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Re: Next TV Right deal
« Reply #60 on: February 25, 2011, 04:03:07 AM »
If the AFL stupidly don't demand live telecasts now then it'll come back to bite them in 5 years time when the next tv rights come around for negotiation. TV Networks won't pay big $$$ if ratings are falling because the public refuses to watch games on over an hour delay.

Having said that if the AFL resort to pay TV to show most of the games then good luck seeing most clubs on FTA including us unless we start seeing some onfield success.
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Re: Next TV Right deal
« Reply #61 on: February 25, 2011, 05:23:02 PM »
If the AFL stupidly don't demand live telecasts now then it'll come back to bite them in 5 years time when the next tv rights come around for negotiation. TV Networks won't pay big $$$ if ratings are falling because the public refuses to watch games on over an hour delay.

Having said that if the AFL resort to pay TV to show most of the games then good luck seeing most clubs on FTA including us unless we start seeing some onfield success.

I am a back from holidays and one of my favourite topics has been in the news I see  ;D

I have said this many times the AFL wont demand live games on FTA because they want the $$$ - that's the most important thing to them, always has been always will be. Mike Sheahan is actually right saying they should drop their price as sweetner to get all games live

That's why the AFL are loving being able to sell directly to PayTV because it means more $$$. It's isn't their concern that it actually means less people will have access to the games on TV.

I must say I am surprised that the FTA networks are trying to get more games on their digi channels but that's a topice for another day  ;D   

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Re: Next TV Right deal
« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2011, 01:37:25 AM »
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AN UNPRECEDENTED number of AFL games will be shown live over the next five-year television agreement - but the majority of them will be shown on pay TV.

It has emerged that Foxtel is pushing for all nine AFL games to be shown live on its channels from 2012 with the AFL's pay TV carrier keen to pitch itself against the free-to-air channels - still likely to be channels Seven and Ten - which would not be compelled to televise home-and-away games live.

However, Seven has resisted sharing Friday night football and Ten has shown equal reluctance to allow a Saturday night double billing with Foxtel, which, at this stage, paves the way for Foxtel to purchase - either independently or via the free-to-air consortium - seven AFL games all of which would be shown live.


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/foxtel-seeking-nine-live-games-20110228-1bbqc.html

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Re: Next TV Right deal
« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2011, 06:53:08 AM »
AN UNPRECEDENTED number of AFL games will be shown live over the next five-year television agreement - but the majority of them will be shown on pay TV.

It has emerged that Foxtel is pushing for all nine AFL games to be shown live on its channels from 2012 with the AFL's pay TV carrier keen to pitch itself against the free-to-air channels - still likely to be channels Seven and Ten - which would not be compelled to televise home-and-away games live.

However, Seven has resisted sharing Friday night football and Ten has shown equal reluctance to allow a Saturday night double billing with Foxtel, which, at this stage, paves the way for Foxtel to purchase - either independently or via the free-to-air consortium - seven AFL games all of which would be shown live.


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/foxtel-seeking-nine-live-games-20110228-1bbqc.html

And who said with the AFL it's all about the $$$$ not the fans  ;D
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Re: Next TV Right deal
« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2011, 04:08:42 PM »
If the AFL stupidly don't demand live telecasts now then it'll come back to bite them in 5 years time when the next tv rights come around for negotiation. TV Networks won't pay big $$$ if ratings are falling because the public refuses to watch games on over an hour delay.

Having said that if the AFL resort to pay TV to show most of the games then good luck seeing most clubs on FTA including us unless we start seeing some onfield success.

I am a back from holidays and one of my favourite topics has been in the news I see  ;D

I have said this many times the AFL wont demand live games on FTA because they want the $$$ - that's the most important thing to them, always has been always will be. Mike Sheahan is actually right saying they should drop their price as sweetner to get all games live

That's why the AFL are loving being able to sell directly to PayTV because it means more $$$. It's isn't their concern that it actually means less people will have access to the games on TV.

I must say I am surprised that the FTA networks are trying to get more games on their digi channels but that's a topice for another day  ;D   


That's true the AFL only cares about the $$$ as they need to dosh to prop up the two new clubs especially GWS for the next 30 years at the very least. It still's a concern because if Fox gets most of the games each week we'll be stuck with Collingwood on FTA while the rest including us fight over the scraps unless we finally get our act together onfield.
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Live games still a sticking point in new TV deal (Australian)
« Reply #65 on: March 10, 2011, 03:31:47 AM »
Live games still a sticking point in new TV deal
Greg Denham
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March 10, 2011


AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou cannot guarantee live football on free-to-air television from next year.

