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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 04, 2016, 03:04:06 PM
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Callum Twomey's first phantom draft (top 20) for 2016:
We currently have pick 6 but could potentially drop to pick 4 if we fail to win any more games.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-04/callum-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-august-update
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Shaping the 8
:gotigers
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Shaping the 8
:gotigers
Yessssssssss :clapping
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Unless Brisbane are given a priority pick, it looks like either pick 6 or 7 will be our first pick. We can't finish any lower with Carlton and the Suns losing this weekend.
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That win against Collinwood was so valuable to our club
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That win against Collinwood was so valuable to our club
:clapping
The Richmond Way
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YOUR CLUB’S CURRENT DRAFT POSITION
RICHMOND 6, 42, 60
ADELAIDE 16, 52, 70
BRISBANE LIONS 2, 20, 27 (from StK via Coll), 47 (from NM), 56, 74
CARLTON 4, 22, 40, 48 (from WB)
COLLINGWOOD 25, 43, 61
ESSENDON 1, 19, 37, 55
FREMANTLE 3, 39, 57
GEELONG 33, 38 (from BL), 51, 69, 86 (from GWS)
GOLD COAST 5, 10 (from Melb), 21 (from Frem), 23, 24 (from Rich), 26 (from PA), 41, 59
GWS GIANTS 7 (from Coll), 14, 15 (from Geel via Carl), 32, 34 (from Adel), 50, 68
HAWTHORN 18, 36, 54, 72
MELBOURNE 28, 46, 64
NORTH MELB 11, 29, 63
PORT ADELAIDE 8, 44, 62
ST KILDA 9, 45, 63
SYDNEY 17, 35, 53
WEST COAST 13, 31, 49, 67
W BULLDOGS 12, 30, 58 (from Carl), 66, 71 (from Syd)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-order-2016-all-your-clubs-picks-in-the-national-draft/news-story/7425bdb82535683148e476cf76388919
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Time we had a thread...
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/tac-cup-finals-five-things-we-learnt-from-the-weekends-preliminary-finals/news-story/fbe33f79b700dec5cad425c8387bd387?from=public_rss
Like the look of Taranto...wonder if he'll still be there at pick 6...will we even still have pick 6...?
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Look for the players rated 20-30 and throw a dart. There's your FJ "special" parting gift
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Hopefully Balme will sit on him....literally.....
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Bendigo Pioneer and Tyntynder talent Kayle Kirby, 18, played two matches for Richmond’s VFL side this year and booted nine goals - he now has his sights set on November’s AFL National Draft.
“Playing at VFL level was a great experience,” Kirby said.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-23/tigers-hit-the-ground-for-richmond-academy
I wonder if we'll pick Kirby up with a late pick?
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The word is he'll still be available in the rookie draft...
....if we keep pick 6 and Taranto's still there I hope we grab him....
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He is only 18 ??
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Who - Taranto or Kirby? They usually are around that age in in the draft.
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RICHMOND will have first access to exciting goalkicker Kayle Kirby as part of its next generation academy if the Bendigo Pioneers product does not get selected in November's national or rookie drafts.
The Tigers have nominated the 18-year-old as one of five players they will be able to automatically list as category B rookies under the new indigenous and multicultural academies.
The Tigers will also have access to emerging ruckman Esava Ratugolea, who has a Fijian background, should he not be drafted and have also nominated indigenous prospect Jy Simpkin.
Simpkin has been injured for most of the year with a broken leg but is next to no chance to get through to the category B process. He is still likely to be a top-25 pick.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-05/tigers-eyeing-off-kayle-kirby-as-a-category-b-rookie
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Andrew McGrath for me if Brodie is gone by 6....
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Who is the best KPP in the draft?
We need someone to help either Rance or Jack.
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Andrew McGrath for me if Brodie is gone by 6....
McGrath tipped to go 1 or 2 at this stage...would take Taranto or Scrimshaw ahead of Brodie...
Who is the best KPP in the draft?
We need someone to help either Rance or Jack.
Forwards - Battle, Kerr, Marshall, Waterman, Sproule (GWS academy, bid required), Ratugolea (nominated as our academy pick if - will take if undrafted)
Rucks - McCarthy , Lynch, English
Defenders - Logue, Maibaum, McClarty (swingman),Macready (GWS academy, bid required), Rotham
...also Scrimshaw, who as I stated, would be more than happy with at pick 6 - can play KPD & midfield....
Next year is supposed to be a bumper draft for talls, far better than this year....
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Taranto or Scrimshaw ahead of Brodie...
I would take either based on name alone. Never trust someone with two first names
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Who - Taranto or Kirby? They usually are around that age in in the draft.
Kirby
I assumed he was 22 or something
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Early top 30 mock draft:
With a big game in the form of the Under-18 All-Stars game on Friday, and also the all-important National and State Combines, make sure to check back regularly to see who the big draft movers are. Could we have another Clayton Oliver or Nakia Cockatoo?
These rankings are based purely on player ability and don’t take into consideration the picks that each team holds, but they will form the basis of the full FP Phantom Drafts over the weeks to come.
1 Hugh McCluggage MID North Ballarat Rebels VIC C 185 75
2 Andrew McGrath DEF/MID Sandringham Dragons VIC M 179 75
3 Will Brodie MID Murray Bushrangers VIC C 189 82
4 Jack Bowes MID Surfers Paradise QLD 187 78
5 Ben Ainsworth MID/FWD Gippsland Power VIC C 179 74
6 Tim English stuff South Fremantle WA 203 86
7 Tim Taranto MID/FWD Sandringham Dragons VIC M 186 82
8 Will Setterfield MID Sandringham Dragons NSW / ACT 190 80
9 Sam Petrevski-Seton MID Claremont WA 181 76
10 Jack Scrimshaw DEF Sandringham Dragons VIC M 193 75
11 Todd Marshall FWD Murray Bushrangers VIC C 198 87
12 Harry Perryman MID Collingullie-GP NSW / ACT 184 75
13 Josh Battle FWD Dandenong Stingrays VIC C 192 90
14 Griffin Logue DEF Swan Districts WA 193 92
15 Daniel Venables MID/FWD Western Jets VIC M 186 81
16 Patrick Kerr FWD Oakleigh Chargers VIC M 194 93
17 Josh Rotham DEF West Perth WA 192 79
18 Oliver Florent MID Sandringham Dragons VIC M 183 84
19 Brad Scheer MID Palm Beach Currumbin QLD 184 83
20 Jy Simpkin FWD Murray Bushrangers VIC C 181 73
21 Jarrod Berry DEF/MID North Ballarat Rebels VIC C 191 80
22 Jordan Gallucci MID Eastern Ranges VIC M 183 75
23 Jordan Ridley DEF Oakleigh Chargers VIC M 192 79
24 Jonty Scharenberg MID Glenelg SA 185 78
25 Alex Witherden DEF Geelong Falcons VIC C 185 77
26 Willem Drew MID North Ballarat Rebels VIC C 188 78
27 Kobe Mutch MID Bendigo Pioneers NSW / ACT 184 79
28 Shai Bolton MID South Fremantle WA 177 67
29 Sam Walker DEF Glenelg SA 187 80
30 Harrison Macreadie DEF Hently NSW / ACT 195 82
http://footyprophet.com/2016-big-draft-board/
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If it's a typical Richmond draft it'll be:
First pick - Setterfield or Perryman (signaled to the entire footy world a month out from the draft of course)
Second pick - nobody we wanted or really needed (while players we did are taken by other clubs within the following 5 picks.)
Third pick and later - players we've neither heard of nor mentioned, a state leaguer aged 22-24, a pass when there's still some decent players on the board and rookie upgrades for Short & Castagna.
:gotigers
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All on the official website site a week before th draft-day
Incompetent stuff wits
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If it's a typical Richmond draft it'll be:
First pick - Setterfield or Perryman (signaled to the entire footy world a month out from the draft of course)
Second pick - nobody we wanted or really needed (while players we did are taken by other clubs within the following 5 picks.)
Third pick and later - players we've neither heard of nor mentioned, a state leaguer aged 22-24, a pass when there's still some decent players on the board and rookie upgrades for Short & Castagna.
:gotigers
nailed it :cheers
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If it's a typical Richmond draft it'll be:
First pick - Setterfield or Perryman (signaled to the entire footy world a month out from the draft of course)
Second pick - nobody we wanted or really needed (while players we did are taken by other clubs within the following 5 picks.)
Third pick and later - players we've neither heard of nor mentioned, a state leaguer aged 22-24, a pass when there's still some decent players on the board and rookie upgrades for Short & Castagna.
:gotigers
Followed by immediate self praise by the club.
"Oh look, We just couldnt believe our luck the players we wanted would be there at our selections. I know we say it every year, but we have recruited extremely well this year."
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Cream :bow
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Shaboogie
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(http://bp1.blogger.com/_QRzxifkj_bk/Rvm6e4zb1iI/AAAAAAAABA8/DKZedgLQN7k/s400/clapton-is-god.jpg)
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Bop
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Taranto now shaping as a top 4 pick (kicked 4 today).....
Maybe we should pick up Petrevski-Seton or English. Freo can't pick both!
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Yep doubt Taranto will still be there at 6 now...damnit...
..oh well, Hackson probably would've overlooked him anyway....
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Taranto is the man we need if he is still available :pray
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Taranto now shaping as a top 4 pick (kicked 4 today).....
Maybe we should pick up Petrevski-Seton or English. Freo can't pick both!
English was terrible today, his marking was Mcbean like , No thanks
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McCluggage & McGrath were impressive and a great display from Taranto too,reckon he'll still be there but if he's gone by our pick that just means another highly rated kid is available.
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Draft prospects Florent and Bolton star in All Stars clash
AFL.com.au
October 1, 2016
TEAM JUDD 4.1 9.2 12.4 15.7 (97)
TEAM O'LOUGHLIN 2.2 3.4 5.8 8.11 (59)
GOALS
Team Judd: McCluggage 4, Taranto 4, Hayward 2, Battle 2, Ainsworth, Bolton, Zurhaar
Team O'Loughlin: Davis 2, Waterman 2, Poholke, Clarke, Kerr, Sproule
BEST
Team Judd: Taranto, McCluggage, McGrath, Bolton, Powell-Pepper, Daicos
Team O'Loughlin: Florent, Petrevski-Seton, Brown, Scharenberg, Scrimshaw, Davis
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OLIVER Florent and Shai Bolton boosted their draft standings with standout performances in the NAB All Stars Under-18 clash at Punt Road Oval on Friday as a raft of highly rated prospects impressed.
