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Tigers staff face chopping block
Stephen Rielly | The Australian | July 26, 2008
RICHMOND's football department will undergo a makeover at the season's end, with long-time head of operations Greg Miller and one or more of coach Terry Wallace's assistants expected to lose their jobs.
While a review of the department, conducted by president Gary March and directors Peggy Haines and Michael O'Shannassy, continues, it is understood changes will be made once the Tigers' season ends, with Miller and, perhaps, two others to go in what will amount to the most serious overhaul the club has seen since Wallace was appointed coach four years ago.
The club has already spoken to former player Craig Lambert, who is working with Leigh Matthews' side in Brisbane, and had approached Michael Voss. In parallel, former Richmond captain Tony Free, who accepted an invitation to join the board in mid-June, has been conducting his own assessment of the department that has been interpreted by some within the club as a sure sign that change is imminent.
Free is understood to believe that a wholesale shake-out, if not a purge, is required if the club is to reach the next stage of its development, a position which is scarcely going to settle Wallace's nerves as he approaches the last year of his contract in 2009.
Only days ago, Wallace made a public plea for stability, knowing well that at Richmond patience is not always in strong supply.
March denied last night that Free is drawing up plans to level the department, describing his interest in the workings of Miller and Wallace's operation as a familiarisation exercise, not a review.
"To say Tony has been involved in that is factually incorrect," March said. "He is, categorically, not conducting a review of the footy department. He is learning about the department, though, because he's new to the board."
Miller, the former North Melbourne chief executive, joined Richmond in 2002 when Danny Frawley was coach. He was influential in recruiting Wallace to Richmond on a five-year deal in late 2004 as Frawley's replacement.
Together, they have been the most powerful football figures at Richmond since, with Wallace having also had long-time allies by his side in assistant coach Brian Royal and football manager Paul Armstrong. Jade Rawlings, David King and development coach Craig McRae flesh out the current team of assistant coaches at Punt Road.
Miller, who resigned as a director last month to allow Free to move into his seat at the board table, said yesterday he was unaware of any decisions being already made but did not discount the possibility they would come. Significantly, he said that he thought Free would have a bearing on any changes that are made.
"Tony is a new director and he's trying to learn and find out as much as he can. He hasn't been in the game for 10 or 12 years. Certainly he's around in all of our departments, gathering information, but what that ultimately leads to or what his conclusions are will be interesting," Miller said.
"I think it would have been hard to draw any conclusions yet. I know Tony is very keen and committed, but I hope that's not the case."
March said that the club always intended to add a second development coach to the staff at the end of the season and was thinking of hiring another assistant coach in any case. These would be additions to the existing number of coaches. He conceded, though, that this did not preclude departures and further signings.
"Is there any big shake-up at the moment? No there's not," March said. "Are we likely to add a development coach? Probably, yeah, and we might add elsewhere. But there's no-one in the gun at the moment."
Of Miller he added, somewhat equivocally: "Greg? Well, I think he said at the start of the year that if things didn't go well we could all be out of a job."
It is believed that a preliminary short list of potential candidates for Miller's position has already been drawn up, with relatively young, contemporary football executives the preference.
March, O'Shannassy and Haines held their first lengthy fact-finding briefings with senior members of the football department approximately four weeks ago, not long after Free took up his position as the director responsible for football.
With six rounds of the regular season still to play, the Tigers have more than doubled the number of wins they managed last year (three) and have some slim chance of playing finals for the first time in Wallace's tenure.
Against this, the club has still won only 31 of 82 matches in his near-four years and not finished higher than ninth in any season. The side is currently 10th.
It is understood that a good part of the agitation for change around Wallace stems from the view that the side is in roughly the same position it was four years ago - mid-table with Matthew Richardson still the best player and Nathan Brown coming to the rescue when he is not, as happened against Essendon last week.
Richardson, Brown, captain Kane Johnson and veteran Joel Bowden are all likely to be gone within the next three years and even if they are replaced in time by the likes of Trent Cotchin and Brett Deledio this will not necessarily allow the side to get significantly better than it is at present.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24078732-2722,00.html
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Ignore rumours, still Greg Miller time at Richmond
Mike Sheahan | Herald-Sun July 26, 2008
RICHMOND'S veteran director of football Greg Miller last night described rumours of his impending removal as unfounded.
Miller, who has spent nearly six years at Punt Road, said he was unaware of a supposed shake-up of the football department.
"Rumour and innuendo, that's what I believe," he told the Herald Sun.
"I'm very pleased with how the club's going; couldn't be in better shape."
Miller confirmed that new director Tony Free, a former club captain, had launched an aggressive review of the football department. Ironically, it is only a month since Free took Miller's seat at the board table.
The rumour of mounting pressure on Miller swept football late last night after murmurings, apparently emanating out of Perth, in the past 10 days.
Oddly, the Tigers look better placed now than they have in years. They are 10th after 16 games, have won their past two, and will press for a place in the eight if they can beat the Brisbane Lions at Telstra Dome tonight.
As unlikely as any major change seems at this point, we are talking Richmond.
Richmond president Gary March could not be reached last night. He is understood to be in Brisbane.
Coach Terry Wallace said he knew nothing on the rumour. "I've been told zero and I know zero," he said.
Miller, 55, joined Richmond in October 2002 under the leadership of then president Clinton Casey.
He spent the previous 12 months out of the AFL scene after 17 years at North Melbourne, where he held a variety of roles including that of chief executive.
He is a former Richmond under-19 player who crossed to South Melbourne and played 52 games in the 1970s before starting his career in administration as the Swans' recruiting officer.
"I think common sense will prevail," he said last night.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24079091-19742,00.html
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Why now bring up these off-field shananagins on the back of 4 wins out of 5 and with a season-defining game tonight?! ::)
And why bring someone onto the board who needs to "learn" about the footy dept after 10-12 years out of the game :-\ ???.
It is understood that a good part of the agitation for change around Wallace stems from the view that the side is in roughly the same position it was four years ago - mid-table with Matthew Richardson still the best player and Nathan Brown coming to the rescue when he is not, as happened against Essendon last week.
Richo didn't play last week or the week before and we won both games and we had 10 Tigers 21 y.o. or under playing against Essendon. Oh but nothing has changed - morons! ::)
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The Australian :whistle
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Its about 3 years too late. as I have said for the past 3 years, the footy dept is just a boys club, Terrys mates and thats it.
Amazing how Steve Alessio got the flick as ruck coach for Damian Monkhurst, a friend of Wallet.
About time someone fixed the issues. :thumbsup
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It does look like TW might survive.
Although a loss tonight might change everything.
Crucial game for Terry and for the RFC.
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I don't have a problem if they get rid of Miller
But I wouldn't have a problem if they kept him either.
