PSD pick

[Fwoy3]

Can i just say i think u all r awesome! Its great visualising other TRUE - PASSIONATE -  REAL supporters!! There are richmond fans and richmond supporters and you guys are all definently the latter. Its great we are all striving for the one thing and that is success............. just thought id let u know how proud it is to be a richmond man wen u enter forums like this!
Well Done Everybody! 
Yours sincerely
11bowden11

That is us...the mentally unstable....erm, I mean, the Richmond Supporters! 

[mightytiges]

Bizzell looks like staying as expected and putting his acting on hold  . The Hun says we and the Pies were interested in him.

Sports Tonight and the Age say Caracella is leaving the Lions. Doesn't do our chances of offloading Zantuck much good  .

Caracella's decision is likely to place him at the centre of the draft/trade market and produce a flow-on effect that, for instance, could affect Ty Zantuck's chances of leaving Richmond. Essendon and the Roos each have been considering Zantuck, but neither can take both players.

Richmond is believed to be interested in recruiting another ruckman, such as Trent Knobel, in the pre-season draft and, after it, Hawthorn is not interested in recruiting a player of Caracella's age, while the Western Bulldogs are unlikely to have the money to participate in December. Collingwood is next with pick four.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/11/08/1099781322498.html

[mightytiges]

Can i just say i think u all r awesome! Its great visualising other TRUE - PASSIONATE -  REAL supporters!! There are richmond fans and richmond supporters and you guys are all definently the latter. Its great we are all striving for the one thing and that is success............. just thought id let u know how proud it is to be a richmond man wen u enter forums like this!
Well Done Everybody! 
Yours sincerely
11bowden11

That is us...the mentally unstable....erm, I mean, the Richmond Supporters! 

lol fwoy  .

Us Tiger supporters are often labelled as fickle and turning on our own (eg: Chaffey in 2004 - WP's golden turnip (turnup) recipient most weeks  ) but to still have a fairly large base when most clubs would've buckled if they they experienced the last 20 years we've had and to achieve at 8% rise in memberships in a wooden spoon year under Spud that followed two previous crap years says alot about our passion and loyalty. We're still here and we ain't going away! 

btw thanks for the kind words 11B11 

[shano62]

Miler sead on sen last night we draft a ruckman and backman with our 2 PSD Picks.

[mightytiges]

Miler sead on sen last night we draft a ruckman and backman with our 2 PSD Picks.

That would tie in with what a Hawthorn bloke said on SEN this morning when they were talking about the boardroom tussles at the Hawks with KB. It came across as he was almost certain Mark Graham would be a Tiger next year. A Richmond supporter then rang in saying Graham's an old dud  as he turns 32 in March and we should stay clear of him and stick to youth. KB defended him harping back to his coaching days of saying you need older bodies when you have so many kids.

The ruckman sounds like it'll be Knobel.

If we use two PSD picks then that would mean we will be passing on our pick 60 unless Ty can find a new home which is looking more and more less likely.

[mightytiges]

Hadley has re-signed with the Lions and Mooney with the Cats so that's another two not up for grabs.

[WilliamPowell]

I reckon the way the " PSD Slim Pickings" are looking at the moment it will be either Knobel or McKee.

With Knobel it will come down to how much he wants and if we can offload Zantuck. Keep Zantuck and we wont be able to afford Knobel IMO.

McKee would be a cheap option.

Does anyone know if Notting from the Lions has re-signed?

[11bowden11]

I am still of strong belief that Notting hasnt resigned. Although i would find it hard to believe that they wouldnt sign him but would sign Pike and White.,.......

[mightytiges]

Does anyone know if Notting from the Lions has re-signed?

I don't believe so WP but I think the Lions expect him to.

Keating has just re-signed with them today so that's one less ruckman available. It's looking more and more like the weakest PSD ever  .

Some Hawk supporter on BF reckons Graham has signed a 2-year deal with us    .

[mightytiges]

I thought we make a list of the likely nominees in the PSD so far (a couple may still end up first in the National draft):

Blake Caracella (Brisbane) [confirmed - $250K asking price]
Jarrad Schofield (Port Adelaide)
Cain Ackland (Port Adelaide)
Mark McGough (Collingwood)
Steve McKee (Collingwood)
Mark Graham (Hawthorn)
Trent Knobel (St Kilda)
Mark Porter (Kangaroos)

[H Tiger]

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[mightytiges]

LOL HT

Port have delisted Forster-Knight so we've moved back one spot to our original pick 36. Dew has re-signed with them.

[Fishfinger]

Grover could quit Freo
By MICHAEL PLACE
14nov04
Sunday Times (Perth)

FREMANTLE utility Antoni Grover could walk out on the club within a week.



Grover was offered a two-year deal by the Dockers last month but they have slashed his pay. He is considering nominating for the pre-season draft. It is believed Richmond and the Kangaroos have flagged interest in the 24-year-old.

