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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 05, 2017, 07:58:47 PM
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Sam McClure mentioned on Talking Footy just now that in the Age tomorrow it says the Geelong vs Richmond game later this year could be moved from Kardinia Park to the M.C.G. if both clubs continue to be around the top 4.
Dangerfield didn't like the idea of course. Are you afraid of us, Paddy? ;D
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Geelong Cats may lose home AFL clash against Richmond Tigers to MCG
Sam McClure
The Age
6 June 2017
The AFL may consider moving Geelong's round 21 clash with Richmond from Simonds Stadium to the MCG if the form of both teams continues over the next 10 weeks.
In a time when momentum is building for the Cats to be handed a home final at Kardinia Park, the club could be stripped of a home-and-away game if circumstances call for it.
The match, scheduled for August 12, is one of seven games fixtured at Simonds Stadium, the majority of which will be in the back half of the year due to the venue's recent redevelopment.
But, with Geelong third on the ladder and Richmond fourth, the game could potentially draw a crowd double the size of Simonds Stadium's capacity of 36,000.
Geelong, bemused by even the suggestion of a change to the fixture, remain adamant that moving the game from Simonds Stadium would be almost impossible.
"We doubt it could be done and we certainly wouldn't support it," Cats acting CEO Justin Reeves told Fairfax Media.
"It's certainly the first we've heard of it."
While the AFL wouldn't comment on Monday, it's understood a fixture change would be considered if there was a chance of locking out tens of thousands of supporters.
The last four games between the clubs at the MCG have drawn an average crowd of 45,000 and on the one of those occasions that both teams were in the top eight, the crowd was 55,625.
The AFL now finds itself in a difficult position with a decision either way likely to prompt a heavy backlash from Geelong for moving a home game or from Richmond for potentially locking out 30,000 people.
"Pulling the fixture together is a complex task and we all understand there will be anomalies from time to time. Obviously from a football perspective we are happy to play anybody anywhere but we do think that in the interests of maximising crowds our games against Geelong should always be played at a larger stadium," said Tigers CEO Brendon Gale.
"We are one of three clubs with 70,000 plus members and, unfortunately, some fans will miss out when we play later in the year and that is never ideal."
Total Richmond attendances eclipsed 900,000 last year making Richmond the second biggest crowd-pulling club.
In 2015, the Tigers played before more than 1.05 million people, making them number one in the AFL.
The MCG has no scheduled match on August 12, with the only event that weekend being the clash between Melbourne and St Kilda, which is the following day.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/geelong-cats-may-lose-home-afl-clash-against-richmond-tigers-to-mcg-20170605-gwl11o.html
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Nice little dig from BG, but sometimes some can't handle the truth.
Sorry pussies get a bigger stadium. :lol
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If I was the Cats I wouldn't want the game moved either.
Let's face it, why would a club that considers itself a flag chance want to play an extra game at the 'G right before the finals.
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If it does get moved I just hope those of us who have prurchased seats down at the cattery get goven decent seats at the MCG
Hope it does get moved :clapping
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Should have been scheduled at the G in the first place. Stuffen amateurs at AFL house
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If it does get moved I just hope those of us who have prurchased seats down at the cattery get goven decent seats at the MCG
Hope it does get moved :clapping
Essendon Collingwood Carlton never stuffing play there
anyway cost me 50 bucks for each seat I would like the money back as I get into the G for free, stuff Geelong
They will kick up a stink and betcha it doesnt get moved
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Won't get moved and it shouldn't.
The simple fact is that the game shouldn't have been scheduled there in the first place. But now it has, stiff poo.
Would love to go there and knock them off
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I'd love this game to be moved but how can the AFL justify it if they allow finals games to be played there that also see supporters unable to attend. It's got to be all or nothing imo.
What happens if they earn the right for a home final but are scheduled to play us?
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We have their first round pick this year and now might get their home game as well.
Now to beat them when we play them.
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Save money on ⛽️ petrol
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Will not be moved unless Geelong request it and I can't see that happening.....
Bookmark it!
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Wont get moved
Best thing we can do is go down there and beat them. Stick it right up them :gotigers
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Won't get moved but disgraceful scheduling to put a club with 70k members in an arena with 30k seats.
Go figure?
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I dont mind being scheduled there from time to time. But what pees me off is that Richmond and Melbourne are gernerally drawn to play there and carlton collingwood essendon and hawthorn never get drawn there. Fair is fair. All or none
Then when can discuss membership base and annual attendances over periods of time. You will find we trump most of those clubs. But i still think first part is more worthy of debate
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I dont mind being scheduled there from time to time. But what pees me off is that Richmond and Melbourne are gernerally drawn to play there and carlton collingwood essendon and hawthorn never get drawn there. Fair is fair. All or none
Then when can discuss membership base and annual attendances over periods of time. You will find we trump most of those clubs. But i still think first part is more worthy of debate
I agree. I think Geelong should be able to play all of their home games at KP regardless of attendance. It is their home ground after all and they are doing a good job of upgrading the stadium. I just think it's rubbish that we're the only one of the big Melbourne clubs that have to make the trip.
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I dont mind being scheduled there from time to time. But what pees me off is that Richmond and Melbourne are gernerally drawn to play there and carlton collingwood essendon and hawthorn never get drawn there. Fair is fair. All or none
Then when can discuss membership base and annual attendances over periods of time. You will find we trump most of those clubs. But i still think first part is more worthy of debate
I agree. I think Geelong should be able to play all of their home games at KP regardless of attendance. It is their home ground after all and they are doing a good job of upgrading the stadium. I just think it's rubbish that we're the only one of the big Melbourne clubs that have to make the trip.
I think they should if they upgraded the ground to take 70k.
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Shift of Cats-Tigers clash not on, says AFL
Ryan Davidson
afl.com.au
June 6, 2017
THE AFL has no plans to move Geelong's round 21 clash with Richmond at Simonds Stadium over crowd capacity fears.
With both sides now sitting in the top four, the clash looms as fixture that would draw a far bigger crowd than the 36,000-capacity venue would allow.
However, AFL football operations manager Simon Lethlean told SEN on Tuesday that the game would only be moved if Geelong wanted so.
"I don't think this would be a game that we would be moved given it's a Geelong home game. It's been fixed with certainty, so it's not on our radar to be moving it at this stage," Lethlean said.
"I think it's a suggestion that's not coming from the AFL or Geelong, and I don't think in my time we've moved a game.
"Geelong has a new venue, they have memberships they sell with seven (home) games, and we're supportive at this stage of supporting a club in their right to host home games once they've been fixtured.
"If Geelong came to us and said we want to move our home game to another venue that is available, we'd certainty consider it."
Geelong acting CEO Justin Reeves said on Monday the club had no plans to move the game against the Tigers away from Simonds Stadium.
"We doubt it could be done and we certainly wouldn't support it," Reeves told Fairfax Media.
"It's certainly the first we've heard of it."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-06/shift-of-catstigers-clash-not-on-says-afl
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Why doesn't someone just as the AFL why Collingwood, Carlton and Essendon don't play down there.
Does anyone know the last time one of them did?
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Why doesn't someone just as the AFL why Collingwood, Carlton and Essendon don't play down there.
Does anyone know the last time one of them did?
Well Cloke said when the Throwdogs played down there weeks ago it was his first time playing on the ground. It must be 15+ years since the Pies have been to Geelong.
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Will not be moved unless Geelong request it and I can't see that happening.....
Bookmark it!
Not exactly a huge revelation given that's exactly what the AFL said this morning. In fact, they stated it's a long standing principle given the home team sells it hospitality and reserved seating well in advance....,
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Never said it was a huge revelation. Just that may posters were saying it may happen. I pointed out that it won't. That's all.
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Geelong says suggestion Simonds Stadium inadequate for Richmond exposed as untrue
JAY CLARK,
Herald Sun
26 July 2017
GEELONG is adamant it can cater for Richmond’s supporter base in its Round 21 clash at Simonds Stadium with more than 3000 tickets still available.
The AFL has shut down calls to move the game to the MCG following claims the Cats’ revamped home base was too small to host the contest between the top-four aspirants.
Geelong officials said any suggestion the venue was inadequate, or that a significant number of fans will be locked out of the game, have been “completely exposed as untrue” based on the number of tickets still available.
A portion of the seats may have to be resold to Geelong fans if Tiger members do not exhaust their allocation.
That includes 450 Richmond away members’ tickets, more than 2000 general admission tickets, 500 reserved seats, plus any extra seats which are expected to become available through the Cats’ resold seat program.
Surprisingly, in total, more tickets have been sold for Geelong’s home game against Sydney Swans at Simonds Stadium on Friday week, than the clash against the Tigers the following round.
Geelong spokesman Kevin Diggerson said there were “literally thousands of tickets still available” for fans of both sides.
They are expected to remain on-sale through Ticketmaster right up until the day of the game.
“The notion that Simonds Stadium is not big enough to host Richmond on August 12 is a furphy,” Diggerson said.
“Any move to have Geelong’s home game against Richmond played at Richmond’s home ground because Simonds Stadium supposedly cannot hold all of the Richmond supporters has been completely exposed as untrue.
“Anyone who wants a ticket can get one. They are available.”
The past two games between the two teams at the MCG have attracted 45,000 fans, including Melbourne Cricket Club members.
The capacity for Simonds Stadium is 34,000 following a $193 million redevelopment spanning 14 years.
The next phase would help increase the capacity by another 4000.
The AFL has confirmed the Round 21 match had been “fixed with certainty”.
“I don’t think this would be a game that we would be moved given it’s a Geelong home game,” then AFL football operations boss Simon Lethlean said last month.
“It’s not on our radar to be moving it at this stage. I think it’s a suggestion that’s not coming from the AFL or Geelong, and I don’t think in my time we’ve moved a game.”
The Cats want to host finals at the boutique stadium and could host back-to-back matches against Greater Western Sydney in Round 23 and the first final at Simonds Stadium.
The club is keen to play all 11 home games at Simonds Stadium.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/geelong-says-suggestion-simonds-stadium-inadequate-for-richmond-exposed-as-untrue/news-story/9ff554b31a0d30566c585846eceaeae9
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Geelong says suggestion Simonds Stadium inadequate for Richmond exposed as untrue
JAY CLARK,
Herald Sun
26 July 2017
GEELONG is adamant it can cater for Richmond’s supporter base in its Round 21 clash at Simonds Stadium with more than 3000 tickets still available.
The AFL has shut down calls to move the game to the MCG following claims the Cats’ revamped home base was too small to host the contest between the top-four aspirants.
Geelong officials said any suggestion the venue was inadequate, or that a significant number of fans will be locked out of the game, have been “completely exposed as untrue” based on the number of tickets still available.
A portion of the seats may have to be resold to Geelong fans if Tiger members do not exhaust their allocation.