Watching Roughead and Franklin run around last night was sad. I'm not making a slight against Lids and Tambo, but two big men were what was needed at the time I would have thought after we had drafted so many smalls.
But I'm not totally unhappy with them either.
I guess it's just a matter of opinion and Greg better hope opinion is on his side otherwise he might be on his way.
Whoever they get Free better be right.
He started his regime with a big black mark on him as far as I'm concerned ;) leaving little faith in whether he's the right person for his own job, let alone Miller's ::)
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Its about 3 years too late. as I have said for the past 3 years, the footy dept is just a boys club, Terrys mates and thats it.
Were King, Rawlings or McCrae Terry's mates when they were brought to the club? That's 3 of the 4 main assistant coaches.
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slow news week
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Its about 3 years too late. as I have said for the past 3 years, the footy dept is just a boys club, Terrys mates and thats it.
Amazing how Steve Alessio got the flick as ruck coach for Damian Monkhurst, a friend of Wallet.
About time someone fixed the issues. :thumbsup
Then you surely would be questioning Free talking to Lambert then if you're so concerned about boys clubs ::)
I take it you would not approve of that then :rollin
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Just heard a rumour (at the local post office so it is dodgy mail to say the least)
TW to announce he is stepping down at the end of the season for health reasons.
Has anybody else heard this?
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Nah, if it's important mail via Australia Post it won't arrive for at least another week.
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Just read the same thing on the other site (name not to be mentioned, Hi Rosy).
Which probably means it's crap.
:cheers
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if one good thing comes out of this "rumour mill" hyperbole thats encased tigerland ove rthe last week or two, its brought all the boards alive.
its also shown who the real drama queens are on too.
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Its about 3 years too late. as I have said for the past 3 years, the footy dept is just a boys club, Terrys mates and thats it.
Amazing how Steve Alessio got the flick as ruck coach for Damian Monkhurst, a friend of Wallet.
About time someone fixed the issues. :thumbsup
Then you surely would be questioning Free talking to Lambert then if you're so concerned about boys clubs ::)
I take it you would not approve of that then :rollin
Have no problem with Craig :thumbsup
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From what I was told earlier this year Lambert has no time for Richmond. So much so he doesn't want his son being picked up by us under the F/S rule when he is eligible.
I have no problem with a review of the footy dept or if assistant coaches are changed which would be a good thing or if Miller is moved on. It's the timing of this that is stupid given our season is still alive ::). Why not wait until the end of the season to do a review like Geelong did after 2006. Also the way the article is written it makes Freezer sound as though he is on work experience :-\.
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I don't have a problem if they get rid of Miller
But I wouldn't have a problem if they kept him either.
Watching Roughead and Franklin run around last night was sad. I'm not making a slight against Lids and Tambo, but two big men were what was needed at the time I would have thought after we had drafted so many smalls.
But I'm not totally unhappy with them either.
I guess it's just a matter of opinion and Greg better hope opinion is on his side otherwise he might be on his way.
Whoever they get Free better be right.
He started his regime with a big black mark on him as far as I'm concerned ;) leaving little faith in whether he's the right person for his own job, let alone Miller's ::)
im happy we took Lids at 1 because i believe he will be the next cooney or g ablett.
tambling well its best we admit we got that one wrong and move him to another club.
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we did not get tambling wrong ffs
some ppl esp tiger fans can be so thick!
tambling is progressing very well and will be a star, not a flash in the pan in 1 or 2 years, but a consistant performer who will become elite.
just wait and see and all his knockers will eat their words and become obese on humble pie
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The club has already spoken to former player Craig Lambert, who is working with Leigh Matthews' side in Brisbane,
Very highly regarded up here. Would love us to get Lambert on board.
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lambert turned his back on us, and as mt has stated, many times has rubbished us. why the hell we would we want him back.
leave him be so he can keep working on his tan. we have a tanned one already, even though it may be fake lol
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The Richmond Football club will never learn. If this news is true about Miller & King going with Wallace in the firing line when we are on the verge of finals it may as well just be the end of us. I'm absolutely gobsmacked at the stupidity of such a move.
Seeing as it appears that this has all come about from a review by Tony Free, it makes it pretty obvious that Free really was Tonys-A-Tiger on Y&B as he's carried his agenda from the website through to the club.
I cannot believe that a captain of the club who experienced ZERO success while he was there, is now chasing some of his ex-player mates who also brought no success to the club to take over the reigns. The fact that some of you think this is a good idea doesn't surprise me as your egos get in the way of common sense.
I hope this is just a beat up, but it looks like it's time to look for another club to support.
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The Richmond Football club will never learn. If this news is true about Miller & King going with Wallace in the firing line when we are on the verge of finals it may as well just be the end of us. I'm absolutely gobsmacked at the stupidity of such a move.
Seeing as it appears that this has all come about from a review by Tony Free, it makes it pretty obvious that Free really was Tonys-A-Tiger on Y&B as he's carried his agenda from the website through to the club.
I cannot believe that a captain of the club who experienced ZERO success while he was there, is now chasing some of his ex-player mates who also brought no success to the club to take over the reigns. The fact that some of you think this is a good idea doesn't surprise me as your egos get in the way of common sense.
I hope this is just a beat up, but it looks like it's time to look for another club to support.
Well said, Infamy.
We're replacing people who've known success at other clubs with people from our most unsuccessful era.
Hardly engenders enthusiasm.
:banghead
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The Richmond Football club will never learn. If this news is true about Miller & King going with Wallace in the firing line when we are on the verge of finals it may as well just be the end of us. I'm absolutely gobsmacked at the stupidity of such a move.
Seeing as it appears that this has all come about from a review by Tony Free, it makes it pretty obvious that Free really was Tonys-A-Tiger on Y&B as he's carried his agenda from the website through to the club.
I cannot believe that a captain of the club who experienced ZERO success while he was there, is now chasing some of his ex-player mates who also brought no success to the club to take over the reigns. The fact that some of you think this is a good idea doesn't surprise me as your egos get in the way of common sense.
I hope this is just a beat up, but it looks like it's time to look for another club to support.
Here hear Infamy.
My sentiments eactly
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lambert turned his back on us, and as mt has stated, many times has rubbished us. why the hell we would we want him back.
leave him be so he can keep working on his tan. we have a tanned one already, even though it may be fake lol
i thought u would have been too young to remember Lambert, acoording to the age u claim u were in ur pm
:scream
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Tony Free sitting in the box to check out Wallace's coaching
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The Richmond Football club will never learn. If this news is true about Miller & King going with Wallace in the firing line when we are on the verge of finals it may as well just be the end of us. I'm absolutely gobsmacked at the stupidity of such a move.
Seeing as it appears that this has all come about from a review by Tony Free, it makes it pretty obvious that Free really was Tonys-A-Tiger on Y&B as he's carried his agenda from the website through to the club.
