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Title: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on May 14, 2007, 05:07:57 AM
NAB AFL Under 18 National Championships - Victorian Squads Announced

The state’s most promising junior footballers have begun their preperation for the NAB AFL Under 18 National Championships later this year.

The championships play an important role in uncovering AFL players of the future and talented players from country and metropolitan Victoria can stake their claims for a place in the two teams during trial matches to be held at Victoria Park.

AFL talent scouts will be out in force to uncover the next Marc Murphy or Dale Thomas when the country’s best junior players showcase their skills at the National Championships.

Former Calder Cannons coach Robert Hyde will coach the Country team and Carlton Premiership player David Dickson is in charge of the Metro side.

Vic Metro

Ashley  Arrowsmith  Calder Cannons 
Nicholas  Cattapan  Calder Cannons 
Darcy  Daniher  Calder Cannons 
Travis  Dulic  Calder Cannons 
Thomas  Duyndam  Calder Cannons 
Mitchell  Farmer  Calder Cannons 
Dylan  Joyce  Calder Cannons 
Jeremy  Laidler  Calder Cannons 
Addam  Maric  Calder Cannons 
James  Polkinghorne  Calder Cannons 
Dean  Putt  Calder Cannons 
Phil  Smith  Calder Cannons 
Jackson  Trengove  Calder Cannons 

Russell  Gabriel  Dandenong Stingrays 
Steven  Gaertner  Dandenong Stingrays 
Jarrod  Grant  Dandenong Stingrays 
John  McCarthy  Dandenong Stingrays 
Luke  Potts  Dandenong Stingrays 
Scott  Simpson  Dandenong Stingrays 
Ashley  Smith  Dandenong Stingrays 
Marc  Westcott  Dandenong Stingrays 

Michael  Dell Aquilla  Eastern Ranges 
Matthew  Lobbe  Eastern Ranges 
Daniel  Noy  Eastern Ranges 
Andrew  Renton  Eastern Ranges 
Dale  Walker  Eastern Ranges 
Trent  Zomer  Eastern Ranges 

Tim  Bongetti  Northern Knights 
Trent  Cotchin  Northern Knights 
Jack  Grimes  Northern Knights 
Michael  Hurley  Northern Knights 
Matt  Kreuzer  Northern Knights 
Brett  Meredith  Northern Knights 
Jake  Spiteri  Northern Knights 
Luke  Stanton  Northern Knights 
Adrian  Totino  Northern Knights 
Pat  Veszpremi  Northern Knights 
David  Zaharakis  Northern Knights 

Billy  Burstin  Oakleigh Chargers 
Harry  Croft  Oakleigh Chargers 
Will  De Bruin  Oakleigh Chargers 
Lachlan  Hill  Oakleigh Chargers 
Chris  Hoegel  Oakleigh Chargers 
Patrick  McCarthy  Oakleigh Chargers 
Andrew  Otten  Oakleigh Chargers 
Hugh  Sandilands  Oakleigh Chargers 
James  Strauss  Oakleigh Chargers 

Myke  Cook  Sandringham Dragons 
Thomas  Lynch  Sandringham Dragons 
Zach  Sengstock  Sandringham Dragons 
Matthew  Suckling  Sandringham Dragons 
Tyrone  Vickery  Sandringham Dragons 

Nathan  Black  Western Jets 
Nicholas  Di Martino  Western Jets 
Rhyce  Prismall  Western Jets 
William  Sullivan  Western Jets 
Callan  Ward  Western Jets 

Vic Country

Jayden  Donaldson  Bendigo Pioneers 
Grant  Ford  Bendigo Pioneers 
Josh  Gaylor  Bendigo Pioneers 
Rhys  Healey  Bendigo Pioneers 
Torin  Petrie  Bendigo Pioneers 
Scott  Selwood  Bendigo Pioneers 
Robert  Tarrant  Bendigo Pioneers 
Rex  Taylor  Bendigo Pioneers 
Toby  Thoolan  Bendigo Pioneers 

Justin  Baxter  Geelong Falcons 
Edward  Curnow  Geelong Falcons 
Patrick  Dangerfield  Geelong Falcons 
Adam  Donohue  Geelong Falcons 
Lachlan  Henderson  Geelong Falcons 
Jordan  Jones  Geelong Falcons 
Chris  Kangars  Geelong Falcons 
Chris  Lynch  Geelong Falcons 
Nik  Orvis  Geelong Falcons 
Kane  Smith  Geelong Falcons 
Jack  Steven  Geelong Falcons 

James  Blaser  Gippsland Power 
James  Bristow  Gippsland Power 
Brent  Connelly  Gippsland Power 
Tristan  Francis  Gippsland Power 
Jackson  Hall  Gippsland Power 
Nicholas  Heyne  Gippsland Power 
Haelen  Kay  Gippsland Power 
Dan  McKenna  Gippsland Power 
Robert  Michaelides  Gippsland Power 
Darren  White  Gippsland Power 

Dashmir  Barolli  Murray Bushrangers 
Ashley  Hockey  Murray Bushrangers 
Ben  McEvoy  Murray Bushrangers 
Ryan  Normington  Murray Bushrangers 
Dawson  Simpson  Murray Bushrangers 
Michael  Thompson  Murray Bushrangers 

Matt  Austin  North Ballarat Rebels 
Kyle  Cheney  North Ballarat Rebels 
Clayton  Hinkley  North Ballarat Rebels 
Ryan  Hobbs  North Ballarat Rebels 
Nick  Suban  North Ballarat Rebels

http://taccup.footballvic.com.au/default.aspx?s=genericnewsdisplay&kw=57&aid=119764
Title: Vic Metro v Vic Country trial match - Sun June 10
Post by: one-eyed on June 09, 2007, 04:08:56 PM
http://taccup.footballvic.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=121828

Vic Metro and Vic Country will play a trial match tomorrow before selectors finalise squads for the Championships.

Under 18

Sunday 10th June
Victoria Park
Vic Metro vs. Vic Country
Commencing at 10.00am

Squads:
http://taccup.footballvic.com.au/_content/document/00053910-src.tif (http://taccup.footballvic.com.au/_content/document/00053910-src.tif)
Title: Re: Vic Metro v Vic Country trial match - Sun June 10
Post by: mightytiges on June 09, 2007, 04:50:06 PM
Squads:
http://taccup.footballvic.com.au/_content/document/00053910-src.tif (http://taccup.footballvic.com.au/_content/document/00053910-src.tif)
It says Matt Kreuzer is injured. Anyone know what's wrong with him?

I'm still nervous about taking a ruckman with our first pick even though he's a good size 199cm and 91kg at 18 years of age. 

Trent Cotchin looks a good sized ready-made midfielder at 184cm and 81kg.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on June 09, 2007, 08:43:11 PM
At this stage I'm leaning more towards snaring Cotchin, or even Grimes and looking at Bellchambers or McEvoy with our 2nd round pick and most likely priority pick
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on June 09, 2007, 09:16:30 PM
At this stage I'm leaning more towards snaring Cotchin, or even Grimes and looking at Bellchambers or McEvoy with our 2nd round pick and most likely priority pick
Shows the importance of us getting that priority pick. No point winning some meaningless games late in the year and stuffing up our draft options and future.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on June 09, 2007, 10:07:10 PM
Whats wrong with Kreuzer?
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on June 09, 2007, 10:17:28 PM
Whats wrong with Kreuzer?

Nothing, just cautious of taking ruckman with early picks.

Also considering that there are excellent ruck options in the 15-30 range, it would be smarter IMO to take a class inside mid.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on June 09, 2007, 10:54:05 PM
I was referring to the claims of an injury lol.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on June 10, 2007, 04:05:01 PM
Whats wrong with Kreuzer?
There was no mention of any injury to him in last weekend's TAC Cup game  ???
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on June 10, 2007, 04:27:34 PM
I was referring to the claims of an injury lol.

Oops lol
Title: U18 Championships 2007 - Vic Metro and Vic Country Squads named
Post by: one-eyed on June 16, 2007, 05:13:53 AM
2007 NAB AFL Under 18 Championships - Vic Metro and Vic Country Squads

Vic Metro

Will DE BRUIN  Oakleigh 
Patrick VESZPREMI  Northern 
Matthew KREUZER  Northern 
Jeremy LAIDLER  Calder 
Tom LYNCH  Sandringham 
Addam MARIC  Calder 
James POLKINGHORNE  Calder 
Michael HURLEY  Northern 
Dean PUTT  Calder 
Rhyce PRISMALL  Western 
Dylan JOYCE  Calder 
Mitchell FARMER  Calder 
Harry CROFT  Oakleigh 
Scott SIMPSON  Dandenong 
Brad JONES  Eastern 
Jack GRIMES  Northern 
Jackson TRENGOVE  Calder 
Andrew OTTEN  Oakleigh 
Jarrad GRANT  Dandenong 
Luke POTTS  Dandenong 
Will SULLIVAN  Western 
Steven GAERTNER  Dandenong 
Hugh SANDILANDS  Oakleigh 
Callan WARD  Western 
Trent COTCHIN  Northern 
Lachlan HILL  Oakleigh 
Ashley ARROWSMITH  Calder 
Brett MEREDITH  Northern 
Darcy DANIHER  Calder 
Matthew LOBBE  Eastern 

Vic Country

Nick SUBAN  North Ballarat 
James BLASER  Gippsland 
Kane SMITH  Geelong 
Ashley HOCKEY  Murray 
Guy O’KEEFE  Geelong 
Jack STEVEN  Geelong 
Grant FORD  Bendigo 
Robert MICHAELIDES  Gippsland 
Rex TAYLOR  Bendigo 
Edward CURNOW  Geelong 
Josh GAYLOR  Bendigo 
Jayden DONALDSON  Bendigo 
Toby THOOLAN  Bendigo 
Patrick DANGERFIELD  Geelong 
Dan MCKENNA  Gippsland 
Chris KANGARS  Geelong 
Scott SELWOOD  Bendigo 
Jackson HALL  Gippsland 
Nicholas HEYNE  Gippsland 
Ryan HOBBS  North Ballarat 
Clayton HINKLEY  North Ballarat 
Haelen KAY  Gippsland 
Ryan NORMINGTON  Murray 
Matt AUSTIN  North Ballarat 
Grant BELL  North Ballarat 
Brent CONNELLY  Gippsland 
Ben MCEVOY  Murray 
Robert TARRANT  Bendigo 
Dawson SIMPSON  Murray 
Lachlan HENDERSON  Geelong 

http://taccup.footballvic.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=122235
Title: U18 National Championships 2007 schedule
Post by: one-eyed on June 16, 2007, 05:16:43 AM
Schedule - Division 1 Matches

Saturday 30th June - Match 1

Western Australia vs. Vic Metro
11.15am at Subiaco

Sunday 1st July - Match 2

South Australia vs. Vic Country
4.10pm at AAMI Stadium

Friday 6th July

Winner Match 1 vs. Loser Match 2
11.00am at Skilled Stadium

Winner Match 2 vs. Loser Match 1
1.30pm at Skilled Stadium

Wednesday 11th July

Loser Match 1 vs. Loser Match 2
11.00am at MC Labour Park

Winner Match 1 vs. Winner Match 2
1.30pm at MC Labour Park

http://taccup.footballvic.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=122235
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on June 16, 2007, 03:30:38 PM
Wow, 17 of the Vic Metro are from Calder or Northern  :o
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on June 16, 2007, 03:32:55 PM
Keen to check out Kreuzer, Grimes, Cotchin, McEvoy and Henderson

But I though Henderson was still carrying an injury, leg I believe
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on June 16, 2007, 11:29:26 PM
Same here bluey. I think the squads still need to be further reduced down to a final 25. Only 3 guys from the Western Jets despite them being 7-2.
Title: U18 National Championships 2007 - WA's final squad of 25 named
Post by: one-eyed on June 21, 2007, 04:09:30 AM
WA U18s final 25-man squad:

There are four players in the squad who are backing up from last year's 18s carnival, with Chris Masten, Rhys Palmer, Luke Sampey and Steven Browne adding invaluable championship experience to this year's team.

Five players in this year's squad -- Masten, Palmer (both East Fremantle), Matthew Breen (Peel) and Alex Rance and David Ellard (both Swan Districts) - have all played league football this year.

Also, five of the eight AFL AIS academy members from the latest induction (Chris Yarran, Cale Morton, Daniel Rich, Nicholas Naitanui and Tony Notte) also made the squad.
 
