D. Hardwick

[wayne]

Did Melbourne play everyone behind the ball ??? NO

Question is, did Melbourne play their gameplan they've been learning from Bailey for the past 2 years, or did Bailey do a Wallace and throw it out the window and just told the Dees to play man-on-man.

The pressure we put on in the first half will be too much for some of the lower teams and we'll see more fruit for the players labour.

I saw good signs tonight.  

[jackstar is back again]

I seen some good signs as well.
Thought Martin was excellent,  Cotchin and Thursfield as well.
McGaune had a go.
Seen worrying signs as well.
Post has gone backwards.
Nahas is scared.
Tambling   Completely gone
Reidwoldt is a BIG worry

[Francois Jackson]

The result did not matter.

I actually thought the effort without the ball was good. We worked hard running back filling the space in front of Hall and our one percenters were there. Something we have not been accountable in.

Our problem lies when we do have the ball and that is because we turn it over and our decision making is poor. Something Dimma is working hard on.

Would rather watch the kids learn by being thrown in the deep end and asked to see how they cope with it rather than sensationalise everything and overreact to a 12 goal loss to the pre season premiership favourite. I would rather lose with kids by 12 goals and know there is an up side than lose by 12 goals with an experienced side and then say he needs to get rid of this this and that and we are nowhere. We are closer tonight to where we need to be with another game into the kids than where we were last game.

If someone told you the dogs were a 12 goal better side than us two weeks ago you wouldn't disagree. Why sensationalise it now and ask for the coaches head when clearly we are two years into a three year deal with the youngest list in the league.

correct!!

The players have been asked to sink or swim and some are siking fast. Well im glad because we have been carrying them for too long.

That doesnt bother me because those players will be offloaded come seasons end.

Il standby Hardwick all the way because i see what he is trying to do. Even by resisting the tempation to play Mclovin and Tuck says a lot about what he wants to achieve with this list.

Can he coach? Maybe he can maybe he cant time will tell but he is not after short term fixes like those losers Spud and Leatherskin and thats gotta be a good thing..

[Ramps]

Ive been thinking all night about putting up a thread about Riewoldt. Hes not coming along as he should. There are some good forwards in the draft this year. Jack Darling and Sam Day just to mention 2, we also have Griffiths and Astbury to look at

Anyone consider giving Jack up for some decent compensation trade wise?

[3121]

You might find that what I posted is 100% correct.
Watch the replay.write down the starting 6 inside F50 and D 50 and the interchange.
This isnt good.

I don't need to watch the replay, I was closer to the game than you may think, I saw every player come & off through those interchange gates, and every positional change.  I'm debating your opening statement, "ONLY positional change for the night was putting Simmonds are forward in the last 10 minutes of the game when he was completely SPENT", which is a reflection of your undertanding of the game.

I wish you stick to the topic and stop going round in circles.

[wayne]

Even by resisting the tempation to play Mclovin and Tuck says a lot about what he wants to achieve with this list.

I reckon the main reason these two can't get a game is because they can't stick to the gameplan.

[Francois Jackson]

Ive been thinking all night about putting up a thread about Riewoldt. Hes not coming along as he should. There are some good forwards in the draft this year. Jack Darling and Sam Day just to mention 2, we also have Griffiths and Astbury to look at

Anyone consider giving Jack up for some decent compensation trade wise?

He needs help Ramps. He is surrounded by the cast of Fantasy Island how could he be expected to kick all the goals

What do you expect him to do when the ball travels 5 metres above his head most times.

I think Post will come on but more importantly we need Astbury and Griffiths up there with him and then you will see a different Jack.

[jackstar is back again]

You might find that what I posted is 100% correct.
Watch the replay.write down the starting 6 inside F50 and D 50 and the interchange.
This isnt good.

I don't need to watch the replay, I was closer to the game than you may think, I saw every player come & off through those interchange gates, and every positional change.  I'm debating your opening statement, "ONLY positional change for the night was putting Simmonds are forward in the last 10 minutes of the game when he was completely SPENT", which is a reflection of your undertanding of the game.

I wish you stick to the topic and stop going round in circles.

I write down at the start of each quarter the 6 D50 players on ballers and F 50.
Can tell you, NOTHING CHANGED

[Gigantor]

post tonight got his hands on the footy plenty of times but just couldnt hang on to it,and that destroyed his confidence....Marking is his trump card and he needs to get that right

[Go Richo 12]

I seen some good signs as well.
Thought Martin was excellent,  Cotchin and Thursfield as well.
McGaune had a go.
Seen worrying signs as well.
Post has gone backwards.
Nahas is scared.
Tambling   Completely gone
Reidwoldt is a BIG worry

FOS!
Jack is doing good considering there is no one else down his end take pressure off! Postie was terrible early but will improve, it was his first game!

[Ramps]

Jack misses to many shots for goal and thats a problem for a key forward

[3121]

I think Post will come on but more importantly we need Astbury and Griffiths up there with him and then you will see a different Jack.

Quality post Daniel.  Let's start with Post first.  Came in tonight for his first game of the season and would of been blown away by the speed of the opposition, not only offensively but also defensively.  Was crucified at times with the poor delivery too him and at times was thinking too much ahead which caused him to drop marks.  2-3 weeks in and he'll be up to speed with the tempo, where he plays will depend on our available structure because as you mentioned if Astbury & Griffiths come in the side Reiwoldt will have less pressure on him.  Astbury may take a minimum of 4-6 weeks before he gets looked at (injured at the moment, Griffiths maybe the later half of the year depending how he comes up after injury.  The idea by some people off-loading Jack is simply wrong.

[jackstar is back again]

Jack misses to many shots for goal and thats a problem for a key forward

Correct.

[Hellenic Tiger]

Jack misses to many shots for goal and thats a problem for a key forward

Agreed second quarter members stand side city end. Pulled it left. Same shot similar distance missed it left by the same margin 10 minutes later.

Like his effort but delivery into the area not conjucive for him. Even with Richo fit we would be struggling. Need Astbury and Griffiths in the side to develop.

[tigersalive]

Ive been thinking all night about putting up a thread about Riewoldt. Hes not coming along as he should. There are some good forwards in the draft this year. Jack Darling and Sam Day just to mention 2, we also have Griffiths and Astbury to look at

Anyone consider giving Jack up for some decent compensation trade wise?

He needs help Ramps. He is surrounded by the cast of Fantasy Island how could he be expected to kick all the goals

What do you expect him to do when the ball travels 5 metres above his head most times.

I think Post will come on but more importantly we need Astbury and Griffiths up there with him and then you will see a different Jack.

Pretty well what Hardwick just said in the Press Conference along with mentioning Troy Taylor and Relton Roberts as those that will help the forward line in the future.