Terry Wallace never had a chance: Miller (Herald-Sun)

[jackstar is back again]

I thopught it was a decent article too! It has highlighted what all the coaches since 1982 have to deal with, no money and no infrastructure! About Pagan paying runners in his final year out of his own pocket so he could have the best staff- he got sacked! Didnt work!

But , both knew the receipe for success. Both had brilliant staff, thats why so many of Sheeds assistants have gone on to coach.

Once Sheeds had success at the Bombers, he never lacked for money.  I'm sure his club never stripped finances from his department as Wallace and others at Richmond have had to deal with.

Richmond stripped money for finances as they had to pay Wallace 
As I have said for years on here, if he was a CEO for any big company, he would of been outed after after 2 years for failure to deliver and we as a club would be 3 years closer to playing finals

[FNM]

And just on you, Jack, anyone who knows you knows you can't keep a secret
You're a walking time bomb for any club
Why would they pay someone like that?

The club has more leaks than the titanic, fact- Most footyclubs do though
Havent been there for 3 years and know more about the place now than I did when I was there.
Aint  my fault the thing leaks like a siv.
You have to realise this, most players have best mates who play other clubs, thats a fact of life. They grew up with them and they sociallise outside football together.
What about last weeks leak, wanna blame me for that as well?
What about the circus mid year last year, want to blame me for that as well.
Move on.
T

Anyone who spreads them, whether they are the originators or some bloke 100 down the line, is doing the club an injustice and not someone you'd want on your payroll

[Penelope]

There must be be some element of truth to what miller is saying here, and as smokey says he doesnt just try to shift the blame, he admits his own failings, something that is difficult to do and not many people will ever do that in their entire life.

As for Wallace, if he was in a situation where the whole structure, or lack there, of the organisation, or lack of support or whatever, made it impossible to to the job he was paid to do, he should have walked away from it. To continue to take that sort of money to do a job where you have minimal chance of delivering what you said you would is pretty poor form. To me that is putting monetary gain ahead of all else, including self pride. After all, he left Footscray saying something along the lines that he had taken the playing group as far as they could go.

Now just to throw a bit more fuel on the fire, there is an interesting post on PRE about T Wallet.
http://www.puntroadend.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=39367.msg1077408#msg1077408

[jackstar is back again]

And just on you, Jack, anyone who knows you knows you can't keep a secret
You're a walking time bomb for any club
Why would they pay someone like that?

The club has more leaks than the titanic, fact- Most footyclubs do though
Havent been there for 3 years and know more about the place now than I did when I was there.
Aint  my fault the thing leaks like a siv.
You have to realise this, most players have best mates who play other clubs, thats a fact of life. They grew up with them and they sociallise outside football together.
What about last weeks leak, wanna blame me for that as well?
What about the circus mid year last year, want to blame me for that as well.
Move on.
T

Anyone who spreads them, whether they are the originators or some bloke 100 down the line, is doing the club an injustice and not someone you'd want on your payroll

Ask Fev.

[FNM]

Ask Fev.

Back to you, do you agree with what I said?

[jackstar is back again]

well, you would want to get rid of some people still there then.
Hardwick already has problem.- he inheritted
The place needed a complete clean out which hasnt happened.
Even Doctor Death is still there

[Smokey]

The place needed a complete clean out which hasnt happened.

Are there no good people at the club Jack?

[FNM]

well, you would want to get rid of some people still there then.
Hardwick already has problem.- he inheritted
The place needed a complete clean out which hasnt happened.
Even Doctor Death is still there

Then name them, Jack
In any organisation, if someone in a company is giving trade secrets away to opposition companies, you would have no hesitation in giving them the boot.

[Ramps]

Another rubbish effort from someone whose record at Richmond doesnt stand up. He says outside influences- I say, the outside influences werent the ones who stuffed up the recruiting, they werent the ones who selected Oakley Nicholls or Hughes or Casserley or Meyer or Pattison or the rest, they werent the ones taking older experienced players like Kingsley. Just a rubbish piece to be honest. The supporters know the truth and this article is crap and everyone knows it.

[Penelope]

I think the point is Ramps that all these things contribute to the dysfunction of the club. As much as I believe Wallace and co have to take a fair portion of the blame, this RFC has not seen any real success for close to thirty years, so that that says to me there is an endemic culture at the club that leads to failure. Even if you could put forward a case that this period of failure lays solely at the feet of each and every coach, that would lead to questioning the people that keep appointing these coaches.

[Ramps]

pick 19 for McMahon - yeah lets blame the supporters ffs 

[Smokey]

pick 19 for McMahon - yeah lets blame the supporters ffs 

Who blamed the supporters for anything?

And Wallace mentions that on some occasions the decision to recruit/not recruit was overruled by the board so where does the real blame lie?  It's far to simplistic and ignorant to lay the blame for failure at the feet of one person.

[FNM]

If what he says there were people at board level making all the decisions and interfering, then they get off scot-free and as usual we just blama a couple of handy scapegoats and we continue on our merry way not scrutinising and forever be failures as an organisation.
i know everyone is in pain over this club and you want to blame someone for every woe this club has been through but, to me, everyone has to be responsible for their actions.
Waiting and hoping Wallace and co will come out and take sole responsibility, well that's not going to happen, because clearly it's not all their actions that have kept this club down.
So we move on and hope we learn from mistakes of the past.

[Ramps]

pick 19 for McMahon - yeah lets blame the supporters ffs 

Who blamed the supporters for anything?

And Wallace mentions that on some occasions the decision to recruit/not recruit was overruled by the board so where does the real blame lie?  It's far to simplistic and ignorant to lay the blame for failure at the feet of one person.

Miller blamed outside influences ie. coteries, old players, other outside influences and others  Secondly, If im not mistaken, wasnt Miller a part of the clinton casey board? wasnt he the one who jumped on the casey ticket to ensure the victory? give it up ffs. Its just total crap from someone who shouldnt be saying anything. The record at Richmond during his time is diabolical -just disgraceful.

[FNM]

pick 19 for McMahon - yeah lets blame the supporters ffs 

Who blamed the supporters for anything?

And Wallace mentions that on some occasions the decision to recruit/not recruit was overruled by the board so where does the real blame lie?  It's far to simplistic and ignorant to lay the blame for failure at the feet of one person.

Miller blamed outside influences ie. coteries, old players, other outside influences and others  Secondly, If im not mistaken, wasnt Miller a part of the clinton casey board? wasnt he the one who jumped on the casey ticket to ensure the victory? give it up ffs. Its just total crap from someone who shouldnt be saying anything. The record at Richmond during his time is diabolical -just disgraceful.

Those comments mean to me you'd prefer to remain a basketcase forever
If you don't examine where we went wrong "properly" you may as well give up