In the first time the country's leading prospects have played in the Grand Final eve game, a packed crowd saw the Chris Judd side beat the Michael O'Loughlin team by 38 points, winning 15.7 (97) to 8.11 (59).
The former champions lent their names to the contest in ambassadorial roles.
Florent was judged the best player from the O'Loughlin side, which was coached by Tadhg Kennelly, after gathering 29 disposals and seven clearances.
The classy midfielder, who played in the Sandringham Dragons' TAC Cup premiership last weekend, also registered seven inside 50 entries, highlighting his run and carry and poise. Many clubs view him as a likely first-round choice at November's draft.
Bolton is also in that category, picking up 16 disposals and a goal in an exciting display. The West Australian can break open a game with his lightning speed, and can dazzle around goal with great smarts and creativity.
Bolton was one of many exceptional performers for the Judd side, including Gold Coast academy midfielder Jack Bowes (23 disposals), Collingwood father-son prospect Josh Daicos (18) and hardened WA midfielder Sam Powell-Pepper (18).
Sam Powell-Pepper in action on Friday. Picture: AFL Photos
Possible No.1 pick Hugh McCluggage again emphasized his brilliant skill with four goals from 17 disposals, proving his ability to push forward and hit the scoreboard from the midfield.
Clever midfielder Tim Taranto, also fresh from playing a key role in the Dragons' flag last week, continued his super end to the season with 19 disposals and four goals to be judged the best player from the Judd side.
Taranto's propensity to step up at the big moments in a game has seen him rise in the eyes of many recruiters, which some seeing him as a top-10 selection.
Tim Taranto impressed to underline top-10 credentials. Picture: AFL Photos
Weakened by the loss of injured pair Will Brodie (ankle) and Will Setterfield (AC joint), the O'Loughlin side was jumped early and trailed by 11 points at quarter-time.
The Judd team kicked five goals to one in the second term to take a 34-point lead into half-time. It stayed around the same margin for the rest of the contest, which was played in an open and free-flowing fashion,
Sam Petrevski-Seton (23 disposals, eight tackles) pieced together a classy game through the midfield for the O'Loughlin side, while possible Pies father-son pick Callum Brown (21) and South Australian midfielder Jonty Scharenberg (20) were also solid.
Ben Davis, the younger brother of Sydney Swans utility Abe, kicked two goals from 10 disposals but showed flashes of his talent in attack in the final under-18 game of the season.
Clubs will have a closer look at next year's draft pool on Saturday when the 2017 prospects face off in the NAB All Stars under-17 clash at Punt Road Oval.
AFL.com.au will be live streaming the game from 10.30am AEDT.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-30/draft-prospects-florent-and-bolton-star-in-all-stars-clash
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From Inside Football's Brett Anderson's twitter:
"its pretty even – as we saw today. No standout (even more so that there aren't any talls)...so trade to double dip.
There are 7 potential draftees that could go pick 1 - McGrath, McCluggage, Bowes, Scrimshaw, Petrevski-Seton, Brodie, Ainsworth. Could even throw in English at a stretch.
Clubs are going to see it in different ways with their order."
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/
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From Inside Football's Brett Anderson's twitter:
"its pretty even – as we saw today. No standout (even more so that there aren't any talls)...so trade to double dip.
There are 7 potential draftees that could go pick 1 - McGrath, McCluggage, Bowes, Scrimshaw, Petrevski-Seton, Brodie, Ainsworth. Could even throw in English at a stretch.
Clubs are going to see it in different ways with their order."
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/
Pick 6 sounds a good place to be
No doubt we will trade it for some idiot
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From Inside Football's Brett Anderson's twitter:
"There are 7 potential draftees that could go pick 1 - McGrath, McCluggage, Bowes, Scrimshaw, Petrevski-Seton, Brodie, Ainsworth. Could even throw in English at a stretch.
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https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/
Any of those would be a good outcome for us but I reckon all 4 gone by pick 6, English won't go as high as some predicted a he was found out in the all stars game.
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From Inside Football's Brett Anderson's twitter:
"its pretty even – as we saw today. No standout (even more so that there aren't any talls)...so trade to double dip.
There are 7 potential draftees that could go pick 1 - McGrath, McCluggage, Bowes, Scrimshaw, Petrevski-Seton, Brodie, Ainsworth. Could even throw in English at a stretch.
Clubs are going to see it in different ways with their order."
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/
Pick 6 sounds a good place to be
No doubt we will trade it for some idiot
Downgraded to a pick in the 20s for some Hartley random 'gem', with no due diligence on injury and mental health.
Pick in the 20s for the next introverted Elton/Cleve Hughes type.
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And then take too many eccies - play chicken with a tram
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From Inside Football's Brett Anderson's twitter:
"There are 7 potential draftees that could go pick 1 - McGrath, McCluggage, Bowes, Scrimshaw, Petrevski-Seton, Brodie, Ainsworth. Could even throw in English at a stretch.
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https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/
Any of those would be a good outcome for us but I reckon all 4 gone by pick 6, English won't go as high as some predicted a he was found out in the all stars game.
At 203cm, you would not expect him to be as developed as the rest. May become the best of the bunch in 5 years. :shh
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Presuming we trade for top 40 picks, I hope Pepper-Powell's still there at our second, like the look of him last year too when he played in the champs as an under ager - this year's Dunkley.... :shh
Other's I'd be happy with at our second pick are Atley, Scharenberg, Paholke & Hayward....
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I really like the look of Hayward too. Scrimshaw and Florent will all go in the first round you would think. Pepper-Powell would be a good get too. Kicking is a bit iffy but he gets the ball which is just so important.
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One thing that is pretty clear, we need more picks.
Lennon, Conca, BEllis, Griff, Edwards, Vickery, Grigg, Houli should all be offered up regardless of their contract status.
I know they have to agree to be traded but surely if a club wants to trade you, you cannot hang around. The club just needs to strong and potentially say you won't get much opportunity here if you don't go. Time for making friends needs to be over.
Balme hasn't got any connection to any players as yet, let him be the one to make the tough calls.
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I really like the look of Hayward too. Scrimshaw and Florent will all go in the first round you would think. Pepper-Powell would be a good get too. Kicking is a bit iffy but he gets the ball which is just so important.
Yeah that's why he reminds me of Dunkley last year - his kicking was a lot better on Friday but he'll probably still slide to the second round because of it......(before Friday some were even saying third round.)
Not sold on Florent...reminds me of Fiora, maybe it's just the similar surname......Taranto closely followed Scrimshaw are my preferred first picks.... I wouldn't be unhappy with Brodie though....wonder if missing the match will see him slide a place or two?
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One thing that is pretty clear, we need more picks.
Lennon, Conca, BEllis, Griff, Edwards, Vickery, Grigg, Houli should all be offered up regardless of their contract status.
I know they have to agree to be traded but surely if a club wants to trade you, you cannot hang around. The club just needs to strong and potentially say you won't get much opportunity here if you don't go. Time for making friends needs to be over.
Balme hasn't got any connection to any players as yet, let him be the one to make the tough calls.
You can't offer up players after they've been extended bt.
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One thing that is pretty clear, we need more picks.
Lennon, Conca, BEllis, Griff, Edwards, Vickery, Grigg, Houli should all be offered up regardless of their contract status.
I know they have to agree to be traded but surely if a club wants to trade you, you cannot hang around. The club just needs to strong and potentially say you won't get much opportunity here if you don't go. Time for making friends needs to be over.
Balme hasn't got any connection to any players as yet, let him be the one to make the tough calls.
You can't offer up players after they've been extended bt.
Where does it say that?
I've heard differently
So if you extend a contract, you cannot trade them? Ever?
Even if both parties agree to the trade? I find that hard to believe?
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One thing that is pretty clear, we need more picks.
Lennon, Conca, BEllis, Griff, Edwards, Vickery, Grigg, Houli should all be offered up regardless of their contract status.
I know they have to agree to be traded but surely if a club wants to trade you, you cannot hang around. The club just needs to strong and potentially say you won't get much opportunity here if you don't go. Time for making friends needs to be over.
Balme hasn't got any connection to any players as yet, let him be the one to make the tough calls.
You can't offer up players after they've been extended bt.
Where does it say that?
I've heard differently
So if you extend a contract, you cannot trade them? Ever?
Even if both parties agree to the trade? I find that hard to believe?
Twelve months.
Why would a player agree to a trade if he has just signed a contract extending his playing career? It can happen if both parties agree but that is unlikely.
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One thing that is pretty clear, we need more picks.
Lennon, Conca, BEllis, Griff, Edwards, Vickery, Grigg, Houli should all be offered up regardless of their contract status.
I know they have to agree to be traded but surely if a club wants to trade you, you cannot hang around. The club just needs to strong and potentially say you won't get much opportunity here if you don't go. Time for making friends needs to be over.
Balme hasn't got any connection to any players as yet, let him be the one to make the tough calls.
You can't offer up players after they've been extended bt.
Where does it say that?
I've heard differently
So if you extend a contract, you cannot trade them? Ever?
Even if both parties agree to the trade? I find that hard to believe?
Twelve months.
Why would a player agree to a trade if he has just signed a contract extending his playing career? It can happen if both parties agree but that is unlikely.
It can happen, things change, teams change, players change.
Gibbs signed a long term contract but now potentially wants to go home. It can happen.
If we went and got Darling, and thought Griff was a waste, then you would trade him if someone wanted him bad enough.
So are you saying its in the AFL rules/contract or is it just unlikely in your opinion?
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One thing that is pretty clear, we need more picks.
Lennon, Conca, BEllis, Griff, Edwards, Vickery, Grigg, Houli should all be offered up regardless of their contract status.
I know they have to agree to be traded but surely if a club wants to trade you, you cannot hang around. The club just needs to strong and potentially say you won't get much opportunity here if you don't go. Time for making friends needs to be over.