That includes 450 Richmond away members’ tickets, more than 2000 general admission tickets, 500 reserved seats, plus any extra seats which are expected to become available through the Cats’ resold seat program.
Surprisingly, in total, more tickets have been sold for Geelong’s home game against Sydney Swans at Simonds Stadium on Friday week, than the clash against the Tigers the following round.
Geelong spokesman Kevin Diggerson said there were “literally thousands of tickets still available” for fans of both sides.
They are expected to remain on-sale through Ticketmaster right up until the day of the game.
“The notion that Simonds Stadium is not big enough to host Richmond on August 12 is a furphy,” Diggerson said.
“Any move to have Geelong’s home game against Richmond played at Richmond’s home ground because Simonds Stadium supposedly cannot hold all of the Richmond supporters has been completely exposed as untrue.
“Anyone who wants a ticket can get one. They are available.”
The past two games between the two teams at the MCG have attracted 45,000 fans, including Melbourne Cricket Club members.
The capacity for Simonds Stadium is 34,000 following a $193 million redevelopment spanning 14 years.
The next phase would help increase the capacity by another 4000.
The AFL has confirmed the Round 21 match had been “fixed with certainty”.
“I don’t think this would be a game that we would be moved given it’s a Geelong home game,” then AFL football operations boss Simon Lethlean said last month.
“It’s not on our radar to be moving it at this stage. I think it’s a suggestion that’s not coming from the AFL or Geelong, and I don’t think in my time we’ve moved a game.”
The Cats want to host finals at the boutique stadium and could host back-to-back matches against Greater Western Sydney in Round 23 and the first final at Simonds Stadium.
The club is keen to play all 11 home games at Simonds Stadium.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/geelong-says-suggestion-simonds-stadium-inadequate-for-richmond-exposed-as-untrue/news-story/9ff554b31a0d30566c585846eceaeae9
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its blackballed no-one wants to go to their white elephant
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Geelong officials said any suggestion the venue was inadequate, or that a significant number of fans will be locked out of the game, have been “completely exposed as untrue” based on the number of tickets still available.
A portion of the seats may have to be resold to Geelong fans if Tiger members do not exhaust their allocation.
That includes 450 Richmond away members’ tickets, more than 2000 general admission tickets, 500 reserved seats, plus any extra seats which are expected to become available through the Cats’ resold seat program.
Surprisingly, in total, more tickets have been sold for Geelong’s home game against Sydney Swans at Simonds Stadium on Friday week, than the clash against the Tigers the following round.
Geelong spokesman Kevin Diggerson said there were “literally thousands of tickets still available” for fans of both sides.
They are expected to remain on-sale through Ticketmaster right up until the day of the game.
"Literally thousands" :huh I am not sure when 2000 has ever been "literally thousand"
Facts are the ground's capacity is 34k
Richmond has 70k members
Geelong has IIRC just under 50k
So to suggest that venue can cater for ALL members of both clubs is well a FURPHY
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I got Tickets months ago and there was sweet fa left then - So I don't know what all this BS is about.
Anyway Got them and will be front and center to hopefully see us fix up these Hilbillies
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OK Just had a look a handful of single seats at best - What a load of Balony
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Eff em. I hate them even more now.
Not that id be bothered visiting 'The Litter Tray'.
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I don't have an issue with the game being in Geelong, I have no intentions of ever going there anyway. It's their home ground and imo they should be able to play all of their home games there. My beef is that we're always the ones drawn to play there while others are exempt.
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same dwaino.
Since 2007 we have played there 7 times, in the same timeframe collingwood, essendon, carlton have played there 0 times.
and then having these country bumbpkins come out and say we can cater to them is a load of skata
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The Richmond fan base would fill a 34,000 seat stadium by itself at any time. Just have to advertise that there are 34,000 seats available and see them go.
People just couldn't be bothered travelling down to sleepy hollow as it is too hard to get tickets.
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stuff them and their toxoplasmosis ridden cattery I say
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Tigers fans to be shut out, priced out of key Geelong clash
PETER ROLFE,
sports affairs reporter,
Herald Sun
27 July 2017
RICHMOND fans hoping to cheer on their team in the race to the finals are set to be ripped off or locked out of a key clash against Geelong.
All but solo seats to the Tigers’ round 21 match against the Cats at Simonds Stadium were sold out to the general public today with one ticket selling for $51.70 on Ticketmaster.
With seemingly no seats next to each other for Tigers fans dreaming of September glory, resale sites have alredy begun jacking up prices, leaving supporters to decide how much they’re willing to stuff out to see their team play.
TicketMaster’s controversial resale site was today selling tickets for up to $228 for the home and away blockbuster.
Secondary ticket seller Viagogo was this afternoon selling seats to the match for between $63 and $199 plus booking and handling fees.
AFL Fans Association president Gerry Eeman said Federal and State Governments needed to act in the interest of ordinary supporters.
“Something really, desperately, needs to be done about resale sites facilitating legalised scalping,’’ he said.
“You should only be able to resell your ticket at its face value, this problem rears its head time and again and it’s becoming ridiculous.’’
Simonds Stadium has a capacity of 34,000 but Geelong chief executive Brian Cook this week revealed 3000 seats would be set aside for Richmond supporters at the Cats home game.
Some Richmond members were able to buy a limited number of tickets together by upgrading to reserves seats today but no general admission were available.
Ticketmaster has been contacted for comment and asked if any further seats will become available closer to the August 12 fixture.
Mr Eeman feared ticket prices to more matches would continue to spiral out of reach.
“If something is not done it’s not going to go away, we’re just going to see it get worse,’’ he said.
“It’s driving people nuts.’’
He said Essendon and Collingwood’s Anzac Day blockbuster and big matches at Etihad Stadium and Simonds Stadium were a “real problem’’ for fans being priced out of entry due to secondary ticket sellers.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/tigers-fans-to-be-shut-out-priced-out-of-key-geelong-clash/news-story/fb466d7aee2da952ec154232878e491e
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Geelong Cats: ‘Real deal’ Richmond ready for Simonds Stadium showdown
ALEX OATES
Geelong Advertiser
7 August 2017
GEELONG defender Lachie Henderson is adamant Richmond is the real deal as the teams prepare to lock horns in a traditional Saturday blockbuster.
Henderson, who was one of few Cats to shine in Friday night’s 46-point loss to Sydney, said the Tigers deserved to be regarded as a premiership contender.
“They’re are (a very difficult assignment),” Henderson said.
“They’re playing some great footy this year and it’s going to be a very difficult game on Saturday. I think they’ve proven this year that they’ve played some good footy.
“They’re definitely the real deal. They’ve knocked over some good teams and they’re starting to play some really good, consistent footy.
“I don’t see why you can’t call them the real deal. We’ve got to be up for the fight and look forward to these games because there’s some big games coming in the next 6-8 weeks.”
Geelong and Richmond could be playing for second spot, with the Tigers leapfrogging the Cats on the back of yesterday’s win over Hawthorn.
And Henderson is excited about the challenge that lies ahead at Simonds Stadium.
“I think it’s great for the club to get a big Melbourne club like Richmond down here,” he said.
“It’s a big marquee match up and it’s good that we’re both near the top of the ladder and playing some reasonable footy. It’s going to be a big one for the club and we’re looking forward to it.”
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-cats-real-deal-richmond-ready-for-simonds-stadium-showdown/news-story/605b5ca806851b15edecad76f5c54693
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Someone remind me why we are playing down there again?
Especially when Geelong played home games at Etihad against effing Norf and sMelbourne for christs sake .
Not happy.
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Lethlan deserves to get rissoled for this stupid decision also. Can we get him back just so he can be fired again!
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So have Duncan & Hawkins been cited by the MRP?
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So have Duncan & Hawkins been cited by the MRP?
Surely so. And both need at least 1-2.
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Hawkins 2 weeks
Duncan 1 week
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Laughin'..... :gotigers
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wow
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So now, do they think they've already won?
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So now, do they think they've already won?
Yep
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So now, do they think they've already won?
Yep
Not this team
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The stars and moon are all aligning.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tom-hawkins-and-brodie-grundy-both-offered-twomatch-bans-by-mrp-20170807-gxqykh.html
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The warning signs are starting to appear. RFC getting pumped up.and GFC getting smashed in the media.
So no more but we've been here before haven't we??
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We should win by 15+ goals
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We should win by 15+ goals
Unfortunately we're not allowed to win by ten goals or more.
I predict a 59 point win :shh
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This would be the kinda game we would lose. Let's see if this group has really changed
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Geelong are a champion team that have been whacked constantly this week for not being up to it, and have constantly been able to respond to pressure with conviction.
We're a fragile group that have yet to handle expectations at any stage.
How can anyone possibly be confident?
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Geelong are a champion team that have been whacked constantly this week for not being up to it, and have constantly been able to respond to pressure with conviction.
We're a fragile group that have yet to handle expectations at any stage.
How can anyone possibly be confident?
Im not
This is exactly the type of game we lose
Were favourites comingboff a win, theyre underdogs coming off a loss
Media pumping us up media belting them around the ears.
Theyve lost a chunk of good players etc etc danger coming back.
Can imagine headline..
Cats tame tigers... :shh
Fuckmi hope we beat these limp gots
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Only beaten then 9 times since 1983....
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Bumper crowd tipped for Cats-Tigers, tickets limited
afl.com.au
8 August 2017
GEELONG is expecting Saturday's blockbuster clash against Richmond to draw the biggest crowd at Simonds Stadium since the 2013 qualifying final against Fremantle.
With a top-four spot on the line and Patrick Dangerfield returning from suspension to take on Brownlow favourite, Dustin Martin, the Cats hope the crowd will get near to the qualifying final attendance of 32,458.
Even with Joel Selwood injured and the Match Review Panel hitting the Cats hard, the game shapes as one of the most crucial contests this season.
The Cats have not declared the game a sell-out because limited seats are made available daily when reserved seat holders who can't make the game make their ticket available as part of the club's seat return program.
Although the process happens daily, Geelong expects more seats to be available later in the week as part of that resale program.
Chief commercial executive Justin Reeves told AFL.com.au the 3000 tickets available to Richmond members had been snapped up but he expected more Tiger fans to attend the game.
"To play a big Melbourne club at Simonds Stadium on our home ground is fantastic," Reeves said.
He said it was important to the Cats to be able to play Melbourne teams at home with the capacity increasing due to the redevelopment of the stadium and the introduction of lights giving the AFL more flexibility when scheduling Geelong games.
The Cats have attracted three crowds above 30,000 this season after the Brownlow Stand was opened with a crowd of 30,458 against Adelaide in round 11 the biggest of the season.
The only previous crowd above 30,000 at Simonds Stadium this century was the Cats' first game under lights in 2013, with the qualifying final crowd being the biggest crowd since 1993 when the Cats played Essendon.
