One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Ramps on November 22, 2007, 05:01:09 PM
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Craigieburn lol
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22803069-661,00.html
Pity they were asleep at Punt Rd during the Waverley Park development, we could be where Hawthorn is now instead of heading to no mans land out in Craigieburn. Just had a look at google maps to see how to get there lol ... the only thing it didnt say was ... hang a left and end up at the moon.
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You may find this could be a new home for Coburg with Richmond using it during the summer months for pre-season.
For the record Ramps, Craigieburn and its surrounding areas have exploded over the last few years.
Access to the area via freeways etc is now very good also, it is only approx 30min from the city on a good run.
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Craigeburn will be getting a new station (and Roxburgh Park) shortly as part of the extension of the Broady line. It's a fast growing area but it's still away from many of our supporters in the south and eastern suburbs.
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Maybe they'll extend with a monorail because trains at left Broady overnight are up on bricks by the morning.
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The Craigieburn extension opened up about a month ago MT ;D
Both stations are fully operational.
I dont believe Richmond will train there very often during the season anyway.
I am in the Northern suburbs so it will be close to me :thumbsup
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I am actually attending the Breakfast next week, i will be able to give a full run down of any announcement about the new development.
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The Craigieburn extension opened up about a month ago MT ;D
Both stations are fully operational.
Doh! Guess who now lives on the other side of town TA :wallywink lol
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You may find this could be a new home for Coburg with Richmond using it during the summer months for pre-season.
For the record Ramps, Craigieburn and its surrounding areas have exploded over the last few years.
Access to the area via freeways etc is now very good also, it is only approx 30min from the city on a good run.
The club has to ensure that it doesnt just hand over ownership of the Sth Eastern suburbs to Hawthorn. Craigieburn maybe a good development and it might be a growing area, but the club has to grow its position in the South Eastern suburbs from Ashwood right out past Knox and Wantirna and all areas in between. Thats just my opinion thats all.
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While I agree with that Ramps, we still have the Wantirna Club and our family day at Jells park and training at Punt Rd or Gosch's paddock doesn't do much for promoting ourselves in the Eastern suburbs anyway. If Craigeburn is a bigger training ground with a better surface then it should benefit us on-field which is the best way of holding and gaining fans everywhere.
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A Craigieburn development could be good - especially If the club invests in a profitable pub with 90-100 gaming machines in it in the area. I could see it as a decent complete project which would benefit the club going forward, if the club wants to develop that area fair enough, but do it properly, have a training venue, stick coburg on it, have the pub and the machines - thats fair enough, but as a Richmond person, theres no way I want my club peeing up against the wall, the decades of support weve got from the Sth East. We should have gone to war with Hawthorn in the Sth East and we are now behind the eight ball. I dont know if we can establish a "3rds" or "4ths" by aligning with clubs in the South East who play in local comps, but I reckon we should be doing more.
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A Craigieburn development could be good - especially If the club invests in a profitable pub with 90-100 gaming machines in it in the area. I could see it as a decent complete project which would benefit the club going forward, if the club wants to develop that area fair enough, but do it properly, have a training venue, stick coburg on it, have the pub and the machines
Agree Ramps. Given all this needs council approval then I presume we're not just asking for an oval to use. For proper AFL training facilities you need decent changerooms etc plus benefit the local community. At Vic Park the players needed to change under the Sherrin grandstand like they were U10s ::) while at Gosch's paddock they needed to walk from Punt Rd Oval across the railway overpass.
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Richmond moving to Craigieburn
Herald-Sun | Sam Edmund | November 23, 2007
THE Saints are heading to Frankston and now the Tigers are eyeing Craigieburn.
Richmond is expected to oversee the development of a top quality ground in Melbourne's outer north for training and practice matches in a move that has thrilled locals.
A lack of access to Punt Rd Oval during cricket season and a club push to become part of the community have prompted the 25km move up the Hume Highway.
An announcement could be made by AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou next Friday when he speaks at a Hume City Council business breakfast.
Richmond will maintain its administration and player facilities at Punt Rd, with its home of nearly 100 years due for a major renovation.
Tigers chief executive Stephen Wright said the plan was about becoming more involved at grassroots level.
"We're looking to grow the Richmond brand in the northern suburbs so we have had discussions about how we can get involved," Mr Wright said.
Hume City mayor Gary Jungwirth, a Richmond fan, was excited at the prospect of the yellow and black preparing for battle in his region.
"I think any growing municipality with so many young families would like to have the opportunity to see top quality sport," Cr Jungwirth said.
"It's absolutely exciting and we're hoping, but there hasn't been a final determination."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22806080-2862,00.html
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We are in the box seat here.
Craigieburn has stuff all in regards to entertainment.
All they have is the sporting club at the golf course.
A new pub/club at the new oval run by us would be a huge revenue source.
In regards to getting council support, as the article says the current mayor is a mad Richmond supporter.
Add to that the new CEO of Hume Council is even more one eyed tigers than the mayor and we should be sweet. :thumbsup :shh
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And fits in nicely with our tri-affiliation of Richmond-Coburg-Calder.
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Tigers roar
Hume Star
By Mark Murray
27th November 2007 11:06:08 AM
CRAIGIEBURN is set to be infiltrated by yellow and black as early as next year, with the Richmond Football Club poised to set up a training base in the outer northern suburb.
In a massive fillip for the area, the Tigers are expected to announce the construction of a summer training centre in the Hume municipality.
It also will be used for practice matches, giving the area an AFL presence.
Richmond’s Punt Rd headquarters is overrun by Pura Cup and Premier Cricket commitments in the summer months, which is prompting the innovative push north along the Hume Highway.
Bulla resident and Upper House Liberal MP Bernie Finn, a life-long Richmond supporter, said the news had the city of Hume buzzing.
“Excited is not the word,” Mr Finn said.
“I think it is going to be of enormous benefit to the City of Hume, and Craigieburn in particular, and it is going to bring a lot to our part of Melbourne.
“And for those of us who are life-long Tiger fans and who just love the club, we are beside ourselves with excitement at the moment.”
The move could see AFL superstars such as Matthew Richardson and Nathan Brown make Craigieburn their second home in the pre-season.
AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou is expected to confirm the news at a Hume City Council business breakfast on Friday.
Mr Finn agreed it was an innovative idea by the Tigers and said he hoped the City of Hume got behind it, if it became official.
“I have been a Hume resident for a long time now, so to have the Richmond Football Club set up a home away from home in our neck of the woods is incredibly exciting,” Mr Finn said.
“Anybody even taking the slightest interest can see the benefits it is going to bring to everyone involved.
The Tigers won football’s most unwanted prize this season, finishing 16th and collecting the wooden spoon.
Punt Rd will remain the club’s nerve centre, and is also set to undergo a major redevelopment.
“Clubs need a second venue and it’s something we’ve been investigating for a while,” Richmond football director Greg Miller said of the Craigieburn concept.
“It’s a back-up venue, we’re not moving. This will be used for training and practice matches and that sort of thing."
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Just get a pub with the machines in the area and then I can accept it as a worthwhile financial project.
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“Clubs need a second venue and it’s something we’ve been investigating for a while,” Richmond football director Greg Miller said of the Craigieburn concept.
“It’s a back-up venue, we’re not moving. This will be used for training and practice matches and that sort of thing."
It's just not the cricket but Punt Rd Oval is too short for trial games and scratch matches when actual games are played on big grounds. Unlike interstate clubs we can't train on the MCG so there's a need for a bigger training oval.
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i have family over there ... a bit far for me to get to when i see them ... but worth it now ...
"training base" ... it is a good idea ... but it is further away from MCG/Punt Road ... as we know ...
and players have to travel further too ...
Trent Cotchin is fine with that ... Wollert is near Craigieburn ...
will it be used only for pre-season ??? ...
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Well on a positive note Craigeburn is closer for me at least! Instead of a 9 hour drive its 8 hours and 30 minutes. :thumbsup :lol
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I remember that ground.
Well sort of.
I cramped in both legs because of the mud, and ended up with concussion from some behind the play incident. I do remember that is was difficlut to fit the 20 blokes into the 2 showers in the visitors change rooms.
Oh the good old days.
I pressume its sort of been fixed up form 25 years ago.
I think is a good move for the Tigers and can see the possible tie with three levels of teams. If they can get gaming place to go with it well it could be a gold mine for us as the area is growning fast. As with Tiga, its closer but still 2 1/2 hours away for me.
