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RFC and future High Altitude Training?
« on: September 18, 2010, 12:31:55 PM »
The pies have been doing it for years. Maybe high altitude doesnt give you an immediate impact but if you do it for 3 or 4 years the benefits build up and can provide real and long lasting improvement for players. Our club doesnt have the resources I imagine to send the whole squad but we should be looking at sending a group which includes the mids and maybe the flanker types. Anyway, whats peoples views on high altitude.

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Re: High Altitude Training?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 12:34:28 PM »
Good thread this.

Pies would run more than any other side. They use 100% of the turf on every oval playing the boundary line and the corridor. They run everywhere.

The made Geelongs quick running style and link and carry look extremely slow and old.

Certainly make a great point Ramps.
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Re: High Altitude Training?
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2010, 12:36:01 PM »
As I said I think its about the resources but why not send the midfielders for 3 or 4 weeks or a select group of say 10 to 15 players innitially to test it out.

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Re: RFC and future High Altitude Training?
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2010, 12:55:25 PM »
You only get a benefit for a few weeks after returning to a lower altitude so I don't think it would make any difference at all.  I think Collingwood probably get a much bigger benefit from the teamwork aspects of the camp-style training, just as Hawthorn do with Kokoda each season.  I'm a fan of a remote and focused pre-season camp but at high altitude it really has no long lasting physical effect or benefit.

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Re: RFC and future High Altitude Training?
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2010, 03:31:03 PM »
You only get a benefit for a few weeks after returning to a lower altitude so I don't think it would make any difference at all.  I think Collingwood probably get a much bigger benefit from the teamwork aspects of the camp-style training, just as Hawthorn do with Kokoda each season.  I'm a fan of a remote and focused pre-season camp but at high altitude it really has no long lasting physical effect or benefit.

tell tha to the Kenyans lol .. hope i spelt that right :P

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Re: RFC and future High Altitude Training?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2010, 04:05:28 PM »
Good thread.

I've been saying this all year.  The pies knew what they were doing when they started the Arizona/high altitude training 4-5 years ago.  Clearly paying benefits now for them.  Clubs and particularly Richmond should take note and follow suit.  Obviously it would involve a lot of $$$ but I would happily donate toward and incentive such as this should the club throw it out there to the members/supporters.

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Re: RFC and future High Altitude Training?
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2010, 04:51:10 PM »

I would donate to send a couple of our players to Arizona permanently.

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Re: RFC and future High Altitude Training?
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2010, 04:51:53 PM »

and a couple of our "new" posters as well.

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Re: RFC and future High Altitude Training?
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2010, 06:20:05 PM »
Gives no advantage at all. Smokey is 100% on the money
Its a pure bonding of the players

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Re: RFC and future High Altitude Training?
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2010, 06:21:36 PM »

and a couple of our "new" posters as well.

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exactly  :thumbsup

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Re: RFC and future High Altitude Training?
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2010, 12:03:39 AM »
You only get a benefit for a few weeks after returning to a lower altitude so I don't think it would make any difference at all.  I think Collingwood probably get a much bigger benefit from the teamwork aspects of the camp-style training, just as Hawthorn do with Kokoda each season.  I'm a fan of a remote and focused pre-season camp but at high altitude it really has no long lasting physical effect or benefit.

tell tha to the Kenyans lol .. hope i spelt that right :P

The benefit of high altitude training only lasts in the body for a couple of weeks.  Many, many runners use it in the weeks preceding an event but do not choose to live in the region permanently.  The Kenyan runners predominantly come from a small region in the North West of the country and so don't even have to travel within Kenya itself to train - they get the benefits of altitude training by training at home so they will always have that advantage/benefit - and hence the high percentage of them that run well in distance races around the world.  Collingwood would not receive one physiological benefit from the Arizona camp that would be apparent come Round 1.

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Re: RFC and future High Altitude Training?
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2010, 12:16:16 AM »
I think its pretty obvious that we'd be happy for any help in our Round 1 battles with Carlton, hardly has gone to plan for a while lol.
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Re: High Altitude Training?
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2010, 07:38:38 AM »
Good thread this.

Pies would run more than any other side. They use 100% of the turf on every oval playing the boundary line and the corridor. They run everywhere.

The made Geelongs quick running style and link and carry look extremely slow and old.

Certainly make a great point Ramps.

thought u understood footy

i guess i thought wrong

geelong have never been a quick running side, only wojo and varcoe are there real genuine fast runners

geelong have a ply on style and quick ball movement , thats ben their game plan,  play on, fast ball movement and that sit thats why they have so many possessions and useless stats which in todays game wont stand up

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Re: RFC and future High Altitude Training?
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2010, 07:41:08 AM »
You only get a benefit for a few weeks after returning to a lower altitude so I don't think it would make any difference at all.  I think Collingwood probably get a much bigger benefit from the teamwork aspects of the camp-style training, just as Hawthorn do with Kokoda each season.  I'm a fan of a remote and focused pre-season camp but at high altitude it really has no long lasting physical effect or benefit.

tell tha to the Kenyans lol .. hope i spelt that right :P
people tha tlive and train alway sat high altitude are the only ones that benefit, but as smkey says , agfter a few weeksblood counts go back to normal, its all a marketing and promotional stunt

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Re: RFC and future High Altitude Training?
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2010, 07:43:39 AM »
Good thread.

I've been saying this all year.  The pies knew what they were doing when they started the Arizona/high altitude training 4-5 years ago.  Clearly paying benefits now for them.  Clubs and particularly Richmond should take note and follow suit.  Obviously it would involve a lot of $$$ but I would happily donate toward and incentive such as this should the club throw it out there to the members/supporters.

what a load of crud