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Tigers land first Academy selection
richmondfc.com.au
27 November 2017
Richmond has secured its first Next Generation Academy Program selection, drafting Mildura product Derek Eggmolesse-Smith as a Category B rookie.
Eggmolesse-Smith, 19, came to the Club’s attention in 2014 when he commenced Phase 1 of the Korin Gamadji Institute’s Richmond Emerging Aboriginal Leadership (REAL) Program.
The former Bendigo Pioneer and Wentworth District footballer is also a product of the highly successful Laguntas program, which has seen nine participants drafted to AFL clubs since its inception in 2012.
An exciting and quick defender, Eggmolesse-Smith then joined the Tigers Next Generation Academy Program, following its launch in 2016.
He trained with the VFL Tigers this year and played five matches for Craig McRae’s side.
Richmond’s general manager – football talent Dan Richardson officially welcomed Eggmolesse-Smith to the Club following today’s 2018 Rookie Draft.
“We have invested significantly in our Academy zone and Derek’s selection is a credit to our club and its centre for Indigenous youth, the Korin Gamadji Institute,” Richardson said.
“Derek is a talented Indigenous footballer who has gone from strength to strength since he became engaged in our NGA and VFL programs.
“This reinforces that our Academy provides a genuine pathway for Indigenous and multicultural boys and girls to play elite football.”
Richmond’s NGA further builds on the connection the Korin Gamadji Institute (KGI) has created with regional Victorian Aboriginal communities.
Richmond’s NGAP region includes AFL Central Vic, Central Murray, Goulburn Murray, North East Border and Sunraysia– the Murray Bushrangers and Bendigo Pioneers catchments.
The Program, in conjunction with the above partners, introduces the game of Australian Rules to both boys and girls, aged 5-18 years, who are from Indigenous and multicultural backgrounds. It aims to create a culturally affirming environment in order for them to thrive in the talent pathway.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-11-27/tigers-land-first-academy-selection
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Why is he cat B?
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Why is he cat B?
CLUBS will be able to select overlooked indigenous and multicultural prospects at this year's NAB AFL Draft as category B rookies as the AFL looks to stuff its next generation academy program.
The AFL informed clubs last week it had broadened its academy rules to allow them to select players under the new system this year in a bid to "achieve the outcome of greater diversity" on lists.
Under the revised rules, clubs will be able to apply for 2016 draft-eligible players to qualify as talent concessions under the next generation academy rules.
If the AFL decides that the player meets the qualifications under the indigenous or multicultural eligibility, the club will be able to list the player as a category B rookie, but only if the player is not selected in the national or rookie drafts.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-27/academy-rules-tweaked-to-give-overlooked-talent-another-chance
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Why is he cat B?
Because he’s from our academy.
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Oh they've changed the rules. They used to be from non AFL backgrounds.
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He goes very nicely from the vids I have seen, tackles really well too.
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The Eggman!
Goo goo ga joob! ;D
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DES at training ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQbpA81UQAAkHQs.jpg)
https://twitter.com/CameronEGrimes/status/938693790361051136
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Mildura product Derek Eggmolesse-Smith, who came through the club's Next Generation Academy Program, has been retained for a second season as a category B rookie.
Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-13/flag-hero-townsend-likely-to-remain-a-tiger-after-swans-cool-interest)
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Goo goo g'joob
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Good luck to him. Hopes he has a long career at the club.
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Talented half-back flanker Derek Eggmolesse-Smith will make his senior debut for Richmond in Saturday afternoon’s match against Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium.
Eggmolesse-Smith, 180cm and 80kg, was the first player drafted under Richmond’s Next Generation Academy program when he was selected in the 2018 Rookie Draft.
The 21-year-old has been promoted to the senior side following impressive recent VFL form, where he is averaging 19 disposals per game.
A Mildura product, the zippy defender’s pinpoint left-foot kick is one of his biggest strengths.
Recently retired premiership Tiger Shaun Grigg spoke highly of Eggmolesse-Smith’s progress in a recent edition of Talking Tigers, praising his work ethic and professionalism.
“He’s been super again this year,” Grigg said.
“He backs himself in, takes them on, and the defensive side of his game is good.”