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Wasnt this going be announced today?
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10 mill grant for the development of Craigieburn oval, kudos to Steve and Gary.
This is an important step in the upward direction.
P.S...gotta be happy with those draft picks, bring on the PSD and Rookie draft :whistle
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bring on the PSD and Rookie draft :whistle
Any surprises rogerd3? :pray
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10 mill grant for the development of Craigieburn oval, kudos to Steve and Gary.
This is an important step in the upward direction.
That's fantastic news. Well done RFC :clapping :thumbsup.
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Heres the plans for Craigieburn. Looks like a nice facility, hopefully the club doesnt have to pay exhorbitant rents to use it. Still say if theres no gaming machine venue then it hasnt been done as well as it should have, a profitable gaming venue would make it a very good project indeed.
http://richmondfc.com.au/Portals/0/tigers_docs/DP10%20masterplan%2001%2010%2007.pdf
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The announcement was made this morning at approx. 9am at the Hume City Council Business Breakfast.
Wasnt much discussed about the proposal, basically just a signing of a MOU by the AFL, RFC, Hume, AFL Vic and Stockland.
This is a great result for us as we arent paying for it, couldnt do much more than that.
RFC was represented this morning by Steve Wright, Trent Jacobs and so other bloke who i didnt know or could get close enough to read his name tag.
:gotigers
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Heres the plans for Craigieburn. Looks like a nice facility, hopefully the club doesnt have to pay exhorbitant rents to use it. Still say if theres no gaming machine venue then it hasnt been done as well as it should have, a profitable gaming venue would make it a very good project indeed.
http://richmondfc.com.au/Portals/0/tigers_docs/DP10%20masterplan%2001%2010%2007.pdf
Cheers Ramps.
It says on the plans that the main oval has MCG dimensions. Good to hear :thumbsup
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The club needs to buy melways for the players lol, saw that the 2 players who went arrived late lol.
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maybe the new sponsor idiot Smith can supply all players with a SAT NAV
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Can tell you that the Guest speaker, one Andrew Demetreiou(whatever the spelling is) was late. He went to the Council offices instead of The Meadows Greyhound complex where the breakfast was held.
All Richmond guys were on time this morning.
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why cant they send st.duds up north and bring the mighty tigers to frankston. look what they did to moorabin (tip rats) :help
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The club needs to buy melways for the players lol, saw that the 2 players who went arrived late lol.
Buy a Melways for supporters too. Where exactly is it in Craigieburn?
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Tigers set up northern base
01 December 2007 Herald Sun
Gareth Trickey
THE Tigers are moving north to Craigieburn.
Richmond yesterday announced a commitment to support a $10 million recreational facility at Craigieburn's Highlands community, 27km north of Melbourne's CBD.
The project includes a large ground with grandstand, a smaller secondary oval and a rectangular multi-purpose playing field.
Richmond will not fund the project, but has agreed to train at the proposed ground "regularly" during the pre-season and "periodically" during the competition season.
The main oval will also host Richmond intra-club practice matches, VFL games and community football clinics from November 2008.
The announcement comes just six weeks after Richmond unveiled plans for a multi-million-dollar redevelopment of Punt Rd Oval.
Tiger coach Terry Wallace said the club would maintain its player facilities at Punt Rd, despite the new commitment to Craigieburn.
He said the proposed oval at Craigieburn would provide his players with a suitable and safe playing surface during the summer months.
"We've always had the problem of cricket on Punt Rd and that goes right throughout the year," Wallace said.
"We had problems last year where, I think, certainly two or three players we lost in the pre-season period.
"Nathan Brown had a stress fracture and we had Troy Simmonds, who had a stress fracture, and Kent Kingsley, who was playing at the club at that stage, was injured as well.
"I think all those were stress-related injuries because we were on facilities that weren't up to standard."
Richmond's new home away from home is expected to strengthen the Tigers' support base in the expanding northern suburbs of Melbourne.
Wallace said the club's ties with Craigieburn would help protect it from suffering a similar fate to that of the Kangaroos. "You see St Kilda, who have announced they're moving down to Frankston. Hawthorn have got that area out in the eastern suburbs really to themselves," he said.
"I suppose the Kangaroos can't move west because the Bulldogs are there, they can't move north because Essendon are there, and we just can't afford to be in that situation ourselves."
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22850957%255E20322,00.html
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Tigers unveil new habitat
Miki Perkins | December 1, 2007 | The Age
AS COWS grazed in a nearby field and the sun baked the pink roofs of new houses nearby, Richmond unveiled plans for a $10 million second home in the outer-northern Melbourne suburb of Craigieburn.
Together with the AFL, Hume City Council and Stockland property developers, the Tigers will support the construction of the multi-purpose recreation centre that boasts an MCG-sized playing field, two additional sporting fields, a grandstand and meeting rooms.
A presence in Craigieburn, where new housing estates have engulfed old farm land, will help boost support for the Tigers in one of the state's biggest growth corridors.
Tigers chief executive Steve Wright said the move reflected the changing nature of society.
"In the old days, it was mum and dad and three kids living in a little cottage in Richmond — that's all changed," he said.
Wright said Richmond would not fund the $10 million development but would provide support through partners and conduct activities at the site that would generate revenue in the community.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/tigers-unveil-new-habitat/2007/11/30/1196394624136.html
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Tigers set up northern base
01 December 2007 Herald Sun
Gareth Trickey
THE Tigers are moving north...
The main oval will also host Richmond intra-club practice matches, VFL games and community football clinics from November 2008.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22850957%255E20322,00.html
Is Coburg moving as well?
???
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If you loook at the plans...
http://richmondfc.com.au/Portals/0/tigers_docs/DP10%20masterplan%2001%2010%2007.pdf
...there is a school planned for right next door.
That's it I'm putting in for a transfer.
:cheers
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With the location of the new ground, you could drive from the city all the way there and only go through one set of traffic lights.
If anyone knows the new Craigieburn bypass well thats what you need to take all the way to the Amaroo Road exit and then you are basically there.
Just head straight across the Hume Hwy and onto Grand Blvd. When you cant go any further, you are there. :thumbsup
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If you loook at the plans...
http://richmondfc.com.au/Portals/0/tigers_docs/DP10%20masterplan%2001%2010%2007.pdf
...there is a school planned for right next door.
That's it I'm putting in for a transfer.
:cheers
Would stay at the school your at I reckon
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Why?
It looks like plans for a new school?
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Better off where you are
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Better off where you are
The extra travel would probably wear me down anyway.
Have you got a new job for next year or are the rumours wrong?
:shh
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I would be worried about the clientel you have too teach, lol
Answer is yes.
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I would be worried about the clientel you have too teach, lol
Answer is yes.
Craigieburn was all farms when I went to school (back in the sixties) out that way.
Must wander out for a look once the new ground is built.
and I have taught in similar areas before so the clientele wouldn't worry me.
Kids are kids anywhere and the harder the upbringing the more they appreciate teachers who care and are prepared to put the effort in.
8)
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Steven Wright was on 3aw today saying we've been looking at a new training venue since Plough came on board as coach. The Craigieburn option came up 6 months ago. Local clubs will use it during the footy season as we'll still be using Punt Rd mostly. It's mainly for summer and to give us a MCG size ground to train and play practice matches on.
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With the location of the new ground, you could drive from the city all the way there and only go through one set of traffic lights.
If anyone knows the new Craigieburn bypass well thats what you need to take all the way to the Amaroo Road exit and then you are basically there.
Just head straight across the Hume Hwy and onto Grand Blvd. When you cant go any further, you are there. :thumbsup
So it's around here on the google map TA?
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Craigieburn+victoria&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.580399,144.931083&spn=0.014829,0.025492&t=h&z=15&om=0 (http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Craigieburn+victoria&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.580399,144.931083&spn=0.014829,0.025492&t=h&z=15&om=0)
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Pretty close there MT, that image isnt recent.
If you look in your Melways it is Map 386 approx H/J 3 :thumbsup
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Pretty close there MT, that image isnt recent.
If you look in your Melways it is Map 386 approx H/J 3 :thumbsup
Cheers TA :thumbsup
It's a fair way from Craigieburn train station then although not too bad to get to from the South-Eastern suburbs by car.
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According to Google, itll take me 1hour and 5 minutes to get there.
