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Re: Cotch reported and cops 4 weeks!!! [update: appeal fails]
« Reply #60 on: July 20, 2010, 06:39:17 PM »
Now i'm even gladder he smashed him.
Should have punctured his kydney the stuffing weak dog.

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Re: Cotch reported and cops 4 weeks!!! [update: appeal fails]
« Reply #61 on: July 20, 2010, 06:41:15 PM »
why is that hille gets nothing for all his charges and when nick maxwell broke some kids jaw he gets nothing and cotchin gets 4 weeks for a hit on the lower back?
just dont understand

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Re: Cotch reported and cops 4 weeks!!! [update: appeal fails]
« Reply #62 on: July 20, 2010, 06:42:09 PM »
Unbelievable, how on earth can they argue that was high contact?
I thought in our legal system the onus is on the prosecution to prove the defendant committed an illegal act rather than the defendant having to prove his innocence. Oops I forgot this is the AFL MRP and tribunal system  :banghead. Having said it didn't sound like we had a QC at the appeal hearing to push the fact there was no evidence of high contract from the vision. Instead we had Dr Death there with his zero from two record at the tribunal :help.
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Re: Cotch reported and cops 4 weeks!!! [update: appeal fails]
« Reply #63 on: July 20, 2010, 06:44:11 PM »
north say he has amnesia and a hundred other things and will miss up to two weeks.
Pigs stuffin Ars !!

He'll play this week.

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« Reply #64 on: July 20, 2010, 06:46:27 PM »
wtf are we going in with no QC?

simple argument - prove with vision that Cotch hit him high, otherwise we are arguing concussion caused by severe whiplash (can happen!)

we should appeal this, this is just not right! there is no vision/proof FFS! i have no legal experience but even I can see that without vision, we simply take in an INDEPENDENT doctor to discuss merits of whiplash concussions and throwenough doubts on their presumption of head high contact. THIS IS BULL.poo!



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Re: Cotch reported and cops 4 weeks!!! [update: appeal fails]
« Reply #65 on: July 20, 2010, 06:54:20 PM »
why is that hille gets nothing for all his charges and when nick maxwell broke some kids jaw he gets nothing and cotchin gets 4 weeks for a hit on the lower back?
just dont understand

bartel who Hille smashed kept playing on till the end of the game and played the week after.

This North softie went strraight off to hospital.

Maxwell well thats just plain bull poo
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Re: Cotch reported and cops 4 weeks!!! [update: appeal fails]
« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2010, 07:00:52 PM »
wtf are we going in with no QC?

simple argument - prove with vision that Cotch hit him high, otherwise we are arguing concussion caused by severe whiplash (can happen!)

we should appeal this, this is just not right! there is no vision/proof FFS! i have no legal experience but even I can see that without vision, we simply take in an INDEPENDENT doctor to discuss merits of whiplash concussions and throwenough doubts on their presumption of head high contact. THIS IS BULL.poo!
I agree TM but is there another means to appeal? I thought if you appealed again you could only do so provided you had new/fresh evidence (say a different camera angle of the collision that hadn't been seen before).
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Re: Cotch reported and cops 4 weeks!!! [update: appeal fails]
« Reply #67 on: July 20, 2010, 07:11:07 PM »
A bad decision by Cotchin to drop the shoulder into his opponents back. An even worse one by the MRP panel to offer him three. And just when you think it couldn't get any worse the MRP upholds that as high?
What is the definition of high? WTF?

This is crap.
 
If you bump someone with what we know as a fair bump, in the side, and their head 'whiplashes', is that now high contact as well?

And on the topic too many players from all clubs copped it from commentators on the weekend for attacking an opponent head on. But on each occasion the ball was in the middle of the two players and the opponent only beat them to the ball by a fraction of a second. Although this doesn't apply to the Cotchin case I feel that this will be the next 'example' set by those bastards at the MRP. Geez I hate them. They are ruining the game. Umpires are umpiring to try and reflect their decisions. They are not required to justify their decisions nor the reasons for dismissing appeals. The AFL is continually defending their independence but they are making complete fools of them at AFL HQ.

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« Reply #68 on: July 20, 2010, 07:13:12 PM »
How the stuff was that high contact.

This is why all employees of the AFL should be tested for recreation drugs, not just the players.
A diabolical disgrace by a bunch of half wits. This is not even the result of a kangaroo court but a sheltered workshop.

In article today a Nth player said that the players association were close to asking for the whole system to be reviewed.
If they decide to strike to get this, they will my 100% backing

I've seen some stupidity in my time but classing that as high contact and then leaving it that way when their stupidity is pointed takes the cake.