And yesterday he neither confirmed nor denied Channel Nine was a live player in the market. The AFL coverage is currently shared by networks Seven, Ten and Foxtel.

Channel Seven is in its fifth consecutive year of broadcasting its two games per week on delay. Fans have been outspoken in their criticism of Seven for generally showing Friday night matches on at least a one-hour delay in Victoria and up to a four-hour delay in other states.

Demetriou hinted at least one network was preparing to pay more to show live matches.

He said it should not be assumed that the AFL would be prepared to accept less money in the next broadcast deal, to ensure Friday night matches would be shown live or as close to live as possible.

"People assume that if you go live, you get less money," Demetriou said. "There is actually a premium on showing football live where people would pay extra."

Over time, Demetriou and the AFL have become far more accepting of live television, after an earlier reluctance to provide live coverage for fear attendances would be affected.

"Not wishing to get into a running commentary of broadcast rights, but you've heard me say ad nauseam, live sport is what the world is demanding," Demetriou said. "It's a different world today, everything is so instantaneous.

"What I will guarantee, that there will never be better coverage and reach throughout this country to every corner of the land."

Demetriou said several aspects of the code -- namely the fixture list and grand final -- would not be compromised for additional television revenue (in the next broadcasting rights deal).

He said the league could get more money by settling the fixture six games in advance or by playing a night grand final.

"Our record is very, very consistent. We sacrifice money because our supporters want certainty in the fixture . . . the clubs and the players like it . . . and we actually believe in traditional things like the grand final played during the day," Demetriou said.

"Live sport, including AFL football, is in popular demand . . . the shift has been amazing, and the AFL doesn't ignore those demands."

Demetriou said it would "be preferable" to get an outcome soon. "It should have been done by the end of last December, but because of anti-siphoning not being finalised, that was one of the reasons for the delay," he said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/live-games-still-a-sticking-point-in-new-tv-deal/story-e6frg7mf-1226018714418

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Networks hover over $1bn footy (Age)
« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2011, 01:52:16 AM »
Networks hover over $1bn footy
Caroline Wilson
March 16, 2011



THE first bounce of the AFL season will take on an added off-field dimension this year, with television executives from every major broadcaster headed to Melbourne to make their pitches for the next five years of media rights, which looks certain to reach the $1 billion mark.

The Age understands that the networks were due to make their opening bids tomorrow to coincide with the AFL's official season launch but that those talks have been put off until Thursday, March 24, coinciding with the season-opener between Carlton and Richmond at the MCG.

Channel Ten's interim chief executive, Lachlan Murdoch, with Seven chief executive David Leckie will head a team that plans to put forward a joint bid as part of those two network's contractual agreement stemming from the previous five years of rights. Foxtel, which is certain to make a significantly increased bid from its AFL deal, worth an estimated $50 million a year, will also put forward a new bid along with a predicted proposal from the Nine Network.

Advertisement: Story continues below Murdoch, who has just returned to Australia following a trip to the US for his father Rupert's 80th birthday celebrations, is understood to have come to an agreement with the AFL over the delay. The league is tomorrow scheduled to hold talks with all 17 AFL captains, coaches and presidents and conduct a commission meeting before the season launch at Crown.

Ten remains determined to buy the rights to the unofficial second-best game of the round, to be televised on Saturday night on prime time, but has shown an interest in sharing the Saturday afternoon fixture with Fox Sports - a match Ten could still show on delay. Seven will bid for Friday night football - a fixture it is expected to televise live, despite the AFL being unlikely to force that upon the network - along with a Sunday afternoon game it could share with pay TV.

Channel Nine chief Jeff Browne was unavailable for comment last night but the prevailing view was that Nine remains a significant player in the next five-year bid to start in 2012. The AFL had hoped to have resolved its broadcast rights but the deal has been delayed by the federal government changes to the anti-siphoning legislation which has granted Foxtel the power to bid independently for five exclusive weekly home-and-away games.

While the make-up of the season under the restructured 18-team competition remains unclear, the prevailing view is that the home-and-away season will remain 22 weeks long with venue restrictions caused by cricket in March unlikely to allow a lift to 24 rounds.

The AFL reaped an Australian record $780 million for the last TV rights deal, which will end this year. That agreement involved three per cent escalators each season - an annual increase that would see the next five-year deal worth an estimated $900,000 million, even before taking into account the extra weekly home-and-away fixture with the introduction of two new teams, along with internet rights, which were not included in the previous broadcast rights deal.