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I would think it would take atleast 20-30 minutes to walk there from the train station, depending on your walking speed.
I can just see the time i am going to waste during work watching pre-season training :shh
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According to Google, itll take me 1hour and 5 minutes to get there.
Sounds about right for me too. Burke Rd, Chandler Hwy, Greensborough Rd, Metro Northern ring road or whatever it's called then Hume fwy and turn off at Amaroo Road exit onto Grand Blvd.
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we could all rent a mini bus and go up there as a group with beers in hand during the summer.
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You volunteering to drive, Ramps? :D
Someone has to so the rest of us can drink (and yahoo).
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According to Google, itll take me 1hour and 5 minutes to get there.
Sounds about right for me too. Burke Rd, Chandler Hwy, Greensborough Rd, Metro Northern ring road or whatever it's called then Hume fwy and turn off at Amaroo Road exit onto Grand Blvd.
Go over Westgate and then Ring Road
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You volunteering to drive, Ramps? :D
Someone has to so the rest of us can drink (and yahoo).
Im just the ideas man lol.
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Tiger move no bar to training
Moreland Leader
Cody Winnell
10Dec07
RICHMOND Football Club's move from training at Punt Rd Oval to Craigieburn is yet to have an impact on the AFL club's VFL affiliate Coburg Tigers.
Coburg general manager Ryan O'Connor had no comment on the move when he spoke with the Leader on Thursday, but said the VFL Tigers would continue pre-season training at Punt Rd Oval.
``There will be no change to our set-up at this stage. Pre-season will continue as normal,'' he said.
Mr O'Connor said he didn't have any further comment at this stage because Coburg hadn't officially discussed the move with its stakeholders or Richmond.
Meanwhile, Coburg's pre-season campaign was moving along nicely, Mr O'Connor said. He said new coach Jade Rawlings and his players were hoping to at least emulate what the Tigers achieved this year.
``He (Rawlings) is marshalling the troops. He's got them on track for hopefully similar success next season.''
Coburg finished third on the VFL home-and-away ladder this year before earning a Grand Final berth, where it was beaten by Geelong 17.24 (126) to 7.10 (52).
Those two teams will kick off season 2008 when they clash at Coburg on March 29.
http://www.morelandleader.com.au/article/2007/12/10/26708_cov_sports.html
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Stumbled across a Hume Weekly article from December. I don't remember it being reported in the Hun or Age at the time but apparently, once the Craigieburn facility is built, our RFC Family Days will be held out Craigieburn way.
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Tigers make Craigieburn their new, improved home
By Lance Jenkinson
Hume Weekly
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New habitat: Captain Kane Johnson, coach Terry Wallace and ruckman Troy Simmonds at the site. Picture: Anna Joske
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Mapped out: Steven Wright shows off plans for the Highlands Craigieburn recreation project.
DON'T be too alarmed if you see a Tiger on the prowl at your local shopping centre.
It will be harmless, approachable and might even stop to sign an autograph for you.
This is Tigerland - the second home of the Richmond Football Club.
In a landmark deal, the historic AFL club last week announced that it will call the city of Hume home.
The Tigers have committed to the growth of the Hume region after striking a joint venture with local council, the AFL, AFL Victoria and property developers Stockland to make the Craigieburn Highlands community their new den.
Richmond chief executive Steven Wright said the benefits for his club were enormous. He also promised the yellow-and-black army would immerse itself in the local community - making it a win-win for the club and the region as a whole.
The Tigers move into a new $10 million state-of-the-art recreational facility in Highlands Craigieburn in 12 months.
"In our view, there could not be a better location to promote both AFL and the Richmond Football Club than this city," Wright said.
The Tigers will spend most of their pre-season training sessions at their new base. The MCG-sized playing arena will be suitable for intra-club games and practice matches.
It also has the potential to house a Victorian Football League team.
Wright promised that the Tigers will be a community club. It won't profit without putting back into the Hume region, he said.
The Tigers want to have a stronghold on the local area and will leave no stone unturned in a bid to capture the minds and the hearts of the locals.
At the head of the list, the Tigers will conduct their family days in the region.
That is just the tip of the iceberg as the historic club makes itself accessible for the local community. Expect shopping centre appearances, Auskick clinics, and a presence in the schools and local youth groups.
"Just as important to the Richmond Football Club is our commitment as part of this proposal to work at a community level in Craigieburn and throughout all of Hume, one of the fastest growing corridors in Victoria," Wright said.
"It's a diverse municipality and gives us an opportunity to promote active and healthy lifestyles and the great indigenous game of Australian Rules football, which is about to celebrate its 150th birthday."
Wright said the Tigers' spiritual home is Punt Road Oval, in the shadows of the MCG, but some facilities at the former top-flight venue are inadequate for modern-day football.
The annual arm-wrestle with the cricket club and unavailability of the ground over summer meant the Tigers had to seek an alternate option.
The Tigers have not gone in half-baked - they seem serious about their role in the community and do not shy away from the benefits their club will reap in the process.
"When we saw the whole vision for the first time about six months ago, every part of our club was enthusiastic in its support for this project," Wright said.
"First, the outstanding playing surface, an MCG-sized ground and fantastic football facilities were what attracted the eyes of our football department.
"Many people realise while Punt Road Oval is, and will always remain our spiritual home, it suffers from a number of historical impediments including its size and summer access.
"[The move] will enable us to play intra-club games on a full-sized oval which thousands of supporters can come and watch and be involved."
Richmond coach Terry Wallace was smiling from ear to ear.
He said that last winter, the Tigers paid the price for their sub-standard facilities with a number of injury issues. He forecast significant use of the venue on a year-round basis - not just in the summertime.
"It will be fantastic for the football club," he said. "Training facilities are one of the greatest problems all clubs have been facing.
"To come out here and be able to expand - I see it as a bonus.
"As time goes on, this will be known as a Richmond area and when people can get close to the players, whether it be at shopping centres or coming down and watching them train or play practice games, that will grow the whole thing."
http://hume.yourguide.com.au/articles/1097993.html?src=topstories
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At the head of the list, the Tigers will conduct their family days in the region.
I would've thought you'd still hold a family day in the S/E suburbs where the majority of our supporters are?!
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If you look in your Melways it is Map 386 approx H/J 3 :thumbsup
The corner of Grand Blvd and Windrock Ave.
http://www.morelandleader.com.au/article/2008/01/28/28595_cov_sports.html
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Funding boost welcomed
richmondfc.com.au
10:57 AM Mon 19 May, 2008
Richmond Football Club CEO, Steven Wright has welcomed the announcement by Sport and Recreation Minister James Merlino to provide a $2.5 million boost to the Craigieburn Greenfield development.
“This funding will provide the Richmond Football Club with a second training venue and also enable our VFL aligned side, the Coburg Tigers, to train and play some of their matches at this new first class facility,” Mr Wright said.
Richmond Football Club’s state of the art second training facility has become closer to reality with total funding to date reaching $8.5 million. This will enable the Craigieburn site to:
- Develop an MCG size training ground with a world class playing surface;
- Build a new grandstand;
- Construct new change room and community facilities.
“This facility will be a great addition to the northern suburban sporting community and both Tiger clubs are looking forward to becoming involved with the success of the new development,” Mr Wright said.
“Our relationship with the Craigieburn Greenfield development will enable us to grow our supporter base in this new high growth population corridor. We thank the State Government for their continued support by ensuring football remains a focal point for the area,” Mr Wright said.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=59811
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“This funding will provide the Richmond Football Club with a second training venue and also enable our VFL aligned side, the Coburg Tigers, to train and play some of their matches at this new first class facility,” Mr Wright said.
“This facility will be a great addition to the northern suburban sporting community and both Tiger clubs are looking forward to becoming involved with the success of the new development,” Mr Wright said.
Seems Coburg will finally get a new grandstand by playing at Craigieburn and won't have to worry about dealing with cricket clubs :whistle. It'd be good if Coburg could also play some home games at Punt Rd when it is redeveloped prior to Richmond home games at the 'G. Having said that it was great having a Coburg curtainraiser actually at the 'G last Saturday :thumbsup.
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Coburg Tiger move angers council
Moreland Leader
Simon Craig
19May08
MORELAND Council is fuming over cash it spent backing VFL club the Coburg Tigers.