His manager Wayne Loxley will meet with Grover when he returns from the AFL's indigenous camp tomorrow.

"He was offered a reduced contract and he has asked me to see if there was any interest from other clubs," Loxley said yesterday.

"There has been a positive response and I will be contacting a few more clubs tomorrow."

Grover said his preference was to remain at Fremantle, where he has played 75 games over six seasons.

"I'd love to stay there but it depends on what arises," Grover said.

"I'm pretty close to the Dockers boys and being a Perth boy it's a tough decision."

Grover said the contractual impasse had nothing to do with money.

" It's not just about money it's about opportunities and where I sit in life," he said. "I'll make up my mind within the next week."

Dockers football manager Steven Icke said he was hopeful Grover would remain at the club.

"We put an offer on the table and we'd like to see him stay," Icke said.

"We think he will given where we are at."


http://www.sundaytimes.news.com.au/...55E2762,00.html

[mightytiges]

Grover's a HB flanker at 188cm so he doesn't fit in what we need. We need a KP backman. Given that I rather him anyday over someone like a 32 year old Graham who bascially plays the same position. Also has been reliably injury-free except for a broken hand towards the end of 2003 so he'll play most games. Here's his stats off the Freo site:

Antoni Grover
 
Guernsey Number: 14
Height 188cm
Weight: 91kg
Recruited From: Subiaco (WA)
Draft history: 1999 rookie elevation (Fremantle). 
Debut: 1999 
Date of Birth: 11 March 1980

ABOUT (2003)

Has missed only five games in the past two years, four of them late last season after breaking a hand. Has developed into a strong and steady half-back flanker who was one of the team’s best in the elimination final loss to Essendon. Solid in the air and provides regular drive in a backline that has significantly improved.

Games K H M G B

18 133 80 78 2 3

Player Statistics - Antoni Grover (2004 Season)

Round Date vs. K H P M HO T FF FA G B

Round 3 11/04/2004 Adelaide 13 8 21 5 0 0 0 0 1 0
Round 4 18/04/2004 Collingwood 14 2 16 8 0 2 1 1 0 1
Round 5 25/04/2004 Geelong 9 8 17 2 0 1 1 0 0 0
Round 6 01/05/2004 West Coast 11 1 12 5 1 1 0 0 1 0
Round 7 08/05/2004 St Kilda 5 5 10 0 0 6 0 0 0 0
Round 8  16/05/2004 Hawthorn 8 4 12 5 0 3 0 0 0 0
Round 9  22/05/2004 Brisbane 11 4 15 4 0 1 0 0 0 1
Round 10 28/05/2004 Essendon 9 5 14 9 0 3 0 0 0 0
Round 11 06/06/2004 Melbourne 9 11 20 4 0 5 2 1 0 0
Round 12 13/06/2004 Richmond 6 2 8 2 0 2 1 0 0 0
Round 13 19/06/2004 Port Adel 3 3 6 2 0 5 0 0 1 0
Round 14 04/07/2004 W.Bulldogs 8 6 14 2 0 0 2 2 0 0
Round 15 10/07/2004 Kangaroos 8 2 10 2 0 1 4 0 1 0
Round 17 24/07/2004 Sydney 8 7 15 4 0 1 1 0 1 0
Round 18 31/07/2004 Carlton 9 7 16 2 0 2 0 1 0 0
Round 19 06/08/2004 Collingwood 3 2 5 0 0 4 0 0 0 0
Round 20 14/08/2004 Geelong 5 1 6 0 0 1 0 1 0 0
Round 22 28/08/2004 St Kilda 12 5 17 5 0 1 0 0 0 0

[mightytiges]

By Jake Niall
realfooty.theage.com.au
November 16, 2004
 
While Richmond had expressed early interest in Knobel, the Tigers have dropped off the chase and are looking at other pre-season draft options, such as uncontracted Fremantle defender Antoni Grover, or even the best remaining untried talent.

The budget-conscious Tigers have all but ruled Knobel out - in part on financial grounds.

Knobel, who is out of contract, is set to place a modest price on his head before nominating for the pre-season draft.

Other ruckmen seeking new clubs, such as former Magpie Steve McKee, Port Adelaide's Cain Ackland and ex-Roo and Blue Mark Porter, will be available in Saturday's national draft.

Richmond, meanwhile, has turned its attention to other players, holding talks yesterday with Grover's management.

The Tigers intend to draft one recycled player in Saturday's draft, giving strong consideration to drafting a seasoned ruckman such as McKee, who is training at Punt Road, Ackland or Porter.

But, depending on what becomes available in the pre-season and who they select on Saturday, the Tigers will also consider using the first pick in the pre-season draft on the best untried teenager.

Richmond football director Greg Miller said the club would invite a handful of young players who weren't drafted this weekend to train at Punt Road, in the knowledge that the club had first choice in both the pre-season and rookie drafts.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/11/15/1100384496332.html?oneclick=true