Balme hasn't got any connection to any players as yet, let him be the one to make the tough calls.
You can't offer up players after they've been extended bt.
Where does it say that?
I've heard differently
So if you extend a contract, you cannot trade them? Ever?
Even if both parties agree to the trade? I find that hard to believe?
Twelve months.
Why would a player agree to a trade if he has just signed a contract extending his playing career? It can happen if both parties agree but that is unlikely.
It can happen, things change, teams change, players change.
Gibbs signed a long term contract but now potentially wants to go home. It can happen.
If we went and got Darling, and thought Griff was a waste, then you would trade him if someone wanted him bad enough.
So are you saying its in the AFL rules/contract or is it just unlikely in your opinion?
The rules don't allow you to trade a player you've just signed up unless they want to go too. The circumstances which would make this likely are also rare. Maybe if the player wasn't getting senior playing time (e.g. Longer) they could be tempted to agree to tear up the contract and ask for a trade.
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Presuming we trade for top 40 picks, I hope Pepper-Powell's still there at our second, like the look of him last year too when he played in the champs as an under ager - this year's Dunkley.... :shh
Other's I'd be happy with at our second pick are Atley, Scharenberg, Paholke & Hayward....
Poholke's brother is a pretty handy forward in the local leagues - offered a lot of money to coach too
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Twelve months.
Why would a player agree to a trade if he has just signed a contract extending his playing career? It can happen if both parties agree but that is unlikely.
That's the same with all trades
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Twelve months.
Why would a player agree to a trade if he has just signed a contract extending his playing career? It can happen if both parties agree but that is unlikely.
That's the same with all trades
True, but the club isn't allow to shop them around if they've just extended.
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Twelve months.
Why would a player agree to a trade if he has just signed a contract extending his playing career? It can happen if both parties agree but that is unlikely.
That's the same with all trades
Exactly.
The Doc is making no sense. :lol
"A player cannot be traded inside of 12 months" but they can if they agree. ???
Come on Doc!
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Twelve months.
Why would a player agree to a trade if he has just signed a contract extending his playing career? It can happen if both parties agree but that is unlikely.
That's the same with all trades
True, but the club isn't allow to shop them around if they've just extended.
Now you are getting worse!
How would anyone know if the Tigers said to WCE, "do you want Griff?"
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Doc is right, rarely if ever do you see a player sign and then that same year get traded. The following year sure, but that year I can't recall it happeneing and there is a rule stopping it unless both parties get exemption from the AFL. If we've signed someone we won't be trading them this year, we may not like it but that's what happens
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Doc is right, rarely if ever do you see a player sign and then that same year get traded. The following year sure, but that year I can't recall it happeneing and there is a rule stopping it unless both parties get exemption from the AFL. If we've signed someone we won't be trading them this year, we may not like it but that's what happens
That's a big difference from saying it cannot happen due to an AFL rule.
Cameron McCarthy would have done it last year if GWS were willing. Things change in people's life and things change in footy clubs.
Let's be honest, contracts in the AFL aren't worth the paper they are written on.
Billy Longer is another that will most likely move this trade period after signing a new contract only a couple of months ago.
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That's a big difference from saying it cannot happen due to an AFL rule.
Exactly, and the rule around it (both players agreeing) is the exact same for all players whether signed on 12+ months prior or out of contract
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6, 26, 42, 60
Would love to get a late first for lids to trade to to GC.
Keep current pucks and trade out a few players and get ourselves some more picks in 20s and 30s
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6, 26, 42, 60
Would love to get a late first for lids to trade to to GC.
Keep current pucks and trade out a few players and get ourselves some more picks in 20s and 30s
Yep, maybe Lennon, Edwards out for late first rounders/early second rounders and Conca for Nankervis is the rumour? Then just FO Yarran and free up the list spot and I'll be pretty happy with our return. Of couirse we then have to go the draft and wtf knows what we'll do there
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The hawks tried to offload Bruest and Smith to help gain Mitchell and O'Meara. both told Hawthorn they were not prepared to move anywhere.
Seems to me if players dont want to go somewhere or leave they get their way.
It is a double edged sword waving a big stick at players and totally unprofessional but hey we are talking the RFC HERE SO ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
6, 26, 42, 60
Would love to get a late first for lids to trade to to GC.
Keep current pucks and trade out a few players and get ourselves some more picks in 20s and 30s
any ideas on how we can finish up with 5, 6, 26, 27, 35, 42, 50 and 60.or something along those lines.
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Would be nice if we could get it Claw but I don't think it'll happen. Think we need to just add a pick between 10-25 at a minimum when you factor in the lack of quality we have on the trade table
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The hawks tried to offload Bruest and Smith to help gain Mitchell and O'Meara. both told Hawthorn they were not prepared to move anywhere.
Seems to me if players dont want to go somewhere or leave they get their way.
It is a double edged sword waving a big stick at players and totally unprofessional but hey we are talking the RFC HERE SO ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
6, 26, 42, 60
Would love to get a late first for lids to trade to to GC.
Keep current pucks and trade out a few players and get ourselves some more picks in 20s and 30s
any ideas on how we can finish up with 5, 6, 26, 27, 35, 42, 50 and 60.or something along those lines.
Ok Ill have a hypothetical stab...
5( Cotchin), 6, 26 (compo) 27 (Ellis) 35 (Lennon) 30(SEdwards 42, 50(Conca)60
I think something like that would be a reasonable return, think too often people expect 1sr rounders for all our players
*not saying we should trade Cotchin, just answering your question
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RICHMOND will have first access to exciting goalkicker Kayle Kirby as part of its next generation academy if the Bendigo Pioneers product does not get selected in November's national or rookie drafts.
The Tigers have nominated the 18-year-old as one of five players they will be able to automatically list as category B rookies under the new indigenous and multicultural academies.
The Tigers will also have access to emerging ruckman Esava Ratugolea, who has a Fijian background, should he not be drafted and have also nominated indigenous prospect Jy Simpkin.
Simpkin has been injured for most of the year with a broken leg but is next to no chance to get through to the category B process. He is still likely to be a top-25 pick.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-05/tigers-eyeing-off-kayle-kirby-as-a-category-b-rookie
Mail from draft combine is that Kirby won't get drafted
Why ?
Skin folds were terrible
And didn't beep test
So he might fall our way
Was far from impressive
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RICHMOND will have first access to exciting goalkicker Kayle Kirby as part of its next generation academy if the Bendigo Pioneers product does not get selected in November's national or rookie drafts.
The Tigers have nominated the 18-year-old as one of five players they will be able to automatically list as category B rookies under the new indigenous and multicultural academies.
The Tigers will also have access to emerging ruckman Esava Ratugolea, who has a Fijian background, should he not be drafted and have also nominated indigenous prospect Jy Simpkin.
Simpkin has been injured for most of the year with a broken leg but is next to no chance to get through to the category B process. He is still likely to be a top-25 pick.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-05/tigers-eyeing-off-kayle-kirby-as-a-category-b-rookie
Mail from draft combine is that Kirby won't get drafted
Why ?
Skin folds were terrible
And didn't beep test
So he might fall our way
Was far from impressive
Bingo!
He will fit right in.
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RICHMOND will have first access to exciting goalkicker Kayle Kirby as part of its next generation academy if the Bendigo Pioneers product does not get selected in November's national or rookie drafts.
The Tigers have nominated the 18-year-old as one of five players they will be able to automatically list as category B rookies under the new indigenous and multicultural academies.
The Tigers will also have access to emerging ruckman Esava Ratugolea, who has a Fijian background, should he not be drafted and have also nominated indigenous prospect Jy Simpkin.
Simpkin has been injured for most of the year with a broken leg but is next to no chance to get through to the category B process. He is still likely to be a top-25 pick.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-05/tigers-eyeing-off-kayle-kirby-as-a-category-b-rookie
Mail from draft combine is that Kirby won't get drafted
Why ?
Skin folds were terrible
And didn't beep test
So he might fall our way
Was far from impressive
Excellent
Well done young msn :clapping
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All part of the plan :whistle
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We seriously need to be trading some of our players for picks inside of 40
BEllis, Lennon, Conca, Edwards
Trade away I say
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We seriously need to be trading some of our players for picks inside of 40
BEllis, Lennon, Conca, Edwards
Trade away I say
Someone gotta want 'em
3 of the 4 are contracted so they have to agree
Id trade all 4 to get picks but (sigh) someone's gotta want 'em
And we also need to not be greedy and think someone's worth more than what they actually are ;D
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RICHMOND will have first access to exciting goalkicker Kayle Kirby as part of its next generation academy if the Bendigo Pioneers product does not get selected in November's national or rookie drafts.
The Tigers have nominated the 18-year-old as one of five players they will be able to automatically list as category B rookies under the new indigenous and multicultural academies.
The Tigers will also have access to emerging ruckman Esava Ratugolea, who has a Fijian background, should he not be drafted and have also nominated indigenous prospect Jy Simpkin.
Simpkin has been injured for most of the year with a broken leg but is next to no chance to get through to the category B process. He is still likely to be a top-25 pick.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-05/tigers-eyeing-off-kayle-kirby-as-a-category-b-rookie
Mail from draft combine is that Kirby won't get drafted
Why ?
Skin folds were terrible
And didn't beep test
So he might fall our way
Was far from impressive
Bingo!
He will fit right in.
Still better than Conca....
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RICHMOND will have first access to exciting goalkicker Kayle Kirby as part of its next generation academy if the Bendigo Pioneers product does not get selected in November's national or rookie drafts.
The Tigers have nominated the 18-year-old as one of five players they will be able to automatically list as category B rookies under the new indigenous and multicultural academies.
The Tigers will also have access to emerging ruckman Esava Ratugolea, who has a Fijian background, should he not be drafted and have also nominated indigenous prospect Jy Simpkin.
Simpkin has been injured for most of the year with a broken leg but is next to no chance to get through to the category B process. He is still likely to be a top-25 pick.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-05/tigers-eyeing-off-kayle-kirby-as-a-category-b-rookie
Mail from draft combine is that Kirby won't get drafted
Why ?
Skin folds were terrible
And didn't beep test
So he might fall our way
Was far from impressive
Send him to the fat farm in Thailand. Send Tom Couch with him as insurance! :shh
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RICHMOND will have first access to exciting goalkicker Kayle Kirby as part of its next generation academy if the Bendigo Pioneers product does not get selected in November's national or rookie drafts.