As Coburg's relocation to Craigieburn becomes all but a formality, Moreland councillor John Kavanagh lamented the tens of thousands of dollars spent in recent years trying to placate the Richmond feeder club.
Sport Minister James Merlino all but confirmed the move, reported in the Leader in January, during a visit to Craigieburn last week to announce the $2.5 million State Government contribution to the football training centre.
Mr Merlino said the facility will "bring VFL and perhaps even AFL football to the area, with the Coburg Tigers slated to train and play matches at the new oval".
"This funding will help to support the future of the VFL competition and reaffirm our reputation as the premier state football competition," Mr Merlino said. Cr Kavanagh said Moreland Council had "done everything possible to keep the Tigers in Coburg". It has slashed ground-usage charges, contributed $50,000 toward the construction of club offices and allowed the club to rename City Oval as part of its sponsorship deal, Cr Kavanagh said.
Fans will be "devastated" by the move, he said. "When you go along to those matches you see a lot of people that have supported them for years," he said. "The ring of outer metropolitan councils have been awash with money at the expense of the inner-ring councils."
Coburg general manager Ryan O'Connor was again reticent to talk about the move.
"Obviously the players and members heard about it," he said.
The Craigieburn football centre, corner Grand Blvd and Windrock Ave, will include a main oval as big as the MCG's and two additional sports fields, as well as a sports pavilion, grandstand and changerooms.
http://www.morelandleader.com.au/article/2008/05/19/35367_cov_news.html
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Seems a formality that Coburg will move now, it will be interesting to see how the old Coburg people react.
Maybe if they slowly play games there over the next few years they will try and soften them up.
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Coburg Tiger move angers council
Moreland Leader
Simon Craig
19May08
MORELAND Council is fuming over cash it spent backing VFL club the Coburg Tigers.
As Coburg's relocation to Craigieburn becomes all but a formality, Moreland councillor John Kavanagh lamented the tens of thousands of dollars spent in recent years trying to placate the Richmond feeder club.
http://www.morelandleader.com.au/article/2008/05/19/35367_cov_news.html
Lol, big cash for a council over "recent years". ::) :lol
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As Coburg's relocation to Craigieburn becomes all but a formality, Moreland councillor John Kavanagh lamented the tens of thousands of dollars spent in recent years trying to placate the Richmond feeder club.
http://www.morelandleader.com.au/article/2008/05/19/35367_cov_news.html
Lol, big cash for a council over "recent years". ::) :lol
lol. I'm sure that nobody else has benefited from that investment either. I'm sure the community has got no benefit from it what so ever. What did they do? Paint the change rooms?
Perhaps if they put in a few million dollars worth of work into the Coburg oval I'm sure it would be far more attractive to stay. Moreland sounds like a crap council.
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As Coburg's relocation to Craigieburn becomes all but a formality, Moreland councillor John Kavanagh lamented the tens of thousands of dollars spent in recent years trying to placate the Richmond feeder club.
http://www.morelandleader.com.au/article/2008/05/19/35367_cov_news.html
Lol, big cash for a council over "recent years". ::) :lol
lol. I'm sure that nobody else has benefited from that investment either. I'm sure the community has got no benefit from it what so ever. What did they do? Paint the change rooms?
Perhaps if they put in a few million dollars worth of work into the Coburg oval I'm sure it would be far more attractive to stay. Moreland sounds like a crap council.
Is the grandstand still in a mess since the fire a few years ago? I would've thought that would've been an urgent priority for any decent council to help out Coburg FC.
The State Government has put $2.5m towards the Craigieburn facilities yet $0 towards Coburg City Oval. That says a great deal to me.
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The bloke they have on SEN's VFL show was hinting Coburg will be playing out at Craigieburn within 2 years as part of the VFL expansion into the outer suburbs. All thanks to the $2.5m from the State Government.
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Hume Leader
Simon Craig
27May08
The Hume council budget ... also includes the council's contribution to the football training centre in Grand Blvd, Craigieburn. The centre will be used as a summer training base by AFL team the Richmond Tigers.
It is also likely to become the home ground of Richmond's VFL feeder team the Coburg Tigers and reigning TAC Cup premier Calder Cannons.
"The council is in a very strong financial position," Hume chief executive Domenic Isola said.
http://www.humeleader.com.au/article/2008/05/27/35917_hov_news.html
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Hope it works for us, as for me :banghead pain in the rrs getting to Coburg from mooroolbark let alone Craigewoopwoop 60.9 km (about 1 hour 19 mins).
May go to a preseason seniors game, but seconds forget it :banghead
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Phil Cleary is obviously not happy with Coburg looking to move to Craigieburn.
He appeared very vocal at the meeting of members last night down at the social club.
Stood up a couple of times and spoke at length and appeared very passionate.
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Wish we had the old reserves back, playing at the G before the game.
Memories :banghead
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Phil Cleary is obviously not happy with Coburg looking to move to Craigieburn.
He appeared very vocal at the meeting of members last night down at the social club.
Stood up a couple of times and spoke at length and appeared very passionate.
Play and train at Punt Rd please.
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Craigieburn is only 10-15 minutes from me so it will be great. Especially now that my son is really getting into his footy.
AFL are putting in half a mil for the project so they will want some VFL footy to be played there thats for sure.
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Phil Cleary is obviously not happy with Coburg looking to move to Craigieburn.
He appeared very vocal at the meeting of members last night down at the social club.
Stood up a couple of times and spoke at length and appeared very passionate.
Play and train at Punt Rd please.
Hopefully once the redevelopment is finished we can get a few Coburg curtainraisers back to Punt Rd when we are playing at the 'G.
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I reckon it will bethe end of Coburg, dont blame Phil actually. and what would happen if RFC decides to go alone in the future??
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Feel for the Coburg diehards but the bottom line is they don't have enough supporters or support.
It's sad when you go to grounds like Coburg you can see and feel what it would of been like in years gone by but alas no more.
It's the ever changing footy landscape
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Coburg wont be Coburg if they are in Craigeburn
And I dont reckon the Moreland Council have done the right thing either, am only guessing though
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Without the RFC Coburg would've been dead long ago. The Moreland council appear from afar to be useless incompetent idiots. Basically done nothing to help redevelop Coburg City oval even after the fire ???. I mean I have a mate who is vice-president of his local tennis club and he's been able to get a State Government grant towards upgrading the courts, water conservation etc. If a club volunteer with no experience is dealing with Government can score funding for his club then what have Moreland council been doing all these years for Coburg. Sweet bugger all by the sound of it. To me it says it all that out of the State Government money handed out this year, zip went to Coburg City Oval yet a few million went towards the Craigeburn development.
It costs around $500k to have a stand alone side so I don't see the RFC doing that just from a cost perspective. Plus the affiliation with Coburg also ties us with Calder which is a bonus. Aren't Calder going to be playing at Craigieburn?
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I did a google map search to see if there was any progress on the Craigieburn facility. I wonder if TFL or anyone else knows how it's going as this satelite image as is still pretty bare on the corner of Grand Blvd and Windrock Ave.
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Craigieburn+Victoria&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.578035,144.931533&spn=0.004226,0.01031&t=h&z=17 (http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Craigieburn+Victoria&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.578035,144.931533&spn=0.004226,0.01031&t=h&z=17)
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I did a google map search to see if there was any progress on the Craigieburn facility. I wonder if TFL or anyone else knows how it's going as this satelite image as is still pretty bare on the corner of Grand Blvd and Windrock Ave.
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Craigieburn+Victoria&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.578035,144.931533&spn=0.004226,0.01031&t=h&z=17 (http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Craigieburn+Victoria&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.578035,144.931533&spn=0.004226,0.01031&t=h&z=17)
I've got an update and it's not flash. I spoke to a burgers official at our bf and the council still haven't coughed up their dough. So therefore no movement at the station
Edit: fixed quote
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I did a google map search to see if there was any progress on the Craigieburn facility. I wonder if TFL or anyone else knows how it's going as this satelite image as is still pretty bare on the corner of Grand Blvd and Windrock Ave.
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Craigieburn+Victoria&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.578035,144.931533&spn=0.004226,0.01031&t=h&z=17 (http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Craigieburn+Victoria&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.578035,144.931533&spn=0.004226,0.01031&t=h&z=17)
hey MT , those google images were taken last summer so currency is a little out of date...
