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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #360 on: February 26, 2010, 09:14:35 PM »
Punching his fist through a glass panel in a door/window would have something to do with being called immature. He's natural footy talent wasn't under question at Punt Rd. He's looked promising so far tonight on a HFF with that huge leap, clean hands and hard chasing and tackling.

4 goals to Hall in the first quarter. He's loving the pinpoint passes from the bullies midfield too. The doggies showing how to pierce the Hawks' cluster zone with quick switches of play and precise quick skills by hand and foot which was something we couldn't do. Mind you the Hawks' intensity looks a fraction of what they showed against us.
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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #361 on: February 26, 2010, 09:30:58 PM »
Josh Gibson= overated hack

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #362 on: February 26, 2010, 10:19:24 PM »
Hawks tackling and intensity was well down
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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #363 on: February 26, 2010, 10:27:59 PM »
Hawks tackling and intensity was well down

Can't wait until we play the Dogs. :-[

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #364 on: February 26, 2010, 11:09:46 PM »
Yep Jack I don't think North were sad to see Gibson go. Hawks were desperate for any tallish defender and based on tonight he's not the answer. Once you get through and past the Hawthorn zone it's pretty easy to score against them. We didn't have the transition speed, spread and skills to get through the zone; the dogs did.

Hawks tackling and intensity was well down

Can't wait until we play the Dogs. :-[
Round 2 isn't it  :help.

That forward line gangtacking pressure was great to watch tonight. The Hawks' defence had no answer to it. Would be great to see that high level of pressure eventually from the Tigers  :-\. If the doggies can keep Hall on the park without literally snapping they will give it a serious shake this year. With their precise skills, Hall straightens them up and gives them that long goto option when the short small options are closed down which they didn't have before.
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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #365 on: February 26, 2010, 11:11:50 PM »
Josh Gibson= overated hack
Would be better suited to a Calvin Klein ad campaign because he ain't no footballer. Good pickup hawks!  :thumbsup

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #366 on: February 26, 2010, 11:59:18 PM »
Round 2 isn't it  :help.

That soon is it?
Doggies is one slick outfit.
Hate to be so negative but we'll be murdered on current form.

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #367 on: February 27, 2010, 07:14:35 PM »
not many comments on the roos cats game. i would suggest if people think north will be easy beats for us they think again, and yeah it was just a nab cup game.
North will be ahead of us initially as they still have quite a few mature players in their best 22 to win games. They had 10 guys 24 years old or above in their NAB side compared to just our 4  :help. The quality individually within their 10 would exceed our 4 as well. So much for our senior core  :P. Then add the fact we played 8 guys under 21 playing compared to North's 3. I'm not knocking North's win but just showing why they will be ahead of us for the next 2 years.

Let's see where both sides are at in say 3 years time when North will have lost a third of their current best 22 to retirement. I hope they overachieve in the next couple of years and end up with poor draft picks for finishing mid-ladder in an era where the new teams will be hogging the first round of the draft.

North Melbourne

31: Harvey (269)
29: Jones (155)
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28: Harding (129), Rawlings (201)
27: Petrie (176), Pratt (98 ), Firrito (127)
26:
25: Hale (117), McIntosh (79)
24: McMahon (41)
23: Thompson (28 ), Campbell (47)
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22: Lower (34), Swallow (62), Anthony (10), Adams (8 )
21: Urquhart (32), Goldstein (16), Hansen (29), Ross (12), Warren (9), Greenwood (11), Gartlett (5)
20: Tarrant (-)
19: Wright (4), Ziebell (10)


Richmond

28: Tuck (110)
27: Newman (154)
26: Moore (65)
25: Polak# (108 )
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23: Polo (52), Thomson (30), Morton (50), Tambling (95)
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22: Deledio (106), Graham (18 ), White (54), Nahas (19)
21: Hislop (19), Collins (10), Connors (10), Edwards (47), Riewoldt (46), Gourdis# (-)
20: Post (7), Rance (15), Farmer (3), Nason (-)
19: Cotchin (25), Vickery (9), Astbury (-)
18: Martin (-)


nb. Age (current number of AFL games) - Round 1, 2010
thats a little cheeky mt. wheres norths recruits from this yr many think they klilled the 09 draft. sheesh cunnington bastinac who i liked at  pick 19. black  macmillan kennedy norris. plus rookie picks that included the  athletically gifted daw.

nm have a total of 8 players on their list who are  26 or older.  so in 3 yrs they will have 8  who may be past their best.that is  29 and over  over and well into the back end of  their careers  or gone.  
 the rfc have 7 in exactly the same boat.
rich have  29 players 22 or under  including rookies  guess what  nm have the same number.
 in 3 yrs time it will be down to who has drafted best and not just with early picks. imo north will have just as many players in the 23 thru 28 bracket as we will, if not more as i believe  we have heaps of glass half full types to get rid of still.
Most of North's senior players are still in their best 22. The likes of Polak, Tuck, King, McMahon and Thomson aren't in ours thank god. Losing their senior players will hurt them more.

As for 2009 recruits ours have done alright so far this preseason. At least they're been given games and showing some promise. I agree it will depend on how all these U23 recruits are doing in 3 years time to see who has done best. Beating Geelong in a single preseason game does not maketh a gun list as journos overexcited about North's win last week were doing ;).