The Tigers have nominated the 18-year-old as one of five players they will be able to automatically list as category B rookies under the new indigenous and multicultural academies.
The Tigers will also have access to emerging ruckman Esava Ratugolea, who has a Fijian background, should he not be drafted and have also nominated indigenous prospect Jy Simpkin.
Simpkin has been injured for most of the year with a broken leg but is next to no chance to get through to the category B process. He is still likely to be a top-25 pick.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-05/tigers-eyeing-off-kayle-kirby-as-a-category-b-rookie
Mail from draft combine is that Kirby won't get drafted
Why ?
Skin folds were terrible
And didn't beep test
So he might fall our way
Was far from impressive
Excellent
Well done young msn :clapping
Agreed good boy
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RICHMOND will have first access to exciting goalkicker Kayle Kirby as part of its next generation academy if the Bendigo Pioneers product does not get selected in November's national or rookie drafts.
The Tigers have nominated the 18-year-old as one of five players they will be able to automatically list as category B rookies under the new indigenous and multicultural academies.
The Tigers will also have access to emerging ruckman Esava Ratugolea, who has a Fijian background, should he not be drafted and have also nominated indigenous prospect Jy Simpkin.
Simpkin has been injured for most of the year with a broken leg but is next to no chance to get through to the category B process. He is still likely to be a top-25 pick.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-05/tigers-eyeing-off-kayle-kirby-as-a-category-b-rookie
Mail from draft combine is that Kirby won't get drafted
Why ?
Skin folds were terrible
And didn't beep test
So he might fall our way
Was far from impressive
Bingo!
He will fit right in.
Still better than Conca....
And slimmer
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Maybe it's for the best with Kirby. If he was fit, he probably wouldnt slip through to the rookie draft. He has enough natural talent to roll the dice with a rookie pick.
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Maybe it's for the best with Kirby. If he was fit, he probably wouldnt slip through to the rookie draft. He has enough natural talent to roll the dice with a rookie pick.
Dare we suggest we've been in his ear to load up and tank the combines? :shh
nah we're too politically correct to pull something like that
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Telling a guy that's prone to health risks to go on supersize me diet?
:shh
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RFC has just announced that they will not be participating in the 2016 draft. All picks traded for star players unbelievably undervalued by their respective sides who the Tigers believe will thrive under their elite development regime.
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Callum Twomey has Callum Brown (Collingwood F/S) at Pick 27 in his latest Phantom Draft. So ignoring him, those that may still be available at pick 27 for us are:
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Phantom-Form-Slide-oct182811.jpg)
POS: Key forward, Ht 194cm, Wt 93kg, DOB 31/7/98
From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Kerr led the under-18 championships for marks on the lead, which indicates how he plays. The Oakleigh Chargers goalkicker is a traditional key forward who enjoys to lead out of the goalsquare, take his marks and go back and slot goals. He's reasonably aggressive, and has a solid body on him that isn't afraid to crash into packs and bring the ball to ground. There is maybe a slight query on his pace but he posted a time of 3.03 seconds for the 20-metre sprint at the combine but his agility was among the lowest.
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Phantom-Form-Slide-oct182911.jpg)
POS: Tall defender, Ht 194cm, Wt 90kg, DOB 13/8/98
From Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia
Cox won All Australian honours for his performances in the under-18 carnival, where he gave good rebound and run from defence. The 18-year-old from Woodville-West Torrens is good overhead and moves well at ground level and shows plenty of promise. Cox goes well in one-on-one contests and you can see some clubs looking at him in the second round as a developing tall back.
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Phantom-Form-Slide-oct183011.jpg)
POS: Defender, Ht 192cm, Wt 79kg, DOB 25/2/98
From West Perth/Western Australia
There was no surprises in Rotham's 20-metre sprint result at the combine, which saw him place in the top-three overall (2.92 seconds). The West Australian defender's speed off the mark is his point of difference: it gives him great separation and also allows him to close space on an opponent in quick time. Rotham is a good overhead mark and strong athletically, but needs to build up his body to be able to take on some key forwards he'll come up against.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-13/callum-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-october-edition
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Myles Poholke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdVgHCR07J4
Jonty Scharenberg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swvSZbSTyEM
Joe Atley:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ4WpgEN-dw
Sam Powell-Pepper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ov-G-c87-s
Will Hayward:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEMMhc6krYk
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Powell Pepper looks like a gun - reminds me of (plays like) Dusty!!!
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Plays like Dusty but could slide because he kicks like Dunkley....will still be lucky if he's still there...then of course we have to get over the hurdle of our eagle-eyed recruiters... him or Poholke I'd be most happy with at 27, probably followed by Hayward....
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Pepper-Powell is no chance of being there at 27. He is also a very good kick and regularly kicks goals on the run from 50m. Will go between 12 and 20
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His field kicking was atrocious this year.......depending on academy & f/s bidding there's an outside chance he could still be there....(and if he is and our recruiters still overlook him then they should be sacked on the spot.)
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His field kicking was atrocious this year.......depending on academy & f/s bidding there's an outside chance he could still be there....(and if he is and our recruiters still overlook him then they should be sacked on the spot.)
I reckon I might have seen a little more of him this year than your goodself and trust me his kicking is fine.
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Sam Powell-Pepper kicking efficiency:
U18 champs: 45.2% (comp average 60.6%)
WAFL: 44.1% (comp average 61.5%)
For comparison - Josh Dunkley's KE in the TAC Cup last year was around 50%.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-22/in-the-gun-every-clubs-top-draft-target
(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/RICH-sb-AFLM.jpg)
Pick 27: It has been a swift rise up the draft board for Cedric Cox this year, having moved from Western Australia to Camperdown last year before playing for the North Ballarat Rebels in 2016. Cox played his best footy as a rebounding half-back, where his pace and skill impressed. He also moved up the ground and onto the wing, and occasionally across half-forward, where he was able to highlight his versatility. He seems likely to be a second-round selection.
Around the mark: Pat Kerr, Sam Powell-Pepper, Jordan Ridley
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Poholke's field kicking isn't that crash hot either, pretty sure it was under 50% for the championships.
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Hayward for me. Need another goal kicker. Impressed in the Judd vs O'Loughlin game. Cooly slotted a few through from a distance.
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Poholke's field kicking isn't that crash hot either, pretty sure it was under 50% for the championships.
The best mids that'll likely be available at 27 are fairly similar.......good contested players with questionable kicking....Powell-Pepper, Poholke, Atley.......Dunkley -types...Scharenberg probably the exception - has good disposal amd makes good decisions but is slow as treacle ....kind of like a tall Sam Mitchell....
Reckon at the worst we should end up with another Shane Tuck type out of that lot.......
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Hayward for me. Need another goal kicker. Impressed in the Judd vs O'Loughlin game. Cooly slotted a few through from a distance.
My third choice behind Powell-Pepper & Poholke....but next year's crop of KPP's will be better and we'll have at least two higher picks (for now anyway)...Richards as a DFA should tie us over until then - gives us coverage at both ends, GF experience and is ready to go.... :shh
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Peter Piper picked Powell-Pepper and Poholkes pooper
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Peter Piper picked Powell-Pepper and Poholkes pooper
:lol :lol
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Myles Poholke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdVgHCR07J4
Jonty Scharenberg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swvSZbSTyEM
Joe Atley:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ4WpgEN-dw
Sam Powell-Pepper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ov-G-c87-s
Will Hayward:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEMMhc6krYk
From that lot I liked Hayward and Pepper. The others looked crap from those highlights.
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Sheehan said players like Rioli, the cousin of Richmond’s Daniel and Hawthorn’s Cyril, showed the comprehensive depth in the 2017 draft crop.
Clubs like Carlton plan to take as many as seven picks to cash in on the depth of talent.
“There are not a lot of talls early in the draft but the midfielders taken early are ready to run. It won’t take clubs long to debut those boys,’’ Sheehan said.
“When we talk about depth there are definitely 15 to 20 of those boys at the state screenings you could see being drafted.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/willie-rioli-set-to-join-cousins-daniel-and-cyril-in-the-afl/news-story/06fb8392aab717f599cb18a122ec873f
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Tigers focus on National Draft
Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
October 26, 2016
“We’ll reassess this year’s draft now that our first pick doesn’t come in until 27,” said the Tigers’ General Manager – Football Talent, Dan Richardson.
“We’ve certainly stocked up on draft picks for 2017 . . .
“Both drafts look like being strong drafts, so we’re confident we’ll get some good players in.
“More than likely now it comes down to best available, but we’ll need to spend some time working through that in the lead-up to the National Draft at the end of November.”
The Tigers hold picks 27, 56, 82 and 100 in the draft, after trading for talented, mature-age midfield recruits Dion Prestia (Gold Coast) and Josh Caddy (Geelong).
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-10-26/tigers-focus-on-national-draft-jrz
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Can we trade next years draft picks for this year with another club, eg our pick 6 next year for someones pick 6 this year?
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https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2016-draft.1129712/page-83#post-47726185
:huh
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https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2016-draft.1129712/page-83#post-47726185
:huh
Slightly worrying
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One would assume/hope as a late pick....
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Though this is FJ's last draft in charge so he could well be our first or second pick.....
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So if we maintain the 39/5 list we'll only have 2 live picks, Short upgrade & 2 rookie picks...not counting category B rookies.....
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I already have 0 expectations for this draft anyway.
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2 seems apt only considering the picks we have
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Why is the article in today's Age about Whitfield saying we traded our 2017 1st rounder to GWS. That's BS we didn't do that?
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Why is the article in today's Age about Whitfield saying we traded our 2017 1st rounder to GWS. That's BS we didn't do that?
We traded our future 2nd IFRC.
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SO if GWS lose their picks as Caro suggests they might ours would then be if 25, 49 & 70....
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SO if GWS lose their picks as Caro suggests they might ours would then be if 25, 49 & 70....
Surely we'd get some form of compensation
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Well yes considering clubs have all made list management decisions on the basis of thinking they had lower picks.......won't happen though...
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Seems if they are stripped of draft picks it will ony be 15 & 37...so we'll effectively only move up one spot in each of our three active picks.....gyped again....