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Here's a melways' link
http://www.street-directory.com.au/sd_new/mapsearch.cgi?heading=&sortby=1&x=144.92693682996384&RegionID=47&y=-37.57487091287953&Suburb=Craigieburn&FrmStateID=1&StateID=1&SuburbID=11158&star=5&level=6&CouncilID=532&StreetName=Oakville%20Pl (http://www.street-directory.com.au/sd_new/mapsearch.cgi?heading=&sortby=1&x=144.92693682996384&RegionID=47&y=-37.57487091287953&Suburb=Craigieburn&FrmStateID=1&StateID=1&SuburbID=11158&star=5&level=6&CouncilID=532&StreetName=Oakville%20Pl)
These are the plans:
http://richmondfc.com.au/Portals/0/tigers_docs/DP10%20masterplan%2001%2010%2007.pdf
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Construction of the ground is well underway.
I will take some photos in the next week of what has been done so that they can be posted on here.
The turf will be instant so once it is layed it will be ready a month or so after that.
:gotigers
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Construction of the ground is well underway.
I will take some photos in the next week of what has been done so that they can be posted on here.
The turf will be instant so once it is layed it will be ready a month or so after that.
:gotigers
Photos would be great TFL, especially for those of us that are thousands of kms away :)
It will be great having a dedicated training facility that is the same dimensions of the MCG. Reckon this will help our gameplan no end on gameday.
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Construction of the ground is well underway.
I will take some photos in the next week of what has been done so that they can be posted on here.
The turf will be instant so once it is layed it will be ready a month or so after that.
:gotigers
Photos would be great TFL, especially for those of us that are thousands of kms away :)
It will be great having a dedicated training facility that is the same dimensions of the MCG. Reckon this will help our gameplan no end on gameday.
Also don't forget that in the plans is a re-model of Punt Rd to attain Telstra Dome dimensions. :)
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Construction of the ground is well underway.
I will take some photos in the next week of what has been done so that they can be posted on here.
The turf will be instant so once it is layed it will be ready a month or so after that.
:gotigers
Photos would be great TFL, especially for those of us that are thousands of kms away :)
It will be great having a dedicated training facility that is the same dimensions of the MCG. Reckon this will help our gameplan no end on gameday.
Also don't forget that in the plans is a re-model of Punt Rd to attain Telstra Dome dimensions. :)
So we're putting a lid on Punt Road :lol
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LOL TT. All we then need to do is add 50k seats and we'll have our own Tiger Dome.
I did a google map search to see if there was any progress on the Craigieburn facility. I wonder if TFL or anyone else knows how it's going as this satelite image as is still pretty bare on the corner of Grand Blvd and Windrock Ave.
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Craigieburn+Victoria&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.578035,144.931533&spn=0.004226,0.01031&t=h&z=17 (http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Craigieburn+Victoria&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.578035,144.931533&spn=0.004226,0.01031&t=h&z=17)
hey MT , those google images were taken last summer so currency is a little out of date...
Ta bj and welcome to OER :).
Looking forward to seeing the photos TFL :cheers. Hopefully more to see than a hole in the ground.
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LOL TT. All we then need to do is add 50k seats and we'll have our own Tiger Dome.
I did a google map search to see if there was any progress on the Craigieburn facility. I wonder if TFL or anyone else knows how it's going as this satelite image as is still pretty bare on the corner of Grand Blvd and Windrock Ave.
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Craigieburn+Victoria&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.578035,144.931533&spn=0.004226,0.01031&t=h&z=17 (http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Craigieburn+Victoria&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.578035,144.931533&spn=0.004226,0.01031&t=h&z=17)
hey MT , those google images were taken last summer so currency is a little out of date...
Ta bj and welcome to OER :).
Looking forward to seeing the photos TFL :cheers. Hopefully more to see than a hole in the ground.
no worries MT, a great forum here, well done
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Any updates from those who live nearby on how the Craigieburn facility is going?
March mentioned last week the Punt Rd development and the Indigenous centre should be completed by around mid-2010 but I didn't hear him say anything about Craigieburn.
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Many thanks to 'Tigers For Life' for the latest info and getting the pics :cheers :bow :thumbsup
The following pics are of the main oval. He doesn't think the second oval has been started yet. From the turf side of things it is a fantastic job that is being done according to a turf expert he knows. Apparently no expense is being spared and the ground will be top class.
At this stage it is thought the ground will be ready for use in March some time.
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It's early days of construction but it looks like it's coming along nicely. Hopefully the main oval is finished by March. That'll give us a few weeks to a month to train on a MCG sized playing surface prior to round 1.
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Does anyone know what there irrigation plan involves ?
Will they have water tanks or any other measures to maintain that any water shortage would have minimal effect on our ability to train ?
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By the look of it the ground seems to be the same shape as the mcg. Just wondering what the dimensions are? Looks tough from the photos to hit a six!
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By the look of it the ground seems to be the same shape as the mcg. Just wondering what the dimensions are? Looks tough from the photos to hit a six!
Especially on that pitch! :o
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will be bloody fantastic to have a presence in a high growth suburb, whether its 3-6 months off is neither here nor there..facts are it's on the way and will be a key plank in the TIGERS future :gotigers
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Does anyone know what there irrigation plan involves ?
Will they have water tanks or any other measures to maintain that any water shortage would have minimal effect on our ability to train ?
I would presume it would have to be drought proofed to pass the planning stage.
By the look of it the ground seems to be the same shape as the mcg. Just wondering what the dimensions are? Looks tough from the photos to hit a six!
Yep GR it's meant to have exactly the same dimensions as the 'G. Likewise Punt Rd Oval will be reconfigured to have the dimensions of the Dome.
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From the 2008 RFC Annual Report...
Richmond's state-of-the-art second training facility at Craigieburn is well under way.
Work on the MCG-sized training ground started earlier this year and is expected to be completed in January 2009.
The Tigers will begin training on the ground in February, for six sessions per month during the off-season and two sessions per month during the season.
"This facility will be a great addition to the northern suburban sporting community," Richmond CEO Steven Wright said.
Richmond and our affiliate Coburg are looking forward to becoming involved with the success of the new development. "
"Our relationship with the Craigieburn Greenfield development will enable us to grow our supporter base in this new high-growth population corridor."
The facility will also include a new change-room, gymnasium and community facilities, which are expected to be completed by the end of 2009.
The Victorian Government announced a funding boost of $2.5 million in May this year, taking the total funding allocation to $8.5 million.
The City of Hume, Stockland and the AFL have also pledged their support for the project.
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Apparently the turf has started to be laid at the new ground.
Should be on track for Feb at this stage i would think.
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the rain will help...could be ok for FEB ::)
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Apparently the turf has started to be laid at the new ground.
Should be on track for Feb at this stage i would think.
Cheers for that info TA. It'll give us a month to train on a MCG size ground before we flog Carlton :thumbsup.
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The goalposts are up :thumbsup. Pics thanks to TFL :cheers
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Sheesh they are flying :thumbsup.
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Does anyone know if the club has plans to invest in other businesses in the region ie. a pub with gaming machines?
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Does anyone know if the club has plans to invest in other businesses in the region ie. a pub with gaming machines?
I haven't heard anything but you would think if we plan to connect with the growing Craigieburn area and corridor that a Club pub of some form will be part of the plans.
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Here's the latest pics from Craigieburn courtesy of TFL :cheers. They are hooning along :thumbsup
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Thanks very much fotr the pics one-eyed.
The ground is looking fantastic. All we nee is some constant rain and occasional sunshine and it will need a cut. LOL ;D
Im a very happy camper, if they finish off the pre-season there i can nick off after work.
Campbellfield is just down the road from Craigeburn.
I wonder if they will hold an intra-club game there ?
Hope so, good excuse to nick off from work a bit early. ;D
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another decent drop of rain like we've just had would be the tonic....heres hoping :gotigers
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Looks like they'll have the main oval easily finished by February.
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well I hope they got the decent drop of rain we had in SE overnight...is a bit of a risk putting turf in DEC under normal circumstances...they maybe lucky, laying in cooler times with a bit of rain around ...Looks like coburg may be up for a new gound at some point me thinks :-\
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Does anyone know if the club has plans to invest in other businesses in the region ie. a pub with gaming machines?
ramps my old greek friend, stay tuned
It is no secret that the mayor of Hume is a very very committed tiger fan who has understood what an emerging and succesful afl club would do for the fastest growing geographical area in Australia.