Eggmolesse-Smith has been promoted from Richmond's Category B Rookie List to the Primary List as a replacement for Alex Rance, with Rance placed on the Long Term Injury List.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-07-04/round-16-team-announcement
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Don't think he's ever played forward in the VFL so you'd think they'll be shifting Edwards or maybe even Short forward.... :shh
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Don't think he's ever played forward in the VFL so you'd think they'll be shifting Edwards or maybe even Short forward.... :shh
Floss into the midfield would allow Eggy to play in defence.
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Don't think he's ever played forward in the VFL so you'd think they'll be shifting Edwards or maybe even Short forward.... :shh
Floss into the midfield would allow Eggy to play in defence.
I’d say Edwards up fwd/mid
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Vlastuin isn't a mids ass. Definitely Shedda
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Obviously Stack will play forward but so will Vlastuin.
Bolton will play some time in the midfield so will Edwards and they’ll swing Stack in their too for a look.
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Vlastuin isn't a mids ass. Definitely Shedda
Floss can play midfield! The boy knows how to win the contest! He is better HB being our Luke hodge though
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Barrett's footy knowledge on full display once again :lol.
IF ... I tried to make out I knew something about the Tigers' inclusion for Saturday's Gold Coast game ...
THEN ... I'd be lying. Had never heard of Derek Eggmolesse-Smith. But on the back of some quick research, love his back story, and hope he kicks three.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-05/sliding-doors-round-16
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Next Generation Academy Manager Todd Sigalas joined Andy Maher on SEN yesterday to discuss the latest Tiger.
AUDIO: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=393302
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Barrett's footy knowledge on full display once again :lol.
IF ... I tried to make out I knew something about the Tigers' inclusion for Saturday's Gold Coast game ...
THEN ... I'd be lying. Had never heard of Derek Eggmolesse-Smith. But on the back of some quick research, love his back story, and hope he kicks three.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-05/sliding-doors-round-16
:clapping That was nice of him
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC
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GO EGGY!!!!
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Looks better than Naish....considerably better.... :shh
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Like what I see - great kick and decision maker.
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Eggy's stats:
19 disposals (11k, 8h, 7c, 12u, 79% eff.)
2 marks
3 tackles
4 rebound 50s
1 clanger.
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The Eggman cometh
Derek Eggmolese-Smith’s debut at half-back for the Tigers was eye-catching. The Next Generation academy rookie collected 19 disposals and used the ball well, showing enough poise to be entrusted occasionally with kick-out duties. He’s worked and waited 18 months for his first game, and on this showing, he should play many more.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-bombard-woeful-suns-and-win-hefty-percentage-boost-20190706-p524s9.html)
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Cool and calm chooses and nails targets :clapping
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Was solid. :clapping
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Has peaked
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Hardwick praised the debut performance of Next Generation Academy product Derek Eggmolesse-Smith, who finished with 19 disposals.
"We were really impressed with what he did today. He's a good ball user, wins his own ball really well and sees the game really well," he said.
"He's got a little way to go, had a couple of errors, but we're really pleased with what he put out there today and he'll certainly grow from that."
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-06/damien-hardwick-postmatch)
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Very impressive :clapping
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What I liked was he was calm, and clean and has a bit of a grimes style lope about him lol
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Lots of poise, good by foot and certainly put up a contest. I like what I see!
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What I liked was he was calm, and clean and has a bit of a grimes style lope about him lol
Didn’t crack under pressure, scrambled opposition forwards and worked well with his teammates - egg sandwiched between short and Bachar won’t smell too bad!
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Richmond development and VFL backline coach Ryan Ferguson provides an insight into the progress of Derek Eggmolesse-Smith following his impressive AFL debut.
His skilful AFL debut
“His poise with the football and bringing others into the game with those sharp hands…He’s clever with the ball…once he has his hands on it, he can really do some things. He’s got that step and he’s got that vision. One of his points of difference to others is that he’s got a strong defensive mindset but he can also win the ball and be creative with the ball, so he’s got those two elements of the game that we value.”
Full article: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-07-09/coaches-corner-derek-eggmolessesmith
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Eggy is 22 today :birthday.