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Seems if they are stripped of draft picks it will ony be 15 & 37...so we'll effectively only move up one spot in each of our three active picks.....gyped again....
Incorrect. Our pick in the late 50's will drop by 6 to 8 picks as GWS will need more picks for their academy players
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Astute list management :clapping
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Seems if they are stripped of draft picks it will ony be 15 & 37...so we'll effectively only move up one spot in each of our three active picks.....gyped again....
why not take pick 2 off them as well?
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I think we all know why.....
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Seems if they are stripped of draft picks it will ony be 15 & 37...so we'll effectively only move up one spot in each of our three active picks.....gyped again....
Incorrect. Our pick in the late 50's will drop by 6 to 8 picks as GWS will need more picks for their academy players
They can still go into points deficit next year if they want...
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Seems if they are stripped of draft picks it will ony be 15 & 37...so we'll effectively only move up one spot in each of our three active picks.....gyped again....
Incorrect. Our pick in the late 50's will drop by 6 to 8 picks as GWS will need more picks for their academy players
They can still go into points deficit next year if they want...
Only once they've used all their picks with points from this year though
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fair enough....
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Any news on Kayle Kirby?
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Any news on Kayle Kirby?
Still overweight but can play. Hope we use a late pick or rookie him.
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was impressed with him in the Sandringham game
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Tipped by some to go as early as the 40's and by others as a rookie pick.......would prefer Willie Rioli.......be good if we could get both but with our wonderful list manglers thinking it's more important we keep the likes of Rehab Conca, Cooked Ivan, Batch the Hack & VFL Lambert, we're left with stuff all room to play with....
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Inside Football's Brett Anderson's Top 50 draft prospects:
Picks 1-25: https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/11/17/top-50-prospects-for-2016-afl-draft-1-25/
Picks 26-50: https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/11/14/top-50-prospects-for-2016-afl-draft-26-50/
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was impressed with him in the Sandringham game
great VFL debut, made an even better one the week after @ PRO
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Richmond will have three picks in the draft: 27, 56 & 78.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-19/indicative-2016-afl-draft-order
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So only two players & the Short upgrade?
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So only two players & the Short upgrade?
3 + short
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But it says:
Rookie list promotions are included among the compulsory minimum of three selections that each club must have at the draft, but the names of these players will not be formally read out at the draft.
...and we're listed as only having three picks? Though by my reckoning we should have a max. four draft picks, including Short, depending on what we decide to do with the rookie list....
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But it says:
Rookie list promotions are included among the compulsory minimum of three selections that each club must have at the draft, but the names of these players will not be formally read out at the draft.
...and we're listed as only having three picks? Though by my reckoning we should have a max. four draft picks, including Short, depending on what we decide to do with the rookie list....
We currently have 37 on the main list including Short, I'm amusing we will take a full compliment of 40 into the season
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Shifter Sheehan's Top 40:
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2016-11-18/shifter-sheehans-draft-top-40
and Emma Quayle's Top 30:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/emma-quayles-top-30-draft-rankings-20161113-gso7vw.html
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From Brett Anderson's twitter:
Understand that 18 prospects are heading up to Sydney for the 2016 #AFLDraft. A late invite always possible though!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxsUvZmVQAAhGO8.jpg)
Not everyone's 1st pick is invited. They make sure they get the top 10, then a few others that are in the mix in top 15 or so.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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But it says:
Rookie list promotions are included among the compulsory minimum of three selections that each club must have at the draft, but the names of these players will not be formally read out at the draft.
...and we're listed as only having three picks? Though by my reckoning we should have a max. four draft picks, including Short, depending on what we decide to do with the rookie list....
We currently have 37 on the main list including Short, I'm amusing we will take a full compliment of 40 into the season
Richmond 37 players plus 3 (+1 cat B) rookies.
https://www.draftguru.com.au/lists/2017
Can draft either:
3 players in the National Draft plus 1 in the rookie draft,
OR
2 players in the National Draft plus 2 in the rookie draft.
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Shifter Sheehan's Top 40:
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2016-11-18/shifter-sheehans-draft-top-40
and Emma Quayle's Top 30:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/emma-quayles-top-30-draft-rankings-20161113-gso7vw.html
Geez I sincerely hope Sheehan's the one who's on the money there....I highly doubt he will be though....
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Shifter Sheehan's Top 40:
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2016-11-18/shifter-sheehans-draft-top-40
and Emma Quayle's Top 30:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/emma-quayles-top-30-draft-rankings-20161113-gso7vw.html
Geez I sincerely hope Sheehan's the one who's on the money there....I highly doubt he will be though....
Unless the recruiters team up to draft in alphabetical order, I would guess that won't be the order.
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Ah damn didn't even notice that - just quickly scrolled down to 27.......haha knew it was too good to be true...
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So only two players & the Short upgrade?
3 + short
2 in the main + Short and leave room for a PSD pick if we want it?
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Gary Buckenara’s top 50 players for the AFL draft 2016: Part one, 50-26
GARY BUCKENARA,
Herald Sun
November 22, 2016
THIS year’s draft is a deep one in terms of talent but it’s very even talent and anything could happen on the night.
It is full of midfielders and forwards and there are also some good rebound defender types but key position players are going to be a bit hard to come by in this year’s crop.
There aren’t a lot of ruckmen in the field either — there are a couple of developing types and a few who have played at state-league level but there isn’t a lot. So those clubs searching for either a developing or back-up ruckman might find it a little bit difficult.
It wouldn’t surprise me if my rankings are off in areas, even by about 20, that’s what I mean by how even this year’s draft is. It’s just one of those years where beauty might be in the eye of the beholder.
Josh Daicos is available to Collingwood as a father-son selection. Picture: Steve Tanner
If you approached clubs and asked the recruiters to write down their top 50 players, I suspect they will all be in different orders, particularly after pick No.20 and even potentially after pick No.15.
They might rate a player really highly but another club has him rated between pick Nos.40-50. It’s going to be really interesting.
Potentially this is a draft where all 18 clubs, except Hawthorn who don’t pick until No.81 (as per the league’s final draft order), will go for best available at their first selection and even their second rather than possibly taking a player based on needs.
I have compiled a list of the players I rate as the best 50 in this year’s draft, in order. Below is the list from 26-50 — stayed tuned for 1-25 on Wednesday.
DRAFT TOP 50 PART ONE: 26-50
50. BEN JARMAN
Small midfielder/forward, 175cm, 68kg, North Adelaide/Koonibba
Buckenara says: Both Adelaide and Hawthorn have opted not to nominate Jarman as a father-son so he’s available in the open draft and I think this is about where he sits. He’s a clever player who can make things happen. I wouldn’t say he’s in his dad’s mould, he’s got a lot of development to get to that level but he’s a footballer that knows what’s going on — he’s smart, makes good decisions but is a little bit inconsistent at the moment as he drifts in-and-out of games. In a full-time environment he should thrive.
49. ESAVA RATUGOLEA
Tall forward/ruckman, 194cm, 95kg, Murray Bushrangers
Buckenara says: The big smoky in the draft, a club may take a punt on him early. He’s a Fijian with great power and athleticism and has only been playing footy for a little while but his improvement this year was dramatic. He only played a couple of games in 2015 but this year did all the pre-season and early in the year kicked a bag of four and a bag of eight at TAC Cup level. There is a lot to like about him, he’s very athletic and there’ll be some interest in him it just remains to be seen whether it’s early, late or as a rookie.
48. BEN CAVARRA
Small forward/midfielder, 175cm, 72kg, Frankston VFL
Buckenara says: A former Eastern Ranges player, Cavarra has been at Frankston for a couple of years and I thought he was a bit unlucky in his draft year not to get an opportunity, at least as a rookie. He’s a clever little player who’s lightly framed and can fill a small forward role but is probably more suited to being a forward/midfielder where he can go into the middle and win his own footy. He’s also good on the outside and kicks the ball with some penetration. There’s a lot to like about Ben but he can be a little bit left-sided. Won Frankston’s best-and-fairest last year.
47. DARCY CAMERON
Ruckman, 204cm, 101kg, Claremont
Buckenara says: Cameron has been the No.1 ruckman for Claremont in the WAFL for a couple of years after coming through the under-18s system. He’s a big boy, has good skills and his ruck work has really improved. I think for a club looking for a back-up ruckman, which a lot are, he’d be a good fit.
46. ROWAN MARSHALL
Ruckman, 201cm, 97kg, North Ballarat VFL
Buckenara says: Marshall will turn 21 the day before the draft and would arrive as a ready-made back-up ruckman because he has the body already. He’s flexible in that he can play up forward and at centre half-back as well because he’s quite athletic for his size. He had a breakout year this year in the VFL and can take a mark and kick a goal because he has nice kicking skills for a big man but needs to improve his agility. I think he deserves an opportunity.
45. HARRY MORRISON
Defender, 182cm, 73kg, Murray Bushrangers/Benalla
Buckenara says: A bit of a smoky, Morrison can play as an inside midfielder who has some football talent but he’s a bit slow across the ground. He’ll either get drafted or rookie-listed. Has recovered from an ACL injury last year and back issues this year.
44. JOSH BATTLE
Tall forward, 192cm, 90kg, Dandenong Stingrays/Doveton/Haileybury
Buckenara says: Battle has a strong body already for a tall forward, he wins the footy against his own age group but the question will be whether he’s got the athletic tricks for the next level. His marking overhead and on the lead plus his work ethic are his biggest strengths and he certainly has performed well at TAC Cup level and been a good player for Dandenong. A club will have a look at him because of his size but he needs to continue to work on his fitness. He also needs to work on his agility below his knees because at times he looks like he doesn’t bend down and grab the footy and can look a bit slow as he has a wide turning arc.
43. SAM McLARTY
Defender, 193cm, 93kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Beverly Hills JFC/ Yarra Valley GS
Buckenara says: McLarty had a bit of an interrupted season this year and missed a fair bit of footy. He can play as a tall defender or tall forward and already has a big body but I think the jury is out. Because there aren’t too many talls in this draft a club might have a look at him. His marking and agility are strengths.
