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Our Pre-Season Draft history
« on: December 09, 2011, 12:15:27 PM »
Here's the full list of Richmond’s pre-season draft selections since 1989:  :P

1989
No. 5 - Jeremy Crough, from West Coast, 0 games.
No. 19 - Matt Richardson, from West Coast, 0 games.
No. 33 - Stuart Griffiths, from Old Melburnians, 17 games.

1990
No. 1 - David Cloke, from Collingwood, 21 games this draft.
No. 7 - David Williams, from Melbourne, 0 games.
No. 21 - Chris Martin, from Hawthorn, 0 games.
No. 35 - David Sullivan, from Camberwell, 0 games.

1991
No. 4 - Mark Trewella, from Fitzroy, 4 games.
No. 10 - Andrew Underwood, from Essendon, 12 games.
No. 27 - John Mrakov, from Collingwood, 8 games.
No. 41 - David Cloke from Richmond, 22 games this draft.

1992
No. 3 - Mark McQueen, from Richmond, 29 games this draft.
No. 17 - David Honybun, from Richmond, 16 games this draft.
No. 31 - Brad Gwilliam, from West Coast, 4 games.
No. 44 - Simon Dennis, from Richmond, 2 games.
No. 52 - Adam Jones, from Xavier College, 0 games.

1993
No. 7 - Stuart Steele, from Hawthorn, 2 games.
No. 23 - Chris Bond, from Carlton, 100 games.
No. 37 - Simon Verbeek, from Carlton, 0 games.
No. 51 - Simon Eishold, from Melbourne, 5 games.
No. 63 - Tim Livingstone, from Richmond, 6 games this draft.
No. 72 - Adam Jones, from Richmond, 0 games.

1994
No. 3 - Jamie Elliott, from Fitzroy, 9 games.
No. 7 - Haydn Robins, from Melbourne, 4 games.
No. 23 - Adam Slater, from Richmond, 3 games.

1995
No. 9 - Stuart Wigney, from Adelaide, 14 games.
No. 23 - Mark McQueen, from Woodville-West Torrens, 0 games this draft.

1996
No. 3 - Darren Gaspar, from Sydney, 207 games.

1997
No. 6 - Brett Evans, from Springvale, 28 games.

1998
Nil

1999
No. 6 - Clay Sampson, from Adelaide, 27 games.

2000
Nil

2001
Nil

2002
Nil

2003
Nil

2004
No. 4 - Ben Marsh, from Adelaide, 7 games.

2005
No. 1 - Trent Knobel, from St Kilda, 21 games.

2006
No. 5 - Matt White, from Calder Cannons, 82 games.

2007
No. 6 - Kent Kingsley, from Geelong, 3 games.

2008
No. 1 - David Gourdis, from Subiaco, 0 games this draft.

2009
No. 6 - Ben Cousins, from West Coast, 32 games.

2010
No. 2 - Dylan Grimes, from Northern Knights, 8 games.

2011
No. 3 - Bachar Houli, from Essendon, 22 games.

Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/127011/default.aspx

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Re: Our Pre-Season Draft history
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2011, 09:55:22 PM »
sheesh, do we need reminding, heres hoping Bachar was a turning point :cheers
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Re: Our Pre-Season Draft history
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 07:01:33 AM »
sheesh, do we need reminding, heres hoping Bachar was a turning point :cheers

Let's home Grimesy ends up being the turning point  :pray
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Re: Our Pre-Season Draft history
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2011, 12:39:49 PM »
Its a very interesting list if mostly for its list of failures

If you take 50 games as the base of a success then there are only 3/38 players that could be considered a success.  This ignores good older players like David Cloke, Ben Cousins who were too old to play 50 games and younger players Bachar Houli who has yet to play 50 but surely will.  Grimes is really an unknown so far.

So you could say we have had a success rate of 6/37 with one unknown.
Also you could say only one good player has comes from pick 7 or below, Chris Bond.  Which is first round only!!  Funny how it only goes to one round these days too.

The lessons of the successes seem to be

1) You can get a good player if you target them and they are disgruntled with their current club (Gaspar, Houli)
2) You can get a good player if they are old (Cloke twice, Cousins)
3) Its rare to get a good player from the second round of the PSD draft (Chris Bond)
4) Its rare to get a good player young player from a non AFL club (Matt White out of 7) assuming Grimes is an unknown.

Seems to me we have done the right thing by enlisting an opposition list analyst as that's one of the best ways to get a good player in a bare draft. 
We also ought to look at good players who are old if we haven't targeted a young known good player.
With free agency coming up this may be even easier.

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Re: Our Pre-Season Draft history
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2011, 01:48:12 PM »
sheesh, do we need reminding, heres hoping Bachar was a turning point :cheers

Let's home Grimesy ends up being the turning point  :pray

sheesh, sorry I missed that, yeah agreed :thumbsup
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Re: Our Pre-Season Draft history
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2011, 03:20:56 PM »
Tidy, the only thing I would add is that Gaspar was the result of us getting a compensation pick in that draft for Maxfield. So it almost ended up being a straight swap
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