Claremont -- Simon Starling, Cale Morton, Matthew DeBoer, Patrick McGinnity

East Fremantle -- Chris Masten, Rhys Palmer, James Venturini

East Perth -- Luke Sampey, Tayte Pears, Michael Dawes

Peel -- Matthew Breen

Perth -- David Myers, Justin Russell, Cruize Garlett

Subiaco -- Jarrhan Jacky, Daniel Rich, David Gourdis

West Perth -- Steven Browne, Mat Tedesco

Swan Districts -- David Ellard, Chris Yarran, Alex Rance, Luke Pratt, Tony Notte, Nicholas Naitanui

http://www.wafootball.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=559&Itemid=138
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on June 21, 2007, 09:45:35 PM
Luke Sampey, brother of Ashley?
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on June 21, 2007, 11:22:08 PM
Luke Sampey, brother of Ashley?
Ashley's surname is spelt differently - Sampi

Masten sounds as though he's No. 1 from WA at the moment.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on June 22, 2007, 03:59:16 PM
THE NAB AFL Under-18 Championships showcase the stars of tomorrow in Australian Football, and AFL Talent Manager Kevin Sheehan runs through some of the players most likely to catch the eye of spectators and clubs alike.

He compares Cotchin to Brent Stanton

Full descriptions at: http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=45822

Division one players:

Brad Ebert (South Australia)
Born: April 2, 1990
Height: 187cm
Weight: 86kg
From: Port Adelaide Magpies/Henley

Ben McEvoy (Vic Country)
Born: July 11, 1989
Height: 199cm
Weight: 90kg
From: Murray Bushrangers/Dederang-Mt Beauty

Trent Cotchin (Vic Metro)
Born: April 7, 1990
Height: 184cm
Weight: 81kg
From: Northern Knights/Penleigh and Essendon Grammar School

Chris Masten (Western Australia)
Born: May 2, 1989
Height: 179cm
Weight: 78kg
From: East Fremantle

Division two players:

Craig Bird (New South Wales/Australian Capital Territory)
Born: January 21, 1989
Height: 178cm
Weight: 76kg
From: Nelson Bay

Cyril Rioli (Northern Territory)
Born: July 14, 1989
Height: 178cm
Weight: 74kg
From: St Marys

Sam Reid (Queensland)
Born: November 7, 1989
Height: 185cm
Weight: 75kg
From: Zillmere

Tom Collier (Tasmania)
Born: March 25, 1989
Height: 192cm
Weight: 86kg
From: Lauderdale
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on June 23, 2007, 10:43:16 AM
Comparing Cotchin to Stanton is interesting.

IMHO Cotchin is more of a contested ball winner than Stanton. But in space they seem to have similar games
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on June 23, 2007, 10:44:39 AM
Collier has been killing it for Tassie as a KP Defender this year.

Could of been at Punt Rd but instead it was Kingsley who came  :banghead
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on June 23, 2007, 06:09:33 PM
Comparing Cotchin to Stanton is interesting.

IMHO Cotchin is more of a contested ball winner than Stanton. But in space they seem to have similar games
I like Stanton and would happily have someone like him at Punt Rd but in terms of what we really need I would hope for a similar ballwinner but with a touch more class and hurt factor with our first pick.
Title: Vics tipped to head draft (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on June 24, 2007, 03:29:23 AM
Vics tipped to head draft
24 June 2007   Sunday Herald Sun
Jackie Epstein

VICTORIA will be back as a breeding ground force at this year's national draft, according to Essendon recruiting manager Adrian Dodoro.

Dodoro is tipping a big return for Victorian hopefuls, after recent domination by Queensland, South Australia and Western Australia.

The under-18 championships start this weekend, with matches scheduled around the country for the first time.

"The Vics have got a pretty strong side and I think it'll be a Victorian draft this year," Dodoro said.

"The numbers will be back to Victoria in terms of percentage. Maybe 70 per cent will be Vics. You still have to look everywhere, but I think we'll see more boys drafted from this state."

Victoria has enjoyed success in recent times during the championships, with Vic Metro last year defeating Vic Country in the grand final.

Dodoro said it had been hard so far to get a form line on talent.

"There aren't as many obvious standouts as previous years," he said. "This time last year we were talking about 20-odd players, so I think we need the championships to sort them out a bit.

"I'm looking forward to seeing the WA boys, in particular. It's a big ground and a big advantage for them at Subiaco."

Last year 53 players selected in the national draft - and 18 in the rookie draft - competed in the under-18 championships.

There are already big wraps on Vic Metro's 199cm ruckman/forward Matthew Kreuzer, as well as his state teammates Trent Cotchin and Jack Grimes.

Darcy Daniher, son of Anthony, is eligible to be drafted by Essendon and Sydney under the father-son rule.

"He's a key back or forward, about 6ft 3 (190cm) and he's fairly athletic with some good attributes," Dodoro said.

The Vic Country side will field two famous names with Scott Selwood - brother of Joel, Troy and Adam - and Robbie Tarrant, brother of Chris.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21956515%255E19742,00.html
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on June 24, 2007, 11:34:48 AM
have the champs started already.

Read in the paper that Tassie played queensland in the first match.

Some kid called something Bowden was best on ground.

Any relation to our Bowdens
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: tigersalive on June 24, 2007, 11:53:45 AM
have the champs started already.

Read in the paper that Tassie played queensland in the first match.

Some kid called something Bowden was best on ground.

Any relation to our Bowdens

Yeah they've started.

Tassie won.

Good to see Grima in the best.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on June 24, 2007, 04:31:11 PM
Division 2 Results - Week 1

Tasmania    17.14 (116) 
Queensland 13.13 (91)

Goals:
TAS: Bowden 5, Cornelius 5, Joseph, Collier, Bellchambers, Mihocek, O'Garey, Murphy, Grima.
QLD: Stewart 5, Zorko 2, Savage, Rolfe, Davis, Enright, Mulligan, Jones.

Best:
TAS: Bowden, O'Brien, Bellchambers, Grima, Williams, Cornelius.
QLD: Gibson, Stewart, Headland, Whitecross, Daye.

Venue: SCG

=====================

NSW/ACT             20.11 (131)
Northern Territory 12.11 (83)

Goals:
NSW/ACT: Walker 5, McGregor 4, McIntyre 3, Colvin 2, Davis 2, Cleaver, Terlich, Drum, Davies.
NT: Rolfe 3, Oliver, Fittock, Stokes, C. Rioli, Motlop, Campbell, Farmer, Calma-Holt, Shannon Rioli.

Best:
NSW/ACT: McGregor, Bird, Wilson, Woods, Davis, Overs.
NT: Fittock, Oliver, Sharples, C Rioli, Snowdon, Stokes.

Venue: Telstra Stadium
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on June 24, 2007, 04:57:41 PM
have the champs started already.

Read in the paper that Tassie played queensland in the first match.

Some kid called something Bowden was best on ground.

Any relation to our Bowdens
Our Bowdens are from Alice Springs so I'm presuming he's not.

He has his own myspace though lol
http://www.myspace.com/bowden_32
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on June 25, 2007, 04:51:27 PM
From the Tassie vs Qld game

Jaye Bowden had 21 possies, 5 goals
Aaron Cornelius - 14 disposals, 7 marks, 5 goals
Aaron Joseph (34 touches) and Alex Grima (19 disposals).
Kevin Sheehan said Tom Collier (192cm) also had an outstanding performance game. His aggression at the ball and his dash from defence stood out back now in his own age group.

From the NSW vs NT game

Craig Bird (34 possessions – and a Sydney scholarship holder) and Loccy McGregor (30 touches and four goals) were outstanding for NSW/ACT. They continually won the centre clearances and capitalised on the impressive ruck work of Max Wilson (199cm, 18 hit-outs) and David Martin (203cm, 15 hit-outs). Medium forward Taylor Walker (an Adelaide scholarship holder) from Broken Hill continued his impressive goalkicking form for the Rams this year, booting five majors. His one-touch marking and accuracy around goal was a feature.

http://afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=45913
Title: U18 Champs - WA vs Vic Metro on Fox Sports One
Post by: one-eyed on June 25, 2007, 04:52:40 PM
Fox Sports One will televise the match between Western Australia and Vic Metro live from 11am (WST) and 1pm (EST) with highlights of all matches to be shown on afl.com.au throughout the championships.

http://afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=45913
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: evaluator on June 25, 2007, 05:30:21 PM
1.   Matt Kreuzer
17.     Tom Bellchambers
18.   Andy Otten
34.     Brad Jones
50.     Aaron Joseph
66.     Sam Staveniuter

PSD: Charman, Dowler, Maric, Meesan. In order.

Rookies: Hall, Nye. Zomer / Gazzo.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on June 25, 2007, 05:33:28 PM
At this stage I would like

1) Cotchin
17) McEvoy  :pray
18) Henderson  :pray
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on June 25, 2007, 11:46:30 PM
It would be great if McEvoy was still around at pick 17 but the wraps on him seem to be pushing him up the draft order by the week. Some early phantom drafts even have him at 5 or 6  :-\. Still it's early days with 5 months to go before draft day.

Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on June 26, 2007, 04:37:55 PM
Matt Burgan's top 10 from the Division 2 games on the weekend

1 – Loccy McGregor – NSW/ACT – 174cm, 72kg
One of the smaller players at this year's championships, McGregor played a blinder against the Thunder, booting four goals and claiming 30 touches. Busy and tenacious, McGregor also had 11 inside 50s, a great result for the little fella.

2 – Aaron Joseph – Tasmania – 178cm, 75kg
Very impressive, Joseph was the leading ball-winner in the match against Queensland, winning 34 disposals – including 22 kicks. His work-ethic was super, emphasised by his centre clearance work, while he pumped the ball inside 50 on 10 occasions.

3 – Craig Bird – NSW/ACT – 178cm, 75kg
He has already been listed as a Sydney scholarship holder.

4 – Jay Bowden – Tasmania – 184cm, 74kg
A midfielder/half-forward, Bowden shone with five goals against Queensland, enhancing his status as one of Tasmania's best prospects. He also finished with 21 disposals and six inside 50s.

5 – Tom Bellchambers – Tasmania – 199cm, 91kg
Standing at 199cm, Bellchambers was a telling figure against Queensland, clearly having the better of Scorpions' ruck duo David Hill and Jake Spencer. He won a whopping 33 disposals and was excellent in the centre hit outs. It was a most impressive display.

6 – Aaron Cornelius – Tasmania – 191cm, 80kg
Too young to be drafted this year

7 – Darin Stewart – Queensland – 191cm, 87kg
Stewart's performance against Tasmania could not be questioned after bagging five goals, which included an excellent goal tucked on a difficult angle in the pocket. His unusual kicking style certainly stands out and has raised some the eyebrows of recruiters.

8 – Trevor Oliver – Northern Territory – 181cm, 88kg
One of a handful of "overage" 19 year olds Territorians

9 – Patrick Fittock – Northern Territory – 185cm, 71kg
Like Oliver, Fittock is a 19-year-old

10 – Taylor Walker – NSW/ACT – 188cm, 81kg
tied to  Adelaide via the scholarship program

Full article at: http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=45978
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on June 26, 2007, 07:30:58 PM
5 – Tom Bellchambers – Tasmania – 199cm, 91kg
Standing at 199cm, Bellchambers was a telling figure against Queensland, clearly having the better of Scorpions' ruck duo David Hill and Jake Spencer. He won a whopping 33 disposals and was excellent in the centre hit outs. It was a most impressive display.

 :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: evaluator on June 27, 2007, 04:10:05 PM
I'm liking Henderson more and more.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on June 28, 2007, 03:38:09 AM
South Australia's final U18 squad of 25 was announced yesterday.

Central District: Dylan Jesson                                                     

Glenelg: Tom Holmes, Aaron Day

North Adelaide: Dean Christie (v.c), Zac Millar, Henry White, Matthew Wright, Kriston Thompson, James Wundke

Port Adelaide Magpies:  Brad Ebert (c), Levi Greenwood, Casey Carr, Tim Walsh, Rhys Clinton

South Adelaide:  Nick Murphy, Tom McNamara

Sturt:  Alex Kinal

West Adelaide: Hamish Hartlett, Tyson Slattery,  Scott Blesing

Woodville-West Torrens: Jared Petrenko, Sam Fairclough, Cody Hicks, Matthew Broadbent, Lee Staple

(http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5543635,00.jpg)
Brad Ebert - SA U18 captain

Ebert is one of five South Aussies – along with Zac Millar, Aaron Day, Sam Fairclough and Levi Greenwood – to have tasted league football in the SANFL.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,21976764-21544,00.html
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: tigersalive on June 28, 2007, 08:41:48 AM
Cant believe Collier wasnt included in that list.  He was very good by all reports except the bests in the AFL news reports.

SLIP COLLIER SLIP!    :pray    :clapping
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2007, 03:42:28 PM
WA pumped Vic Metro at Subiaco

15.16-106
8.10-58

Cale Morton (192cm, 75kg) apparently starred for WA according to SEN.

Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on June 30, 2007, 03:56:58 PM
WA pumped Vic Metro at Subiaco

15.16-106
8.10-58

Cale Morton (192cm, 75kg) apparently starred for WA according to SEN.



