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Title: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: one-eyed on March 30, 2008, 10:05:38 PM
Wallace flags changes
Matt Burgan
richmondfc.com.au
9:32 PM Sun 30 March, 2008

RICHMOND coach Terry Wallace has promised changes after the Tigers lost their first match for the season against North Melbourne on Sunday.

Calling his side’s performance in the 41-point defeat "extremely poor", Wallace said he would drop players who “don’t respect the guernsey”.

"Last year we lost games and had a pretty ordinary season and at times we couldn't do anything about it - we just didn't have the blokes up and running and we had to go with the same blokes who let us down week-in, week-out," Wallace said.

"But I just wanted to let our supporter base know that we're fully fit and healthy and we've got blokes running around at [VFL side] Coburg … and blokes that don't respect the guernsey won't play.

"We're in a position where we can do that and we'll make changes to the side until we can get the right blokes in there that want to compete, so our supporters shouldn't walk away thinking they're going to get the same old, same old, because we'll throw it around and give some young blokes an opportunity until we get the right blokes in that want to compete."

Roos coach Dean Laidley fumed after his side’s 41-point win about an “unfair playing field”, with the Tigers enjoying a 10-day rest between rounds compared to North’s six days.

But Wallace said the side’s long break worked against it.

Wallace said the six-day break helped a "hardened" North Melbourne produce a far superior performance.

"Playing the first game of the opening round through to waiting around for the very last game of the Sunday game [is difficult] with the blokes sitting around all of the time," Wallace said.

"I think the Kangaroos – six days, angry and getting on with the next job straight away – versus us – fairly comfortable with ourselves over 10 days – made a huge difference.

"You try to warn blokes and they get a little bit of publicity and a few things happen, but [the Kangaroos] were much, much too strong for us and we couldn't get our hands on the footy."

Wallace said North Melbourne set the example from the first quarter.

"I'd spoken to my guys about the car careering towards you in one direction and we needed to be a car careering back in the other direction - not a pedestrian being run over - and we ended up being exactly that pedestrian in the first quarter," Wallace said.

"I've got no issue about the umpiring - our blokes were second to the ball and paid the penalty and the price for that."

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=57094
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on March 30, 2008, 10:07:46 PM
Changes, ummmmmmmmm
Come end of week and there will only be 2 , i bet you ::)
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: {X} on March 30, 2008, 10:09:26 PM
and 2 or 3 the week after

till he gets the mix right

he aint gonna drop brown for one bad game but he will and drop hyde and should drop a few others

we will see over the next 2 weeks
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: mjs on March 30, 2008, 10:11:16 PM
Johnson in ...obviously
Raines out ...obviously

Morton in...obviously
? out ...obviously
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: 1965 on March 30, 2008, 10:14:26 PM

PETTS
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on March 30, 2008, 10:17:00 PM
As long as we dont bring in Jokely Nichols ::)
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 30, 2008, 10:22:03 PM
I know it will kill some people but based on FORM - Tivendale deserves a game.

Morton must play IMHO
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: mjs on March 30, 2008, 10:22:31 PM
As long as we dont bring in Jokely Nichols ::)

He won't make it.

From Coburg game Morton and Tivers will make it.

Jack needs a lot more body weight, plenty of time.

The ruckman (forget his name) looked good.
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: 1965 on March 30, 2008, 10:23:53 PM
The ruckman is a rookie. (Cartledge?)

I still think Jack is a better option than Cleve.

 :)
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 30, 2008, 10:26:56 PM
Ins should be Johnson, Morton, Riewoldt, and one of Connors Edwards or Tivendale.

Outs should be Hyde, Raines , Polo , Hughes

Coach will be reactive to our loss and Coburgs big win. Unsure if this will balance up the side as I think Hughes has more talent than Jack. Would love to see Daniel Connors in for Mcmahon at half back, but dropping McMahon this early in the season would be an admittance from Terry the recruiters and the coaching staff as a mistake in recruiting him on their behalf so we'll have to deal with his softness passenger  pansy playing football for a few more weeks at least.
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: harry bosch on March 30, 2008, 10:31:26 PM
Morton should come in but seeing he is a soft flanker he has to replace another of his type..Ie Petts

Morton
Jonhson
White
Riewoldt

for

Hyde
Pettifer
Raines
Polak (out of form or unfit or both)

Bowden and Brown to spend a lot of the first quarter on the bench as a maessage that they are on thin ice..


Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on March 30, 2008, 10:32:46 PM
Ins should be Johnson, Morton, Riewoldt, and one of Connors Edwards or Tivendale.

Outs should be Hyde, Raines , Polo , Hughes

Coach will be reactive to our loss and Coburgs big win. Unsure if this will balance up the side as I think Hughes has more talent than Jack. Would love to see Daniel Connors in for Mcmahon at half back, but dropping McMahon this early in the season would be an admittance from Terry the recruiters and the coaching staff as a mistake in recruiting him on their behalf so we'll have to deal with his softness passenger  pansy playing football for a few more weeks at least.

McMahon is the softest player in the game.
Dont bother going next week if Tivs and Jordo are on the same team.
Pass the fairy floss
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 30, 2008, 10:32:52 PM
The ruckman is a rookie. (Cartledge?)

I still think Jack is a better option than Cleve.

 :)

I rate Cleve higher than Jack. In terms of their games played at AFL level Cleve has more shots on goal per game than what Jack does. Cleve has more courage also but needs to lift his work rate. Jack to me seems to slow of the mark finds it difficult to get into space and tends to play from behind alot. We can't be reactive and drop Cleve merely because Jack kicked 6 this week for the Burgers. Would rather see Jack kick 20 goals in the next 4 weeks at Coburg and if Cleve's form warrants him being dropped then so be it. We can't keep alternating these two every few weeks we need to give them significant game time at this level 5-7 games to help them find their niche. Dropping them then promoting them then dropping them again hinders both player and club and hurts the rest of the team who have become used to one of these boys playing long term with them. Play one or both Terry but do it for a while and not as a reactionary solution to what happens with Richmond and Coburg.
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on April 03, 2008, 06:38:05 PM
Changes, ummmmmmmmm
Come end of week and there will only be 2 , i bet you ::)

Terry Wallet, master of spin , full of crap.
Told you there would be 2. and what big axings they were, Polo and Hyde. Terry Wallet=Clown
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: jezza on April 03, 2008, 06:43:40 PM
Changes, ummmmmmmmm
Come end of week and there will only be 2 , i bet you ::)

Terry Wallet, master of spin , full of crap.
Told you there would be 2. and what big axings they were, Polo and Hyde. Terry Wallet=Clown

Only two changes hey? Interesting comment given the side isn't finalised until tomorrow......
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on April 03, 2008, 07:14:35 PM
Changes, ummmmmmmmm
Come end of week and there will only be 2 , i bet you ::)

Terry Wallet, master of spin , full of crap.
Told you there would be 2. and what big axings they were, Polo and Hyde. Terry Wallet=Clown

Only two changes hey? Interesting comment given the side isn't finalised until tomorrow......

Can tell you they are they are 2 outs :shh
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Stripes on April 03, 2008, 07:35:51 PM
Petts will be out surely. They will not play Petts as aforward come midfielder off thhe bench with Morton included.

I'm hoping White is included also.

Stripes
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Tigermonk on April 03, 2008, 07:44:53 PM
Richmond are weak & aint got the balls to axe the main offenders & until they have a get tuff policy on passengers we will never never never be a powerful side
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: rogerd3 on April 03, 2008, 07:46:25 PM
Changes, ummmmmmmmm
Come end of week and there will only be 2 , i bet you ::)

Terry Wallet, master of spin , full of crap.
Told you there would be 2. and what big axings they were, Polo and Hyde. Terry Wallet=Clown

jumping the gun. but hey nothing new there.

loose lips sink ships, well thats what Steve said to me the other night about certain persons that claim to know things about the RFC but in actual fact know jack....go figure.

good man is Mr Steve Wright. :thumbsup

Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Moi on April 03, 2008, 07:50:19 PM
There's no reason to make wholesale changes.
Not exactly panic stations yet.
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on April 03, 2008, 08:00:06 PM
There's no reason to make wholesale changes.
Not exactly panic stations yet.