I really want to say another word for vaginas, but I can't.

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Re: Cotch reported and cops 4 weeks!!! [update: appeal fails]
« Reply #69 on: July 20, 2010, 07:20:46 PM »
How the eff was that high contact.

This is why all employees of the AFL should be tested for recreation drugs, not just the players.
A diabolical disgrace by a bunch of half wits. This is not even the result of a kangaroo court but a sheltered workshop.

In article today a Nth player said that the players association were close to asking for the whole system to be reviewed.
If they decide to strike to get this, they will my 100% backing

I've seen some stupidity in my time but classing that as high contact and then leaving it that way when their stupidity is pointed takes the cake.

I really want to say another word for vaginas, but I can't.

 :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck

The thing is Al, vagina's are both beautiful and functional. Conversely these effing idiots on the MRP are both repugnant and totally useless!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Cotch reported and cops 4 weeks!!! [update: appeal fails]
« Reply #70 on: July 20, 2010, 07:26:05 PM »
We did have a QC  :P


Cotchin out for four
By Adam McNicol
7:00 PM Tue 20 July, 2010



RICHMOND'S Trent Cotchin will miss the Tigers’ next four matches after the tribunal upheld the match review panel's original finding for charging North Melbourne's Sam Wright.

Cotchin pleaded guilty to making reckless and forceful contact with Wright, but he contested the match review panel’s finding that the contact was also high.

However, Cotchin’s effort to have his penalty downgraded was undermined by a medical report lodged by North Melbourne club doctor, Con Mitropoulos.

Dr Mitropoulos stated that when he left the field following the collision, Wright had complained of a sore jaw and cheekbone.

He also had no recollection of where he was, which way North Melbourne was kicking, or what had happened in the collision with Cotchin.

After being taken to hospital for a CAT scan, Wright was found to have suffered concussion.

Cotchin’s player advocate, Michael Tovey QC, argued that Wright could have been concussed when he hit the ground, but the tribunal disagreed and ruled that Cotchin’s shoulder had struck Wright’s head.

After the finding was handed down Cotchin said he was “very disappointed with the outcome”.

If he had lodged an early plea and not taken the case to the tribunal, he could have escaped with a three-game ban.

The Tigers are unlikely to lodge an appeal.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/98624/default.aspx

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Re: Cotch reported and cops 4 weeks!!! [update: appeal fails]
« Reply #71 on: July 20, 2010, 07:31:56 PM »
We did have a QC  :P


Cotchin out for four
By Adam McNicol
7:00 PM Tue 20 July, 2010



RICHMOND'S Trent Cotchin will miss the Tigers’ next four matches after the tribunal upheld the match review panel's original finding for charging North Melbourne's Sam Wright.

Cotchin pleaded guilty to making reckless and forceful contact with Wright, but he contested the match review panel’s finding that the contact was also high.

However, Cotchin’s effort to have his penalty downgraded was undermined by a medical report lodged by North Melbourne club doctor, Con Mitropoulos.

Dr Mitropoulos stated that when he left the field following the collision, Wright had complained of a sore jaw and cheekbone.

He also had no recollection of where he was, which way North Melbourne was kicking, or what had happened in the collision with Cotchin.

After being taken to hospital for a CAT scan, Wright was found to have suffered concussion.

Cotchin’s player advocate, Michael Tovey QC, argued that Wright could have been concussed when he hit the ground, but the tribunal disagreed and ruled that Cotchin’s shoulder had struck Wright’s head.

After the finding was handed down Cotchin said he was “very disappointed with the outcome”.

If he had lodged an early plea and not taken the case to the tribunal, he could have escaped with a three-game ban.

The Tigers are unlikely to lodge an appeal.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/98624/default.aspx

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Re: Cotch reported and cops 4 weeks!!! [update: appeal fails]
« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2010, 07:37:14 PM »
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The thing is Al, vagina's are both beautiful and functional. Conversely these effing idiots on the MRP are both repugnant and totally useless!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah I know Rolls, that why I didn't just call them that. Although the C word is another term for a wonderful thing, it does have different connotations when describing such .....people.
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« Reply #73 on: July 20, 2010, 07:38:22 PM »
I guess you could say that once again Richmond was "conned" :P

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« Reply #74 on: July 20, 2010, 08:06:34 PM »
rubbish decision ... cotch should have ruined the prick for 4 weeks. he hit him in the back not the head. the tribunal can get stuffed the dogs.