I cannot believe that a captain of the club who experienced ZERO success while he was there, is now chasing some of his ex-player mates who also brought no success to the club to take over the reigns. The fact that some of you think this is a good idea doesn't surprise me as your egos get in the way of common sense.
I hope this is just a beat up, but it looks like it's time to look for another club to support.
What about the review March himself is doing? Are you claiming Free's review overrides the president's?
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lambert turned his back on us, and as mt has stated, many times has rubbished us. why the hell we would we want him back.
leave him be so he can keep working on his tan. we have a tanned one already, even though it may be fake lol
Lambert was shown the door after he asked the board if they had any clue what they were doing (which they didnt)
And he's been an assistant to one of the best premiership coaches in football history
Wont hurt if you check your facts next time
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It's crap like this that has been the reason Richmond has been a laughing stock for the past 26 years if not before that if you include Hafey's sacking. Good clubs keep reviews like this in house and to the end of the season. Imagine what a laughing stock we'll be if we were to make the finals and we have decided to get rid of our entire footy dept. 5 wins from the past 6 games and we have to put up with the same old off-field BS that destabilises the club ::). As infamy said this club never learns :banghead.
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lambert turned his back on us, and as mt has stated, many times has rubbished us. why the hell we would we want him back.
leave him be so he can keep working on his tan. we have a tanned one already, even though it may be fake lol
Lambert was shown the door after he asked the board if they had any clue what they were doing (which they didnt)
And he's been an assistant to one of the best premiership coaches in football history
Wont hurt if you check your facts next time
You are correct 1980.
Craig and his family probably wont return to Victoria though.
Interesting that his wife is bridesmaid at Jonathon Browns wedding in October ;)
Craig is pretty close to all at Brisbane.
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;D chop chop chop, let me sharpen that axe :lol
Jack its happening ;D some got found out ;D axe is in full swing
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;D chop chop chop, let me sharpen that axe :lol
Jack its happening ;D some got found out ;D axe is in full swing
Hey Monk, been telling you all for ages the place had employed imbeciles. ::) More to get the axe!
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Caro says there's those at the club who don't think the team is ready and don't want us to make the finals only to get flogged.
Leaked at either funerals and weddings and there's been a few funerals lately sadly.
Miller has had 6 years so he's had his go and the club hasn't seen any success. Dismissed the club is a rabble talk. Said Frawley had 5 years and got the flick so Greg shouldn't have been surprised after 6 and once he stepped off the board (which made him unsackable) he should've known the writing was on the wall.
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Caro says there's those at the club who don't think the team is ready and don't want us to make the finals only to get flogged.
Now those are the sort of people that need to be weeded out and gotten rid of by the club. weak cowards.
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Caro says there's those at the club who don't think the team is ready and don't want us to make the finals only to get flogged.
Now those are the sort of people that need to be weeded out and gotten rid of by the club. weak cowards.
There's some on here, and it's not because they fear we'll get flogged ;)
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Caro says there's those at the club who don't think the team is ready and don't want us to make the finals only to get flogged.
Now those are the sort of people that need to be weeded out and gotten rid of by the club. weak cowards.
I have said multiple times that the list at the moment is only capable of reaching the bottom rungs of the 8 (consistently) we have not assembled the talent to win us a flag. The people at the club understand this - because it is the REALITY, nevertheless I think its important we make the 8. For the supporters but more importantly for the players, for the older players like Richo to get some reward in his career but also for the youngsters like Deledio Cotchin et al - to get this experience would be good for them.
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Caro says there's those at the club who don't think the team is ready and don't want us to make the finals only to get flogged.
Leaked at either funerals and weddings and there's been a few funerals lately sadly.
Miller has had 6 years so he's had his go and the club hasn't seen any success. Dismissed the club is a rabble talk. Said Frawley had 5 years and got the flick so Greg shouldn't have been surprised after 6 and once he stepped off the board (which made him unsackable) he should've known the writing was on the wall.
The biggest problem I have with this is that Caro's connections are to the old power brokers who started our whole demise 25 years ago. They refuse to step aside thinking they know best for the club, despite doing nothing but damage to it for a quarter of a century. I wish they'd all just fork orf.
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Caro says there's those at the club who don't think the team is ready and don't want us to make the finals only to get flogged.
Now those are the sort of people that need to be weeded out and gotten rid of by the club. weak cowards.
There's some on here, and it's not because they fear we'll get flogged ;)
Give it a rest Moi, you are becoming boring.
I have said all along the people need to go. Get used it, because it happening
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Caro says there's those at the club who don't think the team is ready and don't want us to make the finals only to get flogged.
Now those are the sort of people that need to be weeded out and gotten rid of by the club. weak cowards.
There's some on here, and it's not because they fear we'll get flogged ;)
Moi i dont know you but that is a very stupid comment to say.
every richmond supporter wants to make FINALS. twice since 1982 come on who wouldnt get excited about going to a final to see richmond play.
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;D chop chop chop, let me sharpen that axe :lol
Jack its happening ;D some got found out ;D axe is in full swing
Hey Monk, been telling you all for ages the place had employed imbeciles. ::) More to get the axe!
l know Jack :thumbsup some here who sit at home watching the news, radio shows & watching games on tv saying this & that is safe at the club have no idea, nobody likes buisness leaks & interests in other buisnesses :lol its time to go chop chop. Still dont tust the weasel in the new role, hope his a scapegoat & gets the chop as well
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;D chop chop chop, let me sharpen that axe :lol
Jack its happening ;D some got found out ;D axe is in full swing
Hey Monk, been telling you all for ages the place had employed imbeciles. ::) More to get the axe!
l know Jack :thumbsup some here who sit at home watching the news, radio shows & watching games on tv saying this & that is safe at the club have no idea, nobody likes buisness leaks & interests in other buisnesses :lol its time to go chop chop. Still dont tust the weasel in the new role, hope his a scapegoat & gets the chop as well
I know where your coming from. :shh :thumbsup
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;D chop chop chop, let me sharpen that axe :lol
Jack its happening ;D some got found out ;D axe is in full swing
Hey Monk, been telling you all for ages the place had employed imbeciles. ::) More to get the axe!
l know Jack :thumbsup some here who sit at home watching the news, radio shows & watching games on tv saying this & that is safe at the club have no idea, nobody likes buisness leaks & interests in other buisnesses :lol its time to go chop chop. Still dont tust the weasel in the new role, hope his a scapegoat & gets the chop as well
I know where your coming from. :shh :thumbsup
;D
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What's the deal when a coach comes to a club?
Is it he who gets to appoint his assistants or do the board pick them.
I would have thought that should be the coach's prerogative.
Is it Free's job to appoint them or to make recommendations which the coach can either take the advice of or not??