Mobile telephone rights are also expected to make a significant jump although the television broadcasters look certain to insist upon a small-screen definition.

The agreement is therefore not likely to be signed until after the start of the season. The appointment of former Channel Seven executive James Warburton into the position of CEO at Ten - the timing of which will be fought out in the NSW Supreme Court in April - is unlikely to postpone negotiations.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/networks-hover-over-1bn-footy-20110315-1bvz8.html

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Channel Nine happy to team with pay-TV in AFL bid (Australian)
« Reply #67 on: March 31, 2011, 01:32:17 AM »
Nine happy to team with pay-TV in AFL bid

    James Chessell
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    March 31, 2011


THE Nine Network has backed a proposal to simulcast most AFL matches live on pay television, as the bidding process for the next set of broadcast rights continues to progress without any firm bids from the free-to-air television networks.

It is believed Nine managing director Jeff Browne has based his network's bid around pay-TV group Foxtel gaining the right to broadcast all nine AFL games per round live from 2012. Foxtel has lobbied the AFL to give it live rights for all regular season games, including the ability to simulcast the four matches per round shown on free-to-air TV.

The AFL is keen to better the $780 million deal struck with Seven and Ten for the 2007-11 broadcast rights, when a last-minute bid from the late Kerry Packer in December 2005 bumped up the price.

Foxtel paid $315m to Seven and Ten for four live games per week plus replays of all games, but has made it clear it would be prepared to pay more this time if it has more extensive live rights.

Seven and Ten remain firm favourites to win the 2012-16 rights and are far less inclined to give Foxtel chief executive Kim Williams the right to simulcast their matches, given such an arrangement eats into their audiences.

While Nine will not match Seven or Ten, the network argues the structure of its deal would result in a larger contribution from Foxtel. It is in Nine's interests to push up the price for Seven and Ten, as it would reduce the networks' ability to bid for the upcoming 2013-17 NRL rights.

Mr Browne, a former AFL lawyer with a background in negotiating broadcast rights, would not comment on the specifics of Nine's proposal. But he told The Australian: "Nobody else has learnt to partner with subscription like Nine."

Asked if he was worried about losing viewers if Nine's games were simulcast on pay-TV, he said: "The Australian Masters golf was also shown live on Foxtel and we got 85 per cent of the audience and they got 15 per cent -- you have to back yourself to do a good job broadcasting in these situations, which is something our (free-to-air rivals) aren't prepared to do."

Nine has struck a deal with Foxtel for the upcoming Rugby World Cup in New Zealand that will allow the pay-TV group to broadcast matches live.

Seven and Ten executives met with AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou, chief operations officer Gillon McLachlan and AFL Commission chairman Mike Fitzpatrick last Thursday.

Nine met with the AFL this week in less formal circumstances. It is believed neither side put a firm bid to the AFL. This has led to speculation the process could be delayed. But most parties remain confident a new deal can be struck in the coming weeks.

Posturing by all sides is a regular feature as broadcast rights reach their final stages, even in a relatively orderly process such as this one. Some television networks believe Mr Demetriou is trying to bankroll what one executive described as an "ill-fated venture into Queensland and western Sydney". Others argue that Mr Demetriou, a hard-nosed negotiator, will not get close to his target of $1 billion for the next five-year deal.

The AFL argues that it is offering broadcasters an increasingly rare commodity in a fragmented media marketplace: lots of programming with mass appeal.

But in a recent research note, Citigroup analyst Justin Diddams argued: "It's becoming increasingly difficult for FTA broadcasters to justify the cost of bidding for premium sports rights, although that hasn't (and most likely won't) stop them bidding for these packages."

The AFL process has been complicated by three main factors. First, Foxtel has argued for a holistic process that includes digital and mobile rights. These rights are of less interest to free-to-air networks who are interested in keeping as big an audience as possible focused on the TV.

Second, Nine's Adelaide and Perth stations are owned by Bruce Gordon's WIN television. This reduces the amount of money the Nine Network could make from these cities from the AFL.

Third, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy is yet to introduce to parliament new anti-siphoning legislation governing sports broadcasting. The shape of the legislation is well-known to the various parties -- four games each round will remain "protected" for free-to-air television -- but it does make matters less certain.

The government's decision to delist the recent season opener between Richmond and Carlton was described as "surprising and disappointing" by Austar chief John Porter this week.

