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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 28, 2008, 03:57:07 AM
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We seem to cop our fair share of opposition milestone games.
This week - Matthew Scarlett plays his 200th.
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/M/Matthew_Scarlett.html
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If that's not enough, Ablett, Ling and Milburn could all be back.
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Ling is the one who will hurt us the most - can't stand that ugly #%^@&!
Of course a fully fit Ablett can be dangerous too...... :help
Stripes
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Millburn very underated also - Hawks were lucky friday, that game was not an indicator, far from it ....
Huge game, I just want to see a contest .....
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Ablett is still only a maybe and Geelong may take the cautious approach and give him another week off. Milburn and Ling are definitely back and probably Wojcinski. No Chapman who cut us up big time last time kicking 4 goals.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/cats-wary-over-ablett-return/2008/07/28/1217097149888.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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dont worry me who they got in or out, prefer them to be full strength so if by any chance we cause a upset moral will be bursting & l'm sure Thompson would pay credit, eff l'm getting ahead of myself here ;D
l feel a upset brewing, l got my money on the Tigers this week cause if they do, the payout will be a large but more important l like to see us have a win over a top quality top 8 side, then l will say we come along way forward. :gotigers
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If there was one player I could cut from the Geelong team to give us a better shot at winning it would be Chapman. He absolutely kills us and it gives me a smidgin of real opportunity to knock this team off if we're willing to tackle them head on for 4 quarters and dont stuff around with the pill. :pray
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If there was one player I could cut from the Geelong team to give us a better shot at winning it would be Chapman. He absolutely kills us and it gives me a smidgin of real opportunity to knock this team off if we're willing to tackle them head on for 4 quarters and dont eff around with the pill. :pray
Wojcinski is the dangerous lad, needs a kick in the balls, his the quickest they got & very damaging ;D
yes TA glad Chapman is out & Ablett wont play surely, we had a few injuries ourselves last time, players with niggles so it should be a good game. The confidence is up & Moore is playing well, we must have someone tag Stokes cause his a little prick. Bring in kingy to knock him out :thumbsup
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ablett wont play
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ablett wont play
Is another one of your "tips from a mate" like the Deledio call.
AKA "I stuffed up once at a 50/50 so now I'm going to have another crack to try and get some respect back"?
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Who is going to take Stokes ?
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I hope I'm wrong but I think we won't get within 7-10 goals if Geelong turns up to play :-\. They are a class above everyone else and they've won their last 10 straight at the Dome. If we keep it to 5 goals or less like last time at least then we can take something out of the game. Like TA I'm glad Chappy isn't playing as he kills us everytime. We've got to play to our strengths - match them in the contested footy and run like hell taking them on.
Will Plough try something out of the hat a la when he was at the Dogs against Essendon at the Dome in 2000?!
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Who is going to take Stokes ?
I guess Tambo as he's started in defence the last couple of weeks and took Aaron Davey when we played Melbourne. Or maybe Polo if he comes back in.
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Wallace marvels at Cats' freakish form
July 29, 2008 - 7:34PM
Richmond coach Terry Wallace thinks Geelong are treating most of their AFL rivals with contempt, but only because they are just too good.
Wallace said Saturday night's clash against the Cats at Telstra Dome was an important test for his improving side.
The Cats have emphasised their premiership favouritism over the last fortnight, hammering the Western Bulldogs and then withstanding a spirited Hawthorn challenge.
"They've treated all bar Hawthorn with a fair whack of contempt and ... that's footy contempt, not the other contempt," Wallace said.
"They've handled good sides very, very comfortably and they've set a bar for themselves that's a fair way ahead of the rest of the group.
"That's a wonderful opportunity and challenge for our guys, we know we're in the hunt for the eight and every game is critically important."
The Tigers are half a game out of the top eight in 10th spot and Wallace said his team needs "at the very least" three more wins to make the finals.
Regardless of how they fare against the Cats, Wallace said the match would be a great experience.
"I've sat here week-in, week-out and said we are also in bigger-picture mode as well, trying to get a side that can formulate a finals-type scenario for year-in, year-out," he said.
"To be playing against the best, to have your young boys being able to step up and play against the best, I think it's great timing - coming off a good run of footy."
Wallace added he was unsure whether Cats star Gary Ablett would resume from an ankle injury against his side.
"I'm not really that big into the spy game, what we do most weeks is we plan for the worst-case scenario," he said.
"Obviously the worst-case scenario is him playing, because he's such a fantastic player.
"We'll get phone calls and everything else that happens later in the week."
http://news.theage.com.au/sport/wallace-marvels-at-cats-freakish-form-20080729-3mrs.html
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Quick question - Is the game being broadcast on free-to-air?
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the question is 'how much will we lose by?'
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5 goals would be reasonable effort.
Still go with hope of a win .....
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Quick question - Is the game being broadcast on free-to-air?
Yes.
Foxtel are showing the Brisbane v Kangaroos game.
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TV broadcast on Ch 10 is delayed by 30mins in Melbourne.
We're slightly the outsider lol.
TAB Sportsbet Odds
Head to Head
Geelong $ 1.15
Richmond $ 5.00
Line
Geelong -31.5 Pts $ 1.90
Richmond +31.5 Pts $ 1.90
Margin
Geelong Under 39.5 Pts $ 2.25
Geelong Over 39.5 Pts $ 2.20
Richmond Under 39.5 Pts $ 5.50
Richmond Over 39.5 Pts $23.00
Draw $51.00
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Quick question - Is the game being broadcast on free-to-air?
Geelong vs Richmond at Telstra Dome 7:10pm EST
Channel 10: Live SA,NT 6:30pm, Live TAS 7PM, Delay WA 6:30pm, Delay VIC 7:30pm, Delay NSW,ACT,Gold Coast 10:30pm
Fox Sports 1: Replay 12:30am(Sun) EST
Fox Sports Plus: Live NSW,ACT,QLD 7pm
:thumbsup
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Royal on the Cats......... from The Age
"Geelong are a very good side and they're in terrific form. They're missing a couple of their key players and that's great, but they have got very, very good back-up players and it's going to be a tough ask for us," Royal said.