Geelong and Richmond have not attracted more than 30,000 to a game at Simonds Stadium since round 18, 1967 when the two teams later played each other in the Grand Final.
Cats CEO Brian Cook has been annoyed at ongoing commentary questioning the decision to schedule the game at Simonds Stadium and perplexed at any suggestion it should be moved to play at Richmond's home ground.
The same match at the MCG in round 21 last season when Richmond were out of the finals race attracted 45,567 spectators, while a Cats home game at the MCG in round seven, 2014 attracted just 34,377 people.
Cook told K-Rock on Friday night the Cats make $400,000 more with a packed Simonds Stadium than they would if they attracted a 60,000 crowd to the MCG.
Geelong plays seven games at Simonds Stadium this season but is lobbying to have more influence over where it plays its 11 home games.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-07/bumper-crowd-tipped-for-catstigers-tickets-limited
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Richmond supporters were unhappy Saturday’s clash against Geelong was fixtured at Simonds Stadium due to the 36,000-seat capacity. With the bulk of the tickets already sold, some seats were still on sale through Ticketmaster from $80 each.
Richmond will attempt to smash one of the biggest hoodoos in the game when it tries to notch only its second win against the Cats since 2000.
Remarkably, Richmond has won only one of its past 20 games against the Cats and nine games in total over the past 34 years against Geelong.
But Geelong will be missing key trio Joel Selwood (ankle), Mitch Duncan and Tom Hawkins (both suspended) for the top-four showdown.
Midfielder Kane Lambert said the Tigers would relish the contest against the Cats on their home deck and ignore the lopsided history.
“We go down there as the hunters and we are going to hunt them,” Lambert told the Herald Sun.
“The beauty about us is the process and way we want to play and if we start thinking about what has happened (in the past) or what could happen, it is just all outcome, so we just want to get the process right.”
Lambert said Hardwick deserved enormous credit for helping revive the team over the past year.
“He has been huge, he has ridden the ups along the way and he has always gone into bat for us and we love playing for him,” he said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-says-spotless-stadium-can-accommodate-richmond-fans-in-possible-qualifying-final/news-story/71eefe5630eb648c1a8c7de5df54b745
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If Geelong played Richmond st the Mcg on Saturday theyd get more than 60,000. We got that against a pathetic Hawthorn side on Sunday.
At least 70,000. Probably 75,000.....possibly 80,000.
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Geelong should play all their home matches at Kardinia Park.....would just be nice if some of those home matches occasionally also incuded Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton & Hawthorn.... :shh
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the footy gods smile again they lose three key players this type of thing has happened all yr.
Keep saying it i want us to play all teams at full strength then you know exactly where your at and there are no excuses.
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Not our fault Geelong players are ill disciplined .
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the footy gods smile again they lose three key players this type of thing has happened all yr.
Keep saying it i want us to play all teams at full strength then you know exactly where your at and there are no excuses.
They did.
Adelaide and St Kilda ;D
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the footy gods smile again they lose three key players this type of thing has happened all yr.
Keep saying it i want us to play all teams at full strength then you know exactly where your at and there are no excuses.
If we play our first final and the opposition is missing key players and that falls to our advantage and we win.
Then i dont give a stuff really
We both know the list has deficiencies but thats not gping to change with halfstep.
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Finals is always about a bit of luck with everything, if its us and not others all well and good. Stupid agrument
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Make no mistake cats will come out firing even with injuries and suspensions we need to be switched on and play our game 4 qtrs and be strong mentally.Hopefully Carallsella can give them his know hows from cat days.
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Make no mistake cats will come out firing even with injuries and suspensions we need to be switched on and play our game 4 qtrs and be strong mentally.Hopefully Carallsella can give them his know hows from cat days.
Time to show them how to stick it sideways.
Its time for change
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Anywhere, Anytime Tigers
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This is the match that will define Richmond. We won 5 in a row and for brought down by the crows. Had a good win against port and made to look ordinary against Saints. Overcome the mental hurdles of being favourites against a top 4 season with the world hoping we will fail so they can rip on us come Monday and we are finals ready
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We've been beaten up for 34 years by a side traditionally regarded as "handbaggers" - an absolute disgrace and embarrassment.....our ultimate "line in the sand" match....instruct all our expendable players to go the knuckle....maybe even bring in Townsend...... :shh
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AFL website has us favourites and winning by 25 pts :o.
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Match preview: Geelong v Richmond
afl.com.au
9 August 2017
SUMMARY
There's been carnage at the Cattery over the past week, the type that's created ripples that could ascend into waves as the team's charge to September hits multiple speedbumps. They've lost Joel Selwood to an ankle injury that will at the very least cost him the remaining three games; the captain hopes he'll replicate the 2016 feats of Tom Liberatore and recover from surgery in time for finals, but he's up against it. Tom Hawkins and Mitch Duncan are out suspended after undisciplined acts in the loss to the Sydney Swans – Hawkins for this match and the next – but Patrick Dangerfield will return in one positive for the team. The Tigers are flying, having won six of their last seven games, and are third on the ladder. Their defence is ranked No.1 in the competition, and they look set to finish at least in the top four - and possibly in the top two - with Jack Riewoldt hoping to return from a sickening eye injury after two games out.
WHERE AND WHEN: Simonds Stadium, Saturday, August 12, 2.10pm AEST
LAST FIVE MEETINGS
R21, 2016, Geelong 10.22 (82) d Richmond 12.6 (78) at the MCG
R5, 2015, Geelong 12.13 (85) d Richmond 11.10 (76) at the MCG
R7, 2014, Geelong 11.15 (81) d Richmond 12.4 (76) at the MCG
R6, 2013, Geelong 20.11 (131) d Richmond 13.9 (87) at the MCG
R4, 2012, Geelong 11.9 (75) d Richmond 9.11 (65) at Simonds Stadium
THE SIX POINTS
1. The Tigers might be ranked first for defence, but the Cats are second for scoring. However, Hawkins – who won't play - is their top goal-scorer with Dangerfield second, and the Brownlow medalist will need to log more midfield minutes with Selwood and Duncan out.
2. Without much else to hang their hats on at the moment, the Cats could look to their previous record against the Tigers for positivity. They've won the last 12 head-to-heads, and the Tigers haven't won in Geelong since 2006.
3. It will be unfamiliar territory for the Selwood-less Cats. Since his debut in 2007, Selwood has played 246 of a possible 261 games. He's missed just two since the start of 2013.
4. Dustin Martin had 36 disposals when the teams last met and was one of the Tigers' best. The spotlight will remain on him for the final three rounds with Dangerfield and now Zach Merrett ineligible for the Brownlow medal.
5. Both sides have been strong marking the ball inside 50 this season. The Tigers are ranked second averaging 14.2, ahead of the Cats who are equal third with an average of 12.9.
6. With Dangerfield back, it will be a battle of the League's top two performers in the Official AFL Player Ratings, brought to you by Schick. Dangerfield is No.1 with 744.9 points and Martin No.2 with 613.2.
IT’S A BIG WEEK FOR… Chris Scott.
Holes up forward, holes in the midfield, holes in a leadership sense and coming off a loss, we'll see just what the Cats – and their coach, who has also battled the flu this week – are made of on Saturday.
PREDICTION: Richmond by 25 points.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-08/match-preview-geelong-v-richmond
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Ticketmaster site is saying no more tickets on sale.
http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/venueartist/303171/1055634?artistid=1055634&minorcatid=711&date=2017-8-12
And the excuse for us playing down there according to the AFL is our poor form in 2016 and "contractual obligations" ::).
Contracts and poor form sent Tigers down the highway
SEN
8 August 2017
Richmond’s poor form in 2016 led its top-four blockbuster clash with Geelong being scheduled at Simonds Stadium rather than the MCG, according to Andrew Dillon.
Tiger members have been frustrated by their inability to get a ticket to see the highly-anticipated contest on Saturday afternoon with Simonds Stadium’s capacity of just 34,000 well short of Richmond’s average attendance of 46,799.
The AFL’s interim football operations boss told SEN Breakfast that contractual obligations – and Richmond’s substandard form last year – finished resulted in the game being scheduled at the Cattery.
"When we're putting the fixture together, there's a whole heap of different factors that we have to take into account," Dillon said.
"One of the first things we take into account is what are the contractual obligations we have with venues and down at Geelong we have to play, under the contract we've got, eight home games there.
"Just by the Victorian opponents Geelong have had this year, it's fallen that Richmond, which would normally be a game at the 'G, had to be one of the games they played at Skilled Stadium because they also had games against some of the larger Victorian clubs that they've played at the MCG.
"And that was probably taking into account Richmond's performance last year, which obviously when you look in a lens now with Richmond in the top four, you probably wouldn't have fixtured it there but when the fixture was done in October last year, that was the call that was made."
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/08/08/contracts-and-poor-form-sent-tigers-down-the-highway/
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..but apparently not taking into account Essendon & Carlton's performances who both finished several places lower and who we outdrew....and whilst the former might've had high expectations for this year, the latter certainly wouldn't have...utter bollocks guv'nor...
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4 of the past 5 defeats under 10 points . Were due a win with a little interest.
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..but apparently not taking into account Essendon & Carlton's performances who both finished several places lower and who we outdrew....and whilst the former might've had high expectations for this year, the latter certainly wouldn't have...utter bollocks guv'nor...
The Xavier cronies at the AFL have disrespected our club for too long. About time their poo decisions and favourite playing is exposed
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Cotchin said the fact Geelong were missing personnel - led by opposing captain Joel Selwood - wouldn't make the task any easier.
"It was season-defining for Hawthorn. We knew they were going to come," he said.
"But we brought consistency of effort and intensity to the contest. Our guys were really good.
"This Saturday is going to be massive.
"Selwood out doesn't change the equation ... they've got plenty of talent, whether it's forwards, backs or mids. We need to be at our best.
"Geelong will suggest they were disappointing on Friday night against a revved-up Swans.
"On their home deck they're always bloody hard to beat and we're looking forward to the challenge."
Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-08-10/cotchin-keeps-focus
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Feel like this game will be decided by a goal or less...
Have to say though we owe them a right royal flogging for all the years of being bunnies
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Just hope all this media hype didn't get to our heads cause when it does we get ahead of ourselves and crumble and be mentally weake.We a need good even spread against cats and need to shut them out in the first qtr especially ,they will likely come out firing.
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Fans furious at inflated prices for Ticketmaster Resale tickets
Claire Siracusa
The Age
10 August 2017
Tickets for the highly-anticipated Geelong-Richmond clash at Simonds Stadium, which has a capacity of 34,000, are being sold at up to four times their face value via Ticketmaster's official resale website, leaving fans furious.
While single tickets to the Saturday afternoon clash are still available to the public via Ticketmaster's regular portal, including reserved seat tickets that cost no more than $85 before fees, the only tickets available in multiples are general admission tickets, which do not guarantee a seat.