Ahhhhhhhh  But Terry Wallet was actually quoted that he would wield the axe,  :banghead :banghead :banghead
Only reason he says it is to keep the ferals calm, lol
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on April 03, 2008, 08:10:24 PM
Changes, ummmmmmmmm
Come end of week and there will only be 2 , i bet you ::)

Terry Wallet, master of spin , full of crap.
Told you there would be 2. and what big axings they were, Polo and Hyde. Terry Wallet=Clown

jumping the gun. but hey nothing new there.

loose lips sink ships, well thats what Steve said to me the other night about certain persons that claim to know things about the RFC but in actual fact know jack....go figure.

good man is Mr Steve Wright. :thumbsup




If your that close to him, ask him to give me a call, he has my number. would love to talk to him, tell him a few facts.

Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Tigermonk on April 03, 2008, 08:42:13 PM
its ok Jack let them dream
Stevie Wright dont hang around forum trolls   :thumbsup :lol
keep punching them lines out cause there all true facts of whats really going down at Tigerland  :lol
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: rogerd3 on April 03, 2008, 08:45:27 PM
Changes, ummmmmmmmm
Come end of week and there will only be 2 , i bet you ::)

Terry Wallet, master of spin , full of crap.
Told you there would be 2. and what big axings they were, Polo and Hyde. Terry Wallet=Clown

jumping the gun. but hey nothing new there.

loose lips sink ships, well thats what Steve said to me the other night about certain persons that claim to know things about the RFC but in actual fact know jack....go figure.

good man is Mr Steve Wright. :thumbsup




If your that close to him, ask him to give me a call, he has my number. would love to talk to him, tell him a few facts.



i never said i was close to him, but we do catch up.
he knows of certain people pertaining to know inside knowledge about certain issues within the RFC, lets just say he/we had a chuckle and carried on our conversation.
he doesnt need you telling him your so called "facts" busy man is steve.
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Tigermonk on April 03, 2008, 08:51:57 PM
Yeah his so busy telling you the ins & outs of Tigerland you wished a busy boy Stevie
most the time his not even there  :lol
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: rogerd3 on April 03, 2008, 09:05:40 PM
Yeah his so busy telling you the ins & outs of Tigerland you wished a busy boy Stevie
most the time his not even there  :lol

well you seem to think you know what we actually discuss, it is very rarely we discuss the RFC...have known the bloke since the Grand Prix days.

you seem to have joined all the dots together... :whistle but are so far wide of the mark it aint funny.



Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on April 03, 2008, 09:07:37 PM
Changes, ummmmmmmmm
Come end of week and there will only be 2 , i bet you ::)

Terry Wallet, master of spin , full of crap.
Told you there would be 2. and what big axings they were, Polo and Hyde. Terry Wallet=Clown

jumping the gun. but hey nothing new there.

loose lips sink ships, well thats what Steve said to me the other night about certain persons that claim to know things about the RFC but in actual fact know jack....go figure.

good man is Mr Steve Wright. :thumbsup




If your that close to him, ask him to give me a call, he has my number. would love to talk to him, tell him a few facts.



i never said i was close to him, but we do catch up.
he knows of certain people pertaining to know inside knowledge about certain issues within the RFC, lets just say he/we had a chuckle and carried on our conversation.
he doesnt need you telling him your so called "facts" busy man is steve.
What, busy with his girlfriends, lol :lol ;)
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Moi on April 03, 2008, 09:10:47 PM

What, busy with his girlfriends, lol :lol ;)
Kettle, pot, black  ;)
 :rollin
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on April 03, 2008, 09:13:02 PM
Yeah his so busy telling you the ins & outs of Tigerland you wished a busy boy Stevie
most the time his not even there  :lol

well you seem to think you know what we actually discuss, it is very rarely we discuss the RFC...have known the bloke since the Grand Prix days.

you seem to have joined all the dots together... :whistle but are so far wide of the mark it aint funny.





