much about this kid but i dont know if id use 12 to get him.
also it seems no one wants to rate the talls that may be available are there any talls you would be prepared to take at 12. id be happy at the prospect of 4.
Oakleigg bloke doesn't last till 12 he reckons, goey
I think I'll cry if we call Ellis
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I like some of our r2 plus picks (a few) over the years but just for once how about the Tigers be the team that picks up that smokey that makes a real difference year 1. Every year one team or another seems to pick that player , well its our turn. I have no idea who that player is but my bet it would be a small/medium forward that could come in to our team and make the biggest difference straight away. I think thats what they were trying to do last year but I didnt come off. Stick to the kids this year, just maybe one will surprise.
Do you mean like Anthony Miles?
Not a kid I know but still...
Yeah like Miles but a kid on the main list. He was definitely a good find that many other teams overlooked but this thread is about our later picks on the main list and it's been a long time since one of them has made a immediate impact.
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From Brett Anderson latest updated phantom draft ...
33. Richmond - Daniel NIELSON
Eastern Ranges | 9/5/96 | H: 194cm | W: 92kg
Daniel is a competitive, one-on-one defender. His strength is nullifying one-on-one contests and clearing the footy. He boasts a great work ethic and has the closing speed to be effective against the lead. At the moment he’s your shut-down key back that every club needs to have. – Eastern Ranges talent manager Mark Neeld
In the mix: Lukas Webb, Toby McLean, Brayden Maynard
52. Richmond - Matthew GOODYEAR
Calder Cannons | 20/7/96 | H: 186cm | W: 80kg
Matt’s last three or four games of the year and finals put him back in genuine draft contention. He is an inside midfielder who can play outside, but he tried to go outside a bit more at Vic Metro. He can break out of a pack but his kicking needs a bit of improvement. If he can start to win the ball in tight and feed it out, or burst away and fix his kicking, he might go late. – Calder Cannons talent manager Ian Kyte
In the mix: Nathan Drummond, Dean Gore
67. Richmond - Nathan DRUMMOND
Murray Bushrangers | 19/2/95 | H: 182cm | W: 84kg
Nathan has come back as a 19-year-old to the Bushrangers after playing just a couple of games with us last year. Worked on all the areas he needed to and he’s one of those kids that has that rare double with speed and elite endurance. His testing at the combine was top 10 in every single area except one, including finishing second in a couple of them and a 15.9 in the beep test. Averaged 15 possessions in the TAC Cup and won clearances as a midfielder as well as having an impact up forward. Can play inside and outside without a worry after being more of an outside type earlier in his career because of his running capacity. A very level-headed and humble young man to go with all that, which he proved by coming back to us and knuckling down after missing out in the draft last year. For him to come and play the way he did this year showed great competitiveness and burning desire to make it and in the end he was rewarded by winning our best and fairest. – Murray Bushrangers coach Darren Ogier
In the mix: Jaden McGrath, Reece McKenzie
77. Richmond - Daniel CAPIRON
Dandenong Stingrays | 14/6/96 | H: 189cm | W: 83kg
He was consistent in the backline but because he was pulled in so many different directions – school football, Stingrays, Vic Country – it was a difficult year. He has a lot of upside and is going to go somewhere in life with his career as well as his football. He can be a bit of an over-thinker at times but he is a good player. – Stingrays talent manager Mark Wheeler
83. Richmond - Pass
Full phantom draft: http://www.sen.com.au/news/2014-afl-mock-draft-40
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I like some of our r2 plus picks (a few) over the years but just for once how about the Tigers be the team that picks up that smokey that makes a real difference year 1. Every year one team or another seems to pick that player , well its our turn. I have no idea who that player is but my bet it would be a small/medium forward that could come in to our team and make the biggest difference straight away. I think thats what they were trying to do last year but I didnt come off. Stick to the kids this year, just maybe one will surprise.
Do you mean like Anthony Miles?
Not a kid I know but still...
Yeah like Miles but a kid on the main list. He was definitely a good find that many other teams overlooked but this thread is about our later picks on the main list and it's been a long time since one of them has made a immediate impact.
in a similar vein. i really wanted us to chase mitch hallahan even before the trade period. i couldnt work out how we could be interested in greenwood and not be into hallahan. hallahan fit the so called criteria to a tee.
funny enough i wanted both boys in their draft yrs.
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According to RodneyDangerfield on BF, Under-19 Aussie Cricket captain Pat McKenna has spoken to us. He was encouraged to nominate for the draft by recruiters including ours apparently.
"So I asked Rod McPherson about him. He's from the area and I respect his opinion on junior talent more than anyone I can think of.
He was emphatic about him.
I think Mr Magic said he was compared to a Steve Johnson type and that's pretty much what Rod said.
Compared him to Breust.
He led the goalkicking from half forward in the seniors for Gisborne in the Bendigo league this year and kicked 9 in a game. Played one under 18 game and kicked 16.
McPherson reckons he's just a pure pure footballer with awesome kicking skills and awareness.
Still young enough that if he doesn't go this year can play TAC cup next year."
http://www.bigfooty.com/stuff-part-ii-picks-12-33-52-70-88-miles.1080191/reply?quote=36224693
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I would love for us to get Dean Gore were do people think he will go in the draft rd2 or rd3.
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I would love for us to get Dean Gore were do people think he will go in the draft rd2 or rd3.
I suspect if we want him we may have to bite in the 2nd. I could be way off, but my suspicion is the latest he'll go is to the Dogs in the 40s.
Then again guys like Cal Twomey have him going even further than that, so 3rd round may be possible.
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Some of the names linked to us at our later picks ...
STRONG CHANCES
Dan Howe (Yarrawonga): Impressive performances for Victoria Country, Richmond VFL and the Murray Bushrangers have him in line for a mid-to-late draft selection. Can play at both ends of the ground and capped off a great season with three goals in the elimination final.
Nathan Drummond (Mooroopna): Talented midfielder looks a good chance of being picked up in the 30 to 50 bracket. Won the John Byrne Medal as the Bushrangers’ best and fairest player this season. Played for Vic Country and Richmond’s VFL team and was clearly the best performer at the national draft combine, where he demonstrated his unique double of a 2.93 second 20-metre sprint and 15.9 beep test.
IN THE MIX
Nick Mellington (Benalla): The Bushrangers skipper suffered illness early in the year which inhibited his start to the season. Made up for lost ground with a stellar last part of the season, including two solid games with the Richmond VFL team. A big-bodied midfielder who wins his own ball and has a raking left-foot kick.
http://www.bordermail.com.au/story/2725534/tac-has-given-me-hope-howe/?cs=10