This means fans wanting to buy multiple reserved seat tickets, seated together, must resort to the Ticketmaster Resale site, where some tickets are being sold at four times their face-value price.
General admission tickets were also being sold at inflated prices on Ticketmaster Resale, including some at more than four times the face value price, putting the resale ticket price, before fees, at more than $100. Some ticket prices on the resale portal were raised by only a few dollars.
Prices on the Ticketmaster Resale site are set by the seller of the tickets, but Ticketmaster charges a delivery fee whether a ticket is digital or not.
Delivery for PDF tickets sent by email is $3.95 per transaction, based on ticket type. A delivery fee of $17.90 per transaction applies for tickets sent by post.
Footy fans were unhappy with the system, with journalist Shane McInnes' tweet, describing the situation as "legal scalping", prompting some angry responses.
Others still were looking at the bigger picture.
But some were more circumspect, pointing out that people buy from the resale site at their own risk.
Many Richmond fans in particular have expressed their displeasure at the number of people who will likely be shut out of the small Geelong stadium.
AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan said home and away games were "affordably priced".
"We don't like scalping. We don't condone it, and for certain games it's illegal," he said on Thursday.
"For our home and away games, our games are affordably priced, you can get in for $25 if there is capacity.
"[Scalping] is only an issue in the exceptional game."
McLachlan also explained the decision to fixture the game in Geelong.
"Well it's a Geelong home game. That's their home venue. I think people understand that. They have a first-class facility down there. That's where they play the majority of their games.
"I think they play three or four games in Melbourne.
"With full availability of the venue down there rather than it being unavailable for six or seven rounds that game may have been fixtured as a big game at the MCG.
"[We] make decisions based on the previous year's form about which of the three or four are played in town."
Earlier this week, interim AFL football operations boss Andrew Dillon admitted if the fixture was drawn up now, Richmond wouldn't be playing Geelong at Simonds Stadium.
"Just by the Victorian opponents Geelong have had this year, it's fallen that Richmond, which would normally be a game at the 'G, had to be one of the games they played at Skilled Stadium because they also had games against some of the larger Victorian clubs that they've played at the MCG," Dillon said on SEN radio.
"And that was probably taking into account Richmond's performance last year, which obviously when you look in a lens now with Richmond in the top four, you probably wouldn't have fixtured it there but when the fixture was done in October last year, that was the call that was made."
Ticketmaster has been contacted for comment.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/geelong-cats-v-richmond-tigers-fans-furious-at-inflated-prices-for-ticketmaster-resale-tickets-20170810-gxte4u.html
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Looks like the Cats are going small as well up forward this week.
GEELONG coach Chris Scott has guaranteed that Daniel Menzel and Steven Motlop will return for Saturday’s blockbuster against Richmond.
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/sport/afl/daniel-menzel-and-steven-motlop-back-for-geelong-against-richmond/news-story/9eeb332e796b08d0853eabf5745faae0
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Why doesn't anyone call it the AFL and their feeble excuse that richmonds form last year contributed to it??? Carlton have won 4-5 spoons in 15 years yet haven't played down there, their form last year was worse than ours, the pies? Bombers? Why us? Why isn't any journalist or presenter rebutting that pathetic excuse?
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Why doesn't anyone call it the AFL and their feeble excuse that richmonds form last year contributed to it??? Carlton have won 4-5 spoons in 15 years yet haven't played down there, their form last year was worse than ours, the pies? Bombers? Why us? Why isn't any journalist or presenter rebutting that pathetic excuse?
I agree.
And I think it's only fair that we have to play down there sometimes regardless of how we are going. It's their home ground. But only if that is the same for every other club.
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Well let's see if the Pies and the Scum play down there next year
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I had a dream we won by 11 points.
Mind you ive got the flu at the moment and am on all sorts of seemingly dream inducing medicines :moosegrin
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I had a dream we won by 11 points.
Mind you ive got the flu at the moment and am on all sorts of seemingly dream inducing medicines :moosegrin
Did the Bullies beat the Giants in your dream as well Dooks ??
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Richmond say Simonds Stadium suits them
The Age
11 August 2017
Richmond are banking on their solid interstate record helping them break a hoodoo against Geelong, despite Simonds Stadium being just an hour down the road.
The Tigers haven't trumped the Cats in their last 12 outings, and haven't won in Geelong since 2006.
But Richmond coach Damien Hardwick is bullish about their chances of getting up in the top-four clash on Saturday afternoon.
On their side is the fact the Cats will be missing stars Joel Selwood (injury) and suspended duo Tom Hawkins and Mitch Duncan, although Patrick Dangerfield returns from a one-match ban.
"We've just fallen short the last three or four times and they've probably had too much experience," Hardwick said.
"We slowly feel we're getting better at taking them on and we're looking forward to the challenge of going down there.
"It's very much like an interstate trip, the hostile environment is there and our boys have got a great interstate record.
"It's only an hour down the highway but it feels like that sort of game."
The Tigers have won three interstate games this season and lost two, with the round-nine loss to the Giants coming via a goal in the last minute.
Richmond's defence is the competition's strongest and Hardwick felt this would stand up well at Simonds Stadium.
"If anything it's a smaller, skinnier sized ground and Geelong's pressure there is very good but ours is very good on a regular basis and we think it will go up again so we're excited to see how that works for us," he said.
"We think it will suit our style of game with our pressure and contested-ball situation."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-say-simonds-stadium-suits-them-20170810-gxtxdb.html
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KB right royally mozzed us this morning so at this stage I'd be happy with any score that results in us winning the game.
I've never understood why after all these unsuccessful years Richmond supporters and personalities talk us up as soon as they get a chance. Just setting themselves up to look stupid
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I've been talking Richmond up all year to anyone who will listern from round 1 . It started as just a bit of fun and friendly banter . In reality I didn't believe we could ever be the highest placed Victorian team with 3 rounds to go .
Being a resident of WA , with most of my mates either Eagles or Dockers- I copped it , especially all those games where we kept snatching defeat from the jaws of victory . My stuff was filled with memes mocking Richmond.
But something has happened over the past couple of months and let me tell you the silence is deafening
I say embrace the moment.....you never know when we will be in this position again .
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I had a dream we won by 11 points.
Mind you ive got the flu at the moment and am on all sorts of seemingly dream inducing medicines :moosegrin
Did the Bullies beat the Giants in your dream as well Dooks ??
Nothing to report. I'll keep you informed of any updates.
In the meantime, i need Doc's help
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I had a dream Dusty was ineligible to win the brownlow......but ended up winning the Norm Smith this year :shh
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I had a dream Dusty was ineligible to win the brownlow......but ended up winning the Norm Smith this year :shh
Its only a good dream if he doesn't up a Norm Smith medallist like Bucks..
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As long as all of our players get at least one medal on GF day I couldn't give a stuff who wins the Norm Smith...
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As long as all of our players get at least one medal on GF day I couldn't give a stuff who wins the Norm Smith...
I would contest that.
Bachar Houli would cause a meltdown.
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As long as all of our players get at least one medal on GF day I couldn't give a stuff who wins the Norm Smith...
I would contest that.
Bachar Houli would cause a meltdown.
Geez could you imagine?
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Ticketmaster accused of running "legalised blackmarket"
Rachel Eddie
New Daily
11 August 2017
AFL fans are being gouged up to $450 to watch a top-four AFL clash this weekend, sparking allegations of ticket resellers running “legalised scalping”.
According to the Ticketmaster resales site, tickets for the key Geelong-Richmond match on Saturday are being offered for as much as $447, while face-value tickets are on offer for as little as $52.
Simonds Stadium in Geelong has a capacity of 34,000, about one-third the size of Melbourne’s MCG, and too small to accommodate the total demand from Richmond’s 70,000-plus fans.
That has left many scrambling to buy tickets at inflated prices from other sources such as Ticketmaster Resale.
Single tickets in reserved seats were still available on the general Ticketmaster website for around $52 on Friday, while tickets on the Ticketmaster Resale website ranged from about $100 up to $447 for top seats.
General admission tickets in Victoria normally sell for $25.
Sellers set the ticket price on the resale site, and Ticketmaster pockets a selling fee.
Gerry Eeman, president of the AFL Fans Association, said the Ticketmaster Resale website allowed for “blatant profiteering”.
“What these resale sites do is essentially provide a platform for scalpers to hoard tickets for the sole purpose of reselling them at rip-off prices,” Mr Eeman told The New Daily.
“What we don’t get here at the Fans Association, is why that’s acceptable and why someone doesn’t step up and do something about it.
“It’s not a new issue, everyone knows it’s going on and it’s getting worse.”
Mr Eeman said tickets should not be resold at anything beyond face value, and that websites would serve a good function if that was mandated.
“What it’s currently doing is encouraging blatant profiteering, and it’s a legalised blackmarket.”
Radio sports journalist Shane McInnes blamed Ticketmaster for facilitating the “legal scalping” and for taking a cut.
President of the Richmond Cheer Squad, Gerard Egan, said he had heard a lot of people complain about the resale website this week because of the popularity of the match.
A spokesperson for Ticketmaster told The New Daily the platform was a safe purchase option that guaranteed authenticity.
“Ticketing marketplaces are dynamic and prices change in line with demand. Ticket holders, not Ticketmaster Resale, control the inventory and the price of the tickets they list.
“With high profile events such as Geelong v Richmond, tickets are sometimes listed at prices higher than the face value, but they will often be listed at or below face value as well.”
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http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/afl/2017/08/11/geelong-cats-richmond-tigers-ticketmaster/
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Richmond has its best chance to conquer its Kardinia Park hoodoo against Geelong this week
Glenn McFarlane,
Herald Sun
11 August 2017
JOEL Bowden could feel his anxiety start to rise almost as soon as his car hit the Princes Freeway.
As a Richmond footballer across 14 seasons, he normally felt composed headed into AFL matches, but playing Geelong at Geelong always seemed a different proposition. Five times he made the trip to Kardinia Park (now known as Simonds Stadium), and only once — in 2006 — did the return trip coincide with a Tigers victory.
“I drove down there knowing that I was going to be playing on Brad Ottens when Geelong was at their absolute zenith,” said Bowden, who played 265 games between 1996 and 2009.
“I can tell you it was never a very pleasant drive down there. They were always a good team when we played them, and we weren’t a very good side.”
The venue that has had more name changes than John Cougar Mellencamp has had one constant — it was near impossible to conquer.
Long before the national competition was created, when Geelong was the “road trip” for Melbourne teams, it was always a formidable challenge. It hasn’t become any easier in the AFL era, with the Cats embarking on one of their golden eras, making the ground one of the game’s few remaining fortresses.
Richmond has fared as poorly as any clubs in recent times. They have won there only four times in the past 40 years.