Certainly did. If we get a top 2 pick and we get either Kreuzer or Morton then its a win for us. Morton seems to be bigger than 75kgs...Id say hes around 80-81kgs at the moment. Hes going to be a great player.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on June 30, 2007, 04:54:09 PM
Morton is listed as 75 kg on the WA team list.

According to Kevin Sheehan

Kreuzer (199cm, 91kg) - lost no friends. 25 hitouts, 20 possies, pushed forward for a goal. Best Vic Metro.
Grimes (187, 76)- best of the Vic mids. WA mids swamped the Vic.

Cale Morton - sensational. Marking, kicking and run was first class
Rhys Palmer (180, 76 ) - 34 possies
David Myers (190, 85 ) - rocketed up in draft position based on today.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2007, 06:17:22 PM
Sportal Bests:

WA:
Palmer drifted forward for three goals in the third term, finishing the match with 34 disposals. Chris Yarran (two goals) and Luke Sampey (two goals) up forward.
Cale Morton lived up to his reputation with 24 disposals and a goal, while David Myers (28 possessions), Chris Masten (26) and ruckman Nicholas Naitanui (22 hit-outs)

Vic Metro:
Addam Maric (three goals), Jack Grimes (two goals, 20 touches) and Matthew Kreuzer (17 touches, 23 hit-outs)

http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/afl-news-display/wa-thumps-vic-metro-30009
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 01, 2007, 05:14:23 AM
Western Australia 15.16 (106) defeated Vic Metro 8.10 (58)

Goals: WA: Palmer 5, Sampey 2, Jacky 2, Ellard 2, Yarran 2, Morton, Garlett. Vic Metro: Maric 3, Grimes 2, Kreuzer, Sullivan, Meredith

Best: WA: Palmer, McGinnity, Morton, Starling, Pears, Ellard. Vic Metro: Kreuzer, Hurley, Farmer, Simpson, Sullivan, Lobbe

At Subiaco Oval.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21995537%255E19897,00.html
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Gordon Bennett on July 01, 2007, 11:45:18 AM
Kevin Sheehan said that Maric's goal-kicking conversion rate over 18mths of the TAC was 85% - that's very, very impressive.

Cotchin was disappointing, but that's just one match. Don't write him off just yet. The reverse applies to Palmer.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 01, 2007, 01:32:39 PM
Kevin Sheehan said that Maric's goal-kicking conversion rate over 18mths of the TAC was 85% - that's very, very impressive.

Cotchin was disappointing, but that's just one match. Don't write him off just yet. The reverse applies to Palmer.

my exact thoughts.

One bad game doesn't make a player a dud, and
one good game doesn't make someone a star
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on July 01, 2007, 04:25:22 PM
my main concern with cotchins game yesterday was that at no stage did he break his tag. we already have deledio who cant break a tag in AFL, cotchin struggling to break it at that level anyway its true that 1 game doesnt make or wreck a players chances. Im spewing that Natanui isnt up for grabs.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 01, 2007, 05:56:06 PM
breaking a tag is a historical issue with Lids going back to his U18 years.

Last year and this year on a occasion it has been shown up eg vs attard or sherman.

Reckon Lids will overcome it in time, just needs more support around him and more experience
Title: U18 Champs - SA thumps Vic Country
Post by: one-eyed on July 01, 2007, 09:05:22 PM
South Australia 17. 10 (112) defeated Vic Country 9.8 (62)

Goals:
SA: Wright 4, Hartlett 3, Carr 2, Jesson 2, White, Millar, Hicks, Broadbent, Ebert, Stable
Vic Country: Kay 3, Normington, McKenna, Michaelides, Steven, Hockey, Blaser

Best:
SA: Greenwood, Stable, Petrenko, Ebert, Blesing, Wright, Walsh, Fairclough
Vic Country: McKenna, Kangars, Hockey, Suban, Kay, Curnow

Venue: AAMI Stadium
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 01, 2007, 09:14:29 PM
Looks like McEvoy and Henderson might slip  :pray
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 02, 2007, 04:09:19 AM
Western Australia

No Name                          DOB    HT WT Club
1 Luke PRATT             08 Oct 89 183 70 Swan Districts
2 Cruize GARLETT       06 Mar 89 172 70 Perth
3 Chris MASTEN         02 May 89 179 78 East Fremantle
4 Rhys PALMER          13 Feb 89 180 76 East Fremantle
5 David ELLARD         03 Mar 89 175 72 Swan Districts
6 Jarrhan JACKY         05 Apr 89 180 71 Subiaco
7 Daniel RICH            07 Jun 90 185 77 Subiaco
8 Justin RUSSELL        24 Feb 89 175 72 Perth
9 Steven BROWNE       01 Feb 89 181 74 West Perth
10 James VENTURINI   27 Jan 89 183 80 East Fremantle
11 Simon STARLING    15 May 89 181 83 Claremont
12 Patrick McGINNITY  18 Feb 89 182 75 Claremont
13 Chris YARRAN         19 Dec 90 179 82 Swan Districts
14 Don STIRLING         21 Oct 89 178 77 East Perth
15 David MYERS           30 Jun 89 190 85 Perth
16 Matthew DeBOER     10 Mar 90 185 81 Claremont
17 Tayte PEARS            24 Mar 90 192 90 East Perth
18 Alex RANCE             09 Oct 89 194 87 Swan Districts
19 Tony NOTTE             15 Apr 90 194 70 Swan Districts
20 Matthew BREEN        27 Jun 89 195 94 Peel Thunder
21 Simon CROSSLAND  20 Apr 89 190 88 West Perth
22 Cale MORTON           18 Jan 90 192 75 Claremont
23 Dave GOURDI          24 Nov 89 193 88 Subiaco
24 Aaron SWEET           27 Jan 89 186 86 East Perth
25 Jarad WINTER          06 Jan 89 178 82 South Fremantle
26 Michael DAWES        26 Jan 89 192 89 East Perth
27 Callum LESLIE          20 Jan 89 177 69 East Fremantle
28 Luke SAMPEY           23 May 89 191 91 East Perth
29 Mat TEDESCO          30 Aug 89 183 74 West Perth
30 Nicholas NAITANUI   04 May 90 194 70 Swan Districts FC


South Australia

NO NAME                           DOB       HT WT CLUB
1 Hamish HARTLETT        14 Aug 90 181 72 West Adelaide/ Edwardstown 
2 Henry WHITE                01 Apr 89 184 70 North Adelaide/Walkerville 
3 Matthew JAENSCH       18 Sept 89 179 75 Sturt/Hahndorf 
4 Tom HOLMES                01 Mar 89 174 73 Glenelg/West Gambier 
5 Matthew WRIGHT         14 Dec 89 176 75  North Adelaide/Walkerville
6 Kriston THOMPSON       22 Aug 89 174  72 North Adelaide/Quorn Willsden 
7 Jarred PETRENKO         22 Dec 89 176 75  Eagles/Portland
8 Levi GREENWOOD        19 Feb 89 181 91 Port Magpies/North Whyalla
9 Casey CARR                 06 Jan 89 184 79 Port Magpies/United Yeelanna 
10 Nick MURPHY             01 Jun 89 187 83  South Adelaide/Strathalbyn
11 Tom McNAMARA         29 Apr 90 189 84  South Adelaide/Happy Valley
12 Tom ANDERSON        16 Dec 89 184 80 Sturt/Blackwood 
13 Scott BLESING           11 Feb 90 184 79  West Adelaide/Edwardstown
14 Zac MILLAR               12 Mar 89 182 87  North Adelaide/St Peter’s College
15 Sam FAIRCLOUGH      03 Jul 89 179 80 Eagles/Henley 
16 Cody HICKS               16 Jun 89 179 74  Eagles/Henley
17 Matthew BROADBENT 01 Aug 90 187 73  Eagles/Henley
18 Dylan JESSON           21 Feb 90 187 87 Central District/Smithfield 
19 Dean CHRISTIE         17 Feb 89 183 82  North Adelaide/St Peter’s College
20 Brad EBERT               02 Apr 90 187 86  Port Magpies/Henley
21 John McDONALD         17 Jul 89 181 75  Sturt/Bridgewater
22 James WUNDKE        02 Mar 90 196 87  North Adelaide/Walkerville
23 Alex KINAL               31 May 90 192 87 Sturt/Walkerville
24 Lee STAPLE               08 Dec 89 189 80  Eagles/Port Districts
25 Nick WARK               10 Nov 89 186 90  Sturt/Blackwood
26 Tyson SLATTERY       03 Dec 90 187 82  West Adelaide/Edwardstown
27 Paul CAHILL             19 Aug 90 194 78  Sturt/Blackwood
28 Aaron DAY                23 Mar 89 187 96 Glenelg/Sacred Heart College
29 Tim WALSH               03 Oct 89 197 85 Port Magpies/Cowell 
30 Rhys CLINTON          24 Mar 90 203 82 Port Magpies/Salisbury North
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 02, 2007, 04:18:08 AM
Victorian Metropolitan

No Name                                DOB      HT WT Club
1 Will DE BRUIN                 11 Jun 89 185 77 Oakleigh/Trinity Grammar
2 Patrick VESZPREMI        01 Sep 89  181 83 Northern/Bundoora
3 Matthew KREUZER         13 May 89  199 91 Northern/Bundoora
4 Jeremy LAIDLER            05 Aug 89  188 82 Calder/Doutta Stars 
5 Lachlan HILL                  15 May 89  189 83 Oakleigh/Scotch College
6 Addam MARIC                18 Apr 90  179 80 Calder/Greenvale
7 James POLKINGHORNE   21 Jan 89  181 82 Calder/Strathmore
8  Michael HURLEY            01 Jun 90  192 88 Northern/Macleod 
9  Dean PUTT                    10 Apr 89  202 88 Calder/Woodend
10 Rhyce PRISMALL          06 Apr 89  189 86 Western/Werribee 
11 Dylan JOYCE               21 Feb 90  170 68 Calder/Doutta Stars
12 Mitchell FARMER          04 Jan 89  179 76 Calder/Craigieburn
13 Harry CROFT                24 Oct 89  192 82 Oakleigh/Wesley College
14  Scott SIMPSON           19 Oct 89  194 91 Dandenong/Mt Eliza 
15 Brad JONES                 24 Jun 89  181 76 Eastern/Templestowe
16 Jack GRIMES               11 May 89  187 76 Northern/Hurstbridge
17 Jackson TRENGOVE      02 Nov 90  196 77 Calder/Strathmore
18 Andrew OTTEN             15 May 89  192 86 Oakleigh/Whitefriars
19  Jarrad GRANT               06 Jul 89  191 77 Dandenong/Frankston Bombers
20 Luke POTTS                  25 Feb 89  177 68 Dandenong/Pines
21 Will SULLIVAN             24 Aug 89  202 95 Western/Werribee 
22 Steven GAERTNER        02 Jan 90  196 83 Dandenong/Edithvale-Aspendale
23 Hugh SANDILANDS      07 Mar 89  191 82 Oakleigh/Caulfield Grammar
24  Callan WARD              10 Apr 90  183 71 Western/Spotswood
25 Trent COTCHIN            07 Apr 90  184 81 Northern/PEGS 
26 Nick CATTAPAN           13 Feb 89  179 75 Calder/Aberfeldie
27  Ashley ARROWSMITH  12 Apr 89 188 82 Calder/East Keilor
28  Brett MEREDITH         20 Jan 89  182 81 Northern/Bundoora
29 Darcy DANIHER          21 Sep 89  192 89 Calder/Aberfeldie 
30  Matthew LOBBE         12 Feb 89  197 80 Eastern/Monbulk

