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Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« on: September 29, 2009, 01:40:48 AM »
AFL players nervous ahead of national draft
Jon Anderson | Herald Sun September 29, 2009

ONLY the elite few at each club are untouchable. For the rest nervous times await. Some should be more nervous than others.

Mark 2009 down as the season when AFL clubs decided aggressive pre-draft trading was the way to go.

The unavailability of 17-year-olds, with the Gold Coast having access to the best 12 in the country, has recruiters declaring the November 26 national draft to be somewhat thin after the first 12-15 picks.

And that's where the trades come into play. If you can't find what you are looking for via the kids, go with what you know.

And it could involve established players such as Western Bulldog Brian Lake and Geelong's Mark Blake, despite the latter having played in his second straight AFL Grand Final with Geelong on Saturday.

The Western Bulldogs have told Lake and his management that he won't be traded under any circumstances.

With the parties believed to be up to $100,000 apart in salary talks, Lake is said to be willing to take his chances in the pre-season draft.

Which means Melbourne would get first crack at the 27-year-old full-back, who was recruited from Woodville-West Torrens in 2001 with pick 71.

That would mean the Bulldogs get nothing for a player who is a large part of their planning going into the 2010 premiership campaign.

It is hard to see it happening but, remember, Port Adelaide got nothing when Nick Stevens returned to Melbourne in 2004 and joined Carlton.

Blake is a different case, the 200cm ruckman refusing to sign the new contract offered during the season.

Seven weeks ago departure from Skilled Stadium seemed likely as Blake languished in the VFL, but when rookie Shane Mumford tired towards the end of the season the Cats turned to Blake to give them predictable results at stoppages.

Blake, Mumford and Trent West are all out of contract at Geelong, while giant project player Dawson Simpson has re-signed with the club.

Blake is building a house at Ocean Grove, but with 29-year-old Brad Ottens expected to play at least two more seasons, competition for rucking sports will remain intense.

On the subject of the Cats, don't rule out interest from them in Fremantle defender Marcus Drum, whose uncle Damian played with Geelong.

Geelong is keen to replenish its defensive stocks with Tom Harley, Darren Milburn and Matthew Scarlett part of an ageing defence.

Drum is 22 and was taken with pick 10 in the 2005 draft, so he won't come for nothing.

Carlton is another side desperate for defenders, hence its interest in West Coast's Matt Spangher and Andrejs Everitt of the Western Bulldogs.

Could we even see Chris Tarrant bob up in a Blues jumper, the 29-year-old having declared his interest in returning to Victoria. The expected retirement of Stevens will leave room in Carlton's salary cap.

Spangher is a Melbourne boy and wants to return home while Everitt is said to be seeking a change of environment after being overlooked by the Dogs for all three finals.

St Kilda's Matt Maguire is another defender who could create interest at the Blues, although as of yesterday he was said to be favouring Hawthorn or Essendon, both of which have shown keen interest.

The environmental change can also be applied to Fremantle's Brett Peake, who has made his intentions to begin again outside Perth very clear.

There has been some interest from Melbourne in the 26-year-old who boasts explosive running ability.

Now, to arguably the best credentialled player in trade talk: Port Adelaide's Shaun Burgoyne.

Almost 27, it has been a stunning fallout at Alberton Oval given earlier this year he was coach Mark Williams' preferred choice as captain.

Hawthorn has put pick No. 9 on the table for the sublimely skilled Burgoyne, Port responded by asking for pick No. 9 and Jordan Lewis. Lewis, though, does not want to leave Hawthorn and that deal won't be happening.

If other players from the Hawks become involved look for names such as Mitch Thorp and Ben McGlynn.

As for Josh Gibson, who has declared his intent on joining Hawthorn, pick No. 25 from the Hawks is said to be on the table.

Andrew Raines will leave Richmond for Brisbane for the Lions' third-round pick while Shane Tuck is another Tiger looking for a new club, probably somewhere who wants a player capable of winning contested ball.

Essendon and Andrew Lovett are expected to part company, with Sydney having shown some interest in a player who can break up a game with blistering pace.

Collingwood and Essendon could look at a Leon Davis-Lovett swap, although the former is 28 compared with 26 and the Bombers have been steadfast in pursuing their youth policy.