If there was something to learn from last week's clash between Hawthorn and Geelong it was the amount of pressure the Hawks put the Cats under.
"It was an interesting game given the tactics that Hawthorn play and I thought Hawthorn put them under a lot of pressure and if we can emulate some of that pressure …," he said.
"The difficult part with Geelong is getting the ball back off them because they are very efficient in the way they use the footy, they like to share it around, so our pressure's got to be enormous if we are going to get the footy back.
"If we're any chance to beat them … we've got to play four quarters and that's probably an area we haven't done over the past month. Although we're winning games, there's still been a lapse at some stage in the game."
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/rising-star-cotchin-one-of-the-greats/2008/08/01/1217097534914.html
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Less than an hour to go :gotigers
No late changes for the Cats. No mention of the Tiges yet.
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Cotch, Sarge, Patto and King on the bench.
16 degrees and a bit dew under foot even under the roof.
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Tambling to Newy to McMahon on his worng foot good pass to Joel. Point.
We're in front. Blow the siren ;D
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Morton intercepts and goals :gotigers
Tiges 7
Cats 0
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Lids on a HBF on Steve Johnson
Foley has Ling
Tuck almost stuffs it up but Edwards quick kick out to Richo to Jack. Goal :gotigers
Tiges 13
Cats 0
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Tambling 4 contested possies already.
Our forwards are finding space from Geelong turnovers.
Joel marks but misses
14 - 1
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Tackling and pressure been really good. Holding up Geelong well.
Tackles: 8 - 8
Contested footy: 15 - 11
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We've done braindead in the last 3 minutes. Geelong have kicked points though.
14 - 5
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Geelong getting on top and we've can';t get it past centre. Ball-up 30m out and Geelong goal.
14 - 12.
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Inside 50s: 7 - 12
Frees: 3 - 8 holding the ball doesn't exist ::)
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Goal to Lonergan on the siren gives Geelong the lead.
Quarter time
Richmond 2.2-14
Geelong 2.6-18
Goals: Morton, Riewoldt
Too many turnovers in the last 10 minutes of the quarter :banghead
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Possies:
Newy 7
Lids, Tambo 6
Edwards, Richo, Tuck 5
Clearances: 6 - 10
Hitouts: 2 - 13 :help
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Danger time. Free to Stokes and goal.
14 - 24
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Getting smashed in the clearances. Another turnover out of defence and Stokes gets another.
14 - 30
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Kicking efficiency is 53%
Richo off :(
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Doctor checking his inside knee and he's gone down the race. May have done a PCL :'(
Getting smashed now.
14 - 36
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Free to King (finally). 4th inside 50 in about 25 mins :help.
He misses from 25 out :scream
15 - 38
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White gets a goal after good play.
21 - 38
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Great play by Edwards saves the day. Took the game on. Gets it Tuck to Joel. Goal :gotigers
27 - 38
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Patto off with some ankle injury.
Richo back on :thumbsup
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Great play by Edwards saves the day. Took the game on. Gets it Tuck to Joel. Goal :gotigers
27 - 38
Keep it coming mt, no live coverage at all up here(Corowa), how bad is the big fella? Hopefully a Deledio like comeback. Thanks for the updates
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Another turnover ends up with Mooney.
From the clearnace Schulz kicks it OOTF :banghead
27 - 44
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Endeavour is good but making turnover after turnover by foot especially out of defence.
Edwards our best.
Tuck gets it to Lids to Edwards 30 out slight angle. Miss (does a reverse Buddy) :P
28 - 44
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Geelong run it up the ground and Bartel goals making us pay for the miss. Bartel is acting as Geelong's quarterback. Needs to be shut down.
Lids has a long fly but misses also
29 - 50
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Lids well to Schulz. 45m out. Misses also :scream
30 - 50
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Richo to McGuane to Morton in the pocket but it goes through his hands. Geelong runs it up the other end. After the siren Bartel goals :banghead
Half time
Richmond 2.2 4.6-30
Geelong 2.6 8.8-56
Goals: Morton, Riewoldt, Joel, White
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Richo to McGuane to Morton in the pocket but it goes through his hands. Geelong runs it up the other end. After the siren Bartel goals :banghead
Half time
Richmond 2.2 4.6-30
Geelong 2.6 8.8-56
Goals: Morton, Riewoldt, Joel, White
Are we a hope ?
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If we could cut out our mistakes then at least we'd give ourselves a chance.
I know Geelong is the best because of their pressure but bloody elementary mistakes :banghead :banghead :banghead
We started evening up the inside 50s midway through that quarter but we're lacking marking targets up forward. Morton is getting killed, Jack is quiet and Schulz has done much either.
Trying hard and playing our game but just getting outclassed and forced into mistakes.
Getting killed in the hitouts 19 - 7 which is effecting our ability to win the clearances 15 - 18. Simmo is having a poor game in the ruck. Need more of a contest from him. Patto quiet.
Bartel is killing us. Plough needs to man him up perhaps with Sugar.
Possies:
Edwards, Tuck 16
Newy 13
Lids, Jordie, Tambo 11
Sugar, Jackson 10
Foley only has 9. Ling has shut him down yet has 11.
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we had the first shot in the 3rd but Newy misses :scream. Newy doing well on Steve Johnson.
Geelong again run it up the other end after we score a point but thankfully misses.
31 - 57
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Thanks mate, delayed telecast up here, i'm not touching it :thumbsup. Prefer the live updates here! Good to see Titch Edwards having a good one. I rate him big time :bow
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Frees: 7 - 17 ::)
Bronx cheer from the Tiger faithful after we finally get on.
White marks adn Enright gives away 50. Goal :gotigers. Set up by Lids.
37 - 57
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Cotch on Selwood at the moment.
Another turnover (kick over a teammates head) in the centre :scream sets up a Mackie goal.
37 - 63
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Lids again pass to Simmo. 48m out slight ankle.
Clangers: 17 - 7 :banghead
Simmo doesnt make the difference but Richo take a contested mark on the point post. Miss.
38 - 63
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We get a turnover off Geelong. Lids to Cotch snaps but misses.
Geelong again run it up the other end ::) for a Mackie goal.