 
Victorian Country

No Name                                 DOB      HT WT Club
1  Nick SUBAN                   09 May 90  178 78  North Ballarat/Bacchus Marsh
2 James BLASER                15 Mar 89  173 79  Gippsland/Trafalgar
3 Kane SMITH                    15 Feb 89  174 77 Geelong/Lara
4 Ashley HOCKEY               09 Mar 89  181 78 Murray/Mooroopna
5 Guy O’KEEFE                  05 Dec 89  184 76 Geelong/Geelong Grammar
6 Jack STEVEN                  28 Mar 90  179 77 Geelong/Lorne
7 Grant FORD                    23 Mar 89  179 77 Bendigo/Swan Hill
8 Robert MICHAELIDES      24 Apr 89  182 82 Gippsland/Morwell
9 Rex TAYLOR                   28 Aug 89  168 62 Bendigo/Rumbalara
10 Edward CURNOW          07 Nov 89  182 75 Geelong/Geelong College
11 Josh GAYLOR                05 Feb 90  185 80 Bendigo/Swan Hill
12 Jayden DONALDSON     10 Mar 89  188 85 Bendigo/Sandhurst
13 Toby THOOLAN             23 Feb 90  195 92 Bendigo/Swan Hill
14 Patrick DANGERFIELD   05 Apr 90  188 80 Geelong/Anglesea
15 Dan McKENNA              29 Jun 89  194 82 Gippsland/Traralgon
16 Chris KANGARS           01 Aug 89  193 84 Geelong/Geelong Amateurs
17 Scott SELWOOD           27 Mar 90  184 81 Bendigo/Sandhurst
18 Jackson HALL              06 Sep 89  187 76 Gippsland/Traralgon
19 Nicholas HEYNE            22 Jul 90  186 79 Gippsland/Orbost Snowy Rovers
20 Ryan HOBBS               19 Feb 89  194 89 North Ballarat/Harrow/Balmoral
21 Clayton HINKLEY         21 Feb 89  185 72 North Ballarat/Warrack Eagles
22 Haelen KAY                 27 Jun 89  186 75 Gippsland/DWWW Allies
23 Ryan NORMINGTON     22 Aug 89  186 76 Murray/Shepparton United
24 Matt AUSTIN               30 Mar 89  186 74 North Ballarat/Stawell
25 Grant BELL                 20 Dec 89  183 82 North Ballarat/Creswick
26 Brent CONNELLY         24 Feb 89  199 84 Gippsland/Morwell
27 Ben McEVOY                11 Jul 89  199 90 Murray/Dederang-Mt Beauty
28 Robert TARRANT         25 Apr 89  196 92 Bendigo/South Mildura
29 Dawson SIMPSON       17 Feb 89  205 97 Murray/Barnawartha
30 Lachlan HENDERSON  14 Dec 89  196 90 Geelong/Geelong College 
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 02, 2007, 04:22:13 AM
Division 2 Squads

Tasmania
http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=45966

Queensland
http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=45905

NSW-ACT
http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=46050

Northern Territory
http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=45916
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 02, 2007, 04:25:22 AM
(http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5548930,00.jpg)
Levi Greenwood

Greenwood in charge for SA
Adelaide Advertiser
ZAC MILBANK
July 02, 2007

SOUTH Australia started its under-18 national championship campaign with a convincing 50-point victory against Victoria Country at AAMI Stadium last night.

Setting up the win with a strong first quarter, the Croweaters handled the greasy conditions far better than the visitors and with a 32-point lead at the first change, were always going to be difficult to chase down.

"We talked about that beforehand, that winning the first quarter had to be high on the agenda," SA coach Brenton Phillips said.

"Their eyeballs were hanging out of their heads when they ran out of these rooms so it was really good they could compose themselves, get after the footy and be strong at the contest. I think that's where we set up the match."

Victoria Country - with forward Haelen Kay leading strongly - surged during the second term to close the gap to 17 points at half-time.

But after regrouping at the main change, SA booted the first three goals of the third term to steady and take a six-goal buffer into three-quarter time.

Port Magpies pair Levi Greenwood and Brad Ebert, who have both sampled league football in the SANFL this year, showed the benefit of playing against bigger bodies by dominating for the Croweaters.

SA captain Ebert started in attack and proved to be too strong in several marking contests while Greenwood continually hit the ball hard and rebounded off half-back.

"Wasn't Greenwood good? He just straight-lined every ball he went for," Phillips said.

"I thought our efforts to tackle, harass and smother were really first-class."

Crumbing forward Matt Wright, who kicked four goals and set up one other, was a livewire in attack for SA while Hamish Hartlett - younger brother of Carlton's Adam - contributed three goals.

SA takes on arch-rival Victoria Metro - which lost its opening match to Western Australia - in its second game on Friday at Skilled Stadium, Geelong.

SA       6.2 9.3 13.5 17.10 (112)
Vic Cty 1.0 6.4  7.5   9.8 (62)

BEST - South Australia: Greenwood, Ebert, Fairclough, Wright, Petrenko, Hartlett, Day.

Victoria Country: McKenna, Curnow, Kay, McEvoy, Suban.

GOALS - South Australia: Wright 4, Hartlett 3, Carr, Jesson 2, White, Millar, Hicks, Broadbent, Ebert, Staple.

Victoria Country: Kay 3, Blaser, Hockey, Steven, Michaelides, McKenna, Normington.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22000156-21546,00.html
Title: Kevin Sheehan on Sport 927 about the U18 Champs
Post by: one-eyed on July 03, 2007, 02:21:57 PM
Kevin Sheehan, the National Talent Manager for the AFL joined Michael and Mick on Prime Time Sports for a chat about the National U/18 Championships.

http://www.sport927.com.au/gateway/Daily_Audio/Sound%20Grabs/KS_030707.asx (http://www.sport927.com.au/gateway/Daily_Audio/Sound%20Grabs/KS_030707.asx)
Title: Re: Kevin Sheehan on Sport 927 about the U18 Champs
Post by: one-eyed on July 03, 2007, 03:04:52 PM
Summary

* Home ground advantage was probably the reason why WA and SA won comfortably respectively.  It's meant to be a National championships so after the Vic sides had won the past 7 championships it was time to move them out of Victoria. A chance to see people in a different light and under different conditions as that's what will happen in the AFL.

* Kreuzer - really stood up to his high ranking. Gone up another few notches this year from last year. Worked hard, endurance and speed incredible for his size. Clean skills who can push forward.

* Cotchin - dirty day. Had a companion all day and maybe that's the first he's had in his career. Wil learn he needs to work harder to burn off his direct opponent. Still a good player as he's been watching him since U16 but it wasn't his day.

* Surprises - WA kids. A few recruiters may now push them higher up.

* Rhys Palmer - was a bit player but got 35 possies and said pick me. Took 'em on. Run, beat tackles and bounce. Could have kicked 6. Watch for him in 2nd and 3rd game. 8 senior games at East Freo.

* Carl Morton - super impressive. 6' 4" played on the wing. Speed, endurance, lace out passes. 25 possies.

* David Myers - Similar size. big ground and fast track suited him. Moved beautifully across HB. Left footer. Important player for WA.

* Alex Rance - played across HB. 194cm Key defender. Father of Murray Rance but not eligible for F/S.

* Brad Ebert - terrific. Cousin of Brett. 28 possies. Played deep forward then into the midfield. Had a big influence wherever he went. Just 17 and already SA captain. Playing senior footy for Port Magpies. Strong on both sides of the body. Good in the air. 6' 2". Early draft pick.

* Levi Greenwood - left footer, strong body played across HB.

* Dan McKenna - key forward, key back, 194cm. Fine year for Gippsland Power

* Ben McEvoy - 199cm ruckman/key forward. Had 10 marks. Good defensive marks. Early draft choice. Enormous potential.

* James Polkinghorne - quite a good player for Vic Metro. 181cm, strongly built. played onball. Solid game first up. From Strathmore.

* Adam Maric - very good 3 goals but shoulder injury. 5 goals in TAC Cup final last year. Small forward. Accuracy level is 85% at goal. Long kick as well as clever around goals.

* Darren Jackie - typical Indigenous small forward. 180cm. Light but promising. Knows where the goals are.  Long kick as well as clever around goals.

* Next game - Div 2 Thurs, Div Friday at Kardinia Park.
Title: U18 Champs - NT thumps Tas; NSW/ACT thumps QLD
Post by: one-eyed on July 05, 2007, 08:51:02 PM
RESULTS from the NAB AFL under 18 championships division two matches played at Skilled Stadium today.


Northern Territory 13.12 (90)
Tasmania             5.15 (45)

Goals:
NT: Rolfe 4, Whitehurst 3, Motlop 2, Talbot, Calma-Holt, Phoenix, Shannon Rioli.
Tasmania: Bowden 2, Rohizat, O’Garey, McShane

Best:
NT: Wonaeamirri, C.Rioli, Fittock, Liddle, Rolfe, Motlop, Stokes. 
Tasmania: Williams, Bowden, Joseph, Murphy, Sheean, Collier

=================

NSW-ACT 15.19 (109)
Queensland 7.5 (47)

Goals:
NSW-ACT: Bird 3, McGregor 3, McIntyre 3, Breust 2, Davies, Walker, Terlich, Armstrong.
Queensland: Daye, Spackman, Whitecross, Mulligan, Fewkes, Zorko, Magin

Best:
NSW-ACT: Ediriwickrama, Davies, Drum, Bruce, Breust, Bird.
Queensland: Gibson, Mulligan, Zorko, Pantic, Headland.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: DallasCrane on July 05, 2007, 09:20:50 PM
NSW-ACT 15.19 (109)
Queensland 7.5 (47)

Interesting result when you consider that last years draft only had one draftee from NSW/ACT and about 10 were drafted from Qld!
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 05, 2007, 09:35:14 PM
30 Nicholas NAITANUI   04 May 90 194 70 Swan Districts FC

watch out for his kid next year, FREAK

Keep an eye on Hamish Hartlett as well
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 05, 2007, 09:38:18 PM
Greenwood, from what I've read sounds like a player we need.

Tough and hard at it midfielder with sound skills
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 06, 2007, 12:27:08 AM
On the AFL site they have two recruiting staff from a club go through some of the the WA and Vic Metro players:

Chris Masten
Rhys Palmer
Jarrhan Jacky
Daniel Rich
Patrick McGinnity
Chris Yarran
Tayte Pears
Alex Rance
Cale Morton
Nicholas Naitanui

Matthew Kreuzer
Addam Maric
James Polkinghorne
Jack Grimes
Trent Cotchin

Reviews at: http://www.afl.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=208&newsId=46627
Title: Today's U18 champs games moved to Princes Park
Post by: one-eyed on July 06, 2007, 12:30:05 AM
NAB AFL Under 18 matches shifted
5:03 PM Thu 5 July, 2007
afl.com.au

FRIDAY'S NAB AFL Under 18 Championships Division One matches will be relocated from Skilled Stadium to MC Labour Park.


Division One matches to be played at MC Labour Park on Friday:

11am Western Australia v Vic Country

1.30 pm South Australia v Vic Metro

Remaining NAB AFL Under 18 Championship matches:

Tuesday, July 10 at MC Labour Park:

11am Queensland v Northern Territory

1.30pm Tasmania v NSW-ACT

Wednesday, July 11 at MC Labour Park:

11am Vic Metro v Vic Country

1.30pm Western Australia v South Australia   

Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 06, 2007, 02:07:17 AM
Teens start to spark their Territory
Emma Quayle | July 6, 2007 | The Age

MARLON Motlop's season has not stuck to the script.

The Darwin teenager had hoped to spend three or four weeks in Adelaide this year, preparing for the under-18 championships in games played at a faster pace than he was used to.

Motlop went there almost straight after he returned from the AIS-AFL Academy trip to South Africa. But after playing his first game for the North Adelaide under 17s, he had to turn around.

"I played one game and that was it. My back got really sore, and it turned out I had stress fractures," said Motlop, who has four cousins and a brother, Thomas, on the North Adelaide list.

"I was looking forward to it. I thought it would help me get ready for the championships, and it would have been good to play footy with my cousins down there.

"I've had to do a bit of rehab and it's been frustrating. I haven't been playing as well as I've wanted, but it's been good just to get out there."

Motlop played his second match in more than two months yesterday, kicking two goals for the Northern Territory and setting up a third for teammate Peter Rolfe midway through a very wet final quarter on a sodden Skilled Stadium.

After another teammate, Paul Campbell, soccered the ball deep into the forward line, Motlop pressed back against his opponent and poked his toe at the ball. It bobbed up into the path of Rolfe, who put a third consecutive soccer kick through the goals.

The Territory boys, well beaten by NSW/ACT in the first round of the championships, responded with a 45-point win over Tasmania. Austin Wonaeamirri and Cyril Rioli were among their best players, while potential first-round pick Tom Collier playing very well for Tasmania.

The NSW/ACT team beat Queensland by 62 points in the second match, the Queenslanders winless after their first two games and out of the running to win consecutive championships.

Alan McConnell coached Motlop through the Academy program and believes his bright mind and sharper skills will appeal at draft time.

"He's got exceptional skill. He's a one-touch player, he's got lovely balance, a good sidestep and great awareness," McConnell said.

"He was the best decision-maker in the testing we did at the AIS and that's a big plus, but one of the things Marlon probably needs to work on is his decision-making around transitions, and his ability to work both ways.

"At this stage, when the ball leaves his space he tends to stop and watch, or wait for the next possession rather than find his man when he can't influence the play. There's a bit of work to do there, but that's not unusual for boys who are at the top of the tree in junior footy. He certainly has some talent."

Motlop, a cousin of Daniel and Shannon Motlop, has new plans. He was happier yesterday than he was after his first game of the championships and knows what he wants to work on through the rest of the year.

"I want to become a really hard runner, just do all the gut-busting running and break the lines," he said. "That's probably it, and just the in-close work. I want to make sure I get my hands on the ball."