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Creative half-back Derek Eggmolesse-Smith returns for his third senior outing, his most recent appearance being Round 17, 2019.
Speaking to Richmond Media last weekend, VFL and development coach Xavier Clarke spoke highly of Eggmolesse-Smith's impact in the reserves.
"He plays the system really well and he got a lot of the ball. The beauty of Derek is he can make things happen when he gets the ball. He's a very good attacking half-back for us," he said.
Source: RFC website (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/740472)
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Eggy won the TV on ch7 for best on ground. He had 23 disposals essentially playing Houli's role.
Dimma post-game said Eggy still has got a long way to go but is showing signs.
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Very smooth. I like him
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Developing really well. Might be automatic replacement for houli when bachar retires.
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His kicking is immense
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Awesome game. Gone past Short based on that effort
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Lethal lefty and has some pace about him. Has been playing this way for some 18 months at VFL level so not overly surprised :shh
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Surprised me, stepped nicely, didn’t think he would be as good , hopefully he keeps it going
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A high profile first round kid will get it instead this week but DES deserves a rising star nomination after his BOG effort.
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Can’t wait for Houli to come back and play the Eggy role.
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A high profile first round kid will get it instead this week but DES deserves a rising star nomination after his BOG effort.
Of course - Kevin Sheehan and Brad Johnson don't watch our games or nominate our kids - particularly indigenous ones. It took Shai and Syd about 10 weeks longer than it should have last year o get their nominations.
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Taking nothing away fro the Egg, it’s the easiest position on the ground to play, especially in our side. Imagine playing as a backman at AFL Level and basically not having to pick up a man- and then get the ball fed to you so you can rack up easy touches.
Then also having Grimes and Vlaustin next to you to cover any mistake you might make.
A slightly overweight 3 gamers played the roll as good as Houli can.
I think that speaks for itself.
I think we have half a dozen players on our list who could play this roll with their eyes closed.
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Taking nothing away fro the Egg, it’s the easiest position on the ground to play, especially in our side. Imagine playing as a backman at AFL Level and basically not having to pick up a man- and then get the ball fed to you so you can rack up easy touches.
Then also having Grimes and Vlaustin next to you to cover any mistake you might make.
A slightly overweight 3 gamers played the roll as good as Houli can.
I think that speaks for itself.
I think we have half a dozen players on our list who could play this roll with their eyes closed.
Doubt that - Egg was classy in the VFL all last year and looked ready for seniors. Not the only one to look ready at VFL level but definitely the only HBF among them
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Taking nothing away fro the Egg, it’s the easiest position on the ground to play, especially in our side. Imagine playing as a backman at AFL Level and basically not having to pick up a man- and then get the ball fed to you so you can rack up easy touches.
Then also having Grimes and Vlaustin next to you to cover any mistake you might make.
A slightly overweight 3 gamers played the roll as good as Houli can.
I think that speaks for itself.
I think we have half a dozen players on our list who could play this roll with their eyes closed.
Doubt that - Egg was classy in the VFL all last year and looked ready for seniors. Not the only one to look ready at VFL level but definitely the only HBF among them
Knighter, I think you missed my point... it was more about Houli’s roll over the past 3 years than The Egg himself.
And for the record I think the following could play that loose, rebounding defender
-Egg obviously
-Stack
-Baker
-Short
-Naish
-Edwards
-Markov
-Pickett
-hell even Rioli could do it
And that’s without even considering the new boys.
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One of the worst defenders I've ever seen and yes I know that he is a rebounder but playing in defense there is times when you have to go and he just doesnt, at least Bach and Short have a crack even if it leaves a fair bit to be desired.
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Barely seen a minute of footy this year but if my nephew is calling Houli & Short fearless heroes in comparison then ba geez....:shh
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Last two games have been terrible from a defensive point of view
What you been doing Unc if not watching footy?
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He is incredibly soft boiled is the egg man.
I like his attacking game though.
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Can’t you guys just show a bit of love?
DES is going ok IMVHO.
Do you want him to win the Brownlow in his first 3 games?
Dance was a superstar from his first game?
Sheesh it took Edwards about 3 years before he started to come good,
Just saying .....