39 - 69
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Cats just too good with their skills. Beating us in the clearances out of the centre. Another goal.
39 - 75
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Tigers doing their overuse in the backline thing again due to the pressure.
Milburn slung Edwards to the ground and he's hit his head. Edwards groggy and now on the bench. Umps pays a free to Milburn for the throw. Goal to Geelong.
39 - 82
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Edwards doing the concussion test at the moment.
Richo beats 3 Geelong defenders to mark 50m out. Goal :clapping
45 - 82
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Training run down the ground for Geelong.
45 - 88
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Training run down the ground for Geelong.
45 - 88
Are we playing good footy and not finishing and being beaten or just well and truly getting beaten?
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Cats to good. All over us.
When we do get our hands on the ball we try to play more direct but everytime we try to go back inside the corridor it's high risk and we turn it over.
Another turnover. Cotch has made a few blues tonight but he's not the only one.
Cats get another two points from turnovers.
45 - 97
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How is the backline holding up? By that i guess i mean Thirsty, Lukey and Moorey?
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3/4 time
Richmond 2.2 4.6 6.9-45
Geelong 2.6 8.8 15.13-103
Goals: White 2, Richo, Morton, Riewoldt, Bowden
They pressure you into turnovers and then murder you.
This could get real ugly if it isn't already if we let it really blow out. Once again our 3rd quarter was our worst quarter.
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How is the backline holding up? By that i guess i mean Thirsty, Lukey and Moorey?
Reasonable I guess given the easy the ball has come down. No one Geelong forward has hurt us. More their midfield. The problem has been the backline along with everyone else has turned over the ball.
Mooney 2.2
Johnson 0.2
Gamble 1.0
Lonergan 2.0
Ottens 0.0
Mackie 2.0
We've had 42 ineffective kicks, 15 ineffective hballs, 19 clanger kicks, 4 clanger handballs.
Bowden has a shot but off the side of the boot OOTF.
Bowden another chance goals.
51 - 103
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Bowden kick inside forward 50 is smothered and the Cats run it the ground for a Ling goal.
51 - 109
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They just showed on the tv Milburn slinging Edwards late and head first into the ground with his arms pinned ::).
Richo marks. He's playing forward because he is injured they are saying. Goal.
57 - 109
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Connolly says Tambling has certainly found his niche in defence. Daniher quips we're stil trying to find a position for Schulz as he's run down.
Richo snap misses.
Jack intercepts but misses also.
59 - 109
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They just showed on the tv Milburn slinging Edwards late and head first into the ground with his arms pinned ::).
Richo marks. He's playing forward because he is injured they are saying. Goal.
57 - 109
Surely he wouldnt be out there if he is injured? The game is shot and we have no incentive to keep him out there?
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Collision of heads. Newy wobbly from Scarlett shirtfront.
Richo gets his 3rd.
64 - 109
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They just showed on the tv Milburn slinging Edwards late and head first into the ground with his arms pinned ::).
Richo marks. He's playing forward because he is injured they are saying. Goal.
57 - 109
Surely he wouldnt be out there if he is injured? The game is shot and we have no incentive to keep him out there?
Just repeating what they were saying. Richo's our only winning forward.
Schulz marks. Goal.
71 - 110
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Free in the goalsquare to Lonergan.
71 - 116
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Marks inside 50: 13 - 24
It shows it's not our night when the ball bounces over White's head who would've been running on goal and in lands into a Geelong player's arms.
Luke McGuane collides with Steve Johnson. Free to Johnson who goals. Luke came off second best.
Simmo has a corky too and limping. We've got a few sore players.
Cats our of the centre and another goal.
71 - 128
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And another one. Blowing out again.
71 - 134
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Final Score
Richmond 2.2 4.6 6.9 10.11-71
Geelong 2.6 8.8 15.13 20.14-134
Goals: Richo 3, White 2, Bowden 2, Morton, Riewoldt, Schulz
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They just showed on the tv Milburn slinging Edwards late and head first into the ground with his arms pinned ::).
Richo marks. He's playing forward because he is injured they are saying. Goal.
57 - 109
Surely he wouldnt be out there if he is injured? The game is shot and we have no incentive to keep him out there?
Just repeating what they were saying. Richo's our only winning forward.
Schulz marks. Goal.
71 - 110
Sorry if it sounded that i was teeing off at you, i was more having a crack at the comentaters for not being smart enough to realise that you don't keep an injured 33 y.o ou there
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Final Score
Richmond 2.2 4.6 6.9 10.11-71
Geelong 2.6 8.8 15.13 20.14-134
Goals: Richo 3, White 2, Bowden 2, Morton, Riewoldt, Schulz
Thanks Mt, Great job :clapping Lions lost lost i guess that may help us a little, then again roos won so that does not :-\
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Nah no probs. The way Richo just took that leaping mark on the tv in the last quarter he looks fine.
Disappointing result but not a surprise either. The Cats are just so far ahead of everyone else and have so much depth it's not funny. No Chapman or Ablett and it doesn't affect them. We lose Browny and our whole forward line is out of whack with Cleve out also. Opposition finding it easy to shut down Jack and Morton without another tall down there. Mind you our disposal was abysmal tonight.
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One thing that did come out of the game was that Lids should get the nod for the next captain. I think so anyway.
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Nah no probs. The way Richo just took that leaping mark on the tv in the last quarter he looks fine.
Disappointing result but not a surprise either. The Cats are just so far ahead of everyone else and have so much depth it's not funny. No Chapman or Ablett and it doesn't affect them. We lose Browny and our whole forward line is out of whack with Cleve out also. Opposition finding it easy to shut down Jack and Morton without another tall down there. Mind you our disposal was abysmal tonight.
I just hope it dosn't spark another sack Wallace session :lol
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The game showed that we are competitive to a degree but we are still 60 points away from winning a Grand Final. The cats bigger bodies and individual runners like Mackie & Selwood really tore us apart. Still I did see some positives for us but we have to be more direct and reduce our turnovers if we are to be any real threat come future september's.