Tell you what, why dont you check most of my posts and you might find they are nearly all on the money. And furthermore,next time I speak to him , I will mention that Rogerd3 on OER gave his regards. tipping he will pee more than Kane Johnson
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Tigermonk on April 03, 2008, 09:13:48 PM
 :thumbsup  :lol
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on April 03, 2008, 09:14:29 PM

What, busy with his girlfriends, lol :lol ;)
Kettle, pot, black  ;)
 :rollin
Pot calling the kettle back hey, "'The busy with his girlfriends "" went right over your head didnt it. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Smokey on April 03, 2008, 09:17:15 PM
a busy boy Stevie
most the time his not even there  :lol
So he's not busy because he's never in his office?  Makes you wonder how he has achieved such a fabulous result for the club in his time there then doesn't it?  I don't know what you do for a crust or where you have been in your life but I'll take a guess that with such an ignorant and ill-informed comment, not a lot of it has been spent at the pointy end of corporate town.
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Tigermonk on April 03, 2008, 09:21:04 PM
yeah you know everyone too  :thumbsup
l be warm in the corperate box come Sunday
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Smokey on April 03, 2008, 09:29:56 PM
yeah you know everyone too  :thumbsup
l be warm in the corperate box come Sunday
And the point of either of these 2 comments?  Pretty sure I never said I knew everyone and pretty sure I've watched football and cricket and union and US baseball from corporate boxes but its never got me one poofteenth of an inch closer to knowing how a CEO operates BUT my time spent as a company director and business manager has given me some significant insights - your comments are ill-informed and ignorant - my original point.
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on April 03, 2008, 09:32:09 PM
a busy boy Stevie
most the time his not even there  :lol
So he's not busy because he's never in his office?  Makes you wonder how he has achieved such a fabulous result for the club in his time there then doesn't it?  I don't know what you do for a crust or where you have been in your life but I'll take a guess that with such an ignorant and ill-informed comment, not a lot of it has been spent at the pointy end of corporate town.

Fabulous result, you getting to sound like Terry Wallet.
I will take you to task here.
The worst 2 decisions made in this decade at the RFC were to honour Danny Frawleys contract and to give the other clown( wallet) a 5 year contract UNCONDITION!.
ASK Steve Wright about Terry Wallets KPI,s and he will look at you with a blank face  and start talking about another issue.
Corporate World. How on earth do you pay Wallet $600,000 a year with no KPI,s and UNCONDITIONAL!
As for his success of the Grand Prix, dig a bit deeper in regards to losses my friend ;)
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: 1980 on April 03, 2008, 09:54:54 PM
a busy boy Stevie
most the time his not even there  :lol
So he's not busy because he's never in his office?  Makes you wonder how he has achieved such a fabulous result for the club in his time there then doesn't it?  I don't know what you do for a crust or where you have been in your life but I'll take a guess that with such an ignorant and ill-informed comment, not a lot of it has been spent at the pointy end of corporate town.

Fabulous result, you getting to sound like Terry Wallet.
I will take you to task here.
The worst 2 decisions made in this decade at the RFC were to honour Danny Frawleys contract and to give the other clown( wallet) a 5 year contract UNCONDITION!.
ASK Steve Wright about Terry Wallets KPI,s and he will look at you with a blank face  and start talking about another issue.
Corporate World. How on earth do you pay Wallet $600,000 a year with no KPI,s and UNCONDITIONAL!
As for his success of the Grand Prix, dig a bit deeper in regards to losses my friend ;)

Those are 2 entirely conflicting statements mate

In order to avoid ending up with another unproven tool like Frawley, the price we had to pay was a 5 year deal with Wallace.

1) No coach with any experience or track record was going to coach us without some security
2) Frawley had left us in such a state that a new coach needed 2 years just to clean up the mess

Even if Wallace gets sacked at the end of the season, it was still the right decision at the time.





Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Smokey on April 03, 2008, 09:57:24 PM
Fabulous result, you getting to sound like Terry Wallet.
I will take you to task here.
The worst 2 decisions made in this decade at the RFC were to honour Danny Frawleys contract and to give the other clown( wallet) a 5 year contract UNCONDITION!.
ASK Steve Wright about Terry Wallets KPI,s and he will look at you with a blank face  and start talking about another issue.
Corporate World. How on earth do you pay Wallet $600,000 a year with no KPI,s and UNCONDITIONAL!
As for his success of the Grand Prix, dig a bit deeper in regards to losses my friend ;)
Steve Wright has engineered the turnaround (financially) of the basket case that was the RFC balance sheet.  We can debate for hours on the importance or otherwise of watching $$'s as opposed to winning premierships but one isn't coming without the other and the finances had to be fixed first.  The Frawley decision was made bad before Wright had anything to do with it - his contract was extended by the board (remember the name Casey if you want to travel the blame path) on the back of some encouraging but misleading signs early on.  The decision to honour the contract was made with zero regard to finances - it was purely a tactical strategy to strengthen our position when his contract was up and we needed a replacement.  And every single coach in the AFL operates under a no KPI scenario - the closest any of them come to operating that way is to get bonuses for certain ladder finishes/finals etc - nothing like true KPI's as you and I know them in the 'real' world.  Don't care for the losses at the Grand Prix - it's irrelevant and you could mount a very very strong case that he was dealing with a poisoned chalice - maybe he did a fantastic job to reduce the losses to what they were?  The outcomes of his performance at Richmond (which is all that matters) are there for all to be seen in our balance sheets and that is one of your favourites - a FACT.
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on April 03, 2008, 10:39:39 PM
Can tell you that I know of at least 4 coaches who have KPI,s attached to there employment, these vary from club to club and you are right to a ceratin degree in regards to position on ladder although other aspects to come into play.
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: mightytiges on April 04, 2008, 04:58:41 AM
Can tell you they are they are 2 outs :shh
Raines, Polo, Hyde = 3?
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: mightytiges on April 04, 2008, 05:10:42 AM
a busy boy Stevie
most the time his not even there  :lol
So he's not busy because he's never in his office?  Makes you wonder how he has achieved such a fabulous result for the club in his time there then doesn't it?  I don't know what you do for a crust or where you have been in your life but I'll take a guess that with such an ignorant and ill-informed comment, not a lot of it has been spent at the pointy end of corporate town.

Fabulous result, you getting to sound like Terry Wallet.
I will take you to task here.
The worst 2 decisions made in this decade at the RFC were to honour Danny Frawleys contract and to give the other clown( wallet) a 5 year contract UNCONDITION!.
ASK Steve Wright about Terry Wallets KPI,s and he will look at you with a blank face  and start talking about another issue.
Corporate World. How on earth do you pay Wallet $600,000 a year with no KPI,s and UNCONDITIONAL!
As for his success of the Grand Prix, dig a bit deeper in regards to losses my friend ;)

Those are 2 entirely conflicting statements mate

In order to avoid ending up with another unproven tool like Frawley, the price we had to pay was a 5 year deal with Wallace.

1) No coach with any experience or track record was going to coach us without some security
2) Frawley had left us in such a state that a new coach needed 2 years just to clean up the mess

Even if Wallace gets sacked at the end of the season, it was still the right decision at the time.
Spot on 1980.

If we are talking KPIs, Wallace's main one when he started was rebuilding the trainwreck of a list for long-term success. It's another reason why Plough got a 5 year contract. It'll be up to the club in 18 months time to judge whether Plough has done that and then judge if he is the right coach to take the next step. 
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on April 04, 2008, 08:16:04 AM
Can tell you they are they are 2 outs :shh
Raines, Polo, Hyde = 3?

MT. you must have a reading problem or you cannot and will not admit your in love with Wallet. ::)
Raines is out injured my friend, didnt get the axe :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on April 04, 2008, 08:23:57 AM
a busy boy Stevie
most the time his not even there  :lol
So he's not busy because he's never in his office?  Makes you wonder how he has achieved such a fabulous result for the club in his time there then doesn't it?  I don't know what you do for a crust or where you have been in your life but I'll take a guess that with such an ignorant and ill-informed comment, not a lot of it has been spent at the pointy end of corporate town.

Fabulous result, you getting to sound like Terry Wallet.
I will take you to task here.
The worst 2 decisions made in this decade at the RFC were to honour Danny Frawleys contract and to give the other clown( wallet) a 5 year contract UNCONDITION!.
ASK Steve Wright about Terry Wallets KPI,s and he will look at you with a blank face  and start talking about another issue.
Corporate World. How on earth do you pay Wallet $600,000 a year with no KPI,s and UNCONDITIONAL!
As for his success of the Grand Prix, dig a bit deeper in regards to losses my friend ;)

Those are 2 entirely conflicting statements mate

In order to avoid ending up with another unproven tool like Frawley, the price we had to pay was a 5 year deal with Wallace.