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SEN are mocking Richmond. Dermie saying whenever something like this happens you know as an opposition club you only need to worry about 14 other teams rather than 15. Eddie reckons there'll be other ramifications from this like our recruiter Francis Jackson, who is Miller's best mate, walking out too.
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Wonder how much this has to do with interfering President's men and their idiot ;) mates :banghead
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SEN are mocking Richmond. Dermie saying whenever something like this happens you know as an opposition club you only need to worry about 14 other teams rather than 15. Eddie reckons there'll be other ramifications from this like our recruiter Francis Jackson, who is Miller's best mate, walking out too.
dermie is fos
look at our spirit and comeback v the lions. did dermie miss that. seems like the boys were not effected. they play football, they are not part of off field politics. so did brisbane not worry about us hey
rubbish!
dermie is just stressing becaue he know we are in better shape , have better structures and better depth that the hawks and we are close to them its not funny. he knows they have more experience than us and he knows next year we will overtake the hawks. i am positive we will beat the hawks in a few weeks
fear the sleeping giant
THE TIGERS ARE COMING!
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Wonder how much this has to do with interfering President's men and their idiot ;) mates :banghead
And their puppet on the board (or should that be muppet lol).
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Wonder how much this has to do with interfering President's men and their idiot ;) mates :banghead
And their puppet on the board (or should that be muppet lol).
I suppose you and Moi are all for first year coaches getting $100,000 lol ::) ::)
And can tell you Miller had it coming. More than meets the eye in all this ;)
Whats of real interest is the meeting tonight between Miller, Casey, and March
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All i hear from Dermie and co is how much we have botched our recruiting over the last few years(espc 2004-2005) yet
when we get rid of the person more responsible than anyone else for that he sinks the boots in..
Go figure..
As for Jackson leaving then good riddance if he is unhappy about this..
I would have thought he would be happy that we might not trade as many draft picks away
now that he is gone...
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Craig Cameron can call the names on draft day Im sure, if Jackson leaves he leaves, Im sure Cameron knows whose who in the juniors.
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All i hear from Dermie and co is how much we have botched our recruiting over the last few years(espc 2004-2005) yet
when we get rid of the person more responsible than anyone else for that he sinks the boots in..
Go figure..
As for Jackson leaving then good riddance if he is unhappy about this..
I would have thought he would be happy that we might not trade as many draft picks away
now that he is gone...
Another job for the boys, Francis Jackson, oh dear, Millers best mate, I forgot about him, has little idea as well,
Maybe the Hammerheads could be back in 2009 on Channell 7, theres a job for Miller and Jackson
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Whats of real interest is the meeting tonight between Miller, Casey, and March
Mail or fact, or both, perhaps neither ;D
Another job for the boys, Francis Jackson, oh dear, Millers best mate, I forgot about him, has little idea as well,
Hmmm..... no idea... what were therse selections:
COTCHIN - you may have heard the "experts' reckon he is a gem.... Alex Rance? Putt? Gourdis?
No clue :banghead yeh right ::)
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Another job for the boys
Yet you don't mind Free bringing in his mates in Campbell and Lambert.
You are full of hypocrisy :banghead
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Is there anyone down at tigerland you think is doing a good job Jackstar??
A bootstudder , the doorman perhaps? Wright?
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Another job for the boys
Yet you don't mind Free bringing in his mates in Campbell and Lambert.
You are full of hypocrisy :banghead
I would be amazed if Lambert would come to Melbourne for any job - he is firmly entrenched in Qld - (I know his uncle, FACT :D)
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Wonder how much this has to do with interfering President's men and their idiot ;) mates :banghead
And their puppet on the board (or should that be muppet lol).
I suppose you and Moi are all for first year coaches getting $100,000 lol ::) ::)
And can tell you Miller had it coming. More than meets the eye in all this ;)
Whats of real interest is the meeting tonight between Miller, Casey, and March
I didn't mention any coaches so your first line makes no sense whatsoever!
I'm not for being so stupid and incompetent as to create off-field issues at a time when the side is actually showing signs of genuine improvement and winning games. It was a gutsy win last night but what are we at Richmond talking about today - off-field crap ::).
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Whats of real interest is the meeting tonight between Miller, Casey, and March
Mail or fact, or both, perhaps neither ;D
Another job for the boys, Francis Jackson, oh dear, Millers best mate, I forgot about him, has little idea as well,
Hmmm..... no idea... what were therse selections:
COTCHIN - you may have heard the "experts' reckon he is a gem.... Alex Rance? Putt? Gourdis?
No clue :banghead yeh right ::)
Bit biased there WP.
Meeting is tonight, at the MOMENT in fact. want the address perhaps? Lol
Blind man freddy would have picked Cotchin ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Yep, Rance Putt and Gourdis havent played a game yet so you can hang your hat on them
Told you about Millers ages ago, :banghead
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Another job for the boys
Yet you don't mind Free bringing in his mates in Campbell and Lambert.
You are full of hypocrisy :banghead
I would be amazed if Lambert would come to Melbourne for any job - he is firmly entrenched in Qld - (I know his uncle, FACT :D)
He can stay there.
He deserted us and apparently doesn't want his kid playing for us.
Screw him!
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Another job for the boys
Yet you don't mind Free bringing in his mates in Campbell and Lambert.
You are full of hypocrisy :banghead
I would be amazed if Lambert would come to Melbourne for any job - he is firmly entrenched in Qld - (I know his uncle, FACT :D)
Craig wife is bridemaid at Jonathon Browns wedding in Oct, he aint going no where, loves QLD
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Another job for the boys
Yet you don't mind Free bringing in his mates in Campbell and Lambert.
You are full of hypocrisy :banghead
I would be amazed if Lambert would come to Melbourne for any job - he is firmly entrenched in Qld - (I know his uncle, FACT :D)
He can stay there.
He deserted us and apparently doesn't want his kid playing for us.
Screw him!
Total CRAP
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Bit biased there WP.
Meeting is tonight, at the MOMENT in fact. want the address perhaps? Lol
Blind man freddy would have picked Cotchin ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Yep, Rance Putt and Gourdis havent played a game yet so you can hang your hat on them
Told you about Millers ages ago, :banghead
No not biased Jack....
No I don't need addresses ;) ;D
And yes you did say months ago GMiller was gawn..... I was hoping you were off the mark and that stability would prevail and egos would not dictate but sadly it seems things don't change as much they should ....
I am not going to get into a debate with you over the "descision" but will repeat what I posted on the other thread ...the way it has happened(via the media), is nothing short of disgusting.
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Jack was right. At a meeting tonight Greg Miller and Gary March met. Greg Miller has now officially left the club: source SEN 9pm news.
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Sorry one out of 50 guesses/predictions/vindictive mutterings does not make Jack right.
It just means that Jack knew one thing. The other 49 he is still incorrect on.
