Author Topic: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)  (Read 4602 times)

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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2010, 11:13:52 AM »
yes but it meant we wouldnt be getting picks 4&6 this season, not to mention that pick 18 last season could have netted us bastinac too. I'm sorry but it was a big deal and amazingly stupid to win games against the likes of melbourne & essendon

Just responding to the McMahon comment TM, not the issue of tanking.  McMahon's kick did not cost us anything regarding picks yet regularly gets trotted out as the blame piece.  My thoughts on tanking are well known and well debated on here, and most certainly don't need me to rehash them!  ;)

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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2010, 11:29:36 AM »
yes but it meant we wouldnt be getting picks 4&6 this season, not to mention that pick 18 last season could have netted us bastinac too. I'm sorry but it was a big deal and amazingly stupid to win games against the likes of melbourne & essendon

Just responding to the McMahon comment TM, not the issue of tanking.  McMahon's kick did not cost us anything regarding picks yet regularly gets trotted out as the blame piece.  My thoughts on tanking are well known and well debated on here, and most certainly don't need me to rehash them!  ;)

no prob smokey but I would argue that it did in fact directly cost us picks, pick 18 last season and pick 6 this season.

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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2010, 11:37:01 AM »

Just responding to the McMahon comment TM, not the issue of tanking.  McMahon's kick did not cost us anything regarding picks yet regularly gets trotted out as the blame piece.  My thoughts on tanking are well known and well debated on here, and most certainly don't need me to rehash them!  ;)

no prob smokey but I would argue that it did in fact directly cost us picks, pick 18 last season and pick 6 this season.

Difference between 18 and 19 is not an argument - it's a nitpick!   ;D  I'm certain we still would have taken Griffiths.

How did it cost us pick 6 this season?

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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2010, 11:42:07 AM »

Just responding to the McMahon comment TM, not the issue of tanking.  McMahon's kick did not cost us anything regarding picks yet regularly gets trotted out as the blame piece.  My thoughts on tanking are well known and well debated on here, and most certainly don't need me to rehash them!  ;)

no prob smokey but I would argue that it did in fact directly cost us picks, pick 18 last season and pick 6 this season.

Difference between 18 and 19 is not an argument - it's a nitpick!   ;D  I'm certain we still would have taken Griffiths.

How did it cost us pick 6 this season?

Unless Im mistaken it cost us pick 18 as well as pick 19 for taking us over tthe 4.5 wins cutoff for a PP. If im wrong i apologise in advance  :lol

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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2010, 12:08:32 PM »

Just responding to the McMahon comment TM, not the issue of tanking.  McMahon's kick did not cost us anything regarding picks yet regularly gets trotted out as the blame piece.  My thoughts on tanking are well known and well debated on here, and most certainly don't need me to rehash them!  ;)

no prob smokey but I would argue that it did in fact directly cost us picks, pick 18 last season and pick 6 this season.

Difference between 18 and 19 is not an argument - it's a nitpick!   ;D  I'm certain we still would have taken Griffiths.

How did it cost us pick 6 this season?

Unless Im mistaken it cost us pick 18 as well as pick 19 for taking us over tthe 4.5 wins cutoff for a PP. If im wrong i apologise in advance  :lol

I think the cutoff is 4 games or less so we were screwed when we beat Essendon - McMahon's kick against Melbourne had nothing to do with it.  But, like you, I'm happy to apologize in advance if I'm wrong.  :thumbsup

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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2010, 12:14:38 PM »
McMAHON DIDN'T COST US ANYTHING

The only thing McMahon did was allow Melbourne to get Pick 1 & 2
We lost our priority pick when we beat Essendon

Yep.  And then we would had to have made a choice between Martin and either of Scully or Trengrove - whoever Melbourne didn't want.  Made no difference to us, we still didn't get an extra pick, just meant we might not have taken Martin.

Interesting thing about this while there is a chance Scully and Trengrove will be better players I am not sure if the the RFC would have been better to choose either of them.  We badly need players ready in size and ability to step into a struggling side and hold their own, I think Martin is the player that most fits this bill.

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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2010, 12:44:46 PM »
I find it annoying this view of people that due to the concessions and our state we are destined to be on the bottom for years.
I think they are making the mistake of linking how bad we are now to our ability to be at least competitive in 2-3 years time..
Hopefully the club doesn't screw it up and in 2-3 years time we start to prove a lot of people wrong..

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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2010, 01:13:23 PM »

Just responding to the McMahon comment TM, not the issue of tanking.  McMahon's kick did not cost us anything regarding picks yet regularly gets trotted out as the blame piece.  My thoughts on tanking are well known and well debated on here, and most certainly don't need me to rehash them!  ;)

no prob smokey but I would argue that it did in fact directly cost us picks, pick 18 last season and pick 6 this season.

Difference between 18 and 19 is not an argument - it's a nitpick!   ;D  I'm certain we still would have taken Griffiths.

How did it cost us pick 6 this season?

Unless Im mistaken it cost us pick 18 as well as pick 19 for taking us over tthe 4.5 wins cutoff for a PP. If im wrong i apologise in advance  :lol

I think the cutoff is 4 games or less so we were screwed when we beat Essendon - McMahon's kick against Melbourne had nothing to do with it.  But, like you, I'm happy to apologize in advance if I'm wrong.  :thumbsup
Correct, we lost our priority pick in the win against Essendon, not Melbourne

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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2010, 01:34:29 PM »
though oddly, many of them are so conditioned to doom and defeat, they have accepted this travesty. .

That's all u weak pricks on here who cop it week in,week out and point the finger at others.
Well done - you made the paper!! :thumbsup


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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2010, 02:00:51 PM »
I'd have no problem accepting Pick 1 in 2012 in addition to our other picks if we have 4 wins or less both this year and next year
It would only be fair to make up what we missed out on in 2010-11

Great minds think alike mate. I was going to make a similar point - I don't reckon there's anything wrong with retrospective redistribution/compensation for priority picks that would have taken place in a non-compromised draft.


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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2010, 03:18:51 PM »
though oddly, many of them are so conditioned to doom and defeat, they have accepted this travesty. .

That's all u weak pricks on here who cop it week in,week out and point the finger at others.
Well done - you made the paper!! :thumbsup

We're famous  :bow

I can't stand it when we lose posters target the coaches or our developing players like a few on field decision would make a $#%^& difference this year! We are where we are because of never taking our medicine, always demanding immediate success as a supporter base, taking shortcuts with our list development and never investing in development and recruiting. We have been embarrassing incompetent!  :banghead

But rather than point the finger at past administrators or, even worse, current ones, lets learn from our mistakes and support our own during one of the toughest time we will have ever face as an organisation. If the club does not hold true to its word and take no shortcuts this time then we will continue to be infinitely the worst club in the league.

Solutions and work is what we need from everyone not malcontents!!!  :nopity  :gotigers :pray

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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2010, 03:35:05 PM »
solutions often come from malcontent  :)

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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2010, 03:44:24 PM »
just win 4 matches!

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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2010, 03:47:54 PM »
though oddly, many of them are so conditioned to doom and defeat, they have accepted this travesty. .

That's all u weak pricks on here who cop it week in,week out and point the finger at others.
Well done - you made the paper!! :thumbsup


lol stuff you pOX :cheers
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Re: No light at end of tunnel for inept Richmond (Age)
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2010, 04:11:24 PM »
solutions often come from malcontent  :)

Well, there's been plenty of malcontent at Richmond in the last 1/4 of a century, but FA solutions
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