1) No coach with any experience or track record was going to coach us without some security
2) Frawley had left us in such a state that a new coach needed 2 years just to clean up the mess

Even if Wallace gets sacked at the end of the season, it was still the right decision at the time.
Spot on 1980.

If we are talking KPIs, Wallace's main one when he started was rebuilding the trainwreck of a list for long-term success. It's another reason why Plough got a 5 year contract. It'll be up to the club in 18 months time to judge whether Plough has done that and then judge if he is the right coach to take the next step. 

You say that main reason that Wallace got the 5 year contact was due to KPI,s in regards to rebuilding. ::)
I will explain something for you. The club sets ( well supposedly sets the KPI,s  not the EMPLOYEE, in this instance WALLET)  The club hasnt set any KPI,s for this clown.
KPI,s are measured on a yearly basis Re: performance review.
Example being. Communication with staff members etc etc
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 04, 2008, 08:39:21 AM
KPI,s are measured on a yearly basis Re: performance review.
Example being. Communication with staff members etc etc

There it is folks finally.....

 :lol :rollin :lol

And dare I say it in your estimation Jackie on the above he fails.....

:jump

:ROTFL
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on April 04, 2008, 08:41:42 AM
KPI,s are measured on a yearly basis Re: performance review.
Example being. Communication with staff members etc etc

There it is folks finally.....

 :lol :rollin :lol

And dare I say it in your estimation Jackie on the above he fails.....

:jump

:ROTFL

GET REAL WP !  STAFF MEMBERS = Players.
Might also add this WAS addressed at his review at seasons end last year with changes made re meetings, ask your mate Miller.
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 04, 2008, 08:46:30 AM
GET REAL WP !  STAFF MEMBERS = Players.
Might also add this WAS addressed at his review at seasons end last year with changes made re meetings, ask your mate Miller.

I dont have any mates Jack  ;D

I would have thought changes being made would be a good thing. That's what reviews are for arent they?  :-\

 ;D
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: Little Jackie on April 04, 2008, 08:50:40 AM
GET REAL WP !  STAFF MEMBERS = Players.
Might also add this WAS addressed at his review at seasons end last year with changes made re meetings, ask your mate Miller.

I dont have any mates Jack  ;D

I would have thought changes being made would be a good thing. That's what reviews are for arent they?  :-\

 ;D

Correct, the club forced the changes, not the coach in this instance
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: richmondrules on April 04, 2008, 10:22:54 AM
GET REAL WP !  STAFF MEMBERS = Players.
Might also add this WAS addressed at his review at seasons end last year with changes made re meetings, ask your mate Miller.

I dont have any mates Jack  ;D

I would have thought changes being made would be a good thing. That's what reviews are for arent they?  :-\

 ;D

Correct, the club forced the changes, not the coach in this instance

Can't help getting the feeling Jackstar was reviewed right out of the RFC himself. lol.
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: 1980 on April 04, 2008, 11:50:28 AM
a busy boy Stevie
most the time his not even there  :lol
So he's not busy because he's never in his office?  Makes you wonder how he has achieved such a fabulous result for the club in his time there then doesn't it?  I don't know what you do for a crust or where you have been in your life but I'll take a guess that with such an ignorant and ill-informed comment, not a lot of it has been spent at the pointy end of corporate town.

Fabulous result, you getting to sound like Terry Wallet.
I will take you to task here.
The worst 2 decisions made in this decade at the RFC were to honour Danny Frawleys contract and to give the other clown( wallet) a 5 year contract UNCONDITION!.
ASK Steve Wright about Terry Wallets KPI,s and he will look at you with a blank face  and start talking about another issue.
Corporate World. How on earth do you pay Wallet $600,000 a year with no KPI,s and UNCONDITIONAL!
As for his success of the Grand Prix, dig a bit deeper in regards to losses my friend ;)

Those are 2 entirely conflicting statements mate

In order to avoid ending up with another unproven tool like Frawley, the price we had to pay was a 5 year deal with Wallace.

1) No coach with any experience or track record was going to coach us without some security
2) Frawley had left us in such a state that a new coach needed 2 years just to clean up the mess

Even if Wallace gets sacked at the end of the season, it was still the right decision at the time.
Spot on 1980.