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Lions lost lost i guess that may help us a little, then again roos won so that does not :-\
At least results have gone as expected. We'll still be only half a game out and we've got this game we expected to lose out of the way. Although there'll be some sick and sore Tigers after tonight. Hopefully we don't drop our heads and realise most other sides are closer to our level than Geelong's.
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One thing that did come out of the game was that Lids should get the nod for the next captain. I think so anyway.
Agree bushy. Lids got plenty of it and coped with Geelong's pressure and his disposal in the main was crisp and clean unlike his teammates.
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We had 65 clangers to 36 and they had 50 more possessions :P. That sums up why we lost. We matched them in most other stats including contested possies and we had 9 more tackles. Just simply outclassed like the 14 other clubs in the comp.
Richo had ice on his right knee in the rooms after the game but hopefully it's just a knock. They said we thankfully copped no injuries.
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Newy on 3aw after the game
* Last 3 quarters - disposal let us down. Geelong's pressure wore us down in the end and we shot ourselves in the foot.
* Newy played on Steve Johnson last time with some limited success. Had to be on his game again today. Daniher had Newy as our best player on the night.
* Geelong's strength is you hold one down and another pops up. Makes them unpredictable to chop out.
* Geelong's backline is the best and our disposal didn't help our forwards line Jack and Morton. But they've been good previous weeks.
* Thanked Blingers to helping him in defence chopping out. Coming good now.
* Jacko did well containing Bartel in the second half.
* Daniher thought our tackling was the best he's seen us do. One positive. Newy said it was a focus as Geelong are such a skillful side. We let ourselves down with our disposal.
* Daniher told Newy your one of the leaders so you need to get the boys going again next week.
* Newy said Scarlett's hit was a good one. He didn't see it coming.
* Your sore after every game and Geelong plays such a physical game. We've got a decent break to get right.
* No injuries from tonight. Only Browny with the virus.
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1/ Pathetic effort by Richmond supporters to attend tonights game. If you going to follow the tigers, go and buy and Adult 18 ticket and go to the games. 42,000 tonight, terrible turnout considering there seemed to be 35,000 cats supporters there. :banghead
2/ Terry Wallace. What on earth were you thinking playing Jake King out of a forward pocket ::) Harley took him and was way too good and tall for him.
3/ The following players WILL NOT win Richmond games in the finals in the future.
Schulz. Jackson, King, and Tambling. And lets dont forget Patto, lol Comical tonight, About time we gave Angus a game.
Richie can try as hard as he likes but he hasnt the skills to deliver the ball, Continually missed targets all night when under pressure.
4/ McMahon, Oh dear. Stokes had a hand in there first 3 goals, you guessed, Well done Jordy ::)
You have to play ACCOUNTABLE football when you havent got possesion, Tonight he was found out and you could see why the Western Bulldogs wanted him out.
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1/ Pathetic effort by Richmond supporters to attend tonights game. If you going to follow the tigers, go and buy and Adult 18 ticket and go to the games. 42,000 tonight, terrible turnout considering there seemed to be 35,000 cats supporters there. :banghead
2/ Terry Wallace. What on earth were you thinking playing Jake King out of a forward pocket ::) Harley took him and was way too good and tall for him.
3/ The following players WILL NOT win Richmond games in the finals in the future.
Schulz. Jackson, King, and Tambling. And lets dont forget Patto, lol Comical tonight, About time we gave Angus a game.
Richie can try as hard as he likes but he hasnt the skills to deliver the ball, Continually missed targets all night when under pressure.
4/ McMahon, Oh dear. Stokes had a hand in there first 3 goals, you guessed, Well done Jordy ::)
You have to play ACCOUNTABLE football when you havent got possesion, Tonight he was found out and you could see why the Western Bulldogs wanted him out.
point 1/ i agree, so many tiger fans say they are supporters but only support by watching tv and sitting by a keyboard. at least i know i attend every game in victoria and at least 2 interstate
point 2/ king is a joke, and cant believe he played for browny when we could have played connors or polo or anyone. king is not a gem, king is just crap
point3/ritchie is progressing ok, and patto wasnt as bad as simmonds. simmonds was a disgrace tonight, stuffed nearly every disposal, rucked like an amateur and fumbled like a nervous wreck. king schulz and should go, jackson i reckon can develop
point 4/jordan is our attacking rebound defender , i feel he has been pretty good in that role this year
tonight also proved that foley is a lazy player. he was towelled up and when geelong had the ball , foley was always 30 metres away from his man. the guy is weak in the mind , this is proven by the fact that he cannot shake a tag, we all know he is very quick, quicker than all geelongs mids, but he never gut runs like a judd to break a tag, just sooks and hopes the game will end soon, tuck may not have foleys speed, but he has a much better and harder work ethic. newman, see foley, weak in the mind. i cannot believe these 2 players are next in line for captain. Deledio should be handed the captaincy next yr, johnson should announce his retirement effective immediately tomorrow. he is a joke also as a leader. newman makes some very stupid errors for a senior player and we should trade him and foley while they have currency. that is what smart teams do, recognise players on their list that are overrated and cash in on them.
deledio should be announced captain for next year and tuck should be his vice captain. tambling and moore dep v c.
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Just watching the replay on Foxtel.
Voss having a decent swipe at McMahon, for not chasing Stokes, very unaccountable and lazy said Voss
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Just watching the replay on Foxtel.
Voss having a decent swipe at McMahon, for not chasing Stokes, very unaccountable and lazy said Voss
just saw that, i wonder if terry will treat jordan like he did bowden and drop him for his lack of defensive efforts. no wonder joel is not happy atm. i like jordan as a rebounding attacker, but i guess u r right jackstar, the primary role for a backman is to defend and be accountable. if terry does not drop jordan , it just shows he is a hypocrite and has his favourites. maybe a month in coburb will toughen and wisen jordan up!
he embarrasses joel who is a tiger through and through, but wont embarrass sanchez
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You're living in a different century.
Attacking football in modern footy starts from HB. McMahon is there to set up play.
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Jordy & Ritchie are going well and bagging them is a joke and obviously an emotional assessment. Jordy's past month has been exceptional and his job is to provide run out of defence, thats why we play a loose back there to help out with his opponent. The game showed me that we should chase Kerr and we need a big bodied midfielder (Couglan) up and firing to help out Foley. Kerr for Raines and our 1st pick sounds fair to me.
