The ABC and D's of Richmond FC

[Dubstep Dookie]

Nice to see on group that is not carried away with Cotchin fever.

 

[Judge Roughneck]

I would rate rance and foley very good rather than list player.

before i rate or categorise players let me say that i categorise differently and jusge harshly.
for me
 A = Elite.
B = very good.
C = good or core list player.
D = development players it does not stand for dud or fail. all players 21 or under potentially fall into this category.
B/S = below standard.

to me we have few A grade players or elite players. mainly for one simple reason to be regarded elite you must consitenly perform at the highest levels not just for a yr or or two.our better players are young and are yet to show the consistency that is needed to be rated so highly. potentially we have 4 maybe 5 elite players.

anyway here goes.

A = elite  players.
B Deledio - is the only one. I have him borderline very good to elite but placed him as an A. hes had 3 or so consistent yrs.

B = Very good players.
T cotchin -  for me still has a fair way to go as far as performances go. i have no doubt he will be an elite player but hes yet to earn that.
J Riewoldt - yep just a B. Still has lots of things to work on for me to become an elite player no doubt he will get there.
D martin - was borderline good to very good but decided to place him in the very good category. he still has a fair bit of work to do. realistically he should be placed in the development category.

C = Good players.
J batchelor - shows more than enough and has few glaring deficiencies. again should be in the development category but did enough to be rated. has lots of  upside  and could be very good.
R Conca - basically see Batchelor. we could not have asked for more from this kid in yr one.while i have some concerns he will at  the least be a good player.
N Foley - always thought him a decent player but i dont think him very good or elite. hes been very good at times but his last 3 yrs considered hes a C. pace and kicking are concerns.
D Grimes - i rate him a fair bit really he should be in development but i think he at least deserves to be placed here . will be at least good likely very good.
B Houli - i place him here based on this season. hes borderline to me because of areas of his game. we had a similar player called mcmahon but houli uses better lucky for him.
K Moore -  has not had many outstanding seasons due mainly to injuries. when fit and going hes a good player very good at times.
R Nahas - had a good season but hes still borderline to me needs to show he can put 3 or 4 good seasons together.
C Newman - yep a good honst player nothing flash. pace is a major worry nowdays and his ability to shut down a player.
A Rance - sheesh you take the good with the bad and end up based on this yr with a pass. some wont agree with this rating but im more than comfy with it.
S Tuck - have always liked him as a player despite the weaknesses that make me cringe at times. if he had some polish hed be at least a B.
T Vickery - for a 21 yr old had a good yr starting to show some good signs. still have concerns about some areas.

D = Development players 21 and under.
D Astbury- shows some promise just needs to improve each yr i think he will be at least a good player if played forward.
A Browne - cops a lot of criticism but for such a raw lug has done enough for now.
P Contin - will be given another season i think. will need to step up a bit next season.
M Dea - i think a keeper will be a good player.
T Derickx - not a kid but has only been at senior level both afl and wafl a short time. will need to take a step next yr if hes to survive.
D Gourdis - probably has one more yr to show he belongs.  despite his disposal i have always liked him as a player.
B Griffiths - well if all the hype is right hes a superstar. potential is the word he may be very good he may also fail time for him to at least takle a step up.
B Helbig - looks a player and has time on his side. based on potential id say we have at least a good solid citizen.
B Jakobi - has good skills but who knows hes in development for a reason.
D Macdonald - did nothing first yr. have some concerns about him. he at least needs to play decent footy at coburg seniors next yr.
J Orielly - an irish experiment that is worth persisting with i think he will make it.
J Post - has a season to show he belongs must take a step up next yr. lots to like about him but some areas are a concern.

B/S = below standard players. some are borderline and may end up decent players others are well clearly below standard. i wont go into reasons why i place them here because when criticising players it usually degenerates into abuse.

D Connors
S Edwards
M Farmer
A Graham
S Grigg
R Hicks
T Hislop
D Jackson
J King
L Mcguane
B Miller
M Morton
B Nason
T Taylor
W Thursfield
J Webberley
N Westhoff
M White

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Love to know what you think now people ... this is a terrific topic!

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Love to know what you think now people ... this is a terrific topic!

I had another look at this topic yesterday and I did a summary of where everyone sits. I decided not to put up a summary now, Ill leave if for some time in the season, but on first analysis there seems to be substantial change, with more players hopping into the B section from the C's and some minor adjustments elsewhere. Need to see more evidence and that will come from how the season unfolds.