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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2004, 06:44:43 PM »
And what did they settle on after asking us for Campbell and Richo (from memory, that was their asking price)?


Glen Nugent and Troy Gray  :banghead

Once again us finishing 9th stuffed us up  :banghead. I think the Swans were down the bottom of the ladder like they had for most of the early 90's and the Saints had to take what they could get  :scream.
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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2004, 07:08:41 PM »
uhhhhh..........maybe it would have made a difference but maybe not too. :thumbsup

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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2004, 12:14:13 AM »
And what did they settle on after asking us for Campbell and Richo (from memory, that was their asking price)?


Glen Nugent and Troy Gray  :banghead

Once again us finishing 9th stuffed us up  :banghead. I think the Swans were down the bottom of the ladder like they had for most of the early 90's and the Saints had to take what they could get  :scream.

Yep, Sydney got Lockett for no more than Troy Gray and Simon Minted-Colon and a pick or two. They shafted Minted-Colon to the Dorks, who in turn gave Pineapple Head to the Saints. What a joke.
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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2004, 12:45:23 AM »
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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2004, 12:02:23 PM »
Sorry but HE WOULD HAVE MADE NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL! The guy is a rat and our club was left like every other club that Northey coached....in the poo! Northey left Sydney and melbourne in a hole and he did the same to us. He squeezed the life out of the present squad and that was it.

He was another example (and with all respect to the girls in here) of a soft-$o$k....just listening to that stupid little scrag by his side. If he wanted to stay, he should have stayed. He was talking to Brisbane from June and used them as a way to get more money so frankly he can stick it.

His style was good but it was never going to carry us. You could see against the top sides it wasnt good enough, we got smacked by Geelong (more than once), Carlton took us to the cleaners in the last quarter and well we died on the ass in the second half of the year. We couldnt compete with them.....

And whats worse? Walls comes in and tries to put some structure in and talks FOOTBALL to the players and they are too dumb to understand what he was saying because it wasnt kick long and crash. He was never going to work because he was too smart for our fools (how is he going to teach Howat and neeld to play smart footy?) and the players were backlashing against the Northey decision.

Ill say one thing...in the second half of 96 we were hands down the best side in the comp. Once we got going, we were unstoppable. But the first half was too poo and we missed out because of it. Once everyone got over everything it was too late only for rubbish politics to come out in the pre-season to screw us in 97.
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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2004, 12:25:25 PM »
Im with you Omster ! :thumbsup

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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2004, 02:41:26 PM »
Sorry but HE WOULD HAVE MADE NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL! The guy is a rat and our club was left like every other club that Northey coached....in the poo! Northey left Sydney and melbourne in a hole and he did the same to us. He squeezed the life out of the present squad and that was it.

He was another example (and with all respect to the girls in here) of a soft-$o$k....just listening to that stupid little scrag by his side. If he wanted to stay, he should have stayed. He was talking to Brisbane from June and used them as a way to get more money so frankly he can stick it.

His style was good but it was never going to carry us. You could see against the top sides it wasnt good enough, we got smacked by Geelong (more than once), Carlton took us to the cleaners in the last quarter and well we died on the ass in the second half of the year. We couldnt compete with them.....

And whats worse? Walls comes in and tries to put some structure in and talks FOOTBALL to the players and they are too dumb to understand what he was saying because it wasnt kick long and crash. He was never going to work because he was too smart for our fools (how is he going to teach Howat and neeld to play smart footy?) and the players were backlashing against the Northey decision.

Ill say one thing...in the second half of 96 we were hands down the best side in the comp. Once we got going, we were unstoppable. But the first half was too poohe and we missed out because of it. Once everyone got over everything it was too late only for rubbish politics to come out in the pre-season to screw us in 97.

Northey didnt jump, he was pushed. Dont know where you got that about talking to Brisbane from June. He spoke to Brisbane after the papers published that Mal Brown, on authority from Leon Daphne, spoke to Kevin Sheedy.

He made the most out of a poor list. Any coach like Walls can win a premiership with the list he had at Carlton. A good coach makes a poor list competitive, and we were the most competitive team in 95 since we lost our last GF in 82. The draw against the bombers that year was one of the toughest displays of footy I've seen at our club in 20 years.

