Richmond has no 200 game youngsters - Tony Shaw

[WilliamPowell]

Interestingly Walls in answering a caller who suggested that the 3AW commentators and the media in general treat Tezza a protected species said that 1/ that he believed Terry was copping his fair share of criticism and 2/ and this was the interesting bit he also said that perhaps Terry is also paying for the team doing better then what most people thought he would in his first 2 years and that 6 months ago people probably thought the Tigers were going OK. What this year has proved Walls reckons is that there is a lot of gaps in our list.......

Hmmmm IIRC thats what our coach has being saying for the last 18 months.

As for who will play 200 games of our current kids..

Let me see....

Foley
Raines
Deledio
Tambling
Thursfield
Edwards
Reiwoldt
Newman
Polo


Want me to go on and I reckon there's a good bet Jake King will make it too.

[WilliamPowell]

Thats not point, This has nothing to do with anyone esle but Terry wallace. Dont deflect Moi
. Should of been a youth policy from the day he walked into the place ala Alistair Clarkson

How can you say we don't have a youth policy when we have the 3rd or 2nd youngest list in the comp? Yep it's younger than the Hawks.

As for Graham - that was actually a good pick up for us because it meant a kid like McGuane got time to develop at Coburg because let's be honest here in 2005 he was not ready for AFL footy physically

[Passionfruit]

He should of cleaned the list out from Day 1.
Bringing Paddy Bowden big mistake, dogs were rapt to show him the door.
As for Jay Schultz, owed the club big time and hasnt delivered. Should of been shown the door back when we lost the sponsorship but still we persist

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He should of cleaned the list out from Day 1.
Bringing Paddy Bowden big mistake, dogs were rapt to show him the door.
As for Jay Schultz, owed the club big time and hasnt delivered. Should of been shown the door back when we lost the sponsorship but still we persist

iirc, terry turned over 13 players in his first yr , how many more could he get rid of.
when there are contratcs and afl rules regulating how many changes a yr a team can make.

u cant just wipe out 30 players and start fresh by bringing 30 in in 1 yr.

tool!

[DallasCrane]

my thoughts WP;

Foley looks better than Libba and may play more than his 283 games
Raines Seems one dimensional this season and needs to add other aspects to his game to be a 200 game player
Deledio Yep
Tambling Is now struggling to get a game in the bottom side. Doubtful for 200
Thursfield bit early, looks a great long term prospect though, was outmuscled today and needs to work on that
Edwards I'd put him in the Chris Naish 150 odd game category- at the moment.
Reiwoldt Loooong way to go, no reason why he couldn't though, all the ingredients are there.
Newman 
Polo needs to bulk up a bit to help withstand the dangerous situations he gets himself into otherwise he'll be lucky to get to 100


Want me to go on and I reckon there's a good bet Jake King will make it too.

I'd like to see Chris Hyde take that next step and become another that gets 200.

Problem is though is that there is too many midgets, not enough strong bodied, bigger midfielders, no coggers & the late/non onset of JON is a bummer in that regard, so Walls and or Shaw are probably right, with our list we are going to struggle to get 'stayers' that will last the distance.

[Moi]

He should of cleaned the list out from Day 1.
Bringing Paddy Bowden big mistake, dogs were rapt to show him the door.
As for Jay Schultz, owed the club big time and hasnt delivered. Should of been shown the door back when we lost the sponsorship but still we persist

iirc, terry turned over 13 players in his first yr , how many more could he get rid of.
when there are contratcs and afl rules regulating how many changes a yr a team can make.

u cant just wipe out 30 players and start fresh by bringing 30 in in 1 yr.

tool!

These are the players that are gone since Wallace took over.  Only a tool would say we are not cleaning out our list.  Apart from some great clubmen, there's some great players in this list 

Archibald
Blumfield
Campbell
Chaffey
Dragga
Fiora
Fleming
Fletcher
Gaspar
Gilmour
Hilton
Houlihan
A Kellaway
D Kellaway
Marsh
Morrison
Nicholls
Ottens
Roach
Rodan
Rogers
Stafford
Weller
Zantuck

[1965]

He should of cleaned the list out from Day 1.
Bringing Paddy Bowden big mistake, dogs were rapt to show him the door.
As for Jay Schultz, owed the club big time and hasnt delivered. Should of been shown the door back when we lost the sponsorship but still we persist

iirc, terry turned over 13 players in his first yr , how many more could he get rid of.
when there are contratcs and afl rules regulating how many changes a yr a team can make.

u cant just wipe out 30 players and start fresh by bringing 30 in in 1 yr.

tool!

Well said

[Gracie]

Not many players make it to 200 games in general. How many would most clubs have on their list now ? three or four ?