If we are talking KPIs, Wallace's main one when he started was rebuilding the trainwreck of a list for long-term success. It's another reason why Plough got a 5 year contract. It'll be up to the club in 18 months time to judge whether Plough has done that and then judge if he is the right coach to take the next step. 

You say that main reason that Wallace got the 5 year contact was due to KPI,s in regards to rebuilding. ::)
I will explain something for you. The club sets ( well supposedly sets the KPI,s  not the EMPLOYEE, in this instance WALLET)  The club hasnt set any KPI,s for this clown.
KPI,s are measured on a yearly basis Re: performance review.
Example being. Communication with staff members etc etc



Its well understood that it was a coaches market when it came to the RFC in 2004.

1) We didnt want to go through the whole Frawley saga again of getting our 5th choice to coach.
2) We didnt want to get laughed at again or rejected by coaches with experience as we did with Sheedy, Malthouse and Thompson before we appointed Frawley

Yes Wallace had a gun to our heads but as a club, not just the club but the supporters as well, were prepared to pay the price of 5 year contract, no KPIs blah blah.

But if Wallace hasnt taken us to where we need to be over a 5 year contract he'll get sacked, everyone will wantr that, and he will struggle to coach another footy club.





Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: mightytiges on April 04, 2008, 12:23:20 PM
Can tell you they are they are 2 outs :shh
Raines, Polo, Hyde = 3?

MT. you must have a reading problem or you cannot and will not admit your in love with Wallet. ::)
Raines is out injured my friend, didnt get the axe :banghead :banghead
:rollin

Raines is listed under the OUTS and will be replaced by one of the INs. I think someone needs to get a dictionary to understand the difference between "out" and "omitted"  :whistle.
Title: Re: Plough's aftermatch media conference / Wallace flags changes
Post by: mightytiges on April 04, 2008, 12:36:18 PM
a busy boy Stevie
most the time his not even there  :lol
So he's not busy because he's never in his office?  Makes you wonder how he has achieved such a fabulous result for the club in his time there then doesn't it?  I don't know what you do for a crust or where you have been in your life but I'll take a guess that with such an ignorant and ill-informed comment, not a lot of it has been spent at the pointy end of corporate town.

Fabulous result, you getting to sound like Terry Wallet.
I will take you to task here.
The worst 2 decisions made in this decade at the RFC were to honour Danny Frawleys contract and to give the other clown( wallet) a 5 year contract UNCONDITION!.
ASK Steve Wright about Terry Wallets KPI,s and he will look at you with a blank face  and start talking about another issue.
Corporate World. How on earth do you pay Wallet $600,000 a year with no KPI,s and UNCONDITIONAL!
As for his success of the Grand Prix, dig a bit deeper in regards to losses my friend ;)

Those are 2 entirely conflicting statements mate

In order to avoid ending up with another unproven tool like Frawley, the price we had to pay was a 5 year deal with Wallace.

1) No coach with any experience or track record was going to coach us without some security
2) Frawley had left us in such a state that a new coach needed 2 years just to clean up the mess

Even if Wallace gets sacked at the end of the season, it was still the right decision at the time.
Spot on 1980.

If we are talking KPIs, Wallace's main one when he started was rebuilding the trainwreck of a list for long-term success. It's another reason why Plough got a 5 year contract. It'll be up to the club in 18 months time to judge whether Plough has done that and then judge if he is the right coach to take the next step. 

You say that main reason that Wallace got the 5 year contact was due to KPI,s in regards to rebuilding. ::)
I will explain something for you. The club sets ( well supposedly sets the KPI,s  not the EMPLOYEE, in this instance WALLET)  The club hasnt set any KPI,s for this clown.
KPI,s are measured on a yearly basis Re: performance review.
Example being. Communication with staff members etc etc

Jack you said yourself the board was not happy with Kingsley being recruited in the PSD the year before. I would say that's consistent with the club expecting a rebuild of the list as part of Wallace's 5-year term (mainly via youth with no other recruits over 24 y.o.). Rightly or wrongly the club has consistently talked about following a long-term plan and not reacting year by year as we did in the past.