before i rate or categorise players let me say that i categorise differently and jusge harshly.
for me
A = Elite.
B = very good.
C = good or core list player.
D = development players it does not stand for dud or fail. all players 21 or under potentially fall into this category.
B/S = below standard.
to me we have few A grade players or elite players. mainly for one simple reason to be regarded elite you must consitenly perform at the highest levels not just for a yr or or two.our better players are young and are yet to show the consistency that is needed to be rated so highly. potentially we have 4 maybe 5 elite players.
anyway here goes.
A = elite players.
B Deledio - is the only one. I have him borderline very good to elite but placed him as an A. hes had 3 or so consistent yrs.
B = Very good players.
T cotchin - for me still has a fair way to go as far as performances go. i have no doubt he will be an elite player but hes yet to earn that.
J Riewoldt - yep just a B. Still has lots of things to work on for me to become an elite player no doubt he will get there.
D martin - was borderline good to very good but decided to place him in the very good category. he still has a fair bit of work to do. realistically he should be placed in the development category.
C = Good players.
J batchelor - shows more than enough and has few glaring deficiencies. again should be in the development category but did enough to be rated. has lots of upside and could be very good.
R Conca - basically see Batchelor. we could not have asked for more from this kid in yr one.while i have some concerns he will at the least be a good player.
N Foley - always thought him a decent player but i dont think him very good or elite. hes been very good at times but his last 3 yrs considered hes a C. pace and kicking are concerns.
D Grimes - i rate him a fair bit really he should be in development but i think he at least deserves to be placed here . will be at least good likely very good.
B Houli - i place him here based on this season. hes borderline to me because of areas of his game. we had a similar player called mcmahon but houli uses better lucky for him.
K Moore - has not had many outstanding seasons due mainly to injuries. when fit and going hes a good player very good at times.
R Nahas - had a good season but hes still borderline to me needs to show he can put 3 or 4 good seasons together.
C Newman - yep a good honst player nothing flash. pace is a major worry nowdays and his ability to shut down a player.
A Rance - sheesh you take the good with the bad and end up based on this yr with a pass. some wont agree with this rating but im more than comfy with it.
S Tuck - have always liked him as a player despite the weaknesses that make me cringe at times. if he had some polish hed be at least a B.
T Vickery - for a 21 yr old had a good yr starting to show some good signs. still have concerns about some areas.
D = Development players 21 and under.
D Astbury- shows some promise just needs to improve each yr i think he will be at least a good player if played forward.
A Browne - cops a lot of criticism but for such a raw lug has done enough for now.
P Contin - will be given another season i think. will need to step up a bit next season.
M Dea - i think a keeper will be a good player.
T Derickx - not a kid but has only been at senior level both afl and wafl a short time. will need to take a step next yr if hes to survive.
D Gourdis - probably has one more yr to show he belongs. despite his disposal i have always liked him as a player.
B Griffiths - well if all the hype is right hes a superstar. potential is the word he may be very good he may also fail time for him to at least takle a step up.
B Helbig - looks a player and has time on his side. based on potential id say we have at least a good solid citizen.
B Jakobi - has good skills but who knows hes in development for a reason.
D Macdonald - did nothing first yr. have some concerns about him. he at least needs to play decent footy at coburg seniors next yr.
J Orielly - an irish experiment that is worth persisting with i think he will make it.
J Post - has a season to show he belongs must take a step up next yr. lots to like about him but some areas are a concern.
B/S = below standard players. some are borderline and may end up decent players others are well clearly below standard. i wont go into reasons why i place them here because when criticising players it usually degenerates into abuse.
D Connors
S Edwards
M Farmer
A Graham
S Grigg
R Hicks
T Hislop
D Jackson
J King
L Mcguane
B Miller
M Morton
B Nason
T Taylor
W Thursfield
J Webberley
N Westhoff
M White
Please do your research claw if you going to add to a decent thread and at length.
Gourdis is not under 21 nor can he be considered apart of a 'development squad' He'll be 23 when Round 1 comes along next year.
Incorrect re Webberley and Grigg. Grigg correctly assessed by 10 Flags and so was Webberly.
Your belief in the Irish experiment is concerning. 
A knock on Dean McDonald is stupid and unfair. 4th round pick last year, what do you expect of first year 4th rounders, nearly debuted last round...
How can you grade Kel Moore anything? He hasn't played for about 18 months?
10 Flags assessment is far closer to the mark IMO.
sheesh hang me up and flog me.
i apologise on gourdis age your right i should have checked. i wont rely on memory when posting again i hope that pleases you.
anyway him being a tall and still only 22 id still consider him in development.just like i placed the 23 yr old derickx there. would you not agree most players 21 and under are very much in development. it was meant to be a broad statement but hey i will be ultra careful next time.
what else was there oh yes grigg and webberley. shaun grigg sheesh not worth two bob if hes to play outside like he does and kicks so poorly. add the fact hes lazy and he rightly deserves to be placed in the b/s category based purely on his deficiencies. it astounds me that we took this bloke having just implemented a good kick policy. and if they took him because they think hes a big bodied inside player well that would show they dont know what they are doing.
J Webberley. yeah maybe a bit harsh but its his ordinariness and his size that has me place him there. for me the good vfl but poor afl player is the right analogy and while we are nit picking webberley a small will be 24 next yr.
Orielly i reckon he will make it and has far better attributes than webberley. my understanding is he copped plenty of injury this yr. while we are at it he will be 24 next yr but is pretty new to the game. so he goes into development.
kel moore so what are you saying i cant comment on what hes done prior to injuries. which is basically what i did. what was it i said oh yeah, when fit and going he's a good player very good sometimes. sheesh seems to me you have a bee in your bonnett. im sorry you dont like me as a poster but sheesh you should at least stay objective.
Dean macdonald. at 184cm and 87kg hes physically ready. yet he cant even get a game in the seniors at coburg and did nothing a coburg ressies. let me ask how would you rate his yr. and do you not think him in development, exactly where i placed him.to top it off i watched him live this yr and he just looked well i wont say it.
finally i didnt post on here to go into competition with the op. i just gave an opinion. i didnt see too many others actually rating players on this thread. If we all did i certainly would not expect us all to post exactly the same. good for you you like the op better your entitled to your opinion. but i dont see anything to back up your assertions.
just to finish on webberley again. if i was a betting man and im not, my money would be on webberley getting delisted this yr.
oh going by your post you disagree with just 6 out of 45 ratings bloody hell thats too close for comfort.
