Joel wasn't the same player after those collarbone breaks early in his career. Before the breaks he was both an inside and outside player. IMO the injuries affected him mentally for the next say 8 years until Wallace pushed him to FB on the big key forwards like Jonathon Brown and Tredrea.
ottens was a huge loss
If Otto played every year as he did in 2001 then no one would have wanted him to go. The problem was his next 3 years were ordinary (falling on a stake in his garden didn't help) and he wanted out anyway. His first two years at Geelong were nothing to write home about which lead to Bomber Thompson's "leave him alone all of you" lol press conference. If we had held onto him for those two further years we would've been bagged by the media for not trading him when we had the chance. In the end the trade was right. We just stuffed up the picks we gained from that trade at the draft.