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Sorry one out of 50 guesses/predictions/vindictive mutterings does not make Jack right.
It just means that Jack knew one thing. The other 49 he is still incorrect on.
You idiot, you just beleive what you want, more axing to come sunshine ;)
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Sorry one out of 50 guesses/predictions/vindictive mutterings does not make Jack right.
It just means that Jack knew one thing. The other 49 he is still incorrect on.
You idiot, you just beleive what you want, more axing to come sunshine ;)
Ah yes, when caught out resort to abuse and name calling. A tool of the highest order.
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Bit biased there WP.
Meeting is tonight, at the MOMENT in fact. want the address perhaps? Lol
Blind man freddy would have picked Cotchin ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Yep, Rance Putt and Gourdis havent played a game yet so you can hang your hat on them
Told you about Millers ages ago, :banghead
No not biased Jack....
No I don't need addresses ;) ;D
And yes you did say months ago GMiller was gawn..... I was hoping you were off the mark and that stability would prevail and egos would not dictate but sadly it seems things don't change as much they should ....
I am not going to get into a debate with you over the "descision" but will repeat what I posted on the other thread ...the way it has happened(via the media), is nothing short of disgusting.
Interesting , MORE to go ;)
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Sorry one out of 50 guesses/predictions/vindictive mutterings does not make Jack right.
It just means that Jack knew one thing. The other 49 he is still incorrect on.
You idiot, you just beleive what you want, more axing to come sunshine ;)
Ah yes, when caught out resort to abuse and name calling. A tool of the highest order.
Look here mate, I only post what I am told, if you dont beleive it, thats YOUR problem not mine. If you dont think there are problems behind the scences at Punt Road, good luck to you, . As for saying 49 incorrect, lol thats your opinion.
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Interesting , MORE to go ;)
Please don't gloat Jack it doesn't become you ;D Not that it will stop you
You may find it interesting I find it all rather pathetic to be honest.....
No offense to you Jack but the FACT that you knew a meeting was taking place tonight is just another indictment on the Club. Now I am not sure where you heard it from (perhaps one of your journo mates and I do know you have 'em) but that is continues to played out in the media is appalling ...
That you appear to be getting so much satisfaction and pleasure from all of this is ..... well just you I suppose :help :lol
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Basically WP, he's trying to screw the club, and he's got his little supporters on here who think that's great
When the club is stuffed with the people they bring in to replace the great work done by so many people to get this club on the straight and narrow they'll be happy
Sad little creatures :banghead
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I get no satisfaction out of this.
Info came from club . leave it at that.
The only upside i see is that they get quality personnel at the club.
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Basically WP, he's trying to screw the club, and he's got his little supporters on here who think that's great
When the club is stuffed with the people they bring in to replace the great work done by so many people to get this club on the straight and narrow they'll be happy
Sad little creatures :banghead
Your sad, you dont realise the club has got ""bozos"" running it at the moment, now what were David Kings qualifications :banghead
Jade Rawlings :banghead Brian Royal, oh yeah, he Terrys friend, Paul Armstrong, yep another friend, Monkhurst, yep another friend, Lets dont forget Wayne Johnson, Yep another friend. :banghead
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I get no satisfaction out of this.
Yep, that's just so obvious :banghead
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I get no satisfaction out of this.
Yep, that's just so obvious :banghead
Hey, I went last night, not like some on here who say they support and dont go, lol
Best win for 10 years last night.
This isnt about me by the way, I didnt employ them,
Am off to bed, sick of arguing with idiots :banghead
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Sorry one out of 50 guesses/predictions/vindictive mutterings does not make Jack right.
It just means that Jack knew one thing. The other 49 he is still incorrect on.
You idiot, you just beleive what you want, more axing to come sunshine ;)
Ah yes, when caught out resort to abuse and name calling. A tool of the highest order.
Look here mate, I only post what I am told, if you dont beleive it, thats YOUR problem not mine. If you dont think there are problems behind the scences at Punt Road, good luck to you, . As for saying 49 incorrect, lol thats your opinion.
Well there obviously is if off-field crap can distract from a winning team ::). As WP said it's not the decision it's the way this has been handled. Incompetency of the highest order but so typical of the RFC for the past 26 years. Always shooting ourselves in the foot ::).
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I get no satisfaction out of this.
Info came from club . leave it at that.
The only upside i see is that they get quality personnel at the club.
Info came from the Club..... well that's the problem there in the nutshell ..... is that the quality personnel we are talking about Jack.... ::) :banghead
I suppose it all depends on what you define as quality.....
I don't see much "quality" in the actions over the last 48 hours
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I get no satisfaction out of this.
Info came from club . leave it at that.
The only upside i see is that they get quality personnel at the club.
Info came from the Club..... well that's the problem there in the nutshell ..... is that the quality personnel we are talking about Jack.... ::) :banghead
I suppose it all depends on what you define as quality.....
I don't see much "quality" in the actions over the last 48 hours
Hey we agree on something.
EITHER DO I. I dont see much quality there either, been saying that for ages
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Your sad, you dont realise the club has got ""bozos"" running it at the moment, now what were David Kings qualifications :banghead
Jade Rawlings :banghead Brian Royal, oh yeah, he Terrys friend, Paul Armstrong, yep another friend, Monkhurst, yep another friend, Lets dont forget Wayne Johnson, Yep another friend. :banghead
David King was a premiership defender with the very powerful Roos side, I think that is credentials enough and I haven't heard any bad things said about his coaching ability. If you want an ex-player just finished his playing career, I can't see why David King wouldn't be a genuine contender. Certainly better credentialed than guys like Wayne Campbell.
Brian Royal was an experienced AFL assistant coach and was credited with turning around the skills of the Western Bulldogs. Sure he may have been Wallace's mate, but you want to surround yourself with people you trust and have a good working relationship with.
Jade Rawlings I've never been convinced of, but the ability of a player never determines their coaching ability. Monkhorst was a better solution than other ruck coaches we've had in the past who never even played in the ruck.
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Your sad, you dont realise the club has got ""bozos"" running it at the moment, now what were David Kings qualifications :banghead
Jade Rawlings :banghead Brian Royal, oh yeah, he Terrys friend, Paul Armstrong, yep another friend, Monkhurst, yep another friend, Lets dont forget Wayne Johnson, Yep another friend. :banghead
David King was a premiership defender with the very powerful Roos side, I think that is credentials enough and I haven't heard any bad things said about his coaching ability. If you want an ex-player just finished his playing career, I can't see why David King wouldn't be a genuine contender. Certainly better credentialed than guys like Wayne Campbell.
Brian Royal was an experienced AFL assistant coach and was credited with turning around the skills of the Western Bulldogs. Sure he may have been Wallace's mate, but you want to surround yourself with people you trust and have a good working relationship with.
