Do the "Big 4" rivalries still mean as much nowdays?

[one-eyed]

Dimma still thinks so....

Hardwick, meanwhile, does not agree with Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse's assertion that the rivalry between the "big four" Victorian clubs - Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon and Richmond - had diminished over time.

As the Tigers prepared to play the Blues at the MCG on Saturday, Hardwick said his players would lift for a game against an old enemy.

"I think our guys do," he said. "There's been a rivalry with Carlton for a long time, since Richmond got beaten in that Grand Final (1982).

"Generally guys love playing in the big games. The thing that brings out the rivalries is the big crowds and we're hoping there will be 60,000 people there."

Hardwick's young team has the chance at redemption after a 56-point thrashing by Carlton in Round 1

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/stuff/story-e6frf9jf-1225904553019

[Tigermonk]

The team l hate the most Carlton & thier greasy criminal supporters 

 

[Ramps]

Well said Monky 

[TigerTimeII]

The team l hate the most Carlton & thier greasy criminal supporters 

 

effin wogs lol

[Stripes]

My most hated team also for all the above reason too. The fact they keep killing us in the first game of every year doesn't help either 

[Francois Jackson]

talk is cheap. rivalry this rivalry that.

Malthouse is right there is no rivalry because clubs feel sorry for us. My brother a Blues fan feel sorry for our club he even says if he had to have a second favourite team we would be it.

Facts are we have underperformed for 30 years and we no longer draw any resemblance to a rivalry for anyone except maybe Buldogs but even thats gone since leather face got booted out.

its game like this where clubs will begin to hate us again. We need to win this to complete a really nice productive season and at the same time ensure no guarantee of a home final for the Blues.

A win here would be one of the sweetest victories we could ever get.

[the_boy_jake]

Malthouse is right.

Collingwood v Essendon will be one-way traffic.

Rivalries have a negligible result on the result these days. Teams are like machines these days - working within systems and the pace of the game and having players of supreme athletic ability. The scoreboard effect of heart and passion typically only comes to the fore in a quagmire. Essendon will say they are 'up' for this one and get flogged, just like we have done dozens of times overe the last couple of decades.

I'd rather watch two of Collingwood-Geelong-St Kilda-Bulldogs than Collingwood-Essendon/Carlton

Oh, and Essendon would see Hawthorn as much bigger rivals than us.

That said, if you ever got two of the well supported teams firing it would be a huge game. It seems like so long since that has happened. Even in 2001 the writing was on the wall that us and the Blues were a way off Essendon.
 

[Ramps]

we need a huge punch on in this game so we can set up r1 next year 

[Rodgerramjet]

Dimma still thinks so....

Hardwick, meanwhile, does not agree with Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse's assertion that the rivalry between the "big four" Victorian clubs - Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon and Richmond - had diminished over time.

As the Tigers prepared to play the Blues at the MCG on Saturday, Hardwick said his players would lift for a game against an old enemy.

"I think our guys do," he said. "There's been a rivalry with Carlton for a long time, since Richmond got beaten in that Grand Final (1982).

"Generally guys love playing in the big games. The thing that brings out the rivalries is the big crowds and we're hoping there will be 60,000 people there."

Hardwick's young team has the chance at redemption after a 56-point thrashing by Carlton in Round 1

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/stuff/story-e6frf9jf-1225904553019

Dimma mate, the rivalry started well before 1982, try the sixties and early seventies, go and have a chat about Carlton to Tom Hafey. Malthouse is a dipstick. Our rivalry with the supreme scum will never die as long as the game lives.

[smasha]

Dimma still thinks so....

Hardwick, meanwhile, does not agree with Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse's assertion that the rivalry between the "big four" Victorian clubs - Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon and Richmond - had diminished over time.

As the Tigers prepared to play the Blues at the MCG on Saturday, Hardwick said his players would lift for a game against an old enemy.

"I think our guys do," he said. "There's been a rivalry with Carlton for a long time, since Richmond got beaten in that Grand Final (1982).

"Generally guys love playing in the big games. The thing that brings out the rivalries is the big crowds and we're hoping there will be 60,000 people there."

Hardwick's young team has the chance at redemption after a 56-point thrashing by Carlton in Round 1

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/stuff/story-e6frf9jf-1225904553019

Dimma mate, the rivalry started well before 1982, try the sixties and early seventies, go and have a chat about Carlton to Tom Hafey. Malthouse is a dipstick. Our rivalry with the supreme scum will never die as long as the game lives.

Haha,the supreme scum.

[WilliamPowell]

we need a huge punch on in this game so we can set up r1 next year 

What we need is to be competitive in this game (preferably win it) so we have sort of chance of holding onto the round 1 game next year

[Owl]

Cheating, tanking, thieving, warm beer drinking Carlton.  God...please smite their genitals with heavy rocks whenever they reach for the pill ..amen

[dizza]

Cheating, tanking, thieving, warm beer drinking Carlton.

add feral to that list and it sounds like an accurate description of the average Carltank fan.