Saturday marks the Tigers’ first venture to Simonds Stadium in five years, and while it is far from a welcome one, given the fixturing will see many of the club’s members unable to get a ticket to the 34,000-strong venue, it does give Richmond a serious chance of breaking a long drought.
The club is not only chasing its first win at the ground since Bowden and his teammates — along with coach Terry Wallace — produced a stunning upset in 2006; it is also trying to win its first game against the Cats anywhere since that day.
In between have sat 12 consecutive losses — a few heartbreaking ones, and more than a few one-sided, embarrassing encounters.
Bowden, who now works with AFL NT in Darwin, expects that to change on Saturday. In a year in which the club is trying to exorcise past demons, it seems an opportune time to do the same against the team and the venue that has caused them so much pain.
“We probably went down there with a negative mindset because of what had happened in the past, but I don’t think that will be an issue to the players of today,” Bowden said.
“The new guys haven’t played there. They will drive down there knowing they have just beaten Hawthorn, and knowing Geelong are susceptible at home because Sydney touched them up last week. They also won’t have (Joel) Selwood, Tom Hawkins and Mitch Duncan, so I don’t think history matters anymore.”
Eight of Richmond’s 22 players have never played at the ground in an AFL match. None of the other 14 others have won a game there wearing a Richmond jumper, albeit Josh Caddy had first-hand experience in his time at Geelong.
Richmond’s two most recent wins at the ground — 2006 and 1990 — came as boilovers. Given Geelong’s outs and Richmond’s more trusting form this season, the Tigers will go into Saturday’s game as clear-cut favourites.
Wallace, who oversaw that 2006 win, has tipped the Tigers, but knows they still have some significant factors to overcome.
“They’ve always been tough to beat down there,” Wallace said. “Teddy Whitten (13 losses and a draw) never played in a winning game down at Geelong ...”
“You have to factor in a bit of extra travel, the advantage of a home crowd, the flukiness of the wind, even with the new grandstand, the fact the ground is so skinny and there are certain nuances of playing there which the home side knows so well.”
One ex-Tiger said the narrowness of Simonds Stadium made opposition players feel “claustrophobic” at times. The ground, which measures 170m x 115m, is much narrower than the MCG’s 173m x 148m, making it a unique experience.
Kevin Bartlett this week recalled how Richmond used to hire two train carriages for the journey to Geelong during the 1960s and ‘70s.
“Tommy (Hafey) would get us to stop off at Werribee, so we could stretch our legs a bit,” Bartlett said. “We used to have a team meeting on the train.”
One year, when Barry Richardson was coach, they even stayed the previous night in Geelong, but it still resulted in a loss.
Bartlett is convinced the Cats’ “fortress” is about to fall: “Even if Geelong had their full side in, I reckon the Tigers would still be a great chance.
“But they haven’t got Selwood or Hawkins or Duncan, so there are no excuses this time. There has never been a greater opportunity to beat them down there over the past 20 years ...”
Even if the long-suffering Richmond fans are content taking it one hoodoo at a time, Bartlett believes Saturday’s game could provide a harbinger for something even bigger next month.
TIGERS AT THE CATTERY
Games: 50 Wins: 15 Losses: 35
Games in past 40 years 24: Wins: 4 Losses: 20
Saturday’s 22 players and total games at Kardinia Park
Geelong: 471 games
Richmond: 45 (includes 20 from Josh Caddy when he was playing for Geelong)
- Eight Tigers will play their first game at Simonds. No Tiger, other than Caddy (when in Cats colours) has won a game there.
- Richmond hasn’t played at the ground since 2012, and hasn’t won there — or against Geelong at any other venue — since Round 9, 2006
- In the past 15 times the Tigers have played at the venue, only once have they managed to score more than 100 points (in 2006)
FOUR WINS IN 40 YEARS
RICHMOND’S LAST FOUR WINS AT THE GROUND
ROUND 9, 2006 — RICHMOND 17.8 (110) D GEELONG 12.18 (90)
One of Terry Wallace’s most impressive wins as Richmond coach came off the back of playing star forward Matthew Richardson as a decoy to keep Matthew Scarlett out of the play. The Tigers found their goals from unlikely sources. Chris Hyde kicked four goals, Kayne Pettifer and Troy Simmonds scored three each and the ever-reliable Chris Newman won the three Brownlow Medal votes. Richmond overcame deficits at every change to kick five goals to nil in the final term.
ROUND 7, 1990 — RICHMOND 13.18 (96) D GEELONG 9.28 (82)
No one gave the Kevin Bartlett-coached Tigers a chance, so much so that not one tipster other than The Sun’s Kiss of Death selected the team that was then second bottom. Bartlett reminded the players of this fact in a stirring pre-game speech. Somehow, it worked. Four goals to Jeff Hogg, three goals to Des Ryan, who was alternating between the forward line and the wing with his brother Stephen, and a best afield performance from Tim Powell made the difference.
ROUND 8, 1982 — RICHMOND 11.23 (89) D GEELONG 12.15 (87)
A number of Richmond players planned to stay in Geelong after this game with former Cat turned Tiger Paul Sarah organising a big Saturday night out. But coach Francis Bourke threatened to put an end to those plans. In one break in play, Bourke told them if they didn’t win, they were all headed straight back to Melbourne that night. Sarah earned his night out with three goals and Dale Weightman recalled this week the celebrations went long into the night. Kevin Bartlett was reported for the only time in his career, for striking Bruce Nankervis, but ultimately got off.
ROUND 20, 1977 — RICHMOND 19.18 (132) D GEELONG 5.16 (46)
The outcome of this match, which took place 40 years ago tomorrow, was never in doubt. Five players kicked three goals apiece — David Cloke, Emmett Dunne, Bruce Monteith, Alan Noonan, and Geoff Raines — while Bartlett scored two and had 33 disposals. Neil Balme defeated Sam Newman in the ruck, and Mick Malthouse had a career-high 30 disposals.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/richmond-has-its-best-chance-to-conquer-its-kardinia-park-hoodoo-against-geelong-this-week/news-story/2d324031420a9f7b8f1f5365efa09944
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Naish missed after the siren once for another win from memory
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Started well. Good pressure. Goals to Caddy and Jack. Need to use what breeze there is.
Rich 12
Geel 1
A terrific start for the Tigers who have the opening two goals, and lead in effective disposals (18-4), clearances (3-1) and inside 50s (5-0).
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/21/geel-v-rich
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Grrr!
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They've won the last few clearances too easily. Can't allow these easy entries in their forward line :banghead.
12 - 13
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Broad going back with one-arm. Another goal to Geelong :banghead.
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Dusty short to Butler. Goes long. Punched through for a point.
13 - 19
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Mackie handballs across the line but not deliberate. Where's Deboy when you need him ::).
14 - 19
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Grigg passes to Jack. Hooks it badly :P.
15 - 19
Got to take your chances, Tiges!
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Ellis to Caddy. Ends up with Rance from 55. Goes long and it bounces out of bounds.
Grigg from the throw-in snaps but he misses as well.
16 - 19
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Mackie handballs across the line but not deliberate. Where's Deboy when you need him ::).
14 - 19
Disgraceful.
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As soon as the Cats got in front the commentators turned against us. Had to press the mute button
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The Cats are transitioning too easily. Against the breeze too.
We get it back. Prestia to Rioli to Jack. Goes long and Dusty marks well overhead in the forward pocket. Goal :gotigers.
Back in front!
Rich 3.4-22
Geel 3.1-19
23 mins Q1
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We've had the last 5 scoring shots but kicked 1.4.
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Don't have a TV in front of me at the moment, what's the breeze like?
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Got to cleaner than that Tiges.
Btw, frees are 3-7 ::)
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Great watching us play 2 down again this week. We're a nice club and don't like to take advantage of Geelong missing 3 of their best.
C Ellis is not an afl level Footballer, hasn't had a touch, and Soldo...
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Don't have a TV in front of me at the moment, what's the breeze like?
They were saying it was a 3 goal breeze at the start of the game. Now they are saying it's not such a big factor in the way the game is going.
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Menegola feigns a handpass and it's 50 against Cotch. Luckily, it's a poster.
22 - 20
1:18 to go.
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As soon as the Cats got in front the commentators turned against us. Had to press the mute button
Yep
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Our luck. The breeze dropped away during the middle of the quarter coinciding with Geelong's 3 goal burst. It's now back to a 3 goal advantage.
Quarter time
Richmond 3.4-22
Geelong 3.2-20
Goals: Riewoldt, Martin, Caddy.
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Commentators barracking Geelong home.
Umpires doing there best to ensure it happens :banghead
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Bests so far:- Lambert, Martin, Prestia
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That 5 minute patch we dropped away in the midfield and let them kick 3 goals quickly has hurt us badly.
Big quarter coming up. We've got to make the most of every forward entry and kick goals against the breeze. The one positive is we need to keep the ball low and closer to the ground given our short forward line set-up. We need to keep numbers back behind the ball and try to hit them quickly on the counter with our speed.
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Bests so far:- Lambert, Martin, Prestia
Agree with that.
Caddy off injured :-\.
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Don't have a TV in front of me at the moment, what's the breeze like?
There's no breeze affecting the game
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Caddy done for the day. Down to 21.
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Come on tiges
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Sloppy, Tiges.
But we get the free. Butler from 45. Goal :gotigers.
Rich 4.4-28
Geel 3.2-20
Caddy gone with a hammy :(.
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Dion Prestia was again prominent in the first quarter with a game-high ten disposals (at 90 percent efficiency), five contested possessions and three score involvements for the Tigers.
Richmond finish the quarter with a two point lead, and did marginally have the better of the game, leading in clearances (11-9) and inside 50 entries (16-10).
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/21/geel-v-rich
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Caddy done for the day. Down to 21.
Injury type?
He's a big body that often has more impact as games go on. Could be a significant loss.
Edit: Just saw MT's post. Hamstring.
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Shedder tries to get around Lonergan and turns it over. Geelong run it up for a goal :banghead.
28 - 26
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Caddy done for the day. Down to 21.
19 actually
But according to many he's useless so we shouldn't miss him
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Murdoch shirt front on Butler. He's okay.
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How is Jack able to mark when he's held like that :banghead
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Taylor looks too good for rance
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Grigg to Cotch to Lambert.
Jack held 3 TIMES and no free kick >:(.
Geelong clear and set up a shot on goal. Thankfully it's a miss.
28 - 27
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Frees: 4 - 12
::)
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Stuffing around with footy and we cough it up :banghead.
Oh look, another free to Geelong ::).
28 - 28
Best for Geelong so far: Ump 1, Ump 2, Ump 3.
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Frees now 4-14
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How many stuffing free kicks stuff me
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Slow clap C Ellis gets his first touch and turns it over
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We have gone to sleep
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Frees 4-16
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Check out Houli with 15:30 to go in the second quarter.
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We got one!