For the record our side today was:

31: Cousins (253), Simmonds (190)
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27: Newman (154)
26: King (41), Moore (65)
25: Polak# (108 )
24: Roberts# (-)
23: Jackson (69), Thomson (30), Thursfield (53), McGuane (54), Morton (50), Tambling (95)
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22: Deledio (106), Nahas (19), Webberley (-)
21: Hislop (19), Connors (10), Edwards (47), Riewoldt (46)
20: Farmer (3)
19: Cotchin (25), Vickery (9)
18: Martin (-), Dea (-), Taylor (-)
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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #368 on: February 27, 2010, 11:27:57 PM »
Sheesh Port flogged the Weagles by 78 points  :o.

We didn't miss much from both ex-Tigers  :nope. Sarge kicked a couple early but that's all and poor JON ended up with just 8 possies.
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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #369 on: February 28, 2010, 12:19:38 PM »
Sheesh Port flogged the Weagles by 78 points  :o.

We didn't miss much from both ex-Tigers  :nope. Sarge kicked a couple early but that's all and poor JON ended up with just 8 possies.

JON = very average, actually below average, watched the game and he was caught out and hammered many times, typical from him, played the same when with us, bye JON!! Schulz, well, hot and cold, can't have that in a team, we lost nothing there!!
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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #370 on: February 28, 2010, 12:36:45 PM »
Yep good riddance to the pucks

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #371 on: February 28, 2010, 08:17:22 PM »
Quite funny reading Eagles fan rating JON's game last night. Not sure what game they were watching  ???

http://bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=676430&page=7


North lose to Freo at home lol. As they say a week is a long time in footy  ;).

Barlow has been a good mature recruit for Freo so far. Another lazy 27 touches today.

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #372 on: February 28, 2010, 10:56:29 PM »
Quite funny reading Eagles fan rating JON's game last night. Not sure what game they were watching  ???

http://bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=676430&page=7


North lose to Freo at home lol. As they say a week is a long time in footy  ;).

Barlow has been a good mature recruit for Freo so far. Another lazy 27 touches today.


i still say write fremantle of at your own peril.

if an abundance of height size  structure  with a liberal sprinkling of promising kids means anything along with a massive home ground advantage freo will shock a few this yr.

just looking at structure they stack up okay against most sides.


b/     grover 189/97 - tarrant 193/93 -  
hb/                      - mcpharlin 193/93 - mcphee 190/89
c/     morabito 190/90 - haselby  -   palmer 182/80
hf/                            johnson 194/95 i really like this guy.  
f/                             pavlich 192/102
r/ sandilands 211/123.  
looks pretty good structure to me they are a big side and they have some promising mids  like palmer moribito hill suban ibbotson.                                    


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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #373 on: March 01, 2010, 01:37:40 AM »
i still say write fremantle of at your own peril.

if an abundance of height size  structure  with a liberal sprinkling of promising kids means anything along with a massive home ground advantage freo will shock a few this yr.

just looking at structure they stack up okay against most sides.


b/     grover 189/97 - tarrant 193/93 -  
hb/                      - mcpharlin 193/93 - mcphee 190/89
c/     morabito 190/90 - haselby  -   palmer 182/80
hf/                            johnson 194/95 i really like this guy.  
f/                             pavlich 192/102
r/ sandilands 211/123.  
looks pretty good structure to me they are a big side and they have some promising mids  like palmer moribito hill suban ibbotson.                                    


Not underestimating them but that's a mature spine they've had for a few years yet still gone nowhere. Another side that has topped up (why would they want McPhee if they are rebuilding = Harvey chasing another Essendon reject).

30 Grover (167), Solomon (209)
29 Tarrant (220), Hayden (102), Headcase (161)
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28 Pavlich (213), McPharlin (151), Haselby (188 )
27 McPhee, Sandilands (135), Thorton (88 )
26 Dodd (98 ), Crowley (78 )
25 Johnson (84), Duffield (45)
24 Murphy (47), Schammer (124), Mundy (108 ), Bradley (73)
23 Broughton (15)
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22 Ballantyne (8 ), Ibbotson (42), Barlow# (-), Silvagni# (-)
21 O'Brien (3), Mayne (22), Palmer (25), Hinkley (13), Van Berlo# (4)
20 Clarke (5), De Boer (17)
19 Hill (22), Suban (22), Hall (-), Ruffles (3), Bucovaz (-), Walters (3), Sibosado# (-), Pearce# (8 ), Shepheard# (-)
18 Crichton (-), Robertson (-), Fyfe (-), Morabito (-), Houghton (-), Bollenhagen (-)

The bold are their players 190cm+.

That list structure should be pushing top 8 at least with 18 players 24 years or older but it finished bottom 4. What happens in 2-3 years time when the older core withers/retires?! There's a clear age gap in the middle before you hit all the teenagers they've recruited in the past two drafts. Especially with their talls.

IMO they are where we were in 2005. Yep they may push mid-ladder like we did initially under Wallace but more pain ahead for the Dockers and hard to see Harvey surviving if/when they flop again.
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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #374 on: March 01, 2010, 10:24:22 AM »
Schulz, well, hot and cold, can't have that in a team, we lost nothing there!!

Schulz is actually working out quite well for Port so far. He is not dominating by any means but their forward line has functioned extremely well the past couple of weeks and he has played his part. As one of a few key targets, they have a good thing going atm & they'd be well happy at this early stage I'd suggest.

JOn got sold a couple of hospital passes but showed a couple of nice things as well. Don't think he'll make it however.