NAB Cup 2010

[Stripes]

I have been impressed by many of our young fellows - Astbury looks a potential star, Martin our best player in his first game, Vickery and Gus good in the middle, Tambling good, Farmer showed signs, Post showed a bit and Gourdis was reasonable in defence as was Connors.

Rance was very ordinary, Polak a waste of space and Hislop can't kick. When it all comes down to it though, the reason we are getting so soundly beaten is because Hawthorn is stronger, better drilled and far more experienced. We are babies and it will take many more of these type of games before we learn the game plan and how to play with each other.

We are miles off  

Stripes

[jackstar is back again]

Post aint a backman.
McGaune signed a 3 year contract this year

[Hellenic Tiger]

Its our so called 2nd tier players that have let us down. These types that have been on an AFL list for 3-4 years on average and have shown nothing whilst we hope they have breakout seasons and take us to the next level.

[Tigermonk]

That peice of play where it got to Roughhead for the 9 point was pathetic

[jackstar is back again]

I have been impressed by many of our young fellows - Astbury looks a potential star, Martin our best player in his first game, Vickery and Gus good in the middle, Tambling good, Farmer showed signs, Post showed a bit and Gourdis was reasonable in defence as was Connors.

Rance was very ordinary, Polak a waste of space and Hislop can't kick. When it all comes down to it though, the reason we are getting so soundly beaten is because Hawthorn is stronger, better drilled and far more experienced. We are babies and it will take many more of these type of games before we learn the game plan and how to play with each other.

We are miles off  

Stripes

Sorry, buy Gus hasnt had a possesion, has he   HOPELESS

[DallasCrane]

Finish last and trade someone of the ilk of Foley or Newman for draft picks.
Delistings will include the majority of the following
Hislop Thompson Polak Edwards McMahon Simmonds Rance Tuck King

Cousins may retire also.

There will probably be another 10 or so list changes this year at a minimum.

I think Connors is out of contract also.

We need to be thinking in terms of pruning off that '2nd tier'* of average players over the next 2-3 years also, the ones that are so average that they cannot even propel us into the finals, let alone a premiership tilt. I feel we have to dig a bit deeper Tucker, what can we get from the new franchise?

*Polo Tuck Newman White Jackson Graham Thursfield Rance Riewoldt Nahas

Foley has to go to the GC. We've got too many smalls we can afford it.

This really needs to happen over the next 2 years, compromised draft or not.

[Hellenic Tiger]

astbury and martin are putting every senior player to shame

Too true mang

We need to be thinking in terms of how much of the list can you turn over in 3 years, it was 14 this year, lets say 12 per year for the next 3 years, that leaves 8 players on the list from this year in our 2013 line up.

I'm just gonna spend this season working out who those 8 are.

Martin
Deledio
Cotchin
Vickery
Post
Griffiths
Astbury
Tambling

Make it 9 boys and add Andrew Collins.

[Ramps]

Finish last and trade someone of the ilk of Foley or Newman for draft picks.
Delistings will include the majority of the following
Hislop Thompson Polak Edwards McMahon Simmonds Rance Tuck King

Cousins may retire also.

There will probably be another 10 or so list changes this year at a minimum.

I think Connors is out of contract also.

We need to be thinking in terms of pruning off that '2nd tier'* of average players over the next 2-3 years also, the ones that are so average that they cannot even propel us into the finals, let alone a premiership tilt. I feel we have to dig a bit deeper Tucker, what can we get from the new franchise?

*Polo Tuck Newman White Jackson Graham Thursfield Rance Riewoldt Nahas

Foley has to go to the GC. We've got too many smalls we can afford it.

This really needs to happen over the next 2 years, compromised draft or not.

Spot on!

[Stripes]

I hope he doesn't Ramps but reality is and we knew it this time last year he may be just one hamstring tear away from it.

Connors is another in the gun and McGuane may also be used as trade bait with GC 17 also.

The job Hardwick is facing is huge.

Agree on the job at hand. But we dont have any spine at the moment. We are looking for kids like Astbury and Griffiths to give us a forward line. Thats the mess the old coaching staff left us in. Anyway Hardwick can atleast put in a proper structure

McGuane
Post
Martin
Astbury
Griffiths

And maybe he can try and develop a team around this group. Mind you McGuane will probably be at Gold Coast in 12 months.

I agree with you spine. Post looks like he would make a brilliant CHB...the problem is is that Astbury and Griffiths are years away.  

[Ramps]

We have no else who can play upfront. Riewoldt is overated by the supporters and Polak shouldnt be on the list IMHO. We stood by him but enoughs enough.

[tony_montana]

well one thing hasn't changed

our ability to cough it up bc of a simple unforced error when we are in complete control of a passage of play, I have never seen an afl side do it quite like us.

[Stripes]

I have been impressed by many of our young fellows - Astbury looks a potential star, Martin our best player in his first game, Vickery and Gus good in the middle, Tambling good, Farmer showed signs, Post showed a bit and Gourdis was reasonable in defence as was Connors.

Rance was very ordinary, Polak a waste of space and Hislop can't kick. When it all comes down to it though, the reason we are getting so soundly beaten is because Hawthorn is stronger, better drilled and far more experienced. We are babies and it will take many more of these type of games before we learn the game plan and how to play with each other.

We are miles off  

Stripes

Sorry, buy Gus hasnt had a possesion, has he   HOPELESS

Has been very good in the ruck duels but I take your point.

[Stripes]

well one thing hasn't changed

our ability to cough it up bc of a simple unforced error when we are in complete control of a passage of play, I have never seen an afl side do it quite like us.

It'll take more than 3 months to change near on 30 years of poor skills and culture...

[dizza]

well one thing hasn't changed

our ability to cough it up bc of a simple unforced error when we are in complete control of a passage of play, I have never seen an afl side do it quite like us.

seems that no matter who we have playing for us, or who the coach is, it's the same every year. we lack basic football skills within the squad!

[jackstar is back again]

I have been impressed by many of our young fellows - Astbury looks a potential star, Martin our best player in his first game, Vickery and Gus good in the middle, Tambling good, Farmer showed signs, Post showed a bit and Gourdis was reasonable in defence as was Connors.

Rance was very ordinary, Polak a waste of space and Hislop can't kick. When it all comes down to it though, the reason we are getting so soundly beaten is because Hawthorn is stronger, better drilled and far more experienced. We are babies and it will take many more of these type of games before we learn the game plan and how to play with each other.

We are miles off  

Stripes

Sorry, buy Gus hasnt had a possesion, has he   HOPELESS

Has been very good in the ruck duels but I take your point.

Our problem is this, we need talls who can make an ""IMPRINT"" on the game,not tap the ball down to the opposition.
Turn back the clock 10 years when Bennny Gale used to ruck and take telling marks inside D 50..
How many marks had Gus had ?? NIL
How many last year for the entire season?? single figures you would assume.
Coburg is Gus