Northey knew he was short on talent, which is why he chased Lockett for 2 years to agree to join us. That hardly sounds like a guy preparing to jump to Brisbane.

He is the one coach we've had in 20 years that looked like he could get the RFC to play competitive footy. And he is the one coach that brought back the fans and mothballs out of the closet, and some excitment back at the club. And the club rewarded him by approaching to Sheedy.






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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2004, 04:47:51 PM »
File.....question for you: What is the difference between Frawley and Northey's situation? Both made the finals ONCE and both wanted an extension on the contract? First time around, we made the right decision......follow it up in 96 and you will get your contract. The second time around we thought we made a mistake in 95 so we give Dud an extra year and one psoli in the ass to go as well....

He wasnt pushed......all he had to do was back it up the year after and he would have been rewarded, but he had the skrofitsa in his ear pulling his strings....

BTW, what sort of idiot would read the papers and then go speak to a club? If he is that stupid to beleive the media then he deserved to go....

For the record, he went to Brisbane and left them in a hole as well.
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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2004, 05:11:44 PM »
The difference was, one was a Richmond premiership player, the other was a perennial winner of wooden spoons at a club where they used to let them bring VBs to training.

Wasnt just paper talk mate. The papers are usually the last to find out.

And KB was in Northey's ear. Northey was sure they were shafting him the way KB was claiming they shafted him. And they were.


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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2004, 05:58:30 PM »
Who knows which way things really were, but if Northey was being shafted then there must have been a good reason for it.

But how they would have justified it at the time would have been a PR nightmare, to say the least.  Not that things worked out brilliantly the way they eventually did anyway. :P

Whether he went or was pushed, Northey could only ever take a team to a competitive level and even though he could get the most out of his players, he couldn’t get them a premiership, because he was too one dimensional in his approach to coaching.

Being competitive would have kept people happy for the short-term, but once the results stagnated, people would have become restless and he would have went the same way as others before him.  He just saved others the trouble of moving him on at some stage.
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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2004, 06:35:23 PM »
Both duds of the utmost pedigree.

Frawley had biger balls than Northey and copped it on the chin (lol)as opposed to Northey
deserting on the strength of what he had HEARD.

I hated Northey's guts.
As far as his coaching ability - LMAO.
 
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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2020, 10:01:47 PM »
Northey tonight on the Front Bar said all he wanted was security and the Club wouldn't give him that despite a Prelim finish in 1995. He said loved the club he played for and always had wanted to return to coach the Tigers (which he did in 1993). Blamed the failures of those years on those running the club continually sacking coaches. Thanked that it's different now.

The Front Bar showed a news clip from that time of two Richmond officials flying to Perth to try and get Malthouse to coach us. Too bad he was on holidays and wasn't in Perth. Northey tonight replied "That would be so typical".   

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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2020, 06:21:32 PM »
I played under Northey when he led Redan to 3 premierships in a row so I'm biased.

The idea that Northey was a poor coach who just relied on a fire and brimstone approach is laughable but a very successful PR stunt led by that 13 game champion of the RFC, Mal Brown.

For the record Northey went from Redan to St Kilda as Assistant under Mike Patterson and was sacked at the same time as Mike.
He went to Sydney but under the Edelston ownership he was deemed too quiet and didn't get enough publicity. Edelston was chasing Sheedy to take over.

He then coached the Ballarat Football League on a short term basis to 2 country championships. Something they never before or since have got close to.

He then got the job with Melbourne and got them as close as they have in years to the GF.
Stuart Spencer, a Melbourne board member warned him there were people out to get him and he came to Richmond.
At Richmond the main problem both before and since was our constant weak-hearted efforts.
Northey changed that and yet people still continue with this crap about being one-dimensional.

Northey's biggest problem was he was not a political animal like Sheedy.
The same happened at Brisbane where Starcevic (IIRC) the Assistant who shafted Walls wanted the job and did the same to Northey.
The other huge problem at Lions were half the team were from Fitzroy and were chosen by the President before Northey arrived there.

This excuse that Northey was one dimensional and thus doomed to Failure is a joke and should be treated as such.
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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2020, 07:07:17 PM »
I played under Northey when he led Redan to 3 premierships in a row so I'm biased.

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Re: If Northey had stayed?
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2023, 03:49:54 PM »
80th birthday today  :birthday.

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