42. JONTY SCHARENBERG
Midfielder, 186cm, 80kg, Glenelg/PHOS Camden
Buckenara says: The brother of Magpie Matt Scharenberg, Jonty is a nice size for an inside midfielder, is good mover and one-on-one player. There are some question marks on his pace and agility but comes from a good pedigree and has reasonable footy skills it’s just a matter of whether he’s going to have that improvement in him that will make him a good AFL player.
41. JAKE WATERMAN
Tall forward, 191cm, 82kg, Claremont/Aquinas College
Buckenara says: Nominated as a father-son by West Coast, Waterman is a tall forward who’s had a really good year. He’s got a pretty solid body, is athletic and has some genuine talent. I think a club will bid on him around this part of the draft and see if West Coast is keen.
40. DYLAN CLARKE
Midfielder, 187cm, 85kg, Eastern Ranges/Knox/Melbourne GS
Buckenara says: For his size Clarke is very competitive and actually plays a bit taller than his height suggests and really throws his body around. He’s a smart kid and has the athleticism and traits clubs like as an inside midfielder who wins his own footy and plays with desperation. It wouldn’t surprise me if he ends up being a tagging-type player because he’s so disciplined. He needs to, however, address his kicking. Brother of Kangaroo Ryan Clarke.
39. JOE ATLEY
Midfielder, 186cm, 84kg, Bendigo Pioneers/Rochester
Buckenara says: Brother of North Melbourne’s Shaun Atley, Joe is a midfielder who’s already a nice size at 186cm and 84kg. He’s a really hard-at-it contested ball winner, he’s unselfish and a real team player but sometimes he can make zany decisions on the field because he rushes a bit, which comes from the fact he’s so fanatical. I’d like to see him improve his kicking — his kick is a bit slow, it doesn’t get to its target quickly, which leaves it open to being cut off by the opposition and also lacks penetration. Aside from that he’s a nice player.
38. HARRISON MACREADIE
Defender, 196cm, 89kg, Henty/GWS Academy
Buckenara says: A tall key defender, Macreadie is available to the Giants as an academy selection. He’s a good size, reads the play well and is versatile so he has some talent and I think he’ll develop well in a full-time environment. The query on him is his pace and at times lacks a bit of urgency out on the field but often that can be an issue with the NSW and Queensland academy players because they’re usually much better than the guys they’re playing against. Given there aren’t many key position types in this draft crop, he’ll be of interest to GWS and potentially other clubs as well.
37. PATRICK KERR
Tall forward, 194cm, 93kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Glen Iris/St Kevin’s
Buckenara says: Kerr has a strong body and plays as a tall forward who could also be groomed as a defender. He’s a nice player, I don’t think he’ll end up being a star but I think he’s got the ability to develop into a consistent AFL player. Is a good mark and accurate shot for goal.
36. CAM POLSON
Small forward, 177cm, 76kg, Sandringham Dragons/Haileybury Grammar
Buckenara says: Polson is a pretty clever player who has some traits that will be of interest to clubs but needs to be a bit more consistent in his efforts. Is another one of those lightly-built small forwards.
35. WILLEM DREW
Midfielder, 188cm, 78kg, North Ballarat Rebels/Koroit
Buckenara says: A nice, smooth-mover and a player who makes good decisions, Drew uses the ball well. He has no trouble finding the footy, has good endurance and is very competitive. I think he’ll definitely be drafted.
34. JOSH DAICOS
Small midfielder/forward, 178cm, 69kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Bulleen Templestowe/Camberwell Grammar
Buckenara says: A father-son for Collingwood, I’d say Daicos will cost them more in terms of draft points than Callum Brown. He possesses a lot of traits similar to his father, Peter. He’s a bit inconsistent at the moment and his form dropped off towards the end of the year but he showed early he does have some tricks and traits clubs are looking for. He can kick a goal, is smart, has clean hands and has good skills. He’s a small forward who’ll take time to develop and I think the Pies will be patient and take their time with him. He will need to get into the gym and build his strength.
33. MYLES POHOLKE
Midfielder, 184cm, 84kg, Dandenong Stingrays/Sorrento
Buckenara says: Another mid-sized strong bodied midfielder, I think he’ll be in the mix but it wouldn’t surprise me if he went at pick No.30 or pick No.60. Can play both inside and outside.
32. CEDRIC COX
Half-back, 184cm, 70kg, North Ballarat Rebels, Camperdown/Halls Creek
Buckenara says: Cox played senior footy down at Camperdown and came down to the Rebels program during the year and also played a couple of games with the North Ballarat Roosters in the VFL. He’s a quiet young man but a very determined young guy who is a beautiful kick on both sides of his body. He does have a lot to learn still in terms of footy but he can stop on a dime, he can do things not many others can and I think he’ll excite and be a player who will definitely be drafted.
31. WILL HAYWARD
Forward, 186cm, 76kg, North Adelaide/Walkerville
Buckenara says: A South Australian, Hayward has uncanny skills but isn’t the greatest kick. He’s a player who has got that athleticism clubs like — he’s a 2.94 second 20m sprinter and his vertical leap is very good, ranking third at the combine. His kicking and his physical strength isn’t where it needs to be but he does have some traits. I’d like to see him concentrate on his ball use a bit more because he can do some clever things.
30. LUKE RYAN
Midfielder, 185cm, 87kg, Coburg VFL
Buckenara says: The 20-year-old impressed with Coburg in the VFL this year as a big-bodied rebound defender/midfielder who uses the ball well. Ryan has good athleticism, is aware of what’s going on around him and has good instincts — he knows what to do when he’s out on the footy field.
29. TODD MARSHALL
Tall forward, 198cm, 87kg, Murray Bushrangers/Deniliquin
Buckenara says: Marshall is one of these kids who is a natural talent at most sports and played cricket in England last year before returning to focus on his footy. He’s a potential key forward but is still pretty raw in understanding his talent and the work ethic required to make it in the AFL but I think there’s enough there, because there is such a lack of good key tall talent this year, that someone will take him reasonably early. He’s agile, can take a big mark and his goal sense is pretty good.
28. SAM POWELL-PEPPER
Midfielder, 186cm, 83kg, East Perth/Wesley College
Buckenara says: Powell-Pepper is a very powerful player with a great burst of speed and already has a strongly built body at 83kg. He’s a midfielder who can also play across half forward. He’ll need to work a bit more on his endurance and his kick because he doesn’t steady enough when he’s got the ball. In terms of having a big body and powerful turn of speed off the mark, he’s got some traits. I’m sure there will be a lot of interest in him.
27. JACOB ALLISON
Midfielder, 194cm, 79kg, Aspley/Brisbane Lions Academy
Buckenara says: A member of Brisbane’s academy, at 194cm Allison is a tall midfielder with the height of a potential key position player — a forward — who is very lightly built so will need a lot of work in the gym to build up his body. There’s a lot of upside in him and I think there is some real potential there and a club might place a bid on him to keep the Lions honest.
26. ALEX WITHERDEN
Half-back, 184cm, 78kg, Geelong Falcons/St Josephs
Buckenara says: A mid-sized player, Witherden is a rebound defender who makes good decisions and is composed both when he’s around the footy and when he’s got it. He just doesn’t panic under pressure and as a rebound defender Witherden has all the traits you look for — composure, good decision-maker, good kicking skills, clean hands and pace. Broke his leg this year and missed a lot of footy and whether there are any concerns over that remains to be seen.
BUCKY’S SMOKYS
Lloyd Meek
Tall forward/ruckman, 201cm, 102kg, North Ballarat/North Ballarat Rebels
Buckenara says: A very big lad who runs well and with a lack of talls in this draft, could definitely be drafted or rookie-listed.
Hisham Kerbatieh
Small forward, 177cm 81kg, Northern Blues
Buckenara says: Played VFL all year after missing out on being drafted in 2015 and kicked goals. Is smart and competitive but needs to improve his endurance.
Callan Wellings
Defender, 180cm, 72kg, North Ballarat Rebels/Trentham
Buckenara says: Missed early games 2016 but finished the year really well. Is disciplined, professional and has a great work ethic.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gary-buckenaras-top-50-players-for-the-afl-draft-2016-part-one-5026/news-story/9d4d166d3f5767d1b146ffe9f29eed6a
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So only two players & the Short upgrade?
3 + short
2 in the main + Short and leave room for a PSD pick if we want it?
4 + Short now....
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Gary Buckenara’s top 50 players for the AFL draft 2016: Part two, 25-1
GARY BUCKENARA,
Herald Sun
November 23, 2016
IN A very deep — and very even — draft, some clubs will rate certain players a lot higher than others.
That makes the order hard to predict, but recruiter Gary Buckenara has listed his top 50 prospects. Who will your club choose?
See who he ranked 26-50 here — and scroll down to find out his top 25 draft talents including who he would take with the coveted No.1 selection.
GARY BUCKNARA’S DRAFT TOP 50 PART TWO: 25-1
25. ALEX VILLIS
Defender, 182cm, 70kg, Norwood/South Australia
Buckenara says: Villis’s strengths are that he’s a good decision-maker, can win his own footy and is a beautiful kick. He’ll need to put on a bit of size to use his in-and-under capabilities at AFL level but he’s a very smart player who is aware of what’s around him on the footy field.
24. ZAC FISHER
Small forward/midfielder, 175cm, 61kg, Perth/Guilford Grammar
Buckenara says: From Perth, Fisher is another small forward who has great footy awareness and is clever like most small forwards are. He has a really light body and the club that picks him up will need to be patient and put the development into him that he needs. He has pace, is athletic and smart, but just needs the body to be able to compete at AFL level. He’s got some tricks.
23. SHAI BOLTON
Half forward, 177cm, 67kg, South Fremantle/Forrestdale
Buckenara says: Bolton definitely has the traits AFL clubs are looking for in a small forward. He’s dangerous around goals, is quick and has x-factor. He can take a big mark but is only a light frame so will need to spend some time in the gym and also needs to get a bit fitter. He’s a really nice player.
22. KYM LeBOIS
Small forward, 175cm, 66kg, North Adelaide/Koonibba
Buckenara says: LeBois is a left-footer with tremendous goal sense, so he’ll be that small forward that quite a few clubs are on the lookout for. He has a combination of speed and endurance, has good vision but because he’s only a light frame he tends to get pushed off the ball a little bit, so he’ll need to work on his body strength.