The club has every intention of having a revenue stream in the northern suburbs. Things are coming together as per the plan at the moment. ;)
Can I just say, no poo, Stephen Wright is the best CEO in the AFL bar none.
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Wow!! More grass than a Bob Marley tribute concert. Its really starting to take shape! I bet that turf company is going to give their staff a nice Christmas bonus! ch-ching!! Are they going to build any stands or seating? Would be pretty difficult to have a closed training session and keep away those pro magpie scum journo's with their telephoto lenses trying to dig up their latest dirt on Cuz with their fictional rants.
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Does anyone know if the club has plans to invest in other businesses in the region ie. a pub with gaming machines?
ramps my old greek friend, stay tuned
It is no secret that the mayor of Hume is a very very committed tiger fan who has understood what an emerging and succesful afl club would do for the fastest growing geographical area in Australia.
The club has every intention of having a revenue stream in the northern suburbs. Things are coming together as per the plan at the moment. ;)
Can I just say, no poo, Stephen Wright is the best CEO in the AFL bar none.
Thats very good to hear Blaisee, Its good to see everyones on the ball at Punt Rd, I look forward to seeing these plans come to fruition.
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I read somewhere that at the AGM they announced that an intra-club match will be held there.
Seeya boss ! Im going up to Craigeburn !!! :gotigers
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Does anyone know if the club has plans to invest in other businesses in the region ie. a pub with gaming machines?
ramps my old greek friend, stay tuned
It is no secret that the mayor of Hume is a very very committed tiger fan who has understood what an emerging and succesful afl club would do for the fastest growing geographical area in Australia.
The club has every intention of having a revenue stream in the northern suburbs. Things are coming together as per the plan at the moment. ;)
Can I just say, no poo, Stephen Wright is the best CEO in the AFL bar none.
here's hoping it ain't another pub coz if I'm any aaccountant, which I aint it looks like we've declared a loss(in the current liabilities) of 180k a year until the lease expires in 2018 at wantirna club...I will say thought steve wright is a gem of a CEO and it wasnt he that est WC :banghead
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The Wantirna Club has been a problem imho for a long time, its not a traditional pub. Its disappointing that we have taken a big charge on it. Lets hope the same mistake isnt made at Craigieburn- that is moving away from a traditional pub/tab arrangement, I never understood why the club got itself into a venture where this was built for the purpose, there were plenty of hotels in the SE suburbs that could have been acquired, that were traditional in their nature and profitable as well.
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here's hoping it ain't another pub coz if I'm any aaccountant, which I aint it looks like we've declared a loss(in the current liabilities) of 180k a year until the lease expires in 2018 at wantirna club...I will say thought steve wright is a gem of a CEO and it wasnt he that est WC :banghead
They were actually asked about the WC "write down" at the AGM. Now I am an accountant (dont' hold that against me ;D) and this is really hard one to explain as impairment writedowns are complex.
Impairment writedown are required under international accounting standards which Aust companies are legally required to follow.
But put simply the RFC like any business are required to review certain assets (leases) during the year and make an assumption of their value going forward. In the case of the WC the assessment they had to make was what are the likely losses against the value of the remainder of the lease contract (rental losses -v- estimated revenues). Under the standard in question you have value it for the entire remaing term of the lease not just for one year. The debit side must take directly to the P&L with the "provision" sitting in the liabilities.
It will have to be reviewed again in 2009. However, it is deemed as a provision so if things change then any favourable impairment can be written back as Profit to the P&L.
This is very similar with what Brisbane had to do with the valuing of thier share portfolio and having to write off $2 mil odd. Sadly any writedowns must go to the P&L
If you get a copy of the full financial report then it is all in there :thumbsup
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The Wantirna Club has been a problem imho for a long time, its not a traditional pub. Its disappointing that we have taken a big charge on it. Lets hope the same mistake isnt made at Craigieburn- that is moving away from a traditional pub/tab arrangement, I never understood why the club got itself into a venture where this was built for the purpose, there were plenty of hotels in the SE suburbs that could have been acquired, that were traditional in their nature and profitable as well.
well said ramps,that said , the deals on pubs are probably much better in relative terms right now than back then..post smoking bans et al...I wonder if clubs would be hot to trot into this game in light of a few having there fingers burnt, I could think of less risky retail ventures that could fire and produce good earnings, especially with the help of RFC in providing valuable exposure :-\
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My biggest problem with the WC was that I never understood why they built it from scratch, it was unnecessary, I remember having a conversation with the then GM of our club, about another matter, there were reports that the club had been approached by a NSL club to form a soccer venture, that club wasnt Sth Melb by the way, I rang the club and stated my major concerns about a soccer venture with that club, I was asked to go down to the club and explain further- fortunately we never did it, another club did it, and lost heaps ... anyway, the discussion for some reason moved onto the impact of soccer games for social club at Punt Rd and then the WC also raised and I was amazed when I was told the club had the venue developed on a lease arrangement. There was no need for it.
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My biggest problem with the WC was that I never understood why they built it from scratch, it was unnecessary, I remember having a conversation with the then GM of our club, about another matter, there were reports that the club had been approached by a NSL club to form a soccer venture, that club wasnt Sth Melb by the way, I rang the club and stated my major concerns about a soccer venture with that club, I was asked to go down to the club and explain further- fortunately we never did it, another club did it, and lost heaps ... anyway, the discussion for some reason moved onto the impact of soccer games for social club at Punt Rd and then the WC also raised and I was amazed when I was told the club had the venue developed on a lease arrangement. There was no need for it.
I don't necessarily believe that it couldn't be successful, they just pitched it totally wrong...rather than a fancy Bar/bistro they should have marketed it like a leagues club IE Great value...Carvery roasts...Happy Hours etc that has much broader appeal than those fancy dans that if they wanted a feed would go to a restaurant in any case...Now I think of it, I'll email steve wright ::)
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I hope the club puts some serious thought into the craigieburn opening, we could be on a REAL winner out there in pushing the yellow & black cause amongst the locals....I'd like to see local media saturation of a training run starring Richo, Browny, Lids etal ...and wait for it...Cuzzz...a yellow and Black hot air balloon hovering above the track...marching girls and a 21 gun salute as the tigers make their appearance...Bugger Tasmania , this it, one of the highest growth corridors in the country...Let's do it :gotigers
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Your are basically spot on. We have the stars. ( Richo, Cuz, Brown, Lids) Let's use them. In this day and age kids respond to names they know, pictures they see in media....in short to stars.
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Once it's opened the club should train on a specific day/time ea week...word will soon get around, in no time at all there would be a stack of locals at ea session...Now thats nation building :thumbsup
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It wouldn't surprise me if this year they hold the RFC family day up there with jumper presentations and invite the locals along as well. The timing of the two events would coincide with each other. The actual completion of the full facility with the pavilion/changerooms won't be for another 12 months so the grand opening might have to be put off until 2010. I like the idea of a 21 gun salute bj lol. We might need a planning permit for that from the local council :lol.
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I believe that Richmond will be conducting their Community Camp at Craigieburn in the new year, so i guess that will be the official opening.
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It wouldn't surprise me if this year they hold the RFC family day up there with jumper presentations and invite the locals along as well. The timing of the two events would coincide with each other. The actual completion of the full facility with the pavilion/changerooms won't be for another 12 months so the grand opening might have to be put off until 2010. I like the idea of a 21 gun salute bj lol. We might need a planning permit for that from the local council :lol.
the permit will be the only hurdle, the guns won't be a prob, isn't there a bikies clubhouse nearby ::)
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the permit will be the only hurdle, the guns won't be a prob, isn't there a bikies clubhouse nearby ::)
You'll have to ask Didak for directions lol
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the permit will be the only hurdle, the guns won't be a prob, isn't there a bikies clubhouse nearby ::)
Surely the permit is optional then.
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Any updates on this please:
Has it been finished?
Is the team ready to go there for the summer?
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Any updates on this please:
Has it been finished?
Is the team ready to go there for the summer?
At the last Club80 function Steven Wright said that the ground (as in the actualy oval and surface) is done and the faclities (stand, change rooms etc) will be completed by Feb 2010. Tigers will be training out there this coming pre-season
Also in last week's edition of Inside Footy in the VFL section it said that it was confirmed that Coburg would be playing home games out there in 2010 and it mentioned (again) that it would be ready by February.