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Jordy & Ritchie are going well and bagging them is a joke and obviously an emotional assessment. Jordy's past month has been exceptional and his job is to provide run out of defence, thats why we play a loose back there to help out with his opponent. The game showed me that we should chase Kerr and we need a big bodied midfielder (Couglan) up and firing to help out Foley. Kerr for Raines and our 1st pick sounds fair to me.
Do you actually go to the games.
Tambling in 3 instances stopped chasing behind play, McMahon likewise. :banghead :banghead
McMahon on Stokes was comical
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You're living in a different century.
Attacking football in modern footy starts from HB. McMahon is there to set up play.
The post of the week! You actually didnt go to the game.
Stokes had a hand in 3 goals in the 2nd quarter. McMahon was diagraceful! Was dragged on 2 occassions in the 2nd quarter.
Telll me something 1980, when we havent got possesion, what should McMahon do ? Stand in a zone in D50 and let Stokes get the ball without ANY PRESSURE!
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I dont see how people can get on Tambling too much as at least he was one playing trying to MAKE the play happen while the rest of our players were mostly pretty passive.
However poor old Jordy last night had me tearing my hair out. His worst performance of the year.
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Foley did have Ling on him. The world's ugliest man unfortunately likes to tear us to shreds every time he plays us. Don't blame Foley for trying to get away from him.
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Foley did have Ling on him. The world's ugliest man unfortunately likes to tear us to shreds every time he plays us. Don't blame Foley for trying to get away from him.
why couldnt foley use his pace to burn off ling? foley is lazy, he is a down hill skier and wont gut run when we are behind
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This week - Matthew Scarlett plays his 200th.
Every chance of getting Shane Crawford's 300th in a fortnight if he doesn't get up for next week. :-\
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I'm not the biggest fan of Tambling, but I still thought that he did a good job. So this is me eating my words on him. He's really starting to show what he is capable of, and this is a good thing and exciting if he stays with us.
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Foley did have Ling on him. The world's ugliest man unfortunately likes to tear us to shreds every time he plays us. Don't blame Foley for trying to get away from him.
why couldnt foley use his pace to burn off ling? foley is lazy, he is a down hill skier and wont gut run when we are behind
You're a fair dinkum idiot. Wasnt it Foley who burnt out of the centre square last week more than once in the last quarter in the Brisbane comeback. :shh
How is Foley meant to "burn off Ling" when Ling was all over him at every stoppage and Geelong as a team made sure they allowed him no space forward of centre, there was stuff all else he could do. Geelong are a champion team and they made sure as a team Foley had no space to break free.
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I'm not the biggest fan of Tambling, but I still thought that he did a good job. So this is me eating my words on him. He's really starting to show what he is capable of, and this is a good thing and exciting if he stays with us.
was terrible last night
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well well preasure football, l have said it all before & l seen where we are truely at last night.
Geelong not at full strength raped us & turned us back to ugly football.
The major factor at punt road is lack of talk on the field from the leadership group & football awareness is pathetic & McMahon is not a footballers ass he got no defence side to his game & was raped.
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I'm not the biggest fan of Tambling, but I still thought that he did a good job. So this is me eating my words on him. He's really starting to show what he is capable of, and this is a good thing and exciting if he stays with us.
was terrible last night
Tambling is a frozo when the preasure is on ;D
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You're living in a different century.
Attacking football in modern footy starts from HB. McMahon is there to set up play.
The post of the week! You actually didnt go to the game.
Stokes had a hand in 3 goals in the 2nd quarter. McMahon was diagraceful! Was dragged on 2 occassions in the 2nd quarter.
Telll me something 1980, when we havent got possesion, what should McMahon do ? Stand in a zone in D50 and let Stokes get the ball without ANY PRESSURE!
You prefer to watch Bowden slow it down and kick the ball sideways at HB?
McMahon needs to work on his defensive game, but thats a far cry from all this talk about him being a dud. He runs hard to get the ball and when he uses it well, we are inside 50 more often.
I went to the game, and unlike you, I was cheering for the Tigers :P
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You're living in a different century.
Attacking football in modern footy starts from HB. McMahon is there to set up play.
The post of the week! You actually didnt go to the game.
Stokes had a hand in 3 goals in the 2nd quarter. McMahon was diagraceful! Was dragged on 2 occassions in the 2nd quarter.
Telll me something 1980, when we havent got possesion, what should McMahon do ? Stand in a zone in D50 and let Stokes get the ball without ANY PRESSURE!
You prefer to watch Bowden slow it down and kick the ball sideways at HB?
McMahon needs to work on his defensive game, but thats a far cry from all this talk about him being a dud. He runs hard to get the ball and when he uses it well, we are inside 50 more often.
I went to the game, and unlike you, I was cheering for the Tigers :P
Actually was cheering for the tigers. What I seen was ""lightweights ""' been thrown around. There will be some very sore bodies at Punt Road this week.
McMahon is too light
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Comparing Bowden to McMahon is joke of the century :lol get real 1980 there is no comparison.
Bowden beats him in every asset of the game.
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someone should have thrown a tiger jumper on Duncan & had him play for us ;D he was doing more than some of our players ;D
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someone should have thrown a tiger jumper on Duncan & had him play for us ;D he was doing more than some of our players ;D
As funny as it may seem, but nearly true
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You're living in a different century.
Attacking football in modern footy starts from HB. McMahon is there to set up play.
The post of the week! You actually didnt go to the game.
Stokes had a hand in 3 goals in the 2nd quarter. McMahon was diagraceful! Was dragged on 2 occassions in the 2nd quarter.
Telll me something 1980, when we havent got possesion, what should McMahon do ? Stand in a zone in D50 and let Stokes get the ball without ANY PRESSURE!
You prefer to watch Bowden slow it down and kick the ball sideways at HB?
McMahon needs to work on his defensive game, but thats a far cry from all this talk about him being a dud. He runs hard to get the ball and when he uses it well, we are inside 50 more often.