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His got the skill set and kicking that's the hardest part his defence work can be worked on like most players in the game after handful of games work in progress.To many housewives here.
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Barely seen a minute of footy this year but if my nephew is calling Houli & Short fearless heroes in comparison then ba geez....:shh
Chucky would do well to remember Houli at the same age....and nobody is softer than Shortsteps........ :shh :shh
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If you watch the highlights of the match concentrating on the Footscray ones you will see twice the non contact defensive measures undertaken by the soft boiled one
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A couple of real average efforts last night defensively but Houli going back a couple of years ago was as bad.
To Houli’s credit he has improved in that area imo. - still far from being any good at it, but better.
So I think if Houli can improve, so can the Eggman.
What he does with the footy gets him some time to work on it imo.
I know Dimma will think differently but I think we are going backwards if we go back to playing Houli defensively.
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I like Egg , but even Houli was never that soft and Dio's whipping boy definitely isn't.
Egg will need to improve significantly in this area if he wants to be a long-term player IMO.
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Instructing him on making contact would be the first step I would think
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"He's probably the perfect replacement for Bachar" - Leppa on SEN.
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Bump. Welcome back DES.
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Skillful defender Derek Eggmolesse-Smith will return to Richmond’s list for the 2021 season, with the Club lodging paperwork to sign the 22-year-old today.
After being delisted by the Club in November, Eggmolesse-Smith was invited back in January as a train-on player as part of the AFL’s pre-season supplemental selection period, which ended today.
Eggmolesse-Smith, who worked with fitness and sprint coaches over the off-season, said that returning to the Club “stronger and fitter” helped his chances of earning a fresh contract.
“My main focus has been endurance; all the coaches know I have got my speed and pace, but just building that fitness base and getting stronger in the gym has helped me heaps,” he said.
“Having a spot on the list for 2021 is very special, especially (after) last year and going through a lot with the hub and Covid and knowing that I was out of contract.
“Richmond gave me a chance to work hard and get another contract, and I am hoping that this year will be better than the one before."
Eggmolesse-Smith played a part in last Friday night’s AAMI Community Series win over Collingwood, gathering eight disposals from 31 percent game time.
"It was a waiting game for me, but I was excited to get the call-up, and I had a lot of fun. I can't wait for many more games in 2021,” he said.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/876440/
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Disappointing. Wanted Green.
Work hard DES.
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Wouldn’t be Easter without the Egg 🐣
The Tigers have selected running defender Derek Eggmolesse-Smith for his first game at senior level since Round 8 last year.
It is a feel-good story for the former Next Generation Academy product who played six AFL games in 2020 before being delisted by the Club in November.
Eggmolesse-Smith, who was then re-signed by Richmond last month, admitted he needed to return “stronger and fitter” to win back his spot in the AFL’s pre-season supplemental selection period.
The 22-year-old has impressed in recent VFL practice matches, including a 19 disposal, four rebound 50s, and four tackle performance against Box Hill last week.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1377883601358888963
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How does a guy go from delist to best 22 in 6 weeks?
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How does a guy go from delist to best 22 in 6 weeks?
He is not
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Scared
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Not a defender and not an attacking accumulator. I don’t get the selection at all.
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Go Des Go! hope he has a good game and keeps his spot
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Is he out there?
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Maybe he was subbed off
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He is a VFL standard footballer. Thats all.
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He is an embarrassment
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Shortsteps was worse..... :shh
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How can a player be delisted, not considered to be in our best 42 or whatever it is, get re listed and all of sudden be in our best 22?
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How can a player be delisted, not considered to be in our best 42 or whatever it is, get re listed and all of sudden be in our best 22?
Good question.
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Purely for Instagram so we can have “Easter-egg” as a caption.
Sadly AFL is not for him. A classic case of too good for vfl but not AFL standard. Which blows because he has a bit of class about him but he’s not fast enough mentally to play AFL.
