Ranking Our Champions

[mightytiges]

2.  KB could and did avoid getting hit hard and for an inside player (and he was an inside player) of his size that took some doing.  Considering he had two streaks of well over 100 games continuous tells you how durable he was.  He was freakish 9and great) I just think (believe) hart was better.

By the same token if Bartlett came along today he would be a star again as well.  He would be Judd like.

As well as pace both Judd has and KB had blistering acceleration off the mark. Hard to tackle someone who's just a blur passing through a pack of players. Even when he was in his 30's KB could turn blokes inside out. Just ask Stan Magro  .

KB also had a wirey body type like a Wanganeen or Tuck. Guys like that just seem to keep going on and on and on and rarely get injured from collisions.

[JohnF]

Speaking of good skinny runts, what do you think of the Melbourne player Robert Flower? Everytime I watch 'The Winners With Flares' on Fox footy this guy seems to be pulling off some remarkably skillful play or outstrengthening guys that look double his weight.

Was he realy as great as he looks on the highlight packages or did he lack some consistency but just did the odd great play during a game?

[Ox]

U gotta realise,Melbourne were the benchmark for schithouse.

Flower was a champ no doubt.
I think he was pretty consistent although i was only a kid and didn't really know what it meant.

[Ox]

U gotta realise,Melbourne were the benchmark for schithouse.

Flower was a champ no doubt.
I think he was pretty consistent although i was only a kid and didn't really know what it meant.

[mightytiges]

Agree with Ox. Flower was a champion playing in a crap side for almost all of his footy career. Like Bobby Skilton was finally rewarded a single finals series in his final year. The only top player the Dees had at that time. As a kid all you heard about Melbourne was Flower's class, Barassi's rants at Gerald Healy at the quarter time huddles lol and Mark "Jacko" Jackson insane but funny antics  . And he kicked 100 goals for the season in Richmond's reserves side in 1980  . Jacko and Hawthorn's FB Kelvin Moore were a classic.

[Fishfinger]

Jacko and Hawthorn's FB Kelvin Moore were a classic.

The reason for Jacko's famous handstands in the goalsquare was because Moore had just told him that he would never be a good footballer for as long as his @rsehole pointed to the ground.

Robert Flower was a freak. Skinny, wore glasses, looked like a geek. What a player! Would have been a star in any side.

[1980]

Speaking of good skinny runts, what do you think of the Melbourne player Robert Flower? Everytime I watch 'The Winners With Flares' on Fox footy this guy seems to be pulling off some remarkably skillful play or outstrengthening guys that look double his weight.

Was he realy as great as he looks on the highlight packages or did he lack some consistency but just did the odd great play during a game?

He was a better footballer than Campbell. The only thing they have in common is that they played for crap teams 

[JohnF]

He was a better footballer than Campbell. The only thing they have in common is that they played for crap teams 

What was that you said about managing to make the thread about Wayne Campbell again? 

[Ox]

And he kicked 100 goals for the season in Richmond's reserves side in 1980 

What year was it that we had Roach in the 1's kicking a ton,Jacko in the 2's kick a ton and  "WHO"In the under 19s
(was it another Jackson-Stevan  ?)

[mightytiges]

And he kicked 100 goals for the season in Richmond's reserves side in 1980 

What year was it that we had Roach in the 1's kicking a ton,Jacko in the 2's kick a ton and  "WHO"In the under 19s
(was it another Jackson-Stevan  ?)

Same year Ox. IIRC it was Peter(?) Lane who kicked 100 goals in the U19's. Left shortly afterwards as did Jacko. Them leaving didn't make any difference though as BT then arrived at Tigerland.

Stevan Jackson was a KP dud we got from the Eagles in the early 90's  . Traded picks 3 and 16 for Jackson and Steven O'Dwyer from the Dees  in another one of those classic Richmond recruiting moves .

[1980]

He was a better footballer than Campbell. The only thing they have in common is that they played for crap teams 

What was that you said about managing to make the thread about Wayne Campbell again? 

Ha! We're both obsessed with him but for opposite reasons! 

[Ox]

And he kicked 100 goals for the season in Richmond's reserves side in 1980 

What year was it that we had Roach in the 1's kicking a ton,Jacko in the 2's kick a ton and  "WHO"In the under 19s
(was it another Jackson-Stevan  ?)

Same year Ox. IIRC it was Peter(?) Lane who kicked 100 goals in the U19's. Left shortly afterwards as did Jacko. Them leaving didn't make any difference though as BT then arrived at Tigerland.

Stevan Jackson was a KP dud we got from the Eagles in the early 90's  . Traded picks 3 and 16 for Jackson and Steven O'Dwyer from the Dees  in another one of those classic Richmond recruiting moves .

Thanx Moighty Toiges.

I remember Jackson now.It was because a long time ex-girlfriend knew him that the name was in my head.

He was actually beyond DUD.

stuff,we were pumping the goal kickers out back in the day.

[Piping Shrike]

And he kicked 100 goals for the season in Richmond's reserves side in 1980 

What year was it that we had Roach in the 1's kicking a ton,Jacko in the 2's kick a ton and  "WHO"In the under 19s
(was it another Jackson-Stevan  ?)

I'd reckon Peter Lane.

[mightytiges]

Here you go Ox for old times sake 

Stevan Jackson: 21 games



1991: Out of the 16 players drafted that year, 9 never played a senior game  and 6 of the remaining others never went on to play more 25 games with us. Names like Todd Breman, Andrew Underwood and John Mrakov along with O'Dwyer and Jackson . Paul Dimattina went to the doggies after not cracking a game with us.   

Our only "win" from that draft was re-drafting David Cloke in the PSD when it use to be in February. He played all 22 games in 91 after 21 the year before. Of course Clokey kicked 8 against the Blues in his and what turned out to be KB's (as coach) last game. 

[WilliamPowell]

I'd reckon Peter Lane.

That's the fella.

I still have an old pick of the 3 of them (Roach, Jackson & Lane) in an old scrap book - I'll try and get it scanned this weekend and post it for those interested.