I went to the game, and unlike you, I was cheering for the Tigers :P
You obviously dont watch the opposition.
STOKES! McMahon opponent. Actually stayed up and watched the replay on foxtel Michael Voss bagged McMahon big time
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You're living in a different century.
Attacking football in modern footy starts from HB. McMahon is there to set up play.
The post of the week! You actually didnt go to the game.
Stokes had a hand in 3 goals in the 2nd quarter. McMahon was diagraceful! Was dragged on 2 occassions in the 2nd quarter.
Telll me something 1980, when we havent got possesion, what should McMahon do ? Stand in a zone in D50 and let Stokes get the ball without ANY PRESSURE!
You prefer to watch Bowden slow it down and kick the ball sideways at HB?
McMahon needs to work on his defensive game, but thats a far cry from all this talk about him being a dud. He runs hard to get the ball and when he uses it well, we are inside 50 more often.
I went to the game, and unlike you, I was cheering for the Tigers :P
You obviously dont watch the opposition.
STOKES! McMahon opponent. Actually stayed up and watched the replay on foxtel Michael Voss bagged McMahon big time
I'll wait until he coaches his first game before I start taking advice from Voss. He got the names of most of the players wrong on Sat nite.
McMahon will get goals kicked on him. But we'll also kick higher scores when he's got the footy in his hands. He's no gun recruit, but he's also hardly the worst footballer on our list.
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McMahon will get goals kicked on him. But we'll also kick higher scores when he's got the footy in his hands. He's no gun recruit, but he's also hardly the worst footballer on our list.
True his not the worst on the list but if Wallace stood by what he preaches about having a defence side to your game, then l would expect McMahon would be dropped & learn the aspects to playing defence when your playing that position cause he aint got the experience to play loose being a turnover king
oh you wont kick higher scores when your turing the ball over like that, look at the result ;D we gave them half that score
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McMahon will get goals kicked on him. But we'll also kick higher scores when he's got the footy in his hands. He's no gun recruit, but he's also hardly the worst footballer on our list.
True his not the worst on the list but if Wallace stood by what he preaches about having a defence side to your game, then l would expect McMahon would be dropped & learn the aspects to playing defence when your playing that position cause he aint got the experience to play loose being a turnover king
oh you wont kick higher scores when your turing the ball over like that, look at the result ;D we gave them half that score
Exactly, if I remember a text message I sent my Dad at half time. . .
"What's the stuffing point of having Jordan McMahon in the team when he cant do what he's in the team to do, set up forward plays."
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look geelong are a awesome team and have beat all comers this year ,so why would richmond be any different
what really worries me is our skill level of alot of players.
l cant work out why our skills have been so bad for so long ,maybe it is time to replace our assistants and try and get a few new ones .
if people remember when wallace signed on as coach he said his weakness was skills training so he got choco in to handle that area ,well its not working we should of been a few goals closer against the cats but our skills where poor ,and why do we continue to miss goals when they are needed ,is it the boys cant handle pressure or is there confidence down or have we recruited athletes rather than footballers.
patto looks slow and doesnt contribute much ,mcmahon is too unaccountable ,tuck tries really hard but his kicking is too up and under ,theres more who should work hard on there field kicking.
l was impressed with edwards before he got body slammed ,he looks good for the future .
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look geelong are a awesome team and have beat all comers this year ,so why would richmond be any different
what really worries me is our skill level of alot of players.
l cant work out why our skills have been so bad for so long ,maybe it is time to replace our assistants and try and get a few new ones .
if people remember when wallace signed on as coach he said his weakness was skills training so he got choco in to handle that area ,well its not working we should of been a few goals closer against the cats but our skills where poor ,and why do we continue to miss goals when they are needed ,is it the boys cant handle pressure or is there confidence down or have we recruited athletes rather than footballers.
patto looks slow and doesnt contribute much ,mcmahon is too unaccountable ,tuck tries really hard but his kicking is too up and under ,theres more who should work hard on there field kicking.
l was impressed with edwards before he got body slammed ,he looks good for the future .
Tuck has been the hardest worker all year, wouldnot surprise me at all if he takes the JD medal over Richo or at least come runner up cause if he was not in the side we be well & truely slaughtered.
The lads know what is required but simply donot have the bodies to go with such experience as Geelong & we are bringing in the wrong options for matchups like Polo would have been a better choice to wear Stokes. l beleive as much as l like the little man Agro King, he spends to much time roughing up players laying on his back & needs to get back to concentrating on football. McMahon was not the matchup for Stokes & that lays blame on the coach.
Emergency players had me dumbfounded. Meyer :lol Conners :lol King not this game wrong choices overall.
The bottom line is we competed in the first quarter which was great hard football but the Geelong lads work harder over the whole game & Wallace was out coached, after 1/2 time is still a major concern as he cant keep them going & this will eventualy cost Wallace his job as his not getting through to the playing group.
Losing the quality of Nathan Brown before the game is huge on any club & the team must build themselves to not let these types of things distract them as they cannot be used as excuses.
The skill level once again was appalling to say the least & this is a coaching error & needs to be rectified before the rot sets in for another 10 years & our top players search other teams for glory.
The axe is going to fall very soon & dont be surprised cause many high profile supporters are not happy that the culture is not being changed on the ground, Someone is guilty for these bad skills & inderect football.
Everytime we went long & direct it worked, why we go constantly go back to old methods has me trumped & other clubs are laughing at us.
Time to get tough at Tigerland as after watching watching Saturday night l hate to see them players fall into the 8 cause they dont deserve to be there.
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Tuck is a cool player.
Goes about his bizness with little fanfair and works tirelessly.
Doesn't mind not being as"famous" as Joel,for example,yet plays
a brand of consistant football that Bowser must envy (he would if his head wasn't up his own ars)
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look geelong are a awesome team and have beat all comers this year ,so why would richmond be any different
what really worries me is our skill level of alot of players.
l cant work out why our skills have been so bad for so long ,maybe it is time to replace our assistants and try and get a few new ones .
if people remember when wallace signed on as coach he said his weakness was skills training so he got choco in to handle that area ,well its not working we should of been a few goals closer against the cats but our skills where poor ,and why do we continue to miss goals when they are needed ,is it the boys cant handle pressure or is there confidence down or have we recruited athletes rather than footballers.
patto looks slow and doesnt contribute much ,mcmahon is too unaccountable ,tuck tries really hard but his kicking is too up and under ,theres more who should work hard on there field kicking.
l was impressed with edwards before he got body slammed ,he looks good for the future .