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If I'm Jack Ross I'm getting pretty peed off about now. Why he didn't play and Egg did has got me flummoxed
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"He's had to work hard (to get back into the 22). Got the talent to be an AFL player. No doubt about it. He's just got to figure out the work that has to go into being a consistent AFL player. The game is incredibly challenging. It challenges people both mentally and physically. Eggy has more skill than most people on this planet. He's just got to figure out how to use that skill. That's his greatest challenge. He can play the game. We've seen it before. It's the consistency that he needs to get better."
- Dimma speaking about DES post-game.
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I'm a bit Switzerland with Egg.
He has talent but talk is he is pretty lazy and that's backed up by the comments from Dimma that he just needs to consistently work hard.
My biggest issue is the selection. It was 32 degrees, why are we picking and extra defence who is known to be pretty lazy, who was delisted 6 months ago when we have someone like Ross who continues to have bad luck with selection and being a sub.
We also have RCD who hasn't debuted yet, Tom Dow another first rounder. We speak about depth yet this selection suggests our depth isnt better than a delisted player. Bit concerned with this.
Looking forward to bouncing back next week!
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RCD and Jack Ross will replace KMac, Meaty and possibly Cotch. The Egg isn’t of AFL standard but Olly Markov is a different story.
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Wonder if we'll see Mansell this year? :shh
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Wonder if we'll see Mansell this year? :shh
Mansell?
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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/863877/rhyan-mansell-becomes-a-tiger
:shh
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If I'm Jack Ross I'm getting pretty peed off about now. Why he didn't play and Egg did has got me flummoxed
Yep me too. they cant keep on picking favorites, the side is ageing it was over 27 yrs on average last yr some of the favorites are going to have to accept demotion.
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"He's had to work hard (to get back into the 22). Got the talent to be an AFL player. No doubt about it. He's just got to figure out the work that has to go into being a consistent AFL player. The game is incredibly challenging. It challenges people both mentally and physically. Eggy has more skill than most people on this planet. He's just got to figure out how to use that skill. That's his greatest challenge. He can play the game. We've seen it before. It's the consistency that he needs to get better."
- Dimma speaking about DES post-game.
I think it’s a mental fortitude thing. Take menadue for example. Absolute lightning quick and really should be taking people on like Saad but he didn’t back his pace nearly enough. Lennon was meant to be the best kick in his group and should have been slicing oppositions open with his elite kicking like Mitchell but that didn’t eventuate either. And I’m sure I don’t need to harp on about chol’s athleticism vs actual game outcomes. Sometimes the talent doesn’t make it to AFL. It’ takes a lot above the shoulders to execute at AFL level
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LMAO
Elite kicking like Mitchell
FFS, do people watch the game .. he’s the modern era Scott West .. let him get 50 possessions, coz he won’t hurt you
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Pretty sure he was talking about Sam Mitchell
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Wonder if we'll see Mansell this year? :shh
Yes we will.... :shh :shh
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Eggy has been delisted according to the HeraldSun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-news-2021-follow-the-latest-player-movement-information-about-your-club/news-story/4a783b98d849c451c2c906bd03178c63).
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Eggy has been delisted according to the HeraldSun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-news-2021-follow-the-latest-player-movement-information-about-your-club/news-story/4a783b98d849c451c2c906bd03178c63).
Right call if correct.
TBBH not sure why he was bought back in 2021
Would have been a better decision to give that final spot to someone new this season.
They knew what Derek bought (or more to the point didn't bring) to the table, so the redrafting made little sense to me.
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Eggy has been delisted according to the HeraldSun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-news-2021-follow-the-latest-player-movement-information-about-your-club/news-story/4a783b98d849c451c2c906bd03178c63).
Right call if correct.
TBBH not sure why he was bought back in 2021
Would have been a better decision to give that final spot to someone new this season.
They knew what Derek bought (or more to the point didn't bring) to the table, so the redrafting made little sense to me.
Green for example.
Really poor call by the club last time.
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Delisted Richmond left-footer Derek Eggmolesse-Smith is on his way to Collingwood.
The 23-year-old has agreed to play with the Magpies’ VFL team next year.
He figured in the 2019 VFL premiership won under the coaching of new Collingwood senior coach Craig McRae.
https://www.reddit.com/r/collingwoodfc/comments/qi6u58/vfl_recruiting_derek_eggmolessesmith_links_with/