Today's second-round division one games have been switched to Princes Park to prevent Skilled Stadium becoming more of a mudpit.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/teens-start-to-spark-their-territory/2007/07/05/1183351375976.html
Title: U18 Champs - WA downs Vic Country; Vic Metro too good for SA
Post by: one-eyed on July 06, 2007, 04:30:21 PM
Western Australia 9.14 (68) d Victoria Country 3.7 (25)

Goals: Western Australia : Masten 2, Morton 2, Ellard 2, Palmer, Garlett, Yarran
Victoria Country: Hobbs, McKenna, Bell

Best: Western Australia: Palmer, Masten, Morton, Rich, Myers, Rance
Victoria Country: Hockey, Austin, Selwood, Suban, Hobbs

http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/afl-news-display/wa-downs-vic-country-30456

==============

Vic Metro     4.2    5.3    7.5    7.6-48
South Aust  0.2    1.3    2.4    3.5-23

Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on July 06, 2007, 04:56:45 PM
Im a big fan of Morton, Rance and Myers. Hope that atleast 1 comes to tigerland.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 06, 2007, 05:10:21 PM
Just got back from a freezing, wet and muddy Princes Park after watching Vic Metro knock off a very disappointing SA. The croweaters just couldn't handle the wet conditions especially in the first half when they could only manage one goal. A hard game to judge in terms of draftees as you rarely get these poor conditions in the AFL now so I'll put my novice thoughts down.

Vic Metro:

Potts - kicked 4 goals from the wing. It looked like he was on Greenwood.

Farmer - was the surprise packet today in a back pocket/small rebounding defender role. Totally dominated back there and got a heap of it.

Kreuzer - played ruck rover and occasionally forward for the first 3 quarters and then in the ruck in the last. For a 199cm kid he is extremely mobile as shown by the couple of smothers he had today. It wasn't a day big blokes but the Vic Metro coach and a number of watchers were raving about his game today. I still think he'll take time to develop for AFL. I still would lile to see him on a dry day to judge his foot skills.

Cotchin - Played across HB today and lived up to his high ranking. Skill level is very good. Very clean even in wet conditions when the footy to most of the others was like a cake of soap. One time he picked the ball off his toes, spun around to break a tackle and hit his teammate lace out by foot. He made one bad mistake kicking across goal straight to a SA player but that was the only thing you could criticize him on today. As for RFC needs he isn't a inside midfielder. Well at least today he wasn't used in the guts. If you were to compare him you would say he was more a Lids type although not as tall (184cm).

De Bruin - will probably be named in the bests as he was a good player for Metro and played in the middle but he has no right foot.

Polkinghorne - Was tagged today. Did okay but IMO nothing to write home about. Appears to be one of these kids who reputations precedes him going by the people watching him today.

Maric - Had 2 goals (clever snaps) to quarter time but I didn't notice him much after that.

Others in Metro's bests - Hurley at FB, Croft, Otten and Simpson. 

South Australia

Tom Holmes - in the middle was probably SA's best player. Got a fair bit of it, looked a decent kick and kicked their first goal. Hard to find other SA players who stood out. Ebert has very good and clean skills but didn't do much. Mostly played in front of his opponent and on the bounce dished off handballs to teammates running past. Likewise other South Aussies who are rated like Hartlett, McNamara and Millar. As mentioned Greenwood looked to have 4 kicked on him although I'm not 100% sure he was on Potts all game. 

I didn't see the WA vs Vic Country game but I asked someone who did and they said WA is a very good side. Cale Morton stood out clearly again. He must be close to one of first picked based on his U18 champs. Palmer was good again also. The WA names  listed by Sportal pretty much agreed with this bloke although he liked Garlett as well. For Vic Country, this blokes best players were McKenna and Selwood.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 06, 2007, 05:18:20 PM
Im a big fan of Morton, Rance and Myers. Hope that atleast 1 comes to tigerland.
I asked about Rance and apparently he had a very good last quarter rebounding out of defence.

The last round is on Wednesday so hopefully I'll get to see Morton and WA in the flesh against SA. On today's form WA would beat SA by 10 goals.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on July 06, 2007, 05:22:38 PM
I rang a couple of people who went, i couldnt go although i wanted to. they confirmed that we shouldnt be drafting really past round 3. Because this draft seems poor we need to get the priority pick at 17. Stick to the WA Boys. I want Rance at Richmond coz i see him as a full back going forward, myers is ok as well. If we got them at 17 & 18 Id be rapt. Morton or Kreuzer is the decision at our 1st pick for mine. We need to get a ruckman in the PSD.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 06, 2007, 05:33:48 PM
I rang a couple of people who went, i couldnt go although i wanted to. they confirmed that we shouldnt be drafting really past round 3. Because this draft seems poor we need to get the priority pick at 17. Stick to the WA Boys. I want Rance at Richmond coz i see him as a full back going forward, myers is ok as well. If we got them at 17 & 18 Id be rapt. Morton or Kreuzer is the decision at our 1st pick for mine. We need to get a ruckman in the PSD.
I would agree with that assessment Ramps. So would a Hawthorn scout I spoke to who was bored by half-time. It was wet conditions so maybe I'm being harsh but I was expecting a higher standard from the best kids in the country than what I saw today. What it says to me is we must keep our PP so we get the maximum we can out of this draft.
Title: Re: U18 Champs - WA downs Vic Country; Vic Metro too good for SA
Post by: one-eyed on July 06, 2007, 06:13:56 PM
Vic Metro     4.2    5.3    7.5    7.6-48
South Aust  0.2    1.3    2.4    3.5-23

Goals: 
Victoria Metro : Potts 4, De Bruin, Maric, Grant. 
South Australia : Holmes, Staple, White.

Best:
Victoria Metro: Potts, Polkinghorne, Otten, Cotchin, Farmer, De Bruin.
South Australia: Ebert, Hartlett, Murphy, Fairclough, McNamara.
 
Sportal Match Report at: http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/afl-news-display/vic-metro-holds-on-against-sa-30468
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 06, 2007, 08:58:13 PM
the quality of this year's draft certainly does drop away after about the top 25 or thereabouts. If we get a PP we will in the box seat for this year's draft  :thumbsup

ATM I'm leaning more towards Kreuzer at one (mainly cos I can't see McEvoy dropping)
If Carlton and Melbourne snare picks ahead of us then I'd like Morton or Ebert
And assuming we get a PP, I'd like Henderson and Rance, get some more quality talls

Also seriously considering laying off Schulz or Meyers, bundle them up with a 3rd rd pick and try and grab another first rounder
Title: James Polkinghorne (Vic Metro) article
Post by: one-eyed on July 07, 2007, 02:40:16 AM
(http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5556947,00.jpg)

Fearless Polkinghorne in Hawkish mood
07 July 2007   Herald Sun
Gareth Trickey

A BRIEF flirtation with volleyball has proved rewarding for Calder Cannons midfielder James Polkinghorne.

The 18-year-old son of former Hawthorn player Robert Polkinghorne and nephew of Hawks star David Polkinghorne, he has a remarkable ability to launch his 82kg frame over packs and snatch the ball out of thin air with the grace of a professional spiker.

His fearlessness around the packs has also caught the eye of national selectors at the national under-18 championships.

Polkinghorne picked up 18 possessions for Victoria Metro in last week's game against Western Australia and finished with 18 possessions yesterday against South Australia at Princes Park.

"The leaping and timing of my jump in volleyball has definitely carried across to my football game," Polkinghorne said.

"I played for three or four years with St Bernard's College and made the under-15 Victorian schoolboy side, but as football became more demanding I had to follow my passion and veer away from volleyball."

Polkinghorne missed a large chunk of last season because of osteitis pubis.

But the 181cm Strathmore teenager has returned from a rigorous pre-season to average 24 possessions this year.

Talk of playing for Hawthorn is inevitable when your father and uncle have left their mark at the club.

"Dad's been a really good influence and has tried to direct me in the right direction," Polkinghorne said.

"He tells me to just try and keep level-headed about it all and stay focused."

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22030766%255E19897,00.html
Title: U18 Champs could be moved to the Dome next week
Post by: one-eyed on July 07, 2007, 02:43:32 AM
(http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5556955,00.jpg)
Running hot: Rhys Palmer in action yesterday. Picture: Norm Oorloff

Push to move TAC matches to Dome
07 July 2007   Herald Sun
Scott Gullan

NORMALLY it's who's the next Chris Judd but the main talking point at yesterday's second round of the national under-18 championships was actually the Telstra Dome.

More specifically, why can't we showcase the best young talent in the land on the perfect track indoors at the Dome?

After Wednesday's near flood in Geelong which saw yesterday's games moved to Princes Park, the recruiters were already edgy.

That soon turned to anger when, the minute Vic Metro ran on to the ground for game two, it started pouring rain.

While it's always good to see if players can handle the wet, the clubs fear they will turn up next week for the final games and get another muddy slog that won't shed any more light on the kids' abilities.

"It's ridiculous," one recruiter said. "We should be at Telstra Dome because these are the potential stars of our competition and they should be on show in the best conditions available.

"It's no good for us if we roll up here again next week and see this again."

Last night, the AFL's general manager of national and international game development, David Matthews, was seeking Telstra Dome boss Ian Collins in the hope of switching at least next Wednesday's Division One games. They will also discuss locking in one or two games at the stadium next year.

While the weather took up much of the discussion, the performance of Western Australia and potential No. 1 Matthew Kreuzer was also a talking point.

WA, which didn't win a game last year, is on track to win its first national title since 1999 after it made it two from two, easily defeating Vic Country.

The standout player was East Fremantle midfielder Rhys Palmer, who collected 36 touches and kicked one goal yesterday after bagging five from 35 possessions in Perth last week against Vic Metro. He has now gone from a late first-round draft pick to a possible top 10.

"Everyone likes a player who can play in all conditions, the mental strength to play the game for what it's worth anywhere," WA coach Gerard McNeill said.

Others to impress included Cale Morton, the brother of West Coast's Mitch, East Fremantle midfielder Chris Masten, full-back Alex Rance, the son of Footscray and West Coast player Murray, and Fijian-born ruckman Nicholas Naitanui, who is too young for this year's draft but will be hot property in 12 months time.

Kreuzer, who led Vic Metro to a comfortable victory over South Australia, showed he can do it in any conditions. Playing as a ruck-rover despite standing 199cm, he threw himself everywhere, smothering and doing all the one-percenters which gladden recruiters hearts.

His Metro teammate Trent Cotchin, who is expected to go No. 2, fought back after a quiet opening game in the championships to show his class.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22031058%255E19897,00.html
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on July 07, 2007, 09:42:05 AM
picture of palmer looks like he was taking the pisse.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 07, 2007, 09:59:38 AM
picture of palmer looks like he was taking the peee.

certainly wasn't a flattering picture  :lol
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on July 07, 2007, 10:20:14 AM
picture of palmer looks like he was taking the peee.

certainly wasn't a flattering picture  :lol

It reminds me of a scene of a 16 or 17 year old whose seen a footy go over the fence at a junior game like under 12s somewhere - and instead of kicking it back decides to take it home lol... he'll go top 10 Palmer but it shows this draft aint no draft where you want to be pick past 25 or 30 or in our case 34.
Title: Re: U18 Champs could be moved to the Dome next week
Post by: Fishfinger on July 07, 2007, 10:30:03 AM
"It's ridiculous," one recruiter said. "We should be at Telstra Dome because these are the potential stars of our competition and they should be on show in the best conditions available.

"It's no good for us if we roll up here again next week and see this again."

:nopity
Best conditions for the players or recruiters?
If you want the best it's the MCG. You'll still get your blanket and thermos wet watching from the fence.
"Everyone likes a player who can play in all conditions, the mental strength to play the game for what it's worth anywhere," WA coach Gerard McNeill said.
He should point that out to the whining soft*** recruiter. They played on a hard, dry surface last week.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 07, 2007, 12:01:49 PM
picture of palmer looks like he was taking the peee.

certainly wasn't a flattering picture  :lol

It reminds me of a scene of a 16 or 17 year old whose seen a footy go over the fence at a junior game like under 12s somewhere - and instead of kicking it back decides to take it home lol... he'll go top 10 Palmer but it shows this draft aint no draft where you want to be pick past 25 or 30 or in our case 34.

you can still find some bargains late in the draft, there always are, you just need to do your homework to find good players this year.

But we are lucky (assuming we get a PP) because we have picks where the talent still is
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 07, 2007, 05:39:14 PM
picture of palmer looks like he was taking the peee.

certainly wasn't a flattering picture  :lol

It reminds me of a scene of a 16 or 17 year old whose seen a footy go over the fence at a junior game like under 12s somewhere - and instead of kicking it back decides to take it home lol... he'll go top 10 Palmer but it shows this draft aint no draft where you want to be pick past 25 or 30 or in our case 34.

you can still find some bargains late in the draft, there always are, you just need to do your homework to find good players this year.