Tuck has been the hardest worker all year, wouldnot surprise me at all if he takes the JD medal over Richo or at least come runner up cause if he was not in the side we be well & truely slaughtered.
The lads know what is required but simply donot have the bodies to go with such experience as Geelong & we are bringing in the wrong options for matchups like Polo would have been a better choice to wear Stokes. l beleive as much as l like the little man Agro King, he spends to much time roughing up players laying on his back & needs to get back to concentrating on football. McMahon was not the matchup for Stokes & that lays blame on the coach.
Emergency players had me dumbfounded. Meyer :lol Conners :lol King not this game wrong choices overall.
The bottom line is we competed in the first quarter which was great hard football but the Geelong lads work harder over the whole game & Wallace was out coached, after 1/2 time is still a major concern as he cant keep them going & this will eventualy cost Wallace his job as his not getting through to the playing group.
Losing the quality of Nathan Brown before the game is huge on any club & the team must build themselves to not let these types of things distract them as they cannot be used as excuses.
The skill level once again was appalling to say the least & this is a coaching error & needs to be rectified before the rot sets in for another 10 years & our top players search other teams for glory.
The axe is going to fall very soon & dont be surprised cause many high profile supporters are not happy that the culture is not being changed on the ground, Someone is guilty for these bad skills & inderect football.
Everytime we went long & direct it worked, why we go constantly go back to old methods has me trumped & other clubs are laughing at us.
Time to get tough at Tigerland as after watching watching Saturday night l hate to see them players fall into the 8 cause they dont deserve to be there.
Agree.
worst coaching move of the night was to have Simmons sitting at half forward for periods having his opponent stream down the ground rebounding off him.
Should of been isolated in goal square for high ball in, but Terry doesnt like other opinions ::)
Was obvious to all there that Morton was "' too small "" out of goal square. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Tuck is a cool player.
Goes about his bizness with little fanfair and works tirelessly.
Doesn't mind not being as"famous" as Joel,for example,yet plays
a brand of consistant football that Bowser must envy (he would if his head wasn't up his own ars)
another stupid post brackets, :lol & you wonder why posters attack you
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McMahon will get goals kicked on him. But we'll also kick higher scores when he's got the footy in his hands. He's no gun recruit, but he's also hardly the worst footballer on our list.
True his not the worst on the list but if Wallace stood by what he preaches about having a defence side to your game, then l would expect McMahon would be dropped & learn the aspects to playing defence when your playing that position cause he aint got the experience to play loose being a turnover king
oh you wont kick higher scores when your turing the ball over like that, look at the result ;D we gave them half that score
I'd rather we took the game on and turned it over, than have Bowden and Newman playing kick to kick sideways at HB and slowing the game right down.
We may lose more games than we win this year, but not in the next couple of seasons.
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Agree.
worst coaching move of the night was to have Simmons sitting at half forward for periods having his opponent stream down the ground rebounding off him.
Should of been isolated in goal square for high ball in, but Terry doesnt like other opinions ::)
Was obvious to all there that Morton was "' too small "" out of goal square. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
l never seen so many stupid moves by a senior coach apparently so qualified as Wallet this year.
l just dont know how he thinks, l done alot of coaching myself & if a game is lost you need to look after your players not completely destroy them like he does, reminds me of Geishien days. Leave the players on injured :banghead
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look geelong are a awesome team and have beat all comers this year ,so why would richmond be any different
what really worries me is our skill level of alot of players.
l cant work out why our skills have been so bad for so long ,maybe it is time to replace our assistants and try and get a few new ones .
if people remember when wallace signed on as coach he said his weakness was skills training so he got choco in to handle that area ,well its not working we should of been a few goals closer against the cats but our skills where poor ,and why do we continue to miss goals when they are needed ,is it the boys cant handle pressure or is there confidence down or have we recruited athletes rather than footballers.
patto looks slow and doesnt contribute much ,mcmahon is too unaccountable ,tuck tries really hard but his kicking is too up and under ,theres more who should work hard on there field kicking.
l was impressed with edwards before he got body slammed ,he looks good for the future .
Tuck has been the hardest worker all year, wouldnot surprise me at all if he takes the JD medal over Richo or at least come runner up cause if he was not in the side we be well & truely slaughtered.
The lads know what is required but simply donot have the bodies to go with such experience as Geelong & we are bringing in the wrong options for matchups like Polo would have been a better choice to wear Stokes. l beleive as much as l like the little man Agro King, he spends to much time roughing up players laying on his back & needs to get back to concentrating on football. McMahon was not the matchup for Stokes & that lays blame on the coach.
Emergency players had me dumbfounded. Meyer :lol Conners :lol King not this game wrong choices overall.
The bottom line is we competed in the first quarter which was great hard football but the Geelong lads work harder over the whole game & Wallace was out coached, after 1/2 time is still a major concern as he cant keep them going & this will eventualy cost Wallace his job as his not getting through to the playing group.
Losing the quality of Nathan Brown before the game is huge on any club & the team must build themselves to not let these types of things distract them as they cannot be used as excuses.
The skill level once again was appalling to say the least & this is a coaching error & needs to be rectified before the rot sets in for another 10 years & our top players search other teams for glory.
The axe is going to fall very soon & dont be surprised cause many high profile supporters are not happy that the culture is not being changed on the ground, Someone is guilty for these bad skills & inderect football.
Everytime we went long & direct it worked, why we go constantly go back to old methods has me trumped & other clubs are laughing at us.
Time to get tough at Tigerland as after watching watching Saturday night l hate to see them players fall into the 8 cause they dont deserve to be there.
Let's get real here. We have still won 5 games out of 7 after that loss to a team that has won (at last count I remember) 35 of the past 37. It's not a catastrophe to lose that game. What will be is if we cant bounce back against a beatable team in Adelaide this week to keep our finals chances alive. Then it will spell the end.