The Magpies have been fielding calls about 20-year-old key position players Nathan Brown and Ben Reid. Travis Cloke's name has also been raised.

In terms of players wanting to return to their home states, West Coast's Ben McKinley is a name that has surfaced again, the 184cm forward originally from Old Ivanhoe.

The biggest deal to be locked away is Brock McLean to Carlton with Melbourne getting pick 11.

Depending who you speak to, that is either a win-win or a plus for Melbourne, given McLean hasn't played his best football in the past two seasons.

The reality is he hasn't completed a pre-season in that period and the Blues know the improvement will come now he is free from injury.

Sydney is expected to take West Coast ruckman Mark Seaby for a second-round pick, while Brisbane has shown interest in Brent Staker.

Hawthorn continues to be a potential player with the names of Josh Kennedy and Jarryd Morton having roused interest from rival clubs.


POTENTIAL TRADES

 

ADELAIDE

Brent Reilly, Robert Shirley, Taylor Walker, Nick Gill

 


BRISBANE LIONS

Bradd Dalziell, Jamie Charman, Scott Harding, Rhan Hooper

 


CARLTON

Brendan Fevola, Andrew Walker, Brad Fisher, Adam Bentick

 


COLLINGWOOD

Leon Davis, Travis Cloke, Chris Dawes, Ben Reid

 


ESSENDON

Andrew Lovett, Jason Laycock, Jay Nash, David Myers

 


FREMANTLE

Chris Tarrant, Marcus Drum, Steven Dodd, Ryan Murphy

 


GEELONG

Mark Blake, Kane Tenace, Trent West, Ryan Gamble

 


HAWTHORN

Beau Dowler, Mitchell Thorp, Mark Williams, Rick Ladson

 


MELBOURNE

Clint Bartram, Brock McLean, Paul Johnson, Brad Miller

 


NORTH MELBOURNE

David Hale, Daniel Harris, Corey Jones, Sam Power

 


PORT ADELAIDE

Brett Ebert, Shaun Burgoyne, Danyle Pearce, Justin Westhoff

 


RICHMOND

Adam Pattison, Jordan McMahon, Jay Schulz, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls


 


ST KILDA

Raphael Clarke, Luke Ball, Matt Maguire, Stephen Milne

 


SYDNEY

Barry Hall, Nick Malceski, Henry Playfair, Ryan Brabazon

 


WEST COAST

Ashley Hansen, Ben McKinley, Mark Seaby, Matt Spangher

 


WESTERN BULLDOGS

Andrejs Everitt, Guy O'Keefe, Cameron Wight, Wayde Skipper

 
Note: The Herald Sun nominates these players as potential trades and is not stating they will be traded.

 

WIN/WIN

1993 Nathan Buckley (right) to Collingwood from Brisbane Lions for pick 12 (Chris Scott)

1997 Wayne Schwass to Sydney Swans, Shannon Grant to North Melbourne

1999 Brett Montgomery to Port Adelaide, Nathan Eagleton to Western Bulldogs

2001 Damien Hardwick to Port Adelaide from Essendon for pick 47 (Andrew Welsh)

Barry Hall to Sydney from St Kilda for pick 13 (Nick Dal Santo)

2006 Chris Tarrant to Fremantle from Collingwood for Paul Medhurst and pick 8 (Ben Reid)


WIN/LOSS

1995 Craig Davenport to Carlton from St Kilda for pick 19 (Barry Hall)

2000 Evan Hewitt to Adelaide from North Melbourne for pick 23 (Drew Petrie)

2002 Nick Davis to Sydney from Collingwood for pick 21 (Bo Nixon)

2003 Jason Gram to St Kilda from Brisbane for pick 23 (Matthew Moody)

2004 Brad Ottens to Geelong from Richmond for picks 12 and 16 (Danny Meyer and Adam Pattison)

Chad Morrison to Collingwood from West Coast for pick 37 (Mark LeCras)

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/national-draft-keeps-afl-players-on-toes/story-e6frf9jf-1225780649354

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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2009, 02:04:58 AM »
David Myers from Essendon would be a VERY good get if he is on the table.