So to say only two of the current kids would just be on the average.

[Tigermonk]

Walls & Shaw are blowing wind up everyones asses every week
most champions struggle to 200 games & rarely get 250 games
Walls is the biggest rubbish talker in football today & is often a critic by the fellow media himself his such a fool
Caro & Wallsy should knock up could you imagine the love child 

[one-eyed]

The Ox (David Schwarz version) on SEN had his say on the Tigers just now. Basically said he can't see where we are heading while bemoaning our poor footskills. All clubs have youngsters coming through so you just can't pin your hopes on them.

[Passionfruit]

He should of cleaned the list out from Day 1.
Bringing Paddy Bowden big mistake, dogs were rapt to show him the door.
As for Jay Schultz, owed the club big time and hasnt delivered. Should of been shown the door back when we lost the sponsorship but still we persist

iirc, terry turned over 13 players in his first yr , how many more could he get rid of.
when there are contratcs and afl rules regulating how many changes a yr a team can make.

u cant just wipe out 30 players and start fresh by bringing 30 in in 1 yr.

tool!

These are the players that are gone since Wallace took over.  Only a tool would say we are not cleaning out our list.  Apart from some great clubmen, there's some great players in this list 

Archibald
Blumfield
Campbell
Chaffey
Dragga
Fiora
Fleming
Fletcher
Gaspar
Gilmour
Hilton
Houlihan
A Kellaway
D Kellaway
Marsh
Morrison
Nicholls
Ottens
Roach
Rodan
Rogers
Stafford
Weller
Zantuck

I cant wait to get my award Moi for the biggest TOOL

5 on your list retired.
The biggest DUDS on that list were recruited by who ?
Morrison and Weller are the biggest duds of all time were recruited by GREG MILLER
I rest my case.- we need change at punt road  NOW

Can wait to get my award for the tool of the week and the year.
We all know who the tool is !

[bluey_21]

Amazing people bagging Walls and Shaw.
 Both Premierships Captains and Walls coach, they must have some idea you would think..  No thye have no idea, people who write on forums have a much better idea about football, sorry i forgot

Does this include you?

God you are a sanctimonious twit.

Hey 1965, I am not the one bagging Walls or Shaw.

Get your facts right.

I didn't bag Walls or Shaw.

That was someone else.

that would include me 

I wouldn't listen to any so called media experts when they talk about the kids at a club around the bottom of the ladder. They are always crap 

but if we had say 5 or 6 wins which we actually could have at this stage, there would be none of this bs coming from messrs walls and shaw

[wayne]

The Ox (David Schwarz version) on SEN had his say on the Tigers just now. Basically said he can't see where we are heading while bemoaning our poor footskills. All clubs have youngsters coming through so you just can't pin your hopes on them.

It's amazing that just 17 months later the media are calling us an exciting up and coming team. That we have some of the best young defenders, that us and Carlton are the most likely from the bottom 8 to jump into the top 8 in '09 and they all drool uncontrollably over Cotchin.

[mightytiges]

The Ox (David Schwarz version) on SEN had his say on the Tigers just now. Basically said he can't see where we are heading while bemoaning our poor footskills. All clubs have youngsters coming through so you just can't pin your hopes on them.

It's amazing that just 17 months later the media are calling us an exciting up and coming team. That we have some of the best young defenders, that us and Carlton are the most likely from the bottom 8 to jump into the top 8 in '09 and they all drool uncontrollably over Cotchin.

It just goes to show how easy it is to be an 'expert' footy commentator these days. Their predictions show no more insight or  foresight than the average supporter who posts on forums like this. In fact it's less as at least we take interest in Coburg as well as Richmond each and every week to get an overall impression of the state of our list and each individual player. The likes of Shaw or a Walls just judge by the current results, ladder positions and name/profile players they know. Who can't turn up to games and state the bleeding obvious when teams are winning/losing . I give more dues to Emma Quayle and Burgatron as reporters as with the draft they make a investigated effort to get what they predict and publish as close to what eventually happens.

[tdy]

The Ox (David Schwarz version) on SEN had his say on the Tigers just now. Basically said he can't see where we are heading while bemoaning our poor footskills.

Thats rubbish by the OX. Terry has deliberatly been improving our footskills, if we aren't the best its not because Terry hasn't been trying to improve them. We came from a long way back in that dept.

I give more dues to Emma Quayle and Burgatron as reporters as with the draft they make a investigated effort to get what they predict and publish as close to what eventually happens.

Don't forget Jake Niall, I give him a lot of dues personally.

What we do need is excellence and this redevelopment of Punt Road will help that happen in the off field area, injuries, fitness etc.

I think we should make the 8 this year, but I'm not expecting top 4.