But we are lucky (assuming we get a PP) because we have picks where the talent still is
True bluey. This year will be a real test for all club recruiters. It's probably on par with the poorer 2002 and 2003 drafts.   
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 07, 2007, 05:45:07 PM
I'd liken it to 2003, nothing compares to the crapness of 2002.

Some identified gun talents at the top re Kreuzer, Cotchin, Masten, Ebert, Morton and a decent amount of depth.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on July 07, 2007, 05:51:34 PM
Maybe its a draft to give VFL listed players a go - late. For us thered be nothing wrong in going with Neville at 50, Anderson at 66 and Sylvester at 82 or something like that.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 07, 2007, 05:59:39 PM
No problem with that Ramps. You would need to take Sylvester at 66 at least. He and Neville now have a profile with Andy Collins and us pumping them up. Essendon are allegedly snooping around too.

I'd liken it to 2003, nothing compares to the crapness of 2002.

Some identified gun talents at the top re Kreuzer, Cotchin, Masten, Ebert, Morton and a decent amount of depth.
That's okay for us if it's the same as long as we don't lose our PP. The 2003 draft stopped at pick 20 (Sam Butler) with just a handful of players making it after that. We had pick 21 and Miller went speculative with Gilmour  :P yet Rainesy was at 76  :thumbsup.
Title: U18 Champs - Change of Venue
Post by: one-eyed on July 09, 2007, 06:56:56 PM
Change of Venue for the U18 Champs this week.

Divison 2 games on Tuesday (tomorrow) will now be held at Victoria Park.

http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=46930

There's word the Division 1 games on Wednesday will be moved to Casey Fields, Cranbourne

Victoria Metro vs Victoria Country at 10:15am
South Australia vs Western Australia at 12:45pm

http://www.vflfooty.com//modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=16255#16255
Title: Re: U18 Champs - Change of Venue
Post by: one-eyed on July 10, 2007, 12:17:34 AM
There's word the Division 1 games on Wednesday will be moved to Casey Fields, Cranbourne

Confirmed

Tuesday July 10 – Victoria Park
Division Two
11.00am – Northern Territory v Queensland
1.30pm – NSW/ACT v Tasmania

Wednesday July 11 – Casey Fields, Cranbourne
Division One 
10.15am – Vic Country v Vic Metro
12.45pm – Western Australia v South Australia

http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=46930
Title: U18 Champs - NT defeats Qld
Post by: one-eyed on July 10, 2007, 01:26:19 PM
From BF: Link (http://bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346445&page=3)

NT   1.2   5.3   11.4    17.9-111
Qld  2.2   6.5   11.6    12.12-84

Low standard. Rioli starred but not much to get excited about.
Title: Re: U18 Champs - Change of Venue
Post by: mightytiges on July 10, 2007, 05:02:00 PM
After having 10 draftees last year, Qld have certainly come crashing back to Earth in 2007  :o. NSW are blitzing Tassie on the way to the Div 2 title.

Wednesday July 11 – Casey Fields, Cranbourne
Why bloody Cranbourne!  :P There goes the idea of popping down for a little while to watch the Div 1 games tomorrow  :scream.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 10, 2007, 05:50:54 PM
Burgo's top 10
1:42 PM Tue 10 July, 2007
By Matt Burgan,
afl.com.au

1 – Rhys Palmer – Western Australia - Born: 13 February 1989, Height: 180cm, Weight: 76kg, Club: East Fremantle

2 – Chris Masten – Western Australia - Born: 2 May 1989, Height: 179cm, 78kg, Club: East Fremantle

3 – Cale Morton – Western Australia - Born: 18 January 1990, Height: 192cm, Weight: 75kg, Club: Claremont

4 – Mitchell Farmer – Vic Metro - Born: 4 January 1989, Height: 179cm, Weight: 76kg, Club: Calder Cannons

5 – Cyril Rioli – Northern Territory - Born: 14 June 1989, Height: 178cm, Weight: 74kg, Club: St Marys

6 – David Myers – Western Australia - Born: 30 June 1989, Height: 190cm, Weight: 85kg, Club: Perth

7 – Tayte Pears – Western Australia - Born: 24 March 1990, Height: 192cm, Weight: 90kg, Club: East Perth

8 – Luke Potts – Vic Metro - Born: 25 February 1989, Height: 177cm, Weight: 68kg, Club: Dandenong Stingrays

9 – Daniel Rich – Western Australia - Born: 7 June 1990, Height: 185cm, 77kg, Club: Subiaco

10 – Ranga Ediriwickrama – NSW/ACT - Born: 10 August 1990, Height: 179cm, Weight: 71kg, Club: Pennant Hills

http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=46975
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 10, 2007, 05:52:52 PM
NSW ended winning by 3-4 goals apparently

Bird got the medal for best player in Div 2.

Bird, Cornelius, C. Rioli, Joseph, Collier and Walker were AA.

MVP for each side was

QLD - Zorco
NSW - Bird
Tas - Joseph
NT - Wonaeamirri

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8075775&postcount=45
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 10, 2007, 06:07:18 PM
A Carlton supporter has posted some footage of  Cotchin, Kreuzer, Palmer, Maric, McEvoy, Ebert and Rioli on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLvfLXjVJkU
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: cub on July 10, 2007, 09:29:04 PM
Why bloody Cranbourne!  :P There goes the idea of popping down for a little while to watch the Div 1 games tomorrow  :scream.

yep right royal pain in the butt that one.
Was going to head in after nightshift and a quick nap but 10:15 am at Cranbourne -= no chance
No tellie either by the look of it.

Usually dont really give a rats about these, but was interested in all the hype about Vodka (cruiser) - lol
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 11, 2007, 02:56:44 AM
NAB AFL Under 18 Championships – Day Six Results

Division Two results from the matches played on Tuesday at Victoria Park in Melbourne.

Northern Territory 17.9 (111)
Queensland          12.13 (85)

Goals -
NT: C Rioli 7, Rolfe 4, Whitehurst 4, Motlop, Stewart Rioli
QLD: Zorko 3, Stewart 2, Magin 2, Mulligan 2, Hill, Fewkes, Enright

Best -
NT: Oliver, C Rioli, Wonaeamirri, Liddle, Rolfe, Sharples, Whitehurst
QLD: Zorko, Gibson, Stewart, Brittain, Headland, Reid

===================

NSW/ACT 20.13 (133)
Tasmania 13.14 (92)

Goals –
NSW/ACT: McGregor 3, Breust 2, Colvin 2, Davies 2, Davis 2, Terlich 2, Ediriwickrama 2, Bird, Reed, Walker, Wilson, Stroobants
TAS: Bowden 2, Shade 2, Cornelius 2, O’Garey, Hislop, Collier, Joseph, Salter, Mihocek, Hewitt

Best –
NSW/ACT: Bird, Ediriwickrama, Breust, McGregor, Reed, Davies, Cleaver
TAS: Joseph, Salter, Cornelius, Bowden, Collier, Bellchambers

Match reports: http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=47020
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2007, 02:12:10 PM
Pics from the Division 2 games yesterday:

NSW/ACT vs TASMANIA
http://aflphotos.com.au/search/results/?q=collection:2007%20NAB%20AFL%20Under%2018%20Championships%20-%20NSW/ACT%20v%20Tasmania%20(LC) (http://aflphotos.com.au/search/results/?q=collection:2007%20NAB%20AFL%20Under%2018%20Championships%20-%20NSW/ACT%20v%20Tasmania%20(LC))

NT vs QLD
http://aflphotos.com.au/search/results/?q=collection:2007%20NAB%20AFL%20Under%2018%20Championships%20-%20Northern%20Teritory%20v%20Queensland%20(LC) (http://aflphotos.com.au/search/results/?q=collection:2007%20NAB%20AFL%20Under%2018%20Championships%20-%20Northern%20Teritory%20v%20Queensland%20(LC))
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Gordon Bennett on July 11, 2007, 02:14:32 PM
I saw all the Vic Metro v Vic Country match, and the 1st qtr of the WA v SA match.

Vic Metro 17 8 110
Vic Country 9 8 62

WA well on top at quarter time- the WA boys playing like they knew they had the title - lots of enthusiasm and talent.


Title: U18 Champs - Vic Metro thumps Vic Country
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2007, 02:22:01 PM
Thanks GB  :)

Victoria Metropolitan: 4.3, 7.6, 14.8, 17.8 (110)
Victoria Country:         2.2, 4.3,  4.6,   9.8 (62)

Goals -
Victoria Metropolitan: Maric 4, Grimes 3, Grant 3, Simpson, Cattapan, Potts, Arrowsmith, Polkinghorne, Daniher, Kreuzer
Victoria Country: Gaylor 3, Kay 2, Selwood, Ford, Normington, Hall

Best -
Victoria Metropolitan: Grimes, Maric, Simpson, De Bruin, Potts, Farmer
Victoria Country: Selwood, Suban, Normington, Ford, Steven, Gaylor

Sportal Match report:
http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/AFL-news-display/city-slickers-too-strong-30861
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2007, 02:27:29 PM
I saw all the Vic Metro v Vic Country match, and the 1st qtr of the WA v SA match.

WA well on top at quarter time- the WA boys playing like they knew they had the title - lots of enthusiasm and talent.

Who was most impressive in your opinion GB?

I see Kreuzer and Cotchin are not named in the Metro bests. Ruckman Simpson looked fairly good in the mud last week and he's named in the bests today. How did you see his game?
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Gordon Bennett on July 11, 2007, 02:30:18 PM
continued:

Cotchin very good across half-back, but came off during the 2nd qtr and spent time with the physio's. Played under some duress in the 3rd qtr, then limped off about the 13min mark. Took no further part.

Kreuzer - didn't set the world on fire, yet appears to have the world at his feet.He was unlucky to miss out on the "best" list. A good game. I feel he'll be taken at No. 1, despite the good form of some West Aussies.

Maric - kicked 4, and showed a lot of polish.He reminds me a lot of a young Nathan Brown - perhaps not as much flair, but with a deadly accurate kick. Many people say that we shouldn't take a small forward at No.17/18, but this guy is a great finisher, and can play on the ball. He played on-ball for 5 minutes in the 2nd qtr, and then again for the first 10 mins of the last qtr. In that time on-ball in the last qtr he had 4 kicks, one handball, and 2 tackles - not too bad in 10 mins of play.

Daniher - very good until injured - will be seriously looked at by Essendon and Swans under F/S.

Gaertner - 196cm played on the wing - a bit unco and untidy, but good raw material

Farmer - very solid back pocket - nothing flash
Croft - 192cm - showed a bit in defence
Grimes - very good in 2nd half
Hurley - dominant in last qtr


Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Gordon Bennett on July 11, 2007, 02:35:42 PM
Who was most impressive in your opinion GB?

I see Kreuzer and Cotchin are not named in the Metro bests. Ruckman Simpson looked fairly good in the mud last week and he's named in the bests today. How did you see his game?
I liked Maric the most.
Simpson played mainly across half-forward - he was okay - I thought his form in the first game was more impressive. The ruck was shared between Kreuzer and Sullivan v McEvoy. All three are good. Simpson at 194cm is a promising KP.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Gordon Bennett on July 11, 2007, 02:40:52 PM
Finally, a word on the WA boys - they are chock full of good 190cm players
Myers 190
Pears 192
Notte 194
Rance 194
Morton 192
Gourdis 193

all good players.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2007, 03:46:45 PM
Who was most impressive in your opinion GB?

I see Kreuzer and Cotchin are not named in the Metro bests. Ruckman Simpson looked fairly good in the mud last week and he's named in the bests today. How did you see his game?
I liked Maric the most.
Simpson played mainly across half-forward - he was okay - I thought his form in the first game was more impressive. The ruck was shared between Kreuzer and Sullivan v McEvoy. All three are good. Simpson at 194cm is a promising KP.
Cheers GB.

If Kreuzer goes at 1st pick then it'll be either us or Carlton who get him. I'm still unsure about us taking a ruckman with our first pick and missing out on a quality onballer. Kreuzer reminds me a bit of Josh Fraser. Cotchin is/was classed at #2 but he is more a Lids type. Interesting to see which way we go with our first pick especially if we don't end up with first pick. Plough would love to draft the WA kids.

Thanks for the correction on Simpson. He did a fair bit of the ruckwork with Sullivan against SA while Kreuzer played ruck rover hence why I thought he was a ruckman.