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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2009, 08:46:19 AM »
David Myers from Essendon would be a VERY good get if he is on the table.
Totally agree!
Also Gamble and McKinley would be very good long term players.
Gamble could be anything imo.

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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2009, 09:28:24 AM »
David Myers from Essendon would be a VERY good get if he is on the table.

Yes agree 100%. Of that list only David Myers is worth pursuing and we should do so. Young and highly skilled. Heard that he has had a big growth spurt. If this is true he could become a very good CHB option. Rance and Myers could become a very handy FB and CHB pairing.

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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2009, 03:28:03 PM »
The Saints have also been linked with Jordan McMahon from Richmond, with the Tigers also likely to offer up 2005 number eight pick Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, according to The Australian.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/85452/default.aspx

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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2009, 03:40:17 PM »
David Myers from Essendon would be a VERY good get if he is on the table.
Totally agree!
Also Gamble and McKinley would be very good long term players.
Gamble could be anything imo.

I would be super pleased if we picked up McKinley in the PSD, but that is unlikely... I would think we would end up with Mitch Thorp or McKinley
There could be a plethora of disenfranchised players in the PSD, hopefully one slips to us.
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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2009, 03:55:19 PM »
RICHMOND

Adam Pattison, Jordan McMahon, Jay Schulz, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls


How could any team resist those names! Get ready for the first rounders to roll in next week!
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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2009, 04:28:22 PM »
I'm on the Myers bandwagon too! I'd even entertain giving the Bombers our third rounder that we get for Raines.  :pray

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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2009, 06:15:23 PM »
RICHMOND

Adam Pattison, Jordan McMahon, Jay Schulz, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls


How could any team resist those names! Get ready for the first rounders to roll in next week!
The scarey thing is they were considered first rounders when originally drafted  :o  :P
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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2009, 07:23:31 PM »
The Saints have also been linked with Jordan McMahon from Richmond, with the Tigers also likely to offer up 2005 number eight pick Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, according to The Australian.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/85452/default.aspx


i have heard that St Kilda may need to get bigger. so looking at those two might not be ideal for them.

however, i will hoping that St Kilda are silly enough to take them two.

a St Kilda second round pick for them two would be fantastic!

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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2009, 07:25:36 PM »
RICHMOND

Adam Pattison, Jordan McMahon, Jay Schulz, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls


How could any team resist those names! Get ready for the first rounders to roll in next week!
The scarey thing is they were considered first rounders when originally drafted  :o  :P
Right up to when they put on the RFC jumper. And who said we cannot develop players!  :lol

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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2009, 10:51:14 PM »
RICHMOND

Adam Pattison, Jordan McMahon, Jay Schulz, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls


How could any team resist those names! Get ready for the first rounders to roll in next week!
The scarey thing is they were considered first rounders when originally drafted  :o  :P

And that is what I have been trying to get accross all along with this re-building brainwashing. While I admit that we do need to keep our early picks for youth I also believe we shouldn't put all our eggs into one basket. If we use our late round picks on players like the above mentioned where we could of used them (some of them) to trade for players such as Davey, Lake, Lovett, Spangher etc... then we could actually end up worse off...... IMO
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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2009, 11:36:22 PM »
David Myers from Essendon would be a VERY good get if he is on the table.

Yes agree 100%. Of that list only David Myers is worth pursuing and we should do so. Young and highly skilled. Heard that he has had a big growth spurt. If this is true he could become a very good CHB option. Rance and Myers could become a very handy FB and CHB pairing.

Yes, saw a fair bit of him as a junior and in the league side, a highly skilled Terry Daniher type with marking ability, good pace, neat disposal and true leadership quality.

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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2009, 11:42:35 PM »
So if this Myers fellow is so good and everone wants him, then why doesn't the team he is with wan't him?? Reaks of Thompson & Hislop for mine!!
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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Re: Herald-Sun has Pattison, McMahon, Schulz and JON as our trade bait
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2009, 12:07:16 AM »
So if this Myers fellow is so good and everone wants him, then why doesn't the team he is with wan't him?? Reaks of Thompson & Hislop for mine!!

That's as much insight as wanting to trade for Davey, Spangher & Nickoski.  :o