5-16
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And now Ellis with 11:30 minutes to go when Geelong kick a goal.
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Understatement but we need a goal a.s.a.p.
Too many sloppy disposals by us.
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Houli SSSSHANK
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stuff you Houli
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Jack long to FF. Mackie drops the marks and it's a throw-in. Scramble and it's a ball-up 35m out.
Geelong try a clearing kick but Houli marks. Houli then gets 50. 20m out. Misses :facepalm.
Rich 4.5-29
Geel 5.5-35
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Rance is a stuffing disgrace today
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Need to have more impact on our tackles >:(
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Bad bounce gifts Geelong another goal :help.
Bad kicking is bad footy and Houli's miss is punished. 11 point play for Geelong.
29 - 41
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Senior players at their best
One misses from 20 out
The other has a case of butter fingers
wankers
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They're now saying the breeze isn't as strong as the first quarter.
So we're just playing crap! Dumb dumb dumb!
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A bad missed set shot at goal from Bachar Houli after a 50 metre penalty continues the Tigers inaccuracy. Richmond has recorded a scoring accuracy of 54 percent this season, which is the third-lowest percentage.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/21/geel-v-rich
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Why don't our players hold Onto the ball when tackled and bottle it up?? We panic and dispose of it and get called for htb, when smart players hold onto it and force the ballup
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We're continually coughing it up and losing the 50/50 contests. It's just killing us.
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HOW WAS THAT NOT A FREE TO JACK
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R u serious!??? That was a def free to Jack :banghead :banghead
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Rioli stole it. To Lambert. Jack pushed in the back and again no free :scream.
Geelong clear.
Of course, they get a free and another free in their forward line ::).
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I'm about to blow a gasket
We are getting teamed here
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Then a free in front of goal to Geelong This is an absolute joke umpires have impacted the scoreboard
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Frees: 6 - 18
::)
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Go and get stuffed u cheating pricks!!!!
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stuff u AFL u biased stuffwits
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Soldo to Prestia. Long to Jack but he has 3 opponents and Geelong clear.
We get it back in defence. Grigg kicks it 65m and it's paid deliberate :lol.
We get it back. Corey Ellis to Butler but it misses the target. Another dumb turnover by us.
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If someone tells me cellis deserves his spot once more it's going to get ugly
What a stuffing gimp
And to think someone like Miles gets dropped for him
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Frees 6-19 :banghead
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Game over
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Not good enough.
4 goals down now.
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Between the effort we are showing, the hard barracking of the fox commentators and the umpires doing us over, this is extremely unpleasant.
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Half-time
Richmond 3.4 4.5-29
Geelong 3.2 8.5-53
Goals: Riewoldt, Martin, Butler, Caddy.
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To be fair it's hard when to get anything going when the opposition are allowed to literally do what they please against our players wherever they have the ball or not. Frees 20-7 is rubbish.
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Between the effort we are showing, the hard barracking of the fox commentators and the umpires doing us over, this is extremely unpleasant.
totally agree
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Frees 6-19 :banghead
How is that not a stat worth mentioning during the commentary?
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Well at least it's not raining
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Umpires have given them the momentum. That's all that is needed.
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8 of the 9 last scoring shots and the last 5 goals to Geelong says it all.
After dropping an inside mid like Miles, losing a bigger body like Caddy has been a massive loss.
Our forward line is dysfunctional as our mids are getting beaten and when we do get the footy we are continually missing targets or just plain gifting possession back to Geelong. Lonergan and Mackie are having a field day picking us off.
Tom Lonergan has done a great job disrupting the ball movement of the Cats, with six intercept possessions, four spoils and two tackles. He has also provided offence with 11 disposals at 91 percent.
Mackie has a game-high eight intercept possessions for Geelong.
An impressive quarter from the Cats who gained the ascendancy in contested possessions (41-30), and in a game where territory is important won the inside 50 count (15-11).
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/21/geel-v-rich
Of course, it makes it harder when you're playing against 25 ::). Frees 7 - 20 ::). The ones not paid against Jack were a joke! :banghead
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Umpires have given them the momentum. That's all that is needed.
True but geez we're playing dumb footy
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Frees 6-19 :banghead
How is that not a stat worth mentioning during the commentary?
When it was 14-4 Eddie mcGuire said
"And the umpires are umpiring bee-utifully here today"
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If someone tells me cellis deserves his spot once more it's going to get ugly
What a stuffing gimp
And to think someone like Miles gets dropped for him
But he is not even the worse Ellis we have out there.
For those peanuts that think we can win finals with Grigg, Houli and BEllis, take a look today. The first sign of some decent pressure they are as weak as pee.
I hope all 3 get injuries today and can FO. I'm am so over watching their poo.
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And our good players are either MIA or butchering the ball :banghead
And the usual suspects at the hint of pressure buckle like always
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Frees 6-19 :banghead
How is that not a stat worth mentioning during the commentary?
When it was 14-4 Eddie mcGuire said
"And the umpires are umpiring bee-utifully here today"
I though he said" the crowd were umpiring beautifully."
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And our good players are either MIA or butchering the ball :banghead
And the usual suspects at the hint of pressure buckle like always
Cotxhin and Martin very quiet that quarter
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Frees 6-19 :banghead
How is that not a stat worth mentioning during the commentary?
When it was 14-4 Eddie mcGuire said
"And the umpires are umpiring bee-utifully here today"
thats why I press mute
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Possies:
Prestia 18
Lambert 14
B.Ellis 13
Floss 12
Houli 12
Dusty 11
Edwards 11
Cotch 11
Grigg 10
Broad 10
Macca 8
Rioli 8
Astbury 8
Jack 7
Rance 4
Nank 4
Grimes 4
C.Ellis 4
Soldo 3
Castagna 3
Butler 3
Caddy 2..... gone with a hammy.
Total: 180 - 192 ( cont. 69 - 77 )
Kicks: 92 - 101
Hballs: 88 - 91
Clearances: 18 - 16 ( centre: 6 - 5; stoppages 12 - 11 )
Inside 50s: 28 - 25
Marks In50: 4 - 3
Tackles: 34 - 41
Hitouts: 17 - 24
Frees: 7 - 20
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/21/geel-v-rich
You know we're struggling when we're handballing as much as we're kicking. It means we're overpossessing and not going fast and direct.
Too many passengers so far.
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And our good players are either MIA or butchering the ball :banghead
Our good players can only carry these flogs so long.
A perfect example was when Harry T had the drop on Rance, so Rance just backed back into Taylor hoping for a 3rd man up to help him out, but of course nothing came. Astbury was just content to make sure his man couldn't get it.
Add that to Houli and BEllis in the backline and what hope do Rance, Grimes and Vlastuin have.
It's worked till now because all 3 play selfless footy where the other are just playing for their spot.
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If someone tells me cellis deserves his spot once more it's going to get ugly
What a stuffing gimp
And to think someone like Miles gets dropped for him
But he is not even the worse Ellis we have out there.
For those peanuts that think we can win finals with Grigg, Houli and BEllis, take a look today. The first sign of some decent pressure they are as weak as pee.
I hope all 3 get injuries today and can FO. I'm am so over watching their poo.
rubbish CEllis is the worst player on an afl list
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Sadly, that's true so far. We haven't handled the increase in pressure. No Hawkins, Selwood & Duncan and they are still pantsing us.
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If someone tells me cellis deserves his spot once more it's going to get ugly
What a stuffing gimp
And to think someone like Miles gets dropped for him
But he is not even the worse Ellis we have out there.
For those peanuts that think we can win finals with Grigg, Houli and BEllis, take a look today. The first sign of some decent pressure they are as weak as pee.
I hope all 3 get injuries today and can FO. I'm am so over watching their poo.
rubbish CEllis makes BEllis look like a norm smith medalist. CEllis is the worst player on an afl list
Vodka or beer?
Either way you are clueless.
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Alex Rance, the anchor of the Richmond defence, has had his hands full with Harry Taylor. Rance is ranked No.1 in the AFL for intercept possessions this season, but has had just the two intercepts in the first half while conceding three goals to Taylor.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/21/geel-v-rich
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Frees 6-19 :banghead
How is that not a stat worth mentioning during the commentary?
When it was 14-4 Eddie mcGuire said
"And the umpires are umpiring bee-utifully here today"
thats why I press mute
I lost my schitt at the Riewoldt non-free
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Another free to Geelong to start the third qtr and they get another set shot from it. Thankfully a miss.
29 - 54
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Frees: 7 - 23
Geez, they've been hot on HTB today. 14 HTB frees paid ( 4 - 10 ).
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Frees 24-7
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24-8 we got one!
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Got to lift simple as that to many players missing in action today and there senior to.Always happens tho when pressure on we go to water.Frees kicks a disgraceful.If we cannot match cats with the outs they got were behind thr eight ball.
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Geez, we've made their second tiers look like stars today :banghead.
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If someone tells me cellis deserves his spot once more it's going to get ugly
What a stuffing gimp
And to think someone like Miles gets dropped for him
But he is not even the worse Ellis we have out there.
For those peanuts that think we can win finals with Grigg, Houli and BEllis, take a look today. The first sign of some decent pressure they are as weak as pee.
I hope all 3 get injuries today and can FO. I'm am so over watching their poo.
rubbish CEllis makes BEllis look like a norm smith medalist. CEllis is the worst player on an afl list
Vodka or beer?
Either way you are clueless.
Says the bloke that tries to argue a 3 possession half with 2 turnovers is better. pee off bt
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Got to lift simple as that to many players missing in action today and there senior to.Always happens tho when pressure on we go to water.Fres kicks a disgraceful.If we cannot match cats with the outs they got were behind thr eight ball.
Lesson: Don't drop Miles when we're playing against opposition that like playing physical like Geelong.
Clearances: 0 - 5 this qtr.
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How was that not a free kick, he dropped it in the tackle
One rule for them one for us
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Floss off HB 1-2 with Edwards. To Jack on the wing. Goes forward. We get a HTB free to Soldo. Short to Jack but can't take it. Geelong clear.
Sums up our day.
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Dusty swings around and hits the post from 50.
30 - 57
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Nank has been horrible
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Broad to Dusty to Rioli = goal :gotigers.
FINALLY!
Rich 5.6-36
Geel 8.9-57
13 mins Q3
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Keeping Soldo in the team was a big mistake. He's not up to it. Should've kept Miles and brought in speed.
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Two Cats off with injury and being tested (Menegola & Lonergan).
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How predictable are we when it's a point?
Kick in to the left hand side every time.
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Butler is looking sluggish
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Keeping Soldo in the team was a big mistake. He's not up to it. Should've kept Miles and brought in speed.
Keeping Soldo in the team was a big mistake. He's not up to it. Should've kept Miles and brought in speed.
Yep
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Keeping Soldo in the team was a big mistake. He's not up to it. Should've kept Miles and brought in speed.