I would think that if it is ready by then that there will an AFL practice match out there Feb/Mar like what they do at Casey Fields each year
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Coburg GM said at half time of last saturdays game that it will be very similar to Casey Fields and that the
Burgers will play a few games there next year! He said that Craigeburn will leave City Oval for dead! One would hope so!
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He said that Craigeburn will leave City Oval for dead! One would hope so!
Let's be honest that wouldn't be hard ;D
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Much discussion this week has centred on the future of the Coburg club.
It was confirmed this week that the Burgers will start playing matches at Craigieburn in 2010, splitting home fixtures between the new Richmond summer training venue and Coburg’s home since joining the VFA/VFL in 1925.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-0-0&sID=60264&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=9627389§ionID=60264
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We should ditch Coburg and start a new club in the VFL- call it something like the Craigieburn Tigers and have it 100% Richmond.
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We should ditch Coburg and start a new club in the VFL- call it something like the Craigieburn Tigers and have it 100% Richmond.
Given it apparently costs 280k-300k extra on top of alignment I don't think it's a bad investment when you can take into account the intangible gain of all players being played in the seniors where we want them and without other input and we get advertising and sponsorship revenue that may bridge the gap further.
I think it would be the correct call.
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We should ditch Coburg and start a new club in the VFL- call it something like the Craigieburn Tigers and have it 100% Richmond.
Given it apparently costs 280k-300k extra on top of alignment I don't think it's a bad investment when you can take into account the intangible gain of all players being played in the seniors where we want them and without other input and we get advertising and sponsorship revenue that may bridge the gap further.
I think it would be the correct call.
Agree they should dump Coburg.
Richmond are never going to rise with this VFL club destroying the development of our players
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How much would travelling to training in the outer suburbs seriously enter a player's mind as far changing clubs?
Brock McLean has used it as an excuse to leave the Dees for Carlton:
I will say that driving distance from my home in Maribyrnong to Casey was a consideration. It took me an hour to get there and on a bad day two hours along the Monash to get back.
"It isn't ideal being in a car for an hour before you are going to run around for a couple of hours. Your back seizes up, your hammies get tight.
"I now live 10 minutes from Carlton. The 2-3 hours extra I was spending in a car can now be re-invested into recovery sessions, extra weights, fitness.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/between-a-brock-mclean-and-a-hard-place/story-e6frf9if-1225783103525
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craigieburn access via western ring and tulla freeway would be exponentially better than the monash...Not the least bit surprised to hear this...cranbourne is bloody miles away and would hardly be an enticing prospect ::)
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Brock McLean has used it as an excuse to leave the Dees for Carlton:
Pretty pisweak excuse.
Think the drive would be less of a worry if they weren't getting flogged. What is it anyway, a 3-4 hour day turned into a 5-6 hour day?
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My only comment....
Grow up Brock you sook and welcome to the real world and you wonder why people think footballers are overpaid brainless fools
OVer an hour in the car - didums.... :chuck :chuck :chuck
:wallywink
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While heading home from our holiday up North on Friday we were travelling along the Hume Highway and I decided to make a slight detour to check out what's happening happening out at Craigieburn
Here a couple of pics:
The Playing surface is ready and looks a treat :thumbsup
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/craigieburn/20112009/craigieburn (2)_nov09_playing surface.JPG)
Here is the new building:
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/craigieburn/20112009/craigieburn (1)_nov 09_pavillion1.JPG)
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Here's the new building from the carpark
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/craigieburn/20112009/craigieburn (4)_nov09_building from carpark.JPG)
another of the new building:
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/craigieburn/20112009/craigieburn (3)_nov09_pavillion.JPG)
And yes that big pole in front of the building is a light tower :thumbsup
Finally this sign is on the corner and shows what the finished building should look like :thumbsup
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/craigieburn/20112009/craigieburn (6)_nov09_final_2.JPG)
NB: if you want to highlight/mention these on other sites - please remember to link them correctly to OER - appreciate it :thumbsup
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Thanks for the update WP ,much appreciated
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Can't wait for that to be finished.
Can't wait till the Punt Rd redevelopment to be completed also.
Off field things are looking up. :cheers
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thx wp, going forward, will be great for tiges to make a presence in this growth area..in years to come , should be a TIGER stronghold
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thx wp, going forward, will be great for tiges to make a presence in this growth area..in years to come , should be a TIGER stronghold
The club should also consider ways of ensuring a long lasting presence in the SE suburbs. We cannot just give up a traditional heartland like that, especially to the hawks. Club needs to look at solutions, ie. sponsoring some school leagues in the area, having sister club relationships with some local clubs and schools especially primary schools, maybe look at playing the odd practice game at a venue like Central Park in Glen Waverley.
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The club should also consider ways of ensuring a long lasting presence in the SE suburbs. We cannot just give up a traditional heartland like that, especially to the hawks. Club needs to look at solutions, ie. sponsoring some school leagues in the area, having sister club relationships with some local clubs and schools especially primary schools, maybe look at playing the odd practice game at a venue like Central Park in Glen Waverley.
Doubt it will happen Ramps - the relationships you are suggesting would already be established by the Hawks. They (Hawthorn) would have those sort of arrangements with various schools.
As for playing practice games at Central Park - I am not familiar with the area but the place would need to be up to a certain standard.
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The club should also consider ways of ensuring a long lasting presence in the SE suburbs. We cannot just give up a traditional heartland like that, especially to the hawks. Club needs to look at solutions, ie. sponsoring some school leagues in the area, having sister club relationships with some local clubs and schools especially primary schools, maybe look at playing the odd practice game at a venue like Central Park in Glen Waverley.
Doubt it will happen Ramps - the relationships you are suggesting would already be established by the Hawks. They (Hawthorn) would have those sort of arrangements with various schools.
As for playing practice games at Central Park - I am not familiar with the area but the place would need to be up to a certain standard.
The hawks probably have established relationships with some schools, but I doubt that they have secured every school. Even if we established a link with some of them - maybe 1 or 2 in Glen Waverley, 1 or 2 in Mount Waverley, 1 or 2 in Vermont/ Vermont South and 1 or 2 in Wantirna/Wantirna South then atleast we can keep up a fantastic presence, and make sure that the hawks dont end up monopolising the area. Id go further and probably even like to see a South Eastern Suburbs Supporters group established to make sure that things happen in the area and that we keep our presence. As for an annual practice match, plenty of places not only Central Park, Wesley College have just developed some fantastic sporting facilities on High Street Road, would be a great place to have a scratch match.
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Great pics WP :cheers. Looks like it is coming along nicely. Hopefully it'll be finished and ready for use by early next year.
The architectual firm must love us as they came up with the designs for both this and the Punt Rd development.
Just out of curiosity is the RFC logo on the sign or somewhere the premises? I see the AFL and State Government logos are on the sign. It is Richmond's facility even if the others mentioned put $$$ in.
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Just out of curiosity is the RFC logo on the sign or somewhere the premises? I see the AFL and State Government logos are on the sign. It is Richmond's facility even if the others mentioned put $$$ in.
No RFC logos MT
However as you are driving via Grand Boulevard there is a large billboard thats says something like "come & see our AFL grounds' with a picture of a kid in a Tiger jumper (it's the kid out of the TV ads for the "Highland Estate" the one where ther say "I'm a highlander")
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From WP's photos in the training thread the ground surface at Craigieburn looks in good nick. How is the pavilion coming along?
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From WP's photos in the training thread the ground surface at Craigieburn looks in good nick. How is the pavilion coming along?
Fenced off and still being finished. Although no work was being done on Monday
They seemed to have alot more of the "internals" done this time round. What I would assume is going to be the kiosk had a number of things in it waiting to be connected (eg fryer etc)
Re the pic below:
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/craigieburn/20112009/craigieburn (4)_nov09_building from carpark.JPG)
That is all basically filled in now
On the otherside (facing the ground) there are still no seats but all the windows seemed to be in and the walls finished (you cannot see the blue insulation anymore)
As it is a construction site the pavillion is fenced off.
If they "bust thier chops" then it maybe finsihed for family day; which would be a good day to officially open it I suppose ;D
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Good stuff WP :thumbsup
They've only got 3 weeks to finish it for family day so it could be touch and go by what you've said. Be good if they could have the kiosk open for the family day and make some money.