21. OLIVER FLORENT
Midfielder/half forward, 183cm, 74kg, Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris/Mentone GS
Buckenara says: Another midfielder/forward, Florent has been in a good system at the Dragons. He has footy smarts, has great agility but probably just needs to be a little bit harder at the contest on some occasions. I still think there’s enough there to like about him to be a relatively early selection.
20. JORDAN RIDLEY
Defender, 192cm, 79kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Knox
Buckenara says: Ridley will be of interest to clubs because he’s a flexible prospect. At 192cm he can play in a number of positions whether it be down back, up forward or in the midfield, but probably plays his best footy as a defender. He’s a hard worker.
19. DANIEL VENABLES
Midfielder/half forward, 186cm, 81kg, Western Jets/PEGS/Keilor
Buckenara says: A mid-sized midfielder from the Western Jets, Venables had a lot of school commitments this year but was All-Australian as a midfielder in the carnival. He competes really well and is very good in congested situations.
18. JY SIMPKIN
Half forward/midfielder, 181cm, 71kg, Murray Bushrangers/Mooroopna
Buckenara says: Simpkin is a playmaker. He’s a midfielder who makes smart decisions and is classy and clever. He’s not an overly high possession-winner but when he does get it he’s creative. He’s one of those guys who, when he gets possession of the ball, you know something good is going to happen for the team. He’ll be of interest to a lot of clubs.
17. JOSH ROTHAM
Defender, 192cm, 79kg, West Perth/Whitfords
Buckenara says: A tall defender from WA, Rotham will turn 19 early next year and will come into the system as a potential third tall defender. He also has the athleticism to be a tall midfielder or tall winger because he does run quite well.
16. JARROD BERRY
Midfielder/half-back, 191cm, 80kg, North Ballarat Rebels/Horsham Saints
Buckenara says: At 191cm Berry is a very good ball winner and a smart player who makes good decisions. He does have his own kicking style but it is quite effective — he doesn’t miss too many targets and it’s penetrating. Berry has had some injury concerns, which limited his year a little bit but is a very hard-at-it player who can also be damaging on the outside. There is a lot to like about him.
15. GRIFFIN LOGUE
Tall defender, 193cm, 92kg, Swan Districts/Guildford Grammar
Buckenara says: A WA boy, Logue is a really nice size as a bid-bodied potential key-position player. He tested really well at the draft combine — he impressed a lot with what he did so I think he came up the pecking order a bit. Logue has shown he can hold his own in one-on-ones and is a long-kicking left-footer. He’ll be in the mix to be a top-20 pick for sure.
14. ISAAC CUMMING
Defender, 183cm, 72kg, Broken Hill/GWS Academy
Buckenara says: Cumming can play on a wing, across half-back and even half-forward — he’s a bit on an all-rounder type of player. He plays outside and is a really smooth mover with a good kick. He is available to GWS as part of its academy despite playing footy with North Adelaide in the under-18s.
13. KOBE MUTCH
Midfielder, 184cm, 79kg, Gol Gol/Bendigo Pioneers/GWS Academy
Buckenara says: A mid-sized midfielder, Much wins his own ball. He has a good work rate but probably needs to work a bit more on his repeat efforts despite the fact he knows how to find the footy and win it. He’s also got good skills, so he’s one of those elite kicking type players who are very important. He’ll be high on club radars.
12. HARRY PERRYMAN
Half-back/forward, 184cm, 75kg, Collingullie/GWS Academy
Buckenara says: Perryman reads the play really well and can play back and forward. He’s good overhead, skilful and is a very competitive type. He’s a member of GWS’s Academy and I think clubs will be very keen to make the Giants pay a decent price for him.
11. JORDAN GALLUCI
Midfielder, 183cm, 75kg, Eastern Ranges/Yarra Valley GS/Lilydale
Buckenara says: Another midfielder, Galluci is a polished player who has good pace and is very athletic. He probably does need to tidy up his disposal a little bit but he has all the traits of becoming a very good midfielder because of his athleticism and speed. Recruiters like his dash.
10. TIM TARANTO
Midfielder, 186cm, 82kg, Sandringham Dragons/Parkdale/St Kevin’s
Buckenara says: Taranto has good skills, makes good decisions and should be one of this year’s top prospects. The only query on him might be his pace, but he’s definitely a very nice player and will go in the first round.
9. JACK SCRIMSHAW
Defender/midfielder, 194cm, 80kg, Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris/Haileybury
Buckenara says: Another tall defender who can go into the midfield, Scrimshaw makes good decisions with the ball and I believe he’ll go in the top 10. He has had a few little injury issues but I don’t think that’s any concern moving forward. He’ll be highly sought-after because he can also go forward, has a really good pair of hands and can do the uncanny things every now and then. He’s a real talent and has a bit of x-factor.
8. TIM ENGLISH
Ruckman, 203cm, 86kg, South Fremantle/Brookton-Pingelly
Buckenara says: English is the best young ruckman in the draft and because ruckmen are few and far between in this year’s group, a club needing a developing ruckman will pounce. He does still have big of weight to put on, so he’s a bit of a project, but he certainly has some real ability in terms of his athleticism and footy nous around the ground. I doubt he will get past Fremantle’s first pick at No.7. Taking him to be the heir apparent to Aaron Sandilands would be a very smart move.
7. WILL BRODIE
Midfielder, 189cm, 82kg, Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton
Buckenara says: A big-bodied inside midfielder, Brodie is really clean with his ball-handling and will definitely attract early interest in the draft. I think there’s a lot of upside to him but he has already shown he can perform under pressure in the finals of the TAC Cup, which really saw him rise up the draft order.
6. JACK BOWES
Midfielder, 187cm, 78kg, Cairns/Gold Coast Academy
Buckenara says: Bowes is a member of Gold Coast’s Academy and I won’t be surprised if Brisbane keep the Suns honest by placing a bid on him early, which will force them to pay a high price to secure him. He’s a good decision-maker, beautiful kick and his awareness around the ground is second to none — he knows what’s going on and because of that has very good vision. Can be a bit one-paced so will need to try and improve his speed off the mark. Is in the Sam Mitchell and Matt Priddis mould but a taller version.
5. WILL SETTERFIELD
Midfielder, 190cm, 80kg, Sandringham Dragons/Albury/GWS Academy
Buckenara says: A member of the GWS Academy, I have no doubt a bid will come in early for Setterfield. He’s a good size for a midfield type player and has already shown he’s going to be a really good player. He can play in a number of positions, whether it’s as a big-bodied midfielder, high half-forward or rebound defender, and will only get better in a full-time environment.
4. SAM PETREVSKI-SETON
Midfielder/half forward, 181cm, 76kg, Claremont/Halls Creek
Buckenara says: Petrevski-Seton has been an AFL player-in-waiting for quite some time. He’s played very well at under-16s and under-18s and played league footy for Claremont in Western Australia. He’ll come into the AFL system ready to go and be pushing very quickly for a senior game. He offers a lot of upside, has an interesting background in terms of where he’s come from and his journey to being draft hopeful. He’s got the dedication it takes to make it in the AFL. A club won’t go wrong by picking him.
3. BEN AINSWORTH
Midfielder, 179cm, 74kg, Gippsland Power/Morwell
Buckenara says: A small forward/midfielder, Ainsworth is a clever player who makes good decisions with the ball. I like the way he goes about his work — he has genuine upside and I think there would be a lot of clubs looking for a player exactly like him. He’s classy and a professional in all he does. Will be a very good pick-up.
2. ANDREW McGRATH
Defender, 179cm, 75kg, Sandringham Dragons/East Brighton/Brighton
Buckenara says: A ready-made running defender who can also play in the midfield, McGrath’s improvement could be quite dramatic once he gets into the AFL system. He makes very good decisions with the footy, has good skills and is just one of those players who is very reliable. When you’re looking for rebound defenders you’re looking for guys who can break the lines and McGrath is exactly that type of player. I think he’ll adjust to the tempo of AFL quickly.
1. HUGH McCLUGGAGE
Midfielder, 185cm, 75kg, North Ballarat Rebels/South Warrnambool
Buckenara says: McCluggage is a beautiful size, good mover and a good decision-maker. He wins his own footy but he’s also very good on the outside because he’s well balanced and doesn’t waste too many possessions — that’s the most impressive part about his game, he’s very clean. McCluggage is a level-headed young man who will be around AFL circles for a very long time. Essendon will be tossing up who to take, but I just couldn’t go past him. Will be a star.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gary-buckenaras-top-50-players-for-the-afl-draft-2016-part-two-251/news-story/96281ed6c2eb0e63b302990e626098a8
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VFL players your club should chase ...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/localfooty/best-vfl-players-in-line-to-be-drafted-to-the-afl/news-story/57290b5a4d1bff2f61ebab8a47c2e19c
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Apparently we're looking at Stewart who strikes me as another Batchelor or Broad...
Would rather take Darcy Cameron or Shane Nelson than any of these...maybe if we had more picks in the rookie draft to play with I'd look at Fox, Goodwin, McInerney & Keilty
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Would look at Cameron as a rookie but pass on Nelson.
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Nelson at the least is better than Lambert & Marcon.
I'd even take Cameron with our last live national draft pick....has the abilty & work ethic to be the genuine ruck/forward we all wanted Vickery to be...
....and in other news GWS have just been charged with "conduct unbecoming" but won't be penalised in this year's draft at least...
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I hear you but i would take Lambert over Nelson all day every day.
Cameron is mainly a forward and only assists in the ruck as required. He is worth a rookie spot however.....
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Inside Football's Brett Anderson's final top 25:
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/11/17/top-50-prospects-for-2016-afl-draft-1-25/
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Might have still given a sh(7 if we still had pick 6. :sleep
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Draft has started.
1. Essendon Andrew McGrath
2. GWS Tim Taranto
3. Brisbane Hugh McCluggage
4. Gold Coast Ben Ainsworth
5. GWS Will Setterfield
And our former pick 6 is ...
6. Carlton Sam Petrevski-Seton
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7. Gold Coast Jack Scrimshaw
8. Freo Griffin Logue
That's the first difference to Callum Twomey's phanton draft.
9. Gold Coast Will Brodie
The phanton draft had Freo and Gold Coast the other way around.