Problem is Nank can't ruck on his own all day. He'll burn out.
We need a genuine 2nd tall stuff.
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Keeping Soldo in the team was a big mistake. He's not up to it. Should've kept Miles and brought in speed.
I agree and it's also messed up the Nank's game.
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Butler is looking sluggish
Murdoch cleaned Butler up earlier in the game. Still playing like it's affecting him.
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Jack set shot from 45 out ...... lays back on the kick and misses :scream.
37 - 57
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GUTHRIE DOUBLE HPLDING THE BALL NOT PAID
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Richmond lead the clearances from throw-ins (9-5) and has scored 2.2.(14) to 0.1.(1) from this source. Geelong lead the ball-up clearances 12-7, and has scored 0.4.(4) to zero from this source.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/21/geel-v-rich
LOL. These umps might as well have worn hoops today. That was clearly HTB and yet not paid ::).
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How canyou drop the ball in a tackle and not get pinged for incorrect disposal
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How canyou drop the ball in a tackle and not get pinged for incorrect disposal
And pick it back up and throw it again
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stuff OFF HOULI
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Great chase Houli on Motlop. Gets the free and 50.
Needs to kick this. Misses again :facepalm :banghead.
38 - 57
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You bettwr not miss Houli.....
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Jack free b/w wing/HF. Great kick low to Houli. Helicopter but this one goes through :gotigers.
Rich 6.8-44
Geel 8.9-57
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Panick stations in the fox commentary box! Dwayne Russel is losing his poo!!!!!!!€
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Free to Grigg 70m out. Jack almost marks. Scramble and it's a ball-up 15m out. Houli straight up in the air. Cotch gathers off the pack for a goal :gotigers
Rich 7.8-50
Geel 8.9-57
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Edwards off injured (facial apparently).
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OOTF. Free to Floss at HB. Across to Broad to HF. Grimes marks 70 out. Goes the low spearing pass towards Dusty but it's spoiled out of bounds 25m out. Thurlow nailed. Lambert to the square.
Geelong clear but we get it back. Rance now. Goes long. It's out of bounds 35 out.
Lambert out the back but it's rushed for a point.
51 - 57
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I feel sick
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3/4 time
Richmond 3.4 4.5 7.9-51
Geelong 3.2 8.5 8.9-57
Goals: Riewoldt, Martin, Butler, Cotchin, Houli, Rioli, Caddy.
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Better quarter
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well weve been good enough to bring it back. Game back in the balance after looking shot at half time.
Now, if were good enough, biggest qtr of footy coming up in the context of whether we're contenders or pretenders
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Good gutsy fight back after we looked like rolling over early in that quarter when we were 27 pts down. We had the last 7 scoring shots in the game (3.4).
We're going to have to win it against the run of the play. 8 of the last 9 goals have been kicked to the end Geelong will kick to in the last.
We might be down to 2 on the bench too. Caddy (hammy) and Edwards (cheek?). Mid you Geelong have some walking wounded too.
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GUTHRIE DOUBLE HPLDING THE BALL NOT PAID
Wth is going on?
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Never drop Miles again.man we could really use him today
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After Geelong started the third quarter well but squandered scoring chances, Richmond took control at clearances and as a result inside 50 entries were 14-5 in its favor from the ten minute mark of the quarter.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/21/geel-v-rich
Edwards had a gash on his cheek. So he's been stitched up. So only Caddy is out.
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Turnover by Geelong. Houli to Dusty. Goes to Soldo to Rioli but he's tackled and we've stuffed it up.
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Stanley off with a calf.
Cotch chips to Jack. Around the body. Bad bounce :scream for Butler and Geelong clear. Run it up the other end but lucky it's only a point.
51 - 58
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Broad has had the fumbles today.
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Floss to Soldo HB/wing. To Lambert off to Grigg to Dusty to Macca at HF and he hits up Prestia 50 out. Into the breeze. Goes left.
52 - 58
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Macca to Lambert to the square. Spills. Georgie fumbles and Geelong clear all the way to Taylor for a set shot :banghead.
Lucky he misses.
52 - 59
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I feel sick
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Vlastuin big last quarter
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Floss bomb to the centre but straight to Geelong. They get it forward but they miss again.
52 - 60
Floss does it again straight to the Cats.
But we get it back from Rance. We run it out but again stuff it up with another poor handball :banghead.
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Richmond now lead in forward 50 marks 9-5, with six different players contributing in this area. Harry Taylor has taken four of these five marks for Geelong, with Rhys Stanley (now off the ground) the only other player to take a forward 50 mark.
The Tigers lead the clearances 32-27 and also lead in scores from stoppages 4.4.(28) to 2.5.(17).
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/21/geel-v-rich
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Another turnover by overpossessing by hand :banghead
Geelong goal :banghead
52 - 66
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Who the hell turned that over :banghead
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14 points down. Don't think we can win it from here
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Eff
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Geez our disposal in the last 10 mins has killed us.
Another goal to Geelong.
That's it I reckon.
52 - 72
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You can't win games when you continually turn it over with dumb decision marking.
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Geelong down to one on the bench yet they have the momentum ::).
8 mins to go.
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Grigg to Rioli but his kick is smothered. Just outside F50.
Ellis inside 50. Dusty around the body = goal :gotigers.
Rich 8.10-58
Geel 10.12-72
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Cough it up again after we had first hands at the centre bounce.
Danger gets the free and poor defending allows Geelong an uncontested mark 20m out.
Wow he missed.
58 - 73
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Richmond has scored only 0.1.(1) from 40 chains started in its defensive 50. This season the Tigers average 15 points per game from 40 defensive 50 chains.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/21/geel-v-rich
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Lack footy smarts made to many school boy errors and to many players went in there shell cant handle the heat.
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You can't win games when you continually turn it over with dumb decisions.Make no mistake tho umpires are shocking.
:yep
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When the pressures on, big games, we still crumble.
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What's the point of bombing it from the kick-in (which we needed to do) when those up field don't set up for it :facepalm.
All over now.
58 - 80
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Some things never change.
LONG LIVE THE EGG :rollin
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Poor game from Houli
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When the pressures on, big games, we still crumble.
Lost it in the first quarter when we conceded 3 goals in mins. There's only been 2 goals kicked at that end since.
Jack misses. Our set shot goalkicking terrible again today.
59 - 80
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Second quarter killed this game.
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Put the cue in the rack,
Same same, jut can't handle it and once again lost at the selection table
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When the pressures on, big games, we still crumble.
This is what worrys me come to finals you can see we cant take pressure and are still weak and big name players go missing.
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Edwards crumbs a goal but all too late.
Rich 9.11-65
Geel 11.14-80
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Game over :thumbsdown
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With the outs cats had out not good enough. Ok it's a task winning there but gez we shoot ourselves sometimes.
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Harry Taylor has done sweet stuff all this year as far as kicking goals and yet he's kicked 4 against our supposedly best defence in the league :facepalm.
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Second quarter killed this game.
Make no mistake - the umpires played an equal part.
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Game over :thumbsdown
Time for the mute off and a channel change Julz :thumbsup
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Second quarter killed this game.
Make no mistake - the umpires played an equal part.
That's what I was referring to. Played catch up in the third, then a couple cheap goals to them in the forth broke our back.
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Final Score
Richmond 3.4 4.5 7.9 9.12-66
Geelong 3.2 8.5 8.9 11.14-80
Goals: Martin 2, Riewoldt, Caddy, Rioli, Cotchin, Butler, Houli, Edwards.
Simply out-smarted, out-pressured and not good enough.
Umpiring in the first half especially was a joke.
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I agree guys umpires killed us but we just make stupid and poor decisions to and turn it over.To many set shots we still miss to.
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The set ups are still disgraceful. There is never anyone standing on the goal line when the ball comes over the top. Similarly from the kick ins we always kick it to their advantage. Soldo was shocking in the rock almost Hampson-esque at times.
The only positive for me is you would think Miles plays out the rest of the year
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Second quarter killed this game.
Make no mistake - the umpires played an equal part.
That's what I was referring to. Played catch up in the third, then a couple cheap goals to them in the forth broke our back.
Fair enough.
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If dangerfield is on the lhs of the ground thats whete we kick it. Dumb football, dumb team selection, dumb coaching
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Poor game from Houli
Yeah been.poor since camed back Dimma says his automatically in play players on form.
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Selection hurt us- Playing two down with cellis and soldo
Umpires killed us
Caddy going off early hurt
Rance got pantsed by a part time fwd
Houli is a disgrace, cost us two certain goals
cellis cost us a massive 12 point turn around just before halftime missing a simple handball when he had a 3 on 1
Very very disappointing effort and result
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I tell you what, Houli HAS to be dropped after today. Worst decision maker in the ground. Disposal efficiency south of 50% and 1 tackle.
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The Cats were able to win the contested possessions (150-132) and inside 50 entries (58-55), and in so doing deny Richmond the territorial advantage it has regularly had this season.
Geelong finished with 6.3.(39) from 27 forward half intercepts, while Richmond scored just 2.5.(17) from 25 such intercepts. This is the third worst score differential for the Tigers in this area in 2017.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/21/geel-v-rich
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I tell you what, Houli HAS to be dropped after today. Worst decision maker in the ground. Disposal efficiency south of 50% and 1 tackle.
:bow
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I tell you what, Houli HAS to be dropped after today. Worst decision maker in the ground. Disposal efficiency south of 50% and 1 tackle.
We know that's not going go happen
stuffing jokers
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Umpiring only becomes a factor if you let it. We fell asleep at the end of the 1st quarter and it really hurt us.
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The tradition of opposition but part players having season best games continues
Motlop
Guthrie
Stanley
FMD
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Umpiring only becomes a factor if you let it.
Rubbish it does >:(
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Before today we were talking about being a top 2 side but realistically how can we be with a ruckman like Soldo in our side.
Granted he is young and developing but the facts as he isn't up to AFL standard. Not even close.
Nothing against the kid but finals sides don't have players that can barely kick or handball the footy.
I'd rather go into games with Nank as out number 1 ruckman and bring someone in to give him an occasional chop out.
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Umpiring only becomes a factor if you let it.
Rubbish it does >:(
Seriously, I am getting over how people want to blame the umpires. It makes us all look like sore losers
The umpiring is poor, get over it.
We should have been further in front at qtr time. We fell asleep at the end of the 1st qtr and coughed up a lead in the 2nd that we couldn't claw back.
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Just driving back now. First time and last ever trip to Geelong.
We deserve 4 points for being made to visit that absolute dump.
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Frustrating game. Yeah the umpiring stank and was all over the poo as usual but they murdered us in the air and with clean kicking. We kept hand passing ourselves to death early on Rance looked like he was crook he had such a dirty game. He doesn't have them often. I wrote this one off in my head when I saw it was at the litter box anyway. Next time.