Anyway, if every team that played and lost by a decent amount and looked ordinary against the cats don't deserve to make the eight, there would only be about 4 teams in the top 8. :P :rollin
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McMahon will get goals kicked on him. But we'll also kick higher scores when he's got the footy in his hands. He's no gun recruit, but he's also hardly the worst footballer on our list.
True his not the worst on the list but if Wallace stood by what he preaches about having a defence side to your game, then l would expect McMahon would be dropped & learn the aspects to playing defence when your playing that position cause he aint got the experience to play loose being a turnover king
oh you wont kick higher scores when your turing the ball over like that, look at the result ;D we gave them half that score
I'd rather we took the game on and turned it over, than have Bowden and Newman playing kick to kick sideways at HB and slowing the game right down.
We may lose more games than we win this year, but not in the next couple of seasons.
look l hate sideways., backwards football more than anyone, Something l have always coached players under me to focus on moving the ball long & direct then lock it in & exshaust the opponant into mistakes, use the forwards all the time thats what they do best, beleive in your teammates ability to take strong marks & kick goals you work hard to setup, use the corridor & stay out of the deep pockets as you wont win games by trying to be a Peter Daicos.
only problem with all that above is Richmond dont know how to lock a team in & every team just glides past us coming out of thier backhalf its a joke watching it every week, then we struggle & rack up useless possessions trying to get out of our back 50, & every player is guilty of not working hard enough
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Let's get real here. We have still won 5 games out of 7 after that loss to a team that has won (at last count I remember) 35 of the past 37. It's not a catastrophe to lose that game. What will be is if we cant bounce back against a beatable team in Adelaide this week to keep our finals chances alive. Then it will spell the end.
Anyway, if every team that played and lost by a decent amount and looked ordinary against the cats don't deserve to make the eight, there would only be about 4 teams in the top 8. :P :rollin
my main concern is not the loss TA. that was always on the cards but we did have a chance to give them a go & we are capable of doing that as it showed in the first 20 minutes of the game. Its what l seen that worries me from how our coach thinks & matches up. Our skills & turnovers, but most of all our lack of decision making & lack of talk. How many players got rundown against Geelong, how many players froze up under preasure l mean fair dinkum its like Tivendale was coaching them his Mr Freeze tactic ;D we lack quick reflex skills for the most cruciul moments
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McMahon will get goals kicked on him. But we'll also kick higher scores when he's got the footy in his hands. He's no gun recruit, but he's also hardly the worst footballer on our list.
True his not the worst on the list but if Wallace stood by what he preaches about having a defence side to your game, then l would expect McMahon would be dropped & learn the aspects to playing defence when your playing that position cause he aint got the experience to play loose being a turnover king
oh you wont kick higher scores when your turing the ball over like that, look at the result ;D we gave them half that score
I'd rather we took the game on and turned it over, than have Bowden and Newman playing kick to kick sideways at HB and slowing the game right down.
We may lose more games than we win this year, but not in the next couple of seasons.
look l hate sideways., backwards football more than anyone, Something l have always coached players under me to focus on moving the ball long & direct then lock it in & exshaust the opponant into mistakes, use the forwards all the time thats what they do best, beleive in your teammates ability to take strong marks & kick goals you work hard to setup, use the corridor & stay out of the deep pockets as you wont win games by trying to be a Peter Daicos.
only problem with all that above is Richmond dont know how to lock a team in & every team just glides past us coming out of thier backhalf its a joke watching it every week, then we struggle & rack up useless possessions trying to get out of our back 50, & every player is guilty of not working hard enough
Agreed :thumbsup
but we're working on it.
And when some of the boys up the ground get a bit stronger and work a bit harder, McMahon will turn it over less.
As for his defensive side, if there's no midfield pressure up the ground and the ball gets delivered with time into our fwd 50, McMahon is always going to get beaten.
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Let's get real here. We have still won 5 games out of 7 after that loss to a team that has won (at last count I remember) 35 of the past 37. It's not a catastrophe to lose that game. What will be is if we cant bounce back against a beatable team in Adelaide this week to keep our finals chances alive. Then it will spell the end.
Anyway, if every team that played and lost by a decent amount and looked ordinary against the cats don't deserve to make the eight, there would only be about 4 teams in the top 8. :P :rollin
my main concern is not the loss TA. that was always on the cards but we did have a chance to give them a go & we are capable of doing that as it showed in the first 20 minutes of the game. Its what l seen that worries me from how our coach thinks & matches up. Our skills & turnovers, but most of all our lack of decision making & lack of talk. How many players got rundown against Geelong, how many players froze up under preasure l mean fair dinkum its like Tivendale was coaching them his Mr Freeze tactic ;D we lack quick reflex skills for the most cruciul moments
Yeah we got killed by Geelong but I think it's just to do with a team that simply drove us into the dirt and are so good they cause extra turnovers. 69 clangers is an embarrassment.
THe thing that got me that you've referred to is players being ran down due to no talk to them about being ran down. Kane Johnson basically watched Schulz get ran down the other night. Sure Schulz should have had the awareness to know the cats were behind him but he saw the space in front of him and a chance for a deep forward 50 entry and simply got ran down. Would've been nice for Kane to pipe up tell Schulz to either give quick hands or stop because he was red hot.
Another factor is we were bullied out of it and there were few player who ended up wanting to take on the big bodies of Geelong. FFS on the wing in the 3rd I think it was Patto was doing the rucking AND the tackling the Cats who got the ball there while our mids were basically stagnant.
Those little things certainly do disappoint and frustrate but I'm going to wait until after the Adelaide game to decide if I really do want to fully unleash on all these footy smarts and effort that kill us far too often.
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THe thing that got me that you've referred to is players being ran down due to no talk to them about being ran down. Kane Johnson basically watched Schulz get ran down the other night. Sure Schulz should have had the awareness to know the cats were behind him but he saw the space in front of him and a chance for a deep forward 50 entry and simply got ran down. Would've been nice for Kane to pipe up tell Schulz to either give quick hands or stop because he was red hot.
Totally agree.