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Re: Contoversial Topic #1 - Global Warming & Carbon Emissions Trading
« Reply #375 on: January 09, 2020, 11:38:02 AM »
Not much of a debate anymore - the global warming and climate change is very real unless you want to buy into the conspiracy and suggest the bureau of meteorology is in the pocket of the Greens!

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Re: Contoversial Topic #1 - Global Warming & Carbon Emissions Trading
« Reply #376 on: January 09, 2020, 02:06:30 PM »
Why is this marked as a controversial topic? Its not.

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Re: Contoversial Topic #1 - Global Warming & Carbon Emissions Trading
« Reply #377 on: January 10, 2020, 04:29:25 PM »
Why is this marked as a controversial topic? Its not.
Not from a science perspective.

This thread goes back to 2009 just as denialist Abbott became opposition leader (and then future PM) and he and his political cronies wrecked havoc by denying evidence of and action on climate change for their own political benefit on advice from Credlin as she latter admitted. Then add their usual scientifically illiterate political cheerleaders in the media (Bolt & co.) who were still trying to claim there had been no warming since 1998. Totally pathetic and morally corrupt behaviour! 

Stuff like this:
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/un-official-talking-through-her-hat-on-bushfires-and-climate-change-says-tony-abbott-20131023-2w0mz.html#ixzz2iWQEhfJo

Hindsight hasn't made Abbott's comments back in 2013 any less ignorant and costly ::).
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Re: Contoversial Topic #1 - Global Warming & Carbon Emissions Trading
« Reply #378 on: January 14, 2020, 03:40:03 PM »


This was one of my favourite quotes from Tony Abbott.



Mr Abbott also said the carbon tax was a socialist policy in disguise.

"Let's be under no illusions the carbon tax was socialism mask raiding as environmentalism," he said.

"That's what the carbon tax was."
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Re: Contoversial Topic #1 - Global Warming & Carbon Emissions Trading
« Reply #379 on: January 19, 2020, 08:04:07 PM »
NASA, NOAA Analyses Reveal 2019 Second Warmest Year on Record.

Globally, 2019 temperatures were second only to those of 2016 and continued the planet's long-term warming trend: the past five years have been the warmest of the last 140 years.

This past year, they were 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit (0.98 degrees Celsius) warmer than the 1951 to 1980 mean, according to scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York.

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-noaa-analyses-reveal-2019-second-warmest-year-on-record



https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20180118/
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Re: Contoversial Topic #1 - Global Warming & Carbon Emissions Trading
« Reply #380 on: January 19, 2020, 09:07:37 PM »
Even the latest Dr Who ep had a climate change message.
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« Reply #381 on: January 20, 2020, 01:03:20 AM »
Even Dr. Who eh? What about Spiderman and Bugs Bunny? I heard Spongebob was particularly concerned about rising sea levels.. :shh
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Re: Contoversial Topic #1 - Global Warming & Carbon Emissions Trading
« Reply #382 on: January 20, 2020, 11:16:34 AM »
Even Dr. Who eh? What about Spiderman and Bugs Bunny? I heard Spongebob was particularly concerned about rising sea levels.. :shh

I think they were all part of the 11,000 scientists who signed the petition  :shh
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« Reply #383 on: January 20, 2020, 10:19:21 PM »
 :shh :shh
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Re: Contoversial Topic #1 - Global Warming & Carbon Emissions Trading
« Reply #384 on: January 27, 2020, 12:34:02 AM »


 :shh
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Re: Contoversial Topic #1 - Global Warming & Carbon Emissions Trading
« Reply #385 on: January 28, 2020, 06:16:48 AM »



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-28/why-finance-is-fleeing-fossil-fuels/11903928


The future of coal has already been decided in boardrooms around the globe.



Early last month, as fire swept across large parts of the east coast and South Australia but before the Christmas conflagration, secret internal documents detailing ANZ's rapid retreat from coal hit the news.


Contrary to its public statements before Parliament just a few weeks before, the bank had formulated a plan to shed more than $700 million in thermal coal loans within the next four years: a 75 per cent reduction.


This was a major shift for ANZ, the country's biggest lender to the coal industry, and one that would bring it into line with the Commonwealth Bank and the National Australia Bank.


A few weeks later, investment bank Goldman Sachs, in one of the strongest positions from any American financier, ruled out future thermal coal financing, either for new mines or power stations globally.


Then, a fortnight ago, the world's biggest investment house Blackrock, announced it was drastically reducing its exposure to thermal coal.





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Re: Contoversial Topic #1 - Global Warming & Carbon Emissions Trading
« Reply #386 on: January 29, 2020, 12:04:07 AM »


 :shh

40 degrees coming this week. Roll out the climate theories again.

it shouldnt happen in February. Greta knows



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Re: Contoversial Topic #1 - Global Warming & Carbon Emissions Trading
« Reply #387 on: January 29, 2020, 04:47:05 PM »
40 degrees coming this week. Roll out the climate theories again.

it shouldnt happen in February. Greta knows
Strawman argument  ::).

Seasonality is taken into account in scientific measurements. It's called "seasonally adjusted" data which compares data from the same time each year for each specific location. If this seasonally adjusted data has a statistically significant trend upwards then temperatures are increasing over time.
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Re: Contoversial Topic #1 - Global Warming & Carbon Emissions Trading
« Reply #388 on: January 29, 2020, 06:19:32 PM »
40 degrees coming this week. Roll out the climate theories again.

it shouldnt happen in February. Greta knows
Strawman argument  ::).

Seasonality is taken into account in scientific measurements. It's called "seasonally adjusted" data which compares data from the same time each year for each specific location. If this seasonally adjusted data has a statistically significant trend upwards then temperatures are increasing over time.

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Re: Contoversial Topic #1 - Global Warming & Carbon Emissions Trading
« Reply #389 on: February 13, 2020, 11:28:33 AM »
They should just let coronaviris spread through china. If they lose half there population that will fix climate change.