Jade Rawlings I've never been convinced of, but the ability of a player never determines their coaching ability. Monkhorst was a better solution than other ruck coaches we've had in the past who never even played in the ruck.
Steve Alessio was ruck coach before Monkhurst. ::) He got the flick for Monkhurst who is a close friend of Wallet. Alessio nows runs AFL Sportsready.
Wayne Campbell will be an AFL cocah one day, David King wont.
Wayne is extremely good strategic wise.
As for Brian Royal, nice bloke and thats where its ends, if he didnt have Terry he wouldnt have a job, he would go back to being a builder.
Infamy, dont write if you dont know anything about them :banghead
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Steve Alessio was ruck coach before Monkhurst. ::) He got the flick for Monkhurst who is a close friend of Wallet. Alessio nows runs AFL Sportsready.
Wayne Campbell will be an AFL cocah one day, David King wont.
Wayne is extremely good strategic wise.
As for Brian Royal, nice bloke and thats where its ends, if he didnt have Terry he wouldnt have a job, he would go back to being a builder.
Infamy, dont write if you dont know anything about them :banghead
So you're the only one who's allowed to post about our coaches seeing as you're the only one who knows everything about everyone? Perhaps you should start your own forum seeing as your opinion is the only one that matters.
FACT is we poached Royal from Melbourne, another AFL club, he hasn't been out of the AFL at all since becoming an assistant coach, so for you to say he'd be back to being a builder is just crap.
Not sure how you can be so convinced of Campbell's strategic ability seeing as he's been an assistant coach for what a couple of months now?
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Your sad, you dont realise the club has got ""bozos"" running it at the moment, now what were David Kings qualifications :banghead
Jade Rawlings :banghead Brian Royal, oh yeah, he Terrys friend, Paul Armstrong, yep another friend, Monkhurst, yep another friend, Lets dont forget Wayne Johnson, Yep another friend. :banghead
David King was a premiership defender with the very powerful Roos side, I think that is credentials enough and I haven't heard any bad things said about his coaching ability. If you want an ex-player just finished his playing career, I can't see why David King wouldn't be a genuine contender. Certainly better credentialed than guys like Wayne Campbell.
Brian Royal was an experienced AFL assistant coach and was credited with turning around the skills of the Western Bulldogs. Sure he may have been Wallace's mate, but you want to surround yourself with people you trust and have a good working relationship with.
Jade Rawlings I've never been convinced of, but the ability of a player never determines their coaching ability. Monkhorst was a better solution than other ruck coaches we've had in the past who never even played in the ruck.
look infamy you have a one track mind.
you think everybody thats played or been part of a premiership has what it takes to be successful .
and people who havent won a premiership are poo.
choco has not won a premiership as a player or as an assistant and he was part of a very very powerful footscray team that couldnt win a premiership under wallace.
king is a good assistant at the moment ,but l would like to see him coach a vfl team to see what hes like .
dont judge people because they havent won a premiership ,because you would be overlooking alot of very talented people.
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Not sure how you can be so convinced of Campbell's strategic ability seeing as he's been an assistant coach for what a couple of months now?
And especially how, as a player, he was just as maligned as Bowden or Johnson for his propensity to 'prop, stop, look around and go sideways with a dinky little kick'. He didn't display many attacking qualities as a player (the very thing we are trying to implement in our gameplan) and never learnt in a successful club or from a successful coach. And I'm not a Campbell-basher, just don't see how his resume equates to "extremely good strategic-wise". More likely a case of another coaching no-namer doing an apprenticeship at Richmond.
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Not sure how you can be so convinced of Campbell's strategic ability seeing as he's been an assistant coach for what a couple of months now?
And especially how, as a player, he was just as maligned as Bowden or Johnson for his propensity to 'prop, stop, look around and go sideways with a dinky little kick'. He didn't display many attacking qualities as a player (the very thing we are trying to implement in our gameplan) and never learnt in a successful club or from a successful coach. And I'm not a Campbell-basher, just don't see how his resume equates to "extremely good strategic-wise". More likely a case of another coaching no-namer doing an apprenticeship at Richmond.
but if you remember smokey it wasnt like cambo had alot to kick too.
richo always had 2 or 3 on him and the rest of the forwardline was passengers just sitting back watching.
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but if you remember smokey it wasnt like cambo had alot to kick too.
richo always had 2 or 3 on him and the rest of the forwardline was passengers just sitting back watching.
Yep, true but Campbell played in 2 preliminary final teams and my memory was of him (for his whole career) being one of the absolute worst culprits of the 'Richmond disease'. I've got nothing against the guy who was a great Tiger for his whole career - he also had some interaction with my family at a very personal level and I can't talk highly enough about his actions at that time - I just think he would need to have changed or learnt a lot about creating and implementing attacking gameplans since his playing days.
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David King doesn't have a contract - he just said so on 3aw.
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David King doesn't have a contract - he just said so on 3aw.
As I said in an earlier post, his contract ends at years end. Wont be renewed ;)
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Your sad, you dont realise the club has got ""bozos"" running it at the moment, now what were David Kings qualifications :banghead
Jade Rawlings :banghead Brian Royal, oh yeah, he Terrys friend, Paul Armstrong, yep another friend, Monkhurst, yep another friend, Lets dont forget Wayne Johnson, Yep another friend. :banghead
David King was a premiership defender with the very powerful Roos side, I think that is credentials enough and I haven't heard any bad things said about his coaching ability. If you want an ex-player just finished his playing career, I can't see why David King wouldn't be a genuine contender. Certainly better credentialed than guys like Wayne Campbell.
Brian Royal was an experienced AFL assistant coach and was credited with turning around the skills of the Western Bulldogs. Sure he may have been Wallace's mate, but you want to surround yourself with people you trust and have a good working relationship with.
Jade Rawlings I've never been convinced of, but the ability of a player never determines their coaching ability. Monkhorst was a better solution than other ruck coaches we've had in the past who never even played in the ruck.
Steve Alessio was ruck coach before Monkhurst. ::) He got the flick for Monkhurst who is a close friend of Wallet. Alessio nows runs AFL Sportsready.
Wayne Campbell will be an AFL cocah one day, David King wont.
Wayne is extremely good strategic wise.
As for Brian Royal, nice bloke and thats where its ends, if he didnt have Terry he wouldnt have a job, he would go back to being a builder.
Infamy, dont write if you dont know anything about them :banghead
So what. At least he hasnt emploed his albino brother in law to hold the white board.
You cant knock King's credentials to coach.
And you just lost all your credibility on Campbell. He doesnt have the most important requirement to coach. A spine.