Senator Conroy is also yet to announce the mechanism that will decide which games will be shown on pay-TV and which will be shown on free-to-air TV, although he has made it clear Friday and Saturday night games will remain on free-to-air.

Despite this, even pay-TV executives believe a deal can be struck when the legislation is passed.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/nine-happy-to-team-with-pay-tv-in-afl-bid/story-e6frg8zx-1226030989408

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AFL's $1bn rights deal with live footy (Age)
« Reply #68 on: April 05, 2011, 02:28:34 AM »
AFL's $1bn rights deal
Caroline Wilson
April 5, 2011

 
FRIDAY night football would be televised live every week for the first time and pay TV operator Foxtel would get to show finals live under a landmark $1 billion deal being negotiated between the big networks and the AFL.

Seven, Ten and Foxtel are believed to be close to completing a new five-year agreement with the league to lock in exclusive AFL television rights from the start of next year.

As the deal moves towards its ambitious $1 billion price tag, it has emerged that Seven is close to a compromise with the league to make all Friday night telecasts live - in return for match starting times being pushed back 10 minutes.

In what could prove to be a controversial change among fans who attend matches - particularly families with young children - Friday games would be shifted from their current 7.40pm start to 7.50pm.

The Age understands that Seven and Ten, the free-to-air broadcast partners, have put forward a joint bid of more than $400 million for rights for four AFL games a week from 2012 until 2016, and to share the finals and Brownlow Medal count.

With the inclusion of contra deals, such as free TV advertising for the AFL and clubs, the Seven-Ten bid was last night placed at closer to $450 million, or about $30 million less than the existing five-year deal.

Foxtel is believed to have bid about $500 million under a proposal that would see it televise seven of the nine weekly games that will be played in the expanded 18-team competition from 2012. Five of the games would be exclusive.

Foxtel would also simulcast with free-to-air networks the first two weeks of AFL finals in a deal that would stipulate simultaneous commercials on each. Foxtel could yet win the right to simulcast preliminary finals, but the grand final would be alternated exclusively between Seven and Ten, as would the Brownlow.

The $1 billion total rights figure would be reached once the AFL completed a new online agreement with Telstra. The broadcast deal could be completed over the coming weeks.

The Nine network is not yet totally out of contention for free-to-air rights, and is believed to be willing to share more games with Foxtel than Seven and Ten.

Seven currently shows Friday night games on about a one-hour delay, and is understood to have put the question of live telecasts back in the AFL's court.

Previously the AFL has not insisted on live telecasts on its terms and conditions. However, the advancement of online media and diminishing effect on crowds, along with other incidentals such as gambling, has made live sport almost mandatory around the world.

The AFL's broadcast executive, Gillon McLachlan, last night refused to comment on the potential time changes on Friday nights. However, he said there was nothing to prevent Foxtel showing finals as long as the telecasts were non-exclusive.

The Australian Financial Review yesterday sourced Foxtel boss Kim Williams as placing his company's bid at about $500 million - double the estimated previous five-year pay TV figure.

It also reported that Seven and Ten had made a joint bid of about $70 million a year, but The Age understands that figure is closer to a cash component of $80 million annually, and about $10 million a year in contra.

Under the most likely arrangements, Seven would continue to get two games a week - Friday night live and Sunday afternoon live, with a later start of 3.10pm. Ten would continue to cover two Saturday matches, with the night game exclusive.

Foxtel would have exclusive rights to three Saturday games - afternoon, twilight and night - along with the Sunday 1.10pm and twilight matches. The carve-up would change on public holiday weekends, and the AFL would continue to experiment with occasional Thursday night and Monday night games.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afls-1bn-rights-deal-20110404-1cyqz.html

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Re: AFL's $1bn rights deal with live footy (Age)
« Reply #69 on: April 05, 2011, 08:08:07 AM »
..so over half the games will only be available to a small percentage of the population?

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Re: AFL's $1bn rights deal with live footy (Age)
« Reply #70 on: April 05, 2011, 08:24:36 AM »
..so over half the games will only be available to a small percentage of the population?

The clowns are in charge of the circus!

Are you genuinely surprsied al?

Said it before and will say it again (and yes I know it's boring) Andy D and his croonies are not interested in giving the fans the best deal, they are more interested in getting their Billion bucks....