10. Gold Coast Jack Bowes
That's the top 10. All ten were in Twomey's phanton top 10.
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Waiting, waiting, waiting ....
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyF10L_UkAARyKK.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
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The first surprise from the Swans ...
11. Sydney Oliver Florent
12. North Melb Jy Simpkin
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Waiting, waiting, waiting ....
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyF10L_UkAARyKK.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
Great to see Blair there to weave his magic :rollin
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Another surprise from the Eagles.
13. West Coast Daniel Venables
Adelaide are bidding on Giants academy player Harry Perryman. GWS are matching the bid.
14. GWS Harry Perryman
15. Adelaide Jordan Gallucci
Our first pick is down to 29.
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16. Port Todd Marshall
17. Brisbane Jarrod Berry
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18. Port Sam Powell-Pepper
One that was linked to us.
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Powell-Pepper gone....
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English now gone
Doggies got a steal at 19
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19. Bulldogs Tim English
Sydney have launched a bid for a GWS player (Issac Cumming). GWS have matched the bid.
20. GWS Issac Cumming
21. Sydney Will Hayward
That's the end of round 1.
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4 rubbish picks for pick 20.
It's like trading Morris, Hunt, Elton and Conca for a gun.
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Schubeci: What sort of player do Essendon need here, Brett?
Anderson: A good one!
Champagne SEN comedy.
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22. Essendon Jordan Ridley
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23. Brisbane Alex Witherden
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Here it comes...
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Brisbane have back to back to picks 23 & 24
And they ask for more time
Please
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24. Brisbane Cedric Cox
Another one linked to us gone.
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25. St Kilda Ben Long
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26. Geelong Brandan Parfitt
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27. Carlton Zac Fisher
Two to go.
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28. Bulldogs Patrick Lipinski
We're next ....
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We've picked Bolton
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Well stuff me -Emma Quayle was wrong for one ...thank Geez....
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29. Richmond Shai Bolton
30. Collingwood Sam McLarty
31. Essendon Joshua Begley
32. Port Joe Atley
33. Port Willem Drew
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North are bidding for a Lions academy player (Declan Watson). Brisbane have passed.
34. North Declan Watson
North have put in another bid for Gavin Brown's son. Collingwood have matched it.
35. Collingwood Callum Brown
North hogging the attention ::). Another bid. Gold Coast have passed.
36. North Josh Williams
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Damn - Begley gone to Essendon.....thought he might slide to 56...
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37. West Coast Joshua Rotham
38. Freo Sean Darcy
39. St Kilda Josh Battle
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40. Geelong Tom Stewart
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41. Freo Brennan Cox
That's the end of round 2.
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Poholke still on the board... :pray
Stewart gone....thank you Geelong - :clapping
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Our next pick has dropped to pick 53.
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42. Essendon Kobe Mutch
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43. Geelong Esava Ratugolea
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44. Adelaide Myles Poholke
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45. Sydney Jack Maibaum
46. Melbourne Mitchell Hannan
Two now from Footscray's VFL side.
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Damn, Geelong just undid their good work saving us from Stewart and took one of our Cat B rookie nominations...
...and now Poholke goes to Adelaide.....
>:( >:(
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Carlton bidding on a Giants academy player. GWS pass.
47. Carlton Harrison Macreadie
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48. Sydney Darcy Cameron
49. Bulldogs Lewis Young
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50. Collingwood Kayle Kirby
They got our boy :-\
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51. Adelaide Elliot Himmelberg
Well Dio will be happy we missed out on him ;D
Two to go to our next pick.
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Pies did it just to spite us....
..but on the brightside - the Hindenburg has also gone..... :clapping
EDIT: indeed OE, indeed... :clapping
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52. West Coast Willie Rioli
We're next!
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53. Richmond Jack Graham
That's the end of round 3.
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Ah Willie goes one pick before.....
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54. GWS Lachlan Tiziani
St Kilda bidding on a Lions academy player. Brisbane have matched the bid.
55. Brisbane Jacob Allison
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56. St Kilda Edward Phillips
57. Collingwood Josh Daicos
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58. GWS Matthew de Bore (ex-Freo)
59. Carlton Cameron Polson
Our next pick is at 75 by the way.
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60. Geelong Quinton Narkle
61. Collingwood Pass
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Passed picks don't count as a pick. So GWS now have 61.
61. GWS pass
Pick 61 moves to the Blues who are next.
61. Carlton Tom Williamson
62. Adelaide Matthew Signorello
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Geez if Kerr somehow lasts to our next pick I'm doing a nudey run up the street.
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will you post it on youtube?
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63. Essendon Dylan Clarke
Our next pick has moved up to 73.
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64. Melbourne Dion Johnstone
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65. Carlton Patrick Kerr
No nudie run up the street from TigerLand :snidegrin
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66. Freo Luke Ryan
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Geelong bidding on a Suns' academy player. Gold Coast have matched the bid.
67. Gold Coast Brad Scheer
68. Geelong Timm House
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69. Gold Coast pass
69. Geelong Ryan Abbott ... a local boy no one knows about according to SEN.
70. Bulldogs Fergus Greene
End of round 4
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71. Brisbane Corey Lyons
72. Freo pass
We're next.
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Yep Ryan Abbott is from the Grovedale Tigers
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72. Richmond Ryan Garthwaite
73. North Nick Larky
74. Hawthorn Harry Morrison
75. Adelaide Ben Davis
76. Hawthorn Mitchell Lewis
End of round 5
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77. West Coast Jake Waterman (F/S)
Everyone else remaining has passed.
That's all folks!!!
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Did we get someone to protect Cotch?
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When is the rookie draft being held?
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Did we get someone to protect Cotch?
Caddy, Prestia, Graham and Vlastuin hopefully
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Lmfao@people getting excited over tadpoles
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When is the rookie draft being held?
PSD & rookie are on Monday starting at 4pm
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Can't wait to see who we rookie with that one pick....
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Damn - just noticed Swanettes took Darcy Cameron....missed that....
Off the top my head, Jonty Scharenberg looks like he was the most highly rated player that didn't get picked up.....be a handy rookie pick....
Xavier Richards still hasn't found a new home either has he? Was training with Essendon the other week...
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Damn - just noticed Swanettes took Darcy Cameron....missed that....
Off the top my head, Jonty Scharenberg looks like he was the most highly rated player that didn't get picked up.....be a handy rookie pick....
Xavier Richards still hasn't found a new home either has he? Was training with Essendon the other week...
I found it no surprise Scharenberg didn't get taken, massively over rated player.
His disposal is below average by foot and average by hand at best.
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I found it strange Atley went at 32 while Scharenberg was completely overlooked....they're almost identical players...
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When is the rookie draft being held?
PSD & rookie are on Monday starting at 4pm
thanks
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50. Collingwood Kayle Kirby
They got our boy :-\
:banghead, if only there was a cry emoticon!
Wish we had got him, will watch with interest
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AFL draft verdict: How did your club fare?
AFL.com.au
27 November 2016
RICHMOND
Selections before academy and father/son bidding: 27, 56, 78
Selections after bidding: 29, 53, 72
Who they picked: Shai Bolton, Jack Graham, Ryan Garthwaite
Pre-draft priority: A big-bodied midfielder who can play early on.
Callum Twomey's verdict: Bolton's flair and excitement was clearly too hard to pass up for the Tigers, who will see him as offering something different to their forward mix. After drafting Daniel Rioli with their first pick last year, the Tigers went for speed and dash again in Bolton. He also complements inside pair Dion Prestia and Josh Caddy who joined the club in last month's trade period. Graham will likely sidle up alongside those two next year as a ready-to-go midfielder who fell through to the latter part of the draft, while Garthwaite fills the need of a tall defender. The Tigers were looking at some key backmen with their earlier choice but overlooked them to bring in Bolton, so Garthwaite is a fair selection late.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-26/afl-draft-verdict-how-did-your-club-fare
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See who your club picked and what to expect in our AFL Draft club-by-club analysis
Sam Landsberger,
Herald Sun
November 26, 2016
RICHMOND
The Tigers grabbed inside terriers Dion Prestia and Josh Caddy in trade period and added another contested king in Jack Graham. He captained South Australia and won the Larke Medal as the best player on the national stage. West Australian Shai Bolton slipped to their first pick and he has exhilarating pace. Zips through traffic and will provide spark next to Jack Riewoldt, but will he want to return home? Some were spooked. Ryan Garthwaite finished top 10 at the combine in clean hands and kicking tests but does his best work down back. After Troy Chaplin’s retirement and with a question mark on Jake Batchelor and David Astbury, it was important to boost that position. Two first-rounders next your courtesy of the Brett Deledio trade means the Tigers walk away from the off-season pleased.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/see-who-your-club-picked-and-what-to-expect-in-our-afl-draft-clubbyclub-analysis/news-story/3924ae9b536e61e502b3865540f7a36e
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Gary Buckenara’s club-by-club analysis of the 2016 AFL draft
GARY BUCKENARA,
Herald Sun
November 27, 2016
RICHMOND
When I wrote my Richmond list analysis column an area I identified as a need was a quick and clever small forward and they’ve got that in Shai Bolton to partner Daniel Rioli. Moving to Melbourne from Western Australia will be a challenge but hopefully he settles in and can produce the impressive footy he showed for South Fremantle. He’s dynamic and has x-factor but needs to get his body right and the Tigers will need to manage him carefully. I didn’t have Jack Graham in my top 50 but some rated him very highly given he won the Larke Medal as the best player in the under-18 championships — I think that pick will please the Tigers but he needs to improve areas of his game. Garthwaite adds depth down back and is very good one-on-one. He finished third in the best and fairest at the Murray Bushrangers and should improve even more learning off the likes of Alex Rance.
Bucky’s verdict: The Tigers are on the right track now in terms of investing and developing talent via the draft rather than bringing in recycled players, which they’ve done in the last five or so years in my opinion. Bolton has upside and hopefully for Tigers fans these players will develop. Time will tell. All three have the capability to play at AFL level next year and should get a taste at some stage but it depends how the Tigers are travelling.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gary-buckenaras-clubbyclub-analysis-of-the-2016-afl-draft/news-story/f786d695420adf24d830fec585390bb4