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Here's some updated pics taken yesterday of the Craigieburn facility :thumbsup
Thumbnails: - Click to enlarge
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_050210/pic3_thumb.jpg) (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_050210/pic3.jpg) (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_050210/pic4_thumb.jpg) (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_050210/pic4.jpg)
Ground side of the Pavilion
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_050210/pic5_thumb.jpg) (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_050210/pic5.jpg) (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_050210/pic6_thumb.jpg) (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_050210/pic6.jpg)
Rear side of the Pavilion
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_050210/pic7_thumb.jpg) (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_050210/pic7.jpg) (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_050210/pic8_thumb.jpg) (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_050210/pic8.jpg)
Pavilion and oval (looking south)
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Having seen it in the flesh for the first time yesterday you can only be impressed with how great a facility it is. After training at dumps such as Vic Park, it would be close to the best oval in the League to train and play on. The ground size is massive and the surface is so smooth looks like carpet. As a Tiger supporter it's worth travelling up to Craigieburn to have a look.
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why are the panels on the building Green, shouldnt they be like yellow and black.
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why aren't we training there more often, this community week would appearto be first time we've been there..
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Having seen it in the flesh for the first time yesterday you can only be impressed with how great a facility it is. After training at dumps such as Vic Park, it would be close to the best oval in the League to train and play on. The ground size is massive and the surface is so smooth looks like carpet. As a Tiger supporter it's worth travelling up to Craigieburn to have a look.
Yes it is impressive isn't it?
I am actually looking forward to seeing it completed. The undercover seating in the stand will be a great in those cold wet winter afternoons at the VFL ;D
I reckon Coburg are lucky, will be the best venue in the VFL by a long long way when it's finished
why are the panels on the building Green, shouldnt they be like yellow and black.
Why?
We didn't pay for it Ramps - we have an agreement to use it free of charge but it is a community facility where the RFC is the face ;D
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why aren't we training there more often, this community week would appearto be first time we've been there..
We've been training there heaps. Plenty of times leading up to the community week.
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why aren't we training there more often, this community week would appearto be first time we've been there..
We've been training there heaps. Plenty of times leading up to the community week.
Yep post-Christmas we've been training at Craigieburn about twice a week. Before Christmas these sessions were held at Monash Uni.
Yes it is impressive isn't it?
I am actually looking forward to seeing it completed. The undercover seating in the stand will be a great in those cold wet winter afternoons at the VFL
I reckon Coburg are lucky, will be the best venue in the VFL by a long long way when it's finished
I haven't been to Casey Fields in Cranbourne but I've been all the other VFL venues and yep this Craigieburn facility creams the rest. The MCG size ground is magnificent :thumbsup plus chuck in the weather and we've also got our very own Waverley :lol.
The RFC will be very fortunate to have two modern training facilities when all the redevelopments are finished. Add to that Richmond now owns the population growth corridor north of Broady.
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Having seen it in the flesh for the first time yesterday you can only be impressed with how great a facility it is. After training at dumps such as Vic Park, it would be close to the best oval in the League to train and play on. The ground size is massive and the surface is so smooth looks like carpet. As a Tiger supporter it's worth travelling up to Craigieburn to have a look.
Yes it is impressive isn't it?
I am actually looking forward to seeing it completed. The undercover seating in the stand will be a great in those cold wet winter afternoons at the VFL ;D
I reckon Coburg are lucky, will be the best venue in the VFL by a long long way when it's finished
why are the panels on the building Green, shouldnt they be like yellow and black.
Why?
We didn't pay for it Ramps - we have an agreement to use it free of charge but it is a community facility where the RFC is the face ;D
since when has richmond ever reflected a light and dark green tinge ::) we are yellow and black, the council must change the color scheme to properly reflect the true stature of the development and for that to occur the panels must be yellow and black, preferably in a sash type theme with atleast 1 tiger head somewhere on the building although the old 1970s tiger emblem would be a great addition also. Craigieburn council needs to lift. This isnt on this stuff. I dont wanna travel half way around the world to go to craigieburn to look at light green colors on the buildings.
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Im only new to this forum, but im pretty sure your missing the point Ramps, The council paid for this building for the wider community to use, not solely for the purpose of tigers training their occasionally and how long that will last who knows? Richmond didn't put in a single dollar, the council are allowing the tigers to train their for free and Coburg are playing their occasionally, and their colours are nay and red arent they?
Me, I'm just grateful that the council have decided to build a great oval and facility for everyone to use, including all the young kids who will get to use a facility that an afl team also trains on, maybe well get some future supporters and stars from our venture out to Craigieburn, and id just like to say thanks to the council for actually providing something decent for the community.
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Im only new to this forum, but im pretty sure your missing the point Ramps, The council paid for this building for the wider community to use, not solely for the purpose of tigers training their occasionally and how long that will last who knows? Richmond didn't put in a single dollar, the council are allowing the tigers to train their for free and Coburg are playing their occasionally, and their colours are nay and red arent they?
Me, I'm just grateful that the council have decided to build a great oval and facility for everyone to use, including all the young kids who will get to use a facility that an afl team also trains on, maybe well get some future supporters and stars from our venture out to Craigieburn, and id just like to say thanks to the council for actually providing something decent for the community.
thats ok ... as your here longer youll realise that some posts are posted more as tongue in cheek responses :cheers
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Welcome aboard OER lhb :).
Agree the Club can't complain about receiving such a high quality facility for free :thumbsup. The Calder Cannons IIRC will also be playing at Highgate reserve as will the local Craigieburn Eagles FC who are already training at the ground. Mitch Farmer comes from Craigieburn FC and the Club advertised the RFC community camp on their website - http://www.goeagles.com.au/seniors/
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Welcome aboard OER lhb :).
Agree the Club can't complain about receiving such a high quality facility for free :thumbsup. The Calder Cannons IIRC will also be playing at Highgate reserve as will the local Craigieburn Eagles FC who are already training at the ground. Mitch Farmer comes from Craigieburn FC and the Club advertised the RFC community camp on their website - http://www.goeagles.com.au/seniors/
It's very plain to see that Telstra had nothing to do with the design of that website :thumbsup
While I am aware it is poor form to laugh at your own jokes-'however' :ROTFL
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No Flash :thumbsup
No Java :thumbsup
Works for me ;D
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Highgate not fit for Tigers
by Sam Landsberger
Hume Leader
15 Mar 11
COBURG will not play any of its four scheduled practice matches at Craigieburn’s Highgate Recreation Reserve.
The problematic surface failed another inspection last week and has been ruled out for the next four weeks.
Hume Council has set an April 2 return date for Craigieburn but it is unlikely to see any action until a TAC Cup triple-header on April 9 at the earliest.
The ground has played havoc for the Tigers, which moved last week’s practice match against Bendigo to Bulleen and hosted Box Hill on Saturday in Waverley.
The Tigers’ reserves played in Lalor on Sunday.
Football manager Craig Byron was tight-lipped when discussing the surface but admitted it was “frustrating.” “If we didn’t have Punt Road we would’ve been right up the sprout. Then we would’ve been really compromised,” he said.
But Byron said he is was confident Craigieburn’s surface would improve and not cause chaos in the season proper.
Casey’s home base morphed into a mudpit and became unplayable in July, forcing the Scorpions, TAC Cup club Gippsland Power and local side Cranbourne to shift matches.
The Tigers are not fixtured to play in Cragieburn until Round 8 against Frankston.
Frustratingly, Craigieburn’s second oval is in pristine condition but unavailable because of cricket season.
The wings of the premier oval are also in top shape but the wrong grass was planted in the centre corridor.
“That grass needs heat to grow and we’ve got rain all summer, which is the biggest problem,” Byron explained.
The surface has not affected AFL club Richmond, which has trained at a raft of venues including Gosch’s Paddock and Bulleen.
http://hume-leader.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/highgate-not-fit-for-tigers/
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this has been a balls up of epic proportions, we've had the wettest winter on record and they're twelling me it aint playable...Now unless Coburg are chronic whingers then this is a joke ::)
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Must be a joke
Have they heard of a sprinkler ??
Its a joke surely.
It just shows people have no idea what there doing.
I have been to local footy practise games recently nearby and the grounds wouldnt be in better condition
And these grounds are prepared by amateurs
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i think you two have misread.
The problem is too much rain and not enough sun, which wouldnt be a problem if they had planted the right grass.