At what cost to the fans? Well what does it matter they'll have a Billion $$$$
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Re: AFL's $1bn rights deal with live footy (Age)
« Reply #71 on: April 05, 2011, 12:54:23 PM »
AFL firmly denies report in The Age about $1 billion TV rights deal

    Michael Warner, Shannon Deery
    From: Herald Sun
    April 05, 2011


UPDATE 10.52am: THE AFL has firmly denied a report that a $1 billion deal that would see Friday night football televised live every week for the first time.

AFL corporate affairs manager Brain Walsh this morning told heraldsun.com.au no deal had been struck between TV networks and the AFL.

It comes after The Age reported in a front page story that a deal would see TV networks Seven, Ten and Foxtel locked in an exclusive five-year AFL rights deal.

But as reported in the Herald Sun today, Seven station chief Lewis Martin late last night strongly denied reports a $1 billion deal had already been struck.

The denials come after the AFL confirmed that Friday night's Pies v Blues match will be shown live on TV, with a new start time.

The Round 3 blockbuster between Carlton and Collingwood at the MCG will now start at 7.50pm.

Footy fans kicked a major goal when Channel 7 agreed to broadcast the game live, after initially refusing, in the latest sign that footy could soon be shown live every Friday.

Seven yesterday relented to pressure from fans and Herald Sun readers, agreeing to dump Better Homes and Gardens in favour of the top-of-the-ladder showdown.

Negotiations for the lucrative five-year TV rights deal are in the final stages, with AFL chief Andrew Demetriou under increasing pressure to enforce compulsory live broadcasts of all home and away games.

He has previously challenged the networks to "get out of the dark ages" and end delayed coverage.

Seven is bidding in conjunction with Channel 10 against rival Channel 9, while Foxtel will buy five weekly pay TV matches for up to $500 million.

Despite claims that Channels 7 and 10 have secured a deal, Nine was last night convinced it was still in with a chance of reclaiming the broadcast rights it lost five years ago for $780 million.

The major delay in the rights negotiations has been Seven's refusal to relinquish the top-rating Better Homes and Gardens in the blue chip 7.30pm timeslot.

Seven has examined a range of options to appease the AFL, including later start times on Friday nights.

The network has indicated it would not be prepared to pay top dollar if forced to abandon Better Homes and Gardens.

Another element of negotiations is a move for Foxtel to be able to show the same matches as free-to-air stations.

Finals football, the Grand Final and the Brownlow medal are also key elements of the deal.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tipped-to-see-carlton-take-on-collingwood/story-e6frf9jf-1226033539163

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Re: AFL's $1bn rights deal with live footy (Age)
« Reply #72 on: April 05, 2011, 09:47:25 PM »
..so over half the games will only be available to a small percentage of the population?

The clowns are in charge of the circus!
Hopefully by the time the new tv deal comes in we'll be finally pushing up the ladder and with our supporter base we'll get more Friday and Saturday night games on free-to-air and they'll be live (what's 10 minutes).
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Channel 9 pitches TV deal to AFL (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #73 on: April 06, 2011, 03:16:14 AM »
Channel 9 pitches TV deal to AFL
Michael Warner
Herald Sun
April 06, 2011


CHANNEL 9 remains in the race for control of the AFL's next round of broadcast rights.

Nine chiefs met league officials to pitch a deal in which all nine home-and-away matches every week would be shown live on free-to-air or Foxtel.

The AFL's negotiating team comprises commission chairman Mike Fitzpatrick, chief executive Andrew Demetriou, chief operating officer Gillon McLachlan and commission member Chris Lynch.

Fitzpatrick is to fly to London at the end of the week to attend a Rio Tinto board meeting and could be absent for eight days, possibly dragging the negotiations deeper into the AFL season.

The AFL is eyeing a payday of $1 billion, up from $780 million under the existing deal.

Foxtel will pay about $500 million, leaving Nine or rival co-bidders Seven and Ten to fork out the rest.

Collingwood president and Nine employee Eddie McGuire yesterday slammed reports Channel 7 was lobbying for 7.50pm game starts to accommodate Better Homes & Gardens on Friday nights.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/channel-9-pitches-tv-deal-to-afl/story-e6frf9jf-1226034326407

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Re: Next AFL TV Rights deal
« Reply #74 on: April 06, 2011, 07:11:25 PM »
Caro is sticking to her story about Foxtel getting at least 7 of the 9 games and they are going for all 9 ("the deal breaker") with the Friday and Saturday nighters being simulcast alongside Seven and Ten's coverage. Foxtel is also going for all finals excluding the Grand Final. According to Caro if not this rights but definitely the next rights you'll need Foxtel - "It'll become part of our footy culture".