Any thoughts GB on the youngest Selwood? Apparently below Joel at Geelong but up there with his other two older brothers.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on July 11, 2007, 04:10:02 PM
You could build a 10 year defence with Pears, Myers and Rance. Masten has nice hands and I feel his ability to feed might actually be really useful for the type of runners we have. Sampey is ok, Notte reminds me of Neil Balme minus about 30 kgs, Morton knows how to use it brilliantly. Id be picking the WA boys as well.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Gordon Bennett on July 11, 2007, 05:25:29 PM

Any thoughts GB on the youngest Selwood? Apparently below Joel at Geelong but up there with his other two older brothers.
My feeling is that if you draft him you will get a sure bet AFL player.
He looks accomplished. No champ, but will play in your best 22 on a regular basis.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Gordon Bennett on July 11, 2007, 05:31:07 PM
You could build a 10 year defence with Pears, Myers and Rance. Masten has nice hands and I feel his ability to feed might actually be really useful for the type of runners we have. Sampey is ok, Notte reminds me of Neil Balme minus about 30 kgs, Morton knows how to use it brilliantly. Id be picking the WA boys as well.
I like Pears and Myers. Less keen on Rance.

If we had picks 1, 17 and 18, we could do a lot worse than pick Kreuzer, Maric and Pears/Myers.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 11, 2007, 05:37:56 PM
don't need maric IMO

Kreuzer, Henderson, Selwood for me at this stage
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 11, 2007, 06:18:34 PM
Western Australia 20.11 (131)
South Australia    8.6 (54)

Goals:
WA: Palmer 3, Notte 3, Gourdis 3, McGinnity 2, Sampey 2, Morton 2, DeBoer, Yarrin, Browne, Ellard, Jacky.
SA: Staple 3, Hartlett, Wright, Carr, Jesson, Day.

Best:
WA: Naitanui, Browne, Morton, Palmer, Pears, Rance, Rich.
SA: Goodwood, Petrenko, Blesing, Day, Thompson, Stable.

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Vic Metro   17.8 (110)
Vic Country 9.8 (62)

Goals: Vic Metro: Maric 4, Grimes 3, Grant 3, Simpson, Polkinghorne, Kreuzer, Potts, Arrowsmith, Daniher, Cattapan. Vic Country: Gaylor 3, Kay 2, Selwood, Ford, Normington, Hall.

Best: Vic Metro: Hurley, Simpson, Cattapan, Farmer, Grimes, Kreuzer, Maric. Vic Country: McEvoy, Suban, Austin, Curnow, Kangars, Normington, Selwood.

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Larke Medal (Div 1 B&F): Cale Morton (WA)

MVP Division 1:
Vic Metro: Matthew Kreuzer
Vic Country: Nick Suban
South Aust: Levy Greenwood
Western Aust: Rhys Palmer
Title: U18 Champs: All-Australian team
Post by: one-eyed on July 11, 2007, 06:20:35 PM
The U18 All-Australian team is:

WA: Chris Masten, Rhys Palmer, Daniel Rich, Patrick McGinnity, David Myers, Alex Rance, Cale Morton, Nicholas Naitanui

Vic Metro: Matthew Kreuzer, Addam Maric, Michael Hurley, Jack Grimes

Vic Country: Nick Suban, Scott Selwood, Ben McEvoy

SA: Brad Ebert

NSW-ACT: Craig Bird, Taylor Walker

Tasmania: Aaron Joseph, Tom Collier, Aaron Cornelius

Northern Territory: Cyril Rioli

http://afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=47082
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 11, 2007, 06:44:38 PM
As would be expected WA dominated the AA
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2007, 06:48:41 PM
These seem to be the names bandied around the web and press to make up the top 30-35.

Matthew Kruezer (VM)
Trent Cotchin (VM)
Jack Grimes (VM)
Chris Masten (WA)
Lachlan Henderson (VC)
Bradley Ebert (SA)
Rhys Palmer (WA)
Cale Morton (WA)
Jarad Grant (VM)
Ben McEvoy (VC)

Marlan Motlop (NT)
Tom Bellchambers (TAS)
David Myers (WA)
Cyril Rioli (NT)
Tony Notte (WA)
Callan Ward (VM)
Tom Collier (TAS)
Pat Veszpremi (VM)
Scott Selwood (VC)
Tom McNamara (SA)

Adam Maric (VM)
James Wundke (SA)
Steven Gaertner (VM)
James Mulligan (QLD)
Brent Connelly (VC)
Tayte Pears (WA)
James Polkinghorne (VM)
Luke Potts (VM)
Ashley Arrowsmith (VM)
Scott Simpson (VM)

Mitchell Farmer (VM)
De Bruin (VM)
Dan McKenna (VC)
Hamish Hartlett (SA)
Tom Holmes (SA)
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 11, 2007, 06:54:48 PM
hartlett too young, gun mid next year. At this early stage looks like he is competing with Naitunai for a richmond guernsey next year  ;)  :rollin
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on July 11, 2007, 07:16:16 PM
I think a PP and 1st pick next year is what we need. NATANUI and HARTLETT are getting big wraps. In order to achieve this we have to go full bore youth now and load up on youth this year getting rid of senior players who only ever deliver cheap wins. There is dead set no point getting cheap wins this year and no point finishing with 10 wins next year.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Gordon Bennett on July 11, 2007, 07:50:46 PM
These seem to be the names bandied around the web and press to make up the top 30-35.

Matthew Kruezer (VM)
Trent Cotchin (VM)
Jack Grimes (VM)
Chris Masten (WA)
Lachlan Henderson (VC)
Bradley Ebert (SA)
Rhys Palmer (WA)
Cale Morton (WA)
Jarad Grant (VM)
Ben McEvoy (VC)

Marlan Motlop (NT)
Tom Bellchambers (TAS)
David Myers (WA)
Cyril Rioli (NT)
Tony Notte (WA)
Callan Ward (VM)
Tom Collier (TAS)
Pat Veszpremi (VM)
Scott Selwood (VC)
Tom McNamara (SA)

Adam Maric (VM)
James Wundke (SA)
Steven Gaertner (VM)
James Mulligan (QLD)
Brent Connelly (VC)
Tayte Pears (WA)
James Polkinghorne (VM)
Luke Potts (VM)
Ashley Arrowsmith (VM)
Scott Simpson (VM)

Mitchell Farmer (VM)
De Bruin (VM)
Dan McKenna (VC)
Hamish Hartlett (SA)
Tom Holmes (SA)
Personally, I'd add:
 Hurley VM
Daniher VM
Sullivan VM

and I also liked the look of Kriston Thompson SA
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 11, 2007, 08:07:13 PM
IIRC hurley is next year as well
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 11, 2007, 10:12:22 PM
Pics from the Vic Metro vs Vic Country match today:

http://aflphotos.com.au/search/results/?q=collection:2007%20NAB%20AFL%20Under%2018%20Championships%20-%20Vic%20Country%20v%20Vic%20Metro%20(LC) (http://aflphotos.com.au/search/results/?q=collection:2007%20NAB%20AFL%20Under%2018%20Championships%20-%20Vic%20Country%20v%20Vic%20Metro%20(LC))
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 12, 2007, 05:30:31 AM
(http://realfooty.com.au/ffximage/2007/07/11/wbFOOTYsandgroper.jpg)
Chris Masten

Sandgropers new kings of juniors
Emma Quayle | July 12, 2007

IN PAST years, two types of teams have turned up to the AFL's under-18 championships. There have been teams filled with talented, draftable players who haven't been able to win games.

Then there have been squads filled with less gifted types, who the recruiters have been less keen to see, but who have come together much better and won.

This year, Western Australia did a little bit of both. In 2006, it lost all three matches at the national carnival, having entered with the most highly rated team. Still, it had 16 players make AFL lists come draft time.

This year, its squad was considered less talented than the Vic Metro line-up, but had eight players make the All-Australian squad and won all three games by large margins. A 77-point win over South Australia at Casey Fields yesterday clinched the title.

Cale Morton won the Larke Medal as the best division one player, one vote ahead of teammate Rhys Palmer. After dominating the first two games, Palmer has made sure clubs will keep an eye on him for the rest of the year.

Morton, Chris Masten and David Myers will be snapped up reasonably early in the draft, with fellow All-Australians Patrick McGinnity and Alex Rance enhancing their own chances and Daniel Rich and Nick Naitanui becoming two to watch for next year. Morton is the younger brother of West Coast player Mitch and Hawthorn's Jarryd, an agile 192-centimetre player who can fill almost any spot on the ground.

Vic Metro was afflicted with the problem WA once had, if not to the same extent. After being thumped by WA in their first match, the Victorians responded with two wins, their eight-goal victory over Vic Country leaving them in second place overall.

They had four members of their highly rated squad make the All-Australian team — Matthew Kreuzer, Addam Maric, captain Jack Grimes and Michael Hurley, who held down full-back throughout the carnival, but is not old enough to be drafted this season.

The West Australians' win was their first since the likes of Paul Hasleby, Darren Glass, Adam Hunter, Joel Corey, Chance Bateman and Leon Davis played in their 1999 title.

They won in 1985, with a team featuring John Worsfold, Peter Sumich, Guy McKenna, Scott Watters, Paul Peos, Chris Lewis and Chris Waterman, and AFL talent manager Kevin Sheehan expects a similar number of AFL players to emerge from the current group.

"We always emphasise that this championship is about two things — trying to win the title but about ensuring everyone who has a chance to get drafted or make the AFL is given every opportunity," he said.

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/sandgropers-new-kings-of-juniors/2007/07/11/1183833599055.html
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 12, 2007, 05:34:02 AM
(http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5563512,00.jpg) 
2008 Prospect: WA's Nicholas Naitanui takes a strong mark.

WA midfield pick of crop
12 July 2007   Herald Sun
Gareth Trickey

VICTORIAN clubs are expected to look interstate for the next crop of AFL midfielders.

Two recruiting managers at yesterday's national under-18 championships at Casey Fields, Cranbourne, emphasised the gap between the midfields of Victoria's two under-18 sides and that of Western Australia.

Melbourne recruiting manager Craig Cameron and Geelong's Stephen Wells said the biggest talking point to come out this year's titles was the dominance of WA's midfield.

"I think there is a lack of midfielders outside of WA," Cameron said.

"There's a fair number of talls but I'm not sure there is a lot of pace across the teams."

Wells said AFL clubs preferred to take a broad view of the under-18 competition this early in the year and had not compared the strengths and weaknesses of this year's players with previous years.

"Our job is to know all the players we think are potential AFL players and all the different positions (they can play)," Wells said. "Later on in the year we will assess exactly what our needs are."

AFL talent manager Kevin Sheehan said the strength of the ruckmen and medium-sized midfielders this year compensated for a lack of depth among teams.

He said the under-18 national championship served as a preview of what was on offer at this year's AFL draft camp.

"I think there is no doubt the medium midfielders and ruckmen are as good as any other year," Sheehan

"There might not be some of the key-position players, but it ebbs and flows. Some years you might have a lot of tall defenders or a lot of forwards."

WA confirmed its status as the premier under-18 team this year with a win against South Australia yesterday in the Division 1 grand final.

WA controlled the game from the first bounce to win by 77 points, 20.11 (131) to 8.6 (54).

Rhys Palmer was awarded most valuable player for Western Australia.

Teammate Cale Morton, brother of Hawthorn's Jarryd and West Coast's Mitch, claimed the Larke Medal for the Division 1 best-and-fairest.

Vic Metro beat Vic County by 48 points in their intrastate hitout, 17.8 (110) to 9.8 (62). Northern Knights ruckman Matthew Kreuzer was the best for Vic Metro and North Ballarat's Nick Suban was named the most valuable player for Vic Country.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22059292%255E19742,00.html
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Gordon Bennett on July 12, 2007, 09:04:05 AM
IIRC hurley is next year as well
You're right. Too young by a month.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 12, 2007, 06:00:07 PM
I think a PP and 1st pick next year is what we need. NATANUI and HARTLETT are getting big wraps. In order to achieve this we have to go full bore youth now and load up on youth this year getting rid of senior players who only ever deliver cheap wins. There is dead set no point getting cheap wins this year and no point finishing with 10 wins next year.
The problem is could the club afford another season like this year. The pressure for change within the footy dept would be immense. Financially we aren't out of the woods yet and there may be a dip in membership numbers next year if we again fail to win any games early on. 

In any case the AFL may change the draft rules again if Carlton ends up with the first pick despite not finishing last.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 12, 2007, 06:07:34 PM
These seem to be the names bandied around the web and press to make up the top 30-35.