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Your sad, you dont realise the club has got ""bozos"" running it at the moment, now what were David Kings qualifications :banghead
Jade Rawlings :banghead Brian Royal, oh yeah, he Terrys friend, Paul Armstrong, yep another friend, Monkhurst, yep another friend, Lets dont forget Wayne Johnson, Yep another friend. :banghead
David King was a premiership defender with the very powerful Roos side, I think that is credentials enough and I haven't heard any bad things said about his coaching ability. If you want an ex-player just finished his playing career, I can't see why David King wouldn't be a genuine contender. Certainly better credentialed than guys like Wayne Campbell.
Brian Royal was an experienced AFL assistant coach and was credited with turning around the skills of the Western Bulldogs. Sure he may have been Wallace's mate, but you want to surround yourself with people you trust and have a good working relationship with.
Jade Rawlings I've never been convinced of, but the ability of a player never determines their coaching ability. Monkhorst was a better solution than other ruck coaches we've had in the past who never even played in the ruck.
look infamy you have a one track mind.
you think everybody thats played or been part of a premiership has what it takes to be successful .
and people who havent won a premiership are pooh.
choco has not won a premiership as a player or as an assistant and he was part of a very very powerful footscray team that couldnt win a premiership under wallace.
king is a good assistant at the moment ,but l would like to see him coach a vfl team to see what hes like .
dont judge people because they havent won a premiership ,because you would be overlooking alot of very talented people.
Overlooking who? Danny Frawley? LMAO.
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Your sad, you dont realise the club has got ""bozos"" running it at the moment, now what were David Kings qualifications :banghead
Jade Rawlings :banghead Brian Royal, oh yeah, he Terrys friend, Paul Armstrong, yep another friend, Monkhurst, yep another friend, Lets dont forget Wayne Johnson, Yep another friend. :banghead
David King was a premiership defender with the very powerful Roos side, I think that is credentials enough and I haven't heard any bad things said about his coaching ability. If you want an ex-player just finished his playing career, I can't see why David King wouldn't be a genuine contender. Certainly better credentialed than guys like Wayne Campbell.
Brian Royal was an experienced AFL assistant coach and was credited with turning around the skills of the Western Bulldogs. Sure he may have been Wallace's mate, but you want to surround yourself with people you trust and have a good working relationship with.
Jade Rawlings I've never been convinced of, but the ability of a player never determines their coaching ability. Monkhorst was a better solution than other ruck coaches we've had in the past who never even played in the ruck.
Steve Alessio was ruck coach before Monkhurst. ::) He got the flick for Monkhurst who is a close friend of Wallet. Alessio nows runs AFL Sportsready.
Wayne Campbell will be an AFL cocah one day, David King wont.
Wayne is extremely good strategic wise.
As for Brian Royal, nice bloke and thats where its ends, if he didnt have Terry he wouldnt have a job, he would go back to being a builder.
Infamy, dont write if you dont know anything about them :banghead
So what. At least he hasnt emploed his albino brother in law to hold the white board.
You cant knock King's credentials to coach.
And you just lost all your credibility on Campbell. He doesnt have the most important requirement to coach. A spine.
Wayne Campbell, terrific person and great football knowledge.
Cant beleive anyone could knock Wayne
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Your sad, you dont realise the club has got ""bozos"" running it at the moment, now what were David Kings qualifications :banghead
Jade Rawlings :banghead Brian Royal, oh yeah, he Terrys friend, Paul Armstrong, yep another friend, Monkhurst, yep another friend, Lets dont forget Wayne Johnson, Yep another friend. :banghead
David King was a premiership defender with the very powerful Roos side, I think that is credentials enough and I haven't heard any bad things said about his coaching ability. If you want an ex-player just finished his playing career, I can't see why David King wouldn't be a genuine contender. Certainly better credentialed than guys like Wayne Campbell.
Brian Royal was an experienced AFL assistant coach and was credited with turning around the skills of the Western Bulldogs. Sure he may have been Wallace's mate, but you want to surround yourself with people you trust and have a good working relationship with.
Jade Rawlings I've never been convinced of, but the ability of a player never determines their coaching ability. Monkhorst was a better solution than other ruck coaches we've had in the past who never even played in the ruck.
Steve Alessio was ruck coach before Monkhurst. ::) He got the flick for Monkhurst who is a close friend of Wallet. Alessio nows runs AFL Sportsready.
Wayne Campbell will be an AFL cocah one day, David King wont.
Wayne is extremely good strategic wise.
As for Brian Royal, nice bloke and thats where its ends, if he didnt have Terry he wouldnt have a job, he would go back to being a builder.
Infamy, dont write if you dont know anything about them :banghead
So what. At least he hasnt emploed his albino brother in law to hold the white board.
You cant knock King's credentials to coach.
And you just lost all your credibility on Campbell. He doesnt have the most important requirement to coach. A spine.
Wayne Campbell, terrific person and great football knowledge.
Cant beleive anyone could knock Wayne
How many times did we finish 9th with Campbell in the team? He never lost any sleep over it.
He always wanted a career in the media, and that's where his football knowledge will take him. Wontbe a senior coach because he never understood the importance of putting the team above himself (and his soft kick stats).
As for being a terrific bloke, go ask Knighter
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March said he was confident the team of five around Wallace - assistants Brian Royal, David King, Jade Rawlings and Craig McRae, and football manager Paul Armstrong - would remain although he said football department decisions were not his to make. Those will fall to Miller's successor, along with Wallace.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24092349-5012432,00.html
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Your sad, you dont realise the club has got ""bozos"" running it at the moment, now what were David Kings qualifications :banghead
Jade Rawlings :banghead Brian Royal, oh yeah, he Terrys friend, Paul Armstrong, yep another friend, Monkhurst, yep another friend, Lets dont forget Wayne Johnson, Yep another friend. :banghead
David King was a premiership defender with the very powerful Roos side, I think that is credentials enough and I haven't heard any bad things said about his coaching ability. If you want an ex-player just finished his playing career, I can't see why David King wouldn't be a genuine contender. Certainly better credentialed than guys like Wayne Campbell.
Brian Royal was an experienced AFL assistant coach and was credited with turning around the skills of the Western Bulldogs. Sure he may have been Wallace's mate, but you want to surround yourself with people you trust and have a good working relationship with.
Jade Rawlings I've never been convinced of, but the ability of a player never determines their coaching ability. Monkhorst was a better solution than other ruck coaches we've had in the past who never even played in the ruck.
Steve Alessio was ruck coach before Monkhurst. ::) He got the flick for Monkhurst who is a close friend of Wallet. Alessio nows runs AFL Sportsready.
Wayne Campbell will be an AFL cocah one day, David King wont.
Wayne is extremely good strategic wise.
As for Brian Royal, nice bloke and thats where its ends, if he didnt have Terry he wouldnt have a job, he would go back to being a builder.
Infamy, dont write if you dont know anything about them :banghead
So what. At least he hasnt emploed his albino brother in law to hold the white board.
You cant knock King's credentials to coach.