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The realty is, on our day we can match it with anyone.
Never know what to expect each week.
I'd also suggest we don't have the cattle to go all the way. Need a hard contest player, maybe miles or graham or Townsend. And a solid chf.
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Teams with good marking taller players will keep ripping us apart imo
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Think Broad was a bit crap today. I think we missed a good tough in and under sort that never gives up, is quick and does not stop, maybe Miles coulda filled that post.
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Poor disposal gets found out in games like this.
I would ideally have had Short in instead of Houli. Markov in instead of Broad and Miles in instead of Corey Ellis. The latter for contested ball.
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Well set shot kicking needs to improve and I didnt like Jack smiling when he missed late in the game. I love Jack but we need to focus and make every set shot count. Houli was very poor today and it again highlighted he is not a player that can handle big games. McIntosh needs a tackle coach as it lets him and the team down. Butler and George very poor and we need another tall who can play relief ruck. I like Soldo but he cant continue this year. peeed we didn't beat this mob as i hate them :banghead Rance should have been moved so much earlier as Astbury is our best one on one defender and Rance should never play that deep again. Prestia and Cotchin were great :clapping How Dusty didn't recieve more free kicks is staggering...was being held so often even before he gathered the ball. Again...Houli should be dropped for Short IMO.
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And Lambert and Grimes :clapping
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Usual shyte from the usual suspects when confronted with good side that turns up the heat ...the terrified Twins Houli, Beliis & Nowhere man Grigg, (we seriously can't keep carrying all of these clowns into finals) Halfstep comatose in the box again......kicking out from defence was comical, if wasn't to an outnumber or a wrong option it was either too long or too short...
..oh McIntosh picked a fine time to go back to his peeweak tackling of the previous two years....certainly wasn't alonein that regard but for a man of his size,strength & pace it's inexcusable...
Geelong always have our measure. they're too smart ., too tall, and too tough, exposed & punished our poor skill level and forced us to play on their terms...., frankly Halfstep is kissed on the idiot because if every other team woke up and realised the more more you pressure us the worse we'll play we'd have a top 4 draft pick sewn up & Caracella would making himself comfortable in the big chair....and planning on what to do with North's first pick and Mason Wood....... :shh
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Did anyone else think vlastuin had a great game
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Did anyone else think vlastuin had a great game
Yes
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Yes and no.
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Did anyone else think vlastuin had a great game
He was good in the second half
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Not good enough, thats the fact Jack
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Guthrie showed why I was hoping against hope that Geelong would put him on the table when they were after Deledio last year... :shh
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Guthrie showed why I was hoping against hope that Geelong would put him on the table when they were after Deledio last year... :shh
Some bright spark on here said he was a soft dud a couple of weeks ago.
Can anyone remember who that was?
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I had to laugh at one stage today when I think it was Houli handballed it to BEllis. Both couldn't get rid of it quick enough with the thought of actually having to take a tackle for the team. It was like watching girls beach volleyball.
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Did anyone else think vlastuin had a great game
Yes
Yes
First qtr was average but was close to our best after that
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Before today we were talking about being a top 2 side but realistically how can we be with a ruckman like Soldo in our side.
Granted he is young and developing but the facts as he isn't up to AFL standard. Not even close.
Nothing against the kid but finals sides don't have players that can barely kick or handball the footy.
I'd rather go into games with Nank as out number 1 ruckman and bring someone in to give him an occasional chop out.
Totally agrre with you here.
The kid has improved enormously since he was rookied but....
Today i reckon his lack footy nous cost us 4 goals.
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Houli & BEllis in the backline:
(http://www.cartoon-clipart.co/amp/images/shaggy-scooby-doo4.png)
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Did anyone else think vlastuin had a great game
Yes
Yes
First qtr was average but was close to our best after that
Yep along with Grimes probably our best today.
Lambert and Prestia were also good, Dusty and Cotch were down by their standards but still solid, BEllis didn't stop trying, cupboard gets pretty bare after that.
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Yeah BEllis was trying alright......very trying....
Martin was still the most dangerous player on the ground despite Geelong swarming him at every opportunity....
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Yeah BEllis was trying alright......very trying....
Martin was still the most dangerous player on the ground despite Geelong swarming him at every opportunity....
I actually think he was alright
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Yeah BEllis was trying alright......very trying....
Martin was still the most dangerous player on the ground despite Geelong swarming him at every opportunity....
I actually think he was alright
Me too
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Missing set shots in the last also cost us big time
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I was really disappointed with Butler and Castagna today, they were timid and didn't tackle and hunt the opposition when we needed them to, they fumbled when we needed them to be clean! Butlers effort on the Geelong side in the last quarter cost us a goal and got them going. Jack lobbed a pass to him and instead of running to mark it, he let it bounce in the hope he could collect and turn his man inside out and run off, instead it bounced sideways, his man got it and the rest is history. They're both only very average footballers that happen to have pace, just do the basics right first and then worry about the flare!
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What was up with Butler? Saw him two or three times stop to wait for the ball to bounce to him rather than attack it. Each time either he or the ball was picked off.
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What was up with Butler? Saw him two or three times stop to wait for the ball to bounce to him rather than attack it. Each time either he or the ball was picked off.
Seemed to get in his head after he got cleaned up, was definitely hesitant after that
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What was up with Butler? Saw him two or three times stop to wait for the ball to bounce to him rather than attack it. Each time either he or the ball was picked off.
Seemed to get in his head after he got cleaned up, was definitely hesitant after that
Yep was a pretty strong hit he took.
Makes you wonder if it was some sort delayed reaction to the hit.
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Forgot about that hit. Was a decent one too, I thought he was out cold.
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Miles would of been handy yesterday.
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Frees 6-19 :banghead
How is that not a stat worth mentioning during the commentary?
When it was 14-4 Eddie mcGuire said
"And the umpires are umpiring bee-utifully here today"
Just watched the replay
Eddie actually said "the crowd is umpiring beautifually today"
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Just watched the replay
Why?
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Team selection was wrong. Miles should have been retained. We were comprehensively beaten in contested possession. I believe we went in too tall. Hardwick was outcoached. Unlike Hardwick I believe the dimensions of the ground did not suit our game style.
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Team selection was wrong. Miles should have been retained. We were comprehensively beaten in contested possession. I believe we went in too tall. Hardwick was outcoached. Unlike Hardwick I believe the dimensions of the ground did not suit our game style.
Too tall? We were tiny out there. If soldo had an impact around the ground we would have loooed a lot better.
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We got outmarked soooooooo many times yesterday
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Team selection was wrong. Miles should have been retained. We were comprehensively beaten in contested possession. I believe we went in too tall. Hardwick was outcoached. Unlike Hardwick I believe the dimensions of the ground did not suit our game style.
Yep.
With one big lumbering tall forward, Astbury should have gone to Harry Taylor. Rance should have zoned off Stanley. Astbury matches up much better on Taylor. No shame in that. Also the ball was entering their forward line without pressure as they had more run through the midfield. Winning the contested ball allowed them to spread and we couldn't keep up. Having Miles would not have allowed the ball to come out was easily and as often.
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I watched it too, the commentators, including Eddy brought up how we were getting stiffed a few times, no point worrying about it, the AFL won't give a steamy loaf and wave everyone on, nothing to see here.
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Team selection was wrong. Miles should have been retained. We were comprehensively beaten in contested possession. I believe we went in too tall. Hardwick was outcoached. Unlike Hardwick I believe the dimensions of the ground did not suit our game style.
Agree with the dimensions comment. Not enough room for the smalls to run into open space like the G. Cats defend that ground so good so a taller forward set up was my thoughts as we needed to go with them in the air.
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Richmond didn’t handle the pressure
By SEN
14 August 2017
Chief Football Writer of the Herald Sun, Mark Robinson, believes Richmond didn’t handle the pressure in their loss to Geelong on the weekend.
The Tigers lost by 14-points to the Cats, in a game where Geelong was missing linchpins Joel Selwood, Tom Hawkins and Mitch Duncan. Richmond used the footy at just 66 percent efficiency; something Robinson thinks is becoming a constant theme.
“What we saw on Saturday was sloppy ball use,” he said on SEN Afternoons.
“Richmond didn’t handle the pressure. Their ball use in the fourth quarter, and in the last month, has been really sloppy. Most scores come from turnover. On the weekend, Richmond’s turnovers just gifted the Cats so many scores.
“They couldn’t move the ball.”
However, Robinson did acknowledge Damien Hardwick’s men showed good hunger at the coalface, as the Tigers recorded 84 tackles, well above their season average of 68.5.
“Richmond’s pressure was really good, very high,” he said.
“The will was there, but the skill wasn’t. If you bring that skill again, you wont go deep in September.
“Their pressure was really good; they weren’t scared of Geelong or the venue. That was really strong, but the next element is, when we have the ball, what are we going to do with it? It didn’t happen.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/08/14/robbo-richmond-didn-t-handle-the-pressure/
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Team selection was wrong. Miles should have been retained. We were comprehensively beaten in contested possession. I believe we went in too tall. Hardwick was outcoached. Unlike Hardwick I believe the dimensions of the ground did not suit our game style.
Agree with the dimensions comment. Not enough room for the smalls to run into open space like the G. Cats defend that ground so good so a taller forward set up was my thoughts as we needed to go with them in the air.
Wont be getting that space at subi either. the dimensions are almost the same as simonds.
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Yet our recent record at Subi is quite good . Won past 2 against Freo at that venue .
Got nothing to do with dimensions, Geelong own us at the moment. Psychological.
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Coaches votes (Hardwick & C.Scott)
GEELONG v RICHMOND
10 Harry Taylor (Geel)
5 Patrick Dangerfield (Geel)
4 Cameron Guthrie (Geel)
4 Jed Bews (Geel)
3 Dion Prestia (Rich)
3 Nick Vlastuin (Rich)
1 Tom Stewart (Geel)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-14/aflca-votes-round-21-cat-claws-back-lead
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I thought most people thought Cotchin had a great game
I recall being criticised for emphasising how poor our three leaders were and that the general consensus was that he'd had a good game.
I'm glad both coaches agreed more with me than the majority on OER. :clapping
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Yeah was in Richmond's bottom 20 players according to the coaches......obviously had a shocker....
...but good to see that you value Halfstep's opinion when it suits your agenda.... :shh
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Yeah was in Richmond's bottom 20 players according to the coaches......obviously had a shocker....
...but good to see that you value Halfstep's opinion when it suits your agenda.... :shh
I was thinking more about the good coaches opinion. :whistle
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Yeah was in Richmond's bottom 20 players according to the coaches......obviously had a shocker....
...but good to see that you value Halfstep's opinion when it suits your agenda.... :shh
I was thinking more about the good coaches opinion. :whistle
Bottom 37 for the game. He was absolutely poo house. Outstanding call :clapping