Matthew Kruezer (VM)
Trent Cotchin (VM)
Jack Grimes (VM)
Chris Masten (WA)
Lachlan Henderson (VC)
Bradley Ebert (SA)
Rhys Palmer (WA)
Cale Morton (WA)
Jarad Grant (VM)
Ben McEvoy (VC)

Marlan Motlop (NT)
Tom Bellchambers (TAS)
David Myers (WA)
Cyril Rioli (NT)
Tony Notte (WA)
Callan Ward (VM)
Tom Collier (TAS)
Pat Veszpremi (VM)
Scott Selwood (VC)
Tom McNamara (SA)

Adam Maric (VM)
James Wundke (SA)
Steven Gaertner (VM)
James Mulligan (QLD)
Brent Connelly (VC)
Tayte Pears (WA)
James Polkinghorne (VM)
Luke Potts (VM)
Ashley Arrowsmith (VM)
Scott Simpson (VM)

Mitchell Farmer (VM)
De Bruin (VM)
Dan McKenna (VC)
Hamish Hartlett (SA)
Tom Holmes (SA)
Personally, I'd add:
Hurley VM
Daniher VM
Sullivan VM

and I also liked the look of Kriston Thompson SA
Thanks GB and bluey. Taking away Hurley and Hartlett who are ineligible for this year's draft, that leaves just 37 names. If we end up with say picks 2, 18, 20, 36 ... we'll only scrape into the third round of the draft before looking at a Silvester or Neville at pick 50 say. We need to hold onto our PP.

Shame about Naitanui. In that pic his hands make the footy look like one of those little kid size one.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 12, 2007, 06:37:49 PM
regardless, naitunai (correct spelling?) is still a project type.

If he was available this year I wouldn't take him (kicking action not perfect, still has plenty to learn about positioning around the ground, still very raw). A year is a long time, and next year he may be a gun prospect
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: one-eyed on July 13, 2007, 02:50:42 AM
Pics from WA vs SA

http://aflphotos.com.au/search/results/?q=collection:2007%20NAB%20AFL%20Under%2018%20Championships%20-%20Western%20Australia%20v%20South%20Australia%20(LC) (http://aflphotos.com.au/search/results/?q=collection:2007%20NAB%20AFL%20Under%2018%20Championships%20-%20Western%20Australia%20v%20South%20Australia%20(LC))
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 13, 2007, 03:40:35 AM
regardless, naitunai (correct spelling?) is still a project type.

If he was available this year I wouldn't take him (kicking action not perfect, still has plenty to learn about positioning around the ground, still very raw). A year is a long time, and next year he may be a gun prospect
A bit like JON eh :shh

The aflphotos pic of Naitunai easily out-reaching his SA opponent in the ruck is freaky  :gobdrop
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 13, 2007, 01:09:54 PM
perhaps, but if you were to see JON pre-drafting he was actually pretty good, don't know why his skills have gone down hill. prob down on confidence
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 13, 2007, 02:22:06 PM
perhaps, but if you were to see JON pre-drafting he was actually pretty good, don't know why his skills have gone down hill. prob down on confidence
Even if confidence is to blame it's then a massive drop off to what you'd expect in terms of skills and decision making from a first round draftee. Maybe against kids in junior footy JON may have gotten away with it. More time and space especially in WA footy.

I can see why JON was drafted as there's heaps of upside to his game outside of his kicking and decision making. He's also currently lacking match-fitness due to missing the whole preseason. However kids with suspect kicking and decision making should not go first round. It wasn't just Richmond either that considered JON an early pick. Every single phantom draft had him in their first round selections. Peterson was pick 60 (granted different draft) and that's where IMO JON should have been picked up.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on July 13, 2007, 02:36:23 PM
Natanui would kick 80 goals a year at full forward standing on peoples heads taking grabs in the goalsquare, before having a run around the ground. Kreuzer in 2007 and Natanui in 2008 and RFC will have 2 stars.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 13, 2007, 05:01:47 PM
Natanui would kick 80 goals a year at full forward standing on peoples heads taking grabs in the goalsquare, before having a run around the ground. Kreuzer in 2007 and Natanui in 2008 and RFC will have 2 stars.
His AIS/draft camp results would be incredible for vertical leap.

Sadly standing on people's heads is a dying art in AFL footy.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Harry on July 18, 2007, 05:38:28 PM
People need to get over this notion that great athletes make great players.  Yes Natanui is a great athlete but he struggles with the basics of football.  he's young and he might learn but give me a natural footballer anyday.  I just want us to recruit natural smart footballers who are not slugs.

Agree with MT about not choosing a ruckman with the first pick.  Kruezer has too much Josh Fraser's about him for my liking. 

I've watched the WA v VM game a few times now.  People dismissing Palmer may live to regret this.  He is a pure, smart, instinctive footballers who can cut you apart.  He is brilliant in close and dangerous in space.  Ignore the reports that he's slow and one sided - that's all crap.  Yes he uses his left alot but he's good enough to get to his left when most others can't.  A Shannon Grant type with more flair and spunk

Masten is a pure inside type.  If we lack inside mids and are desperate for them then we should seriously look at him.  He is at every contest, positions himself perfectly and can read the play, gather and dispose to a very high level.  He is a posession machine who makes the right decisions in tight and would take alot of heat off Foley.  A Kane Cornes type that will always have high posession numbers.

Alot of hype about Morton but I'm not convinced.  Great kick, great mark, good size.  But doesn't win his own ball and needs to be fed.  Not a true inside mid and not a true key position.  Will be great at a club with these 2 positions covered but we need the foundation work first before we can consider someone like him.  Goddard like.

Rance is the ultimate full back we've been crying out for.  194cm, fast, strong, agile and good skills.  Spitting image to Simmonds appearace wise.  Big enough to play on monsters and quick and agile enough to play on the quicker ff's.  Would seriously consider him at pick 1 coz he won't last till pick 17.  But do you recruit a full back at 1 or 2?

Pears is very impressive and was surprised at his height of 192cm's because of his speed and agility.  Great at spoiling and mopping up from his own spoil.  If we don't get Rance we should seriously consider him at 17.

Kruezer - good, great, can see where the hype is coming from.  But a ruck at 1?  Big question.  think inside mids and key backs are more urgent.

Cotchin - had a shoulder injury and was dissapointing. Great TAC reports but it bothers me he can't shake a tag.  Do we need another Deledio?

There is definately alot of talent in that WA squad and wouldn't mind if we picked up 6 kids from there.

Some other kids I like that we can look at with mid picks -
WA - Gourdis, McGinnity, Ellard, Myers
VM - Simpson,

Later picks -
WA - Garlett, Jackey
VM - Polkinghorne, Sullivan.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 18, 2007, 06:14:58 PM
good summary HH, pretty much spot on  :clapping

I wouldn't mind Kreuzer, he is a very very good player. Holds his own in the ruck, but absolutely kills it around the ground. Racks up huge numbers, good kick, very mobile.

My number 1 at this stage.

If we can upgrade our PP to a 7-14 pick and pick up McEvoy, i will be wanting Cotchin or Masten at no.1

Although had a sub-par champs still rate him very highly. My only question on Masten is his kicking and burst speed. Pretty good speed over longer distances and a great tank. Just lacks that speed to quickly burn out away from contests. Kicking is very good over shorter distances (<40 m) but hit and miss and lacks penetration over longer distances
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on July 18, 2007, 06:59:31 PM
good summary HH, pretty much spot on  :clapping
Ditto. Well said Harry  :clapping.

Ending up with pick 2 may be a blessing. Keeping hold of our priority pick is the priority (excuse the pun). We need to find another first round pick preferably in the top 10.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on July 19, 2007, 09:13:50 AM
Agree with MT about not choosing a ruckman with the first pick.  Kruezer has too much Josh Fraser's about him for my liking. 

I've watched the WA v VM game a few times now.  People dismissing Palmer may live to regret this.  He is a pure, smart, instinctive footballers who can cut you apart.  He is brilliant in close and dangerous in space.  Ignore the reports that he's slow and one sided - that's all crap.  Yes he uses his left alot but he's good enough to get to his left when most others can't.  A Shannon Grant type with more flair and spunk

Alot of hype about Morton but I'm not convinced.  Great kick, great mark, good size.  But doesn't win his own ball and needs to be fed.  Not a true inside mid and not a true key position.  Will be great at a club with these 2 positions covered but we need the foundation work first before we can consider someone like him.  Goddard like.

Rance is the ultimate full back we've been crying out for.  194cm, fast, strong, agile and good skills.  Spitting image to Simmonds appearace wise.  Big enough to play on monsters and quick and agile enough to play on the quicker ff's.  Would seriously consider him at pick 1 coz he won't last till pick 17.  But do you recruit a full back at 1 or 2?

Wouldnt surprise me if Kreuzer or Morton is picked by us at our first pick. I understand Morton is well liked at Punt Rd.

Rance is the player I most want from this draft. Have said it for months and will continue to say, he looks like the type of player we can turn into a Full Back. To get him we need an upgrade- I would be doing whatever I could to get the pick to get him.

Palmer shouldnt be on the radar for us. Hes overated by many in my opinion. Only a one sided player, not overly quick, a dime a dozen type player in the AFL.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 19, 2007, 04:27:50 PM
Morton although a fantastic talent, is not what Richmond are crying out for.

what we need ATM is an inside mid, not one who is a classy finisher but can't win his own ball.

Masten is the one i'd be looking at over in WA for our 1st pick
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Ramps on July 19, 2007, 04:44:02 PM
I like Mastens use of the footy by hand. I get the feeling he could allow the deledios of this world to really shine, the problem is we have so many holes and not enough picks. we are a rabble at the moment.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on July 19, 2007, 05:04:01 PM
I personally don't mind Masten, gut-busting runner, makes it to so many contests. Fantasticly clean hands and has the composure to extract the ball with class.

As you said Ramps, by hand he is fine and I have no qualms.

Only flaws are IMO long-kicking and acceleration.

Short-kicking is actually rather good IMO, but kicking long is very hit and miss. Firstly lacks penetration, and this affects his accuracy.

I hear he is a junior champ at 400 and 800 m. And from what I have seen beyond 10 or so metres, he speed is pretty good. But it is the first couple of steps that have me questioning him. In terms of foot speed rather like Marc Murphy, so if Murphy can hide this flaw then Masten probably could.

BTW, a poster on PRE by the name of LukeHodge15 reckons that Masten may actually slide to our current PP pick  :o Would be brilliant if it happened. But this could quite possibly happen. Read some posts last year on BF that he is a bit of a party boy and likes the grog (don't quote me though). Connors allegedly is similar and he slid, so Masten may be a chance to slide, although not as far because the depth of this year's draft is no where near as good as last.


Rance looks like a good prospect, but if we managed on upgrade to a pick around 10, and Rance, Henderson and McEvoy were available. In terms of my preferences it would be McEvoy>Henderson>Rance
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Harry on August 08, 2007, 10:05:07 AM
We should seriously look at Masten with our first pick.  He is very good with his hands in close and has great smarts.  Nathan Foley would benefit from having Masten alongside him because at the moment he is the only player opposition teams put a heavy tag on.  Having another classy extractor will release Foley who would be even more damaging than he already is.  The other benefits of getting Masten would be (a) we can turn over the likes of Tuck and Johnson quicker along with their associated clangers, and (b) it would help the outside types of Tambling, Deledio, JON, Casserly, Meyer etc with cleaner and more effective clearance work.  It's a ripple effect where the first ripple is created by the classy extractors.  Hawthorn looked a shadow of itself without Mitchell.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Tigermonk on August 08, 2007, 02:02:35 PM
Blaszer from Gippsland Power would be one of my picks he's under the radar a bit & could be a huge pickup from 30 to 50 for any club
Played senior football for trafalgar at young age & continues to rise to the next levels
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: bluey_21 on August 08, 2007, 06:16:03 PM
Blaszer from Gippsland Power would be one of my picks he's under the radar a bit & could be a huge pickup from 30 to 50 for any club
Played senior football for trafalgar at young age & continues to rise to the next levels

what type of player is he
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: Gordon Bennett on August 08, 2007, 06:21:15 PM
Blaszer from Gippsland Power would be one of my picks he's under the radar a bit & could be a huge pickup from 30 to 50 for any club
Played senior football for trafalgar at young age & continues to rise to the next levels
What about Jackson Hall? I saw him play, and he's a nice size for an AFL wingman.
Title: Re: NAB AFL U18 National Championships 2007
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2007, 05:48:51 PM
We should seriously look at Masten with our first pick.  He is very good with his hands in close and has great smarts.  Nathan Foley would benefit from having Masten alongside him because at the moment he is the only player opposition teams put a heavy tag on.  Having another classy extractor will release Foley who would be even more damaging than he already is.  The other benefits of getting Masten would be (a) we can turn over the likes of Tuck and Johnson quicker along with their associated clangers, and (b) it would help the outside types of Tambling, Deledio, JON, Casserly, Meyer etc with cleaner and more effective clearance work.  It's a ripple effect where the first ripple is created by the classy extractors.  Hawthorn looked a shadow of itself without Mitchell.
If we don't get first pick then, yeah Harry, Masten is one to look at. I know Cotchin was carrying a shoulder injury in the U18 Champs and we all know who was the last early pick not to go No 1 due to concerns about his shoulders but we really need a genuine ballwinner or two at centre clearances to go with Foley.