And you just lost all your credibility on Campbell. He doesnt have the most important requirement to coach. A spine.
Wayne Campbell, terrific person and great football knowledge.
Cant beleive anyone could knock Wayne
How many times did we finish 9th with Campbell in the team? He never lost any sleep over it.
He always wanted a career in the media, and that's where his football knowledge will take him. Wontbe a senior coach because he never understood the importance of putting the team above himself (and his soft kick stats).
As for being a terrific bloke, go ask Knighter
Since when has a good coach had to be a "terrific bloke"? :-\
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While March gave assurances on Monday the club would add to its coaching staff, not cut it, rumours persist several members of the football department will be moved on at the end of the season.
The club is being helped by The Slade Group in its search for a football head to replace Miller, but it is believed it has a candidate from within sport - but outside football - firmly in its sights.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24099878-19742,00.html
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Your sad, you dont realise the club has got ""bozos"" running it at the moment, now what were David Kings qualifications :banghead
Jade Rawlings :banghead Brian Royal, oh yeah, he Terrys friend, Paul Armstrong, yep another friend, Monkhurst, yep another friend, Lets dont forget Wayne Johnson, Yep another friend. :banghead
David King was a premiership defender with the very powerful Roos side, I think that is credentials enough and I haven't heard any bad things said about his coaching ability. If you want an ex-player just finished his playing career, I can't see why David King wouldn't be a genuine contender. Certainly better credentialed than guys like Wayne Campbell.
Brian Royal was an experienced AFL assistant coach and was credited with turning around the skills of the Western Bulldogs. Sure he may have been Wallace's mate, but you want to surround yourself with people you trust and have a good working relationship with.
Jade Rawlings I've never been convinced of, but the ability of a player never determines their coaching ability. Monkhorst was a better solution than other ruck coaches we've had in the past who never even played in the ruck.
Steve Alessio was ruck coach before Monkhurst. ::) He got the flick for Monkhurst who is a close friend of Wallet. Alessio nows runs AFL Sportsready.
Wayne Campbell will be an AFL cocah one day, David King wont.
Wayne is extremely good strategic wise.
As for Brian Royal, nice bloke and thats where its ends, if he didnt have Terry he wouldnt have a job, he would go back to being a builder.
Infamy, dont write if you dont know anything about them :banghead
So what. At least he hasnt emploed his albino brother in law to hold the white board.
You cant knock King's credentials to coach.
And you just lost all your credibility on Campbell. He doesnt have the most important requirement to coach. A spine.
Wayne Campbell, terrific person and great football knowledge.
Cant beleive anyone could knock Wayne
How many times did we finish 9th with Campbell in the team? He never lost any sleep over it.
He always wanted a career in the media, and that's where his football knowledge will take him. Wontbe a senior coach because he never understood the importance of putting the team above himself (and his soft kick stats).
As for being a terrific bloke, go ask Knighter
Since when has a good coach had to be a "terrific bloke"? :-\
Its called "'people skills" ;)
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Its called "'people skills" ;)
Wayne Campbell struck me as a very arrogant no people skilled person.
Maybe a great bloke when he is 1 of your pals, doesn't mean he is a great bloke.
To call your supporters cretins when you are captain of a football club aint a real good KPI either in my book.
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Its called "'people skills" ;)
Wayne Campbell struck me as a very arrogant no people skilled person.
Maybe a great bloke when he is 1 of your pals, doesn't mean he is a great bloke.
To call your supporters cretins when you are captain of a football club aint a real good KPI either in my book.
Spot on :thumbsup
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Its called "'people skills" ;)
Wayne Campbell struck me as a very arrogant no people skilled person.
Maybe a great bloke when he is 1 of your pals, doesn't mean he is a great bloke.
To call your supporters cretins when you are captain of a football club aint a real good KPI either in my book.
Funny thing perception ;)
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Its called "'people skills" ;)
Wayne Campbell struck me as a very arrogant no people skilled person.
Maybe a great bloke when he is 1 of your pals, doesn't mean he is a great bloke.
To call your supporters cretins when you are captain of a football club aint a real good KPI either in my book.
find this amusing :lol its obvious you never spoke to him apart from maybe a hello can you sign this for me,
dont blame him if he did with Richmond supporters spitting at players & coaches.
Club & Supporters are stamped with Eat your own, go figure
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Presumption followed by a generalisation ... need I continue :banghead
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Since when has a good coach had to be a "terrific bloke"? :-\
Its called "'people skills" ;)
Danny Frawley was a "great bloke"
Was more interested in being all the players mates rather than demanding respect
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Its called "'people skills" ;)
Wayne Campbell struck me as a very arrogant no people skilled person.
Maybe a great bloke when he is 1 of your pals, doesn't mean he is a great bloke.
To call your supporters cretins when you are captain of a football club aint a real good KPI either in my book.
find this amusing :lol its obvious you never spoke to him apart from maybe a hello can you sign this for me,
dont blame him if he did with Richmond supporters spitting at players & coaches.
Club & Supporters are stamped with Eat your own, go figure
Reminds of the supporter in the members, while everyone was cheering a Cambo goal where Cambo played on after a mark and chipped kicked off one step, who just sat there with his arms crossed and turned to his mate next to him and said "that's why I hate him" lol.
Many supporters turned on Cambo after 1999 when he threatened to walk out to North and then Spud gave him the captaincy off Knighter, but his form in early 2003 before he got injured was so good many of them had jumped back on the Cambo bandwagon. Wallace was willing to allow him to continue on for one more year to reach his 300 but Cambo had already promised his girl they would go away and travel OS and in any case it was time for him to retire.
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Since when has a good coach had to be a "terrific bloke"? :-\
Its called "'people skills" ;)
Danny Frawley was a "great bloke"
Was more interested in being all the players mates rather than demanding respect
LOL 2001 finals. Oh how we forget ::)
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Since when has a good coach had to be a "terrific bloke"? :-\
Its called "'people skills" ;)
Danny Frawley was a "great bloke"
Was more interested in being all the players mates rather than demanding respect
LOL 2001 finals. Oh how we forget ::)
And the longer he coached the crapier we got. ::)
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Since when has a good coach had to be a "terrific bloke"? :-\
Its called "'people skills" ;)
Danny Frawley was a "great bloke"
Was more interested in being all the players mates rather than demanding respect
he did have the respect .
his problem was him and the people around him werent good at recruiting and tactics .
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He may have had their respect for the first two years, he certainly couldn't keep it though
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He may have had their respect for the first two years, he certainly couldn't keep it though
it also had alot to do with the poo players we had as well.
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dont blame him if he did with Richmond supporters spitting at players & coaches.
Don't remind me. I watched the game on Saturday night standing next to the spitter. Not wanting to spoil the mood of the game or the party I was at, it was very hard to stand there listening to him commenting and cheering every good thing we did. >:(