Brad Miller [merged]

[TigerLand]

Shouldn't be playing if he can't kick goals 15 meters out on a 45 degree angle.

That's not leadership, thats just poo.

[Jackstar is back again]

Both Miller and Hislop will be a waste of space. Can't believe we rookied either!

Amen! Miller is too slow and is out of the play as soon as the ball spills in the marking contest. Hurry back Jack 

Mightytiges

Jackstar

The coaching staff should remember they brought Miller to the club as back-up and he was meant to be playing at Coburg to help onfield with the development of our cubs. He should not be in our 22 when other younger options are available and especially so after last night's "effort". Bring back Postie and time to remember we are rebuilding and meant to be getting gametime into our younger players rather than 27 y.o. VFL standard footballers.

I think it's pretty obvious that Post is not playing in a manner the coaching staff are happy with.

So if he doesnt do the work required, what statement does it send if you play him over someone who does do what the coaches ask.

playing players based on raw ability alone will not create a work ethic/culture required to be successful.

The ball is fairly in Posts court and it's up to him to demand selection over Miller. If he can do this he will become a player worth having.

watched Post yesterday, was ordinary to say the least

[Gigantor]

Yep watched Post closely yesterday too...Is a wonderful mark and has good skills...But unfortunetely to paraphrase jack dyer.."is where the ball aint"all too often.
As far as Miller is concerned i dont mind him..I think he attacks the ball well and adds structure to our team...However his kicking at goal makes me pull my hair out

[Jackstar is back again]

Millers goal kicking is a worry

[sugark]

Millers goal kicking is a worry

GRIFFITHS

[Smokey]

MILLER HAS BEen good for us, and has earned his spot

its not millers fault they picked him to play in humid 30 degree heat as soon as he recovered from the flu

bloody poor selection

Don't kid yourself or believe for a moment that it was humid.  That is the biggest load of crap floating around the media articles from the game.  Couldn't have been less humid, the weather was much much much more mild than Freo vs Saints earlier in the day.  Absolute horsesh1te to think that humidity had any role in what happened.  The dew on the ground however....................

[mightytiges]

Both Miller and Hislop will be a waste of space. Can't believe we rookied either!

Amen! Miller is too slow and is out of the play as soon as the ball spills in the marking contest. Hurry back Jack 

Mightytiges

Jackstar

The coaching staff should remember they brought Miller to the club as back-up and he was meant to be playing at Coburg to help onfield with the development of our cubs. He should not be in our 22 when other younger options are available and especially so after last night's "effort". Bring back Postie and time to remember we are rebuilding and meant to be getting gametime into our younger players rather than 27 y.o. VFL standard footballers.

I think it's pretty obvious that Post is not playing in a manner the coaching staff are happy with.

So if he doesnt do the work required, what statement does it send if you play him over someone who does do what the coaches ask.

playing players based on raw ability alone will not create a work ethic/culture required to be successful.

The ball is fairly in Posts court and it's up to him to demand selection over Miller. If he can do this he will become a player worth having.

watched Post yesterday, was ordinary to say the least

Post is still only 21 and he didn't have only 4 possies (like 27 y.o. Miller did) when he was dropped after the Essendon game (Post had 12 disp., 5 marks, 5 hitouts). Postie is still got a lot to learn but at least he can play as a mobile forward, back (especially as we were missing Grimes) and chip-hit in the ruck at stoppages. The Miller experiment/insurance isn't required now with Jack and Vickery being the two main tall forward goalkickers. Postie should get another shot and after a couple weeks if he is coming along then Griffiths will be ready by then to come in.

[Penelope]

Something about Post's efforts are not impressing the coaching staff. That's the difference. You simply dont pick players on ability alone but take into consideration work ethic and ability to play to instruction. Otherwise you will stay in the mire we have for the last 30 years.

The old adage that a champion team will beat a team of champions still, and always will, ring true.

[tony_montana]

Something about Post's efforts are not impressing the coaching staff. That's the difference. You simply dont pick players on ability alone but take into consideration work ethic and ability to play to instruction. Otherwise you will stay in the mire we have for the last 30 years.

The old adage that a champion team will beat a team of champions still, and always will, ring true.

nailed it right there al, your first sentence (to borrow a line from jackstar) is FACT 

[Hellenic Tiger]

Was Miller's worse game on Sat night. Got in the way of blokes who had the run of it lost it when he had it and everything he touched turned to mush. He has added structure to us but I guess Sat night's game was just the worse case scenario for him many others and the club. Move on. Bring on Sydney.

[DCrane]

I don't buy the 'structure' argument that people are using to justify keeping Miller in the side.
If by 'structure', people mean 'a tall that can bring the ball to ground level at around the 40m mark and take some attention from our No.3 tall', then OK I get it, but sheesh it's not hard, even Hislop can give you that and he gives you a bit more at ground level.

The 'structure' is provided by the coach, it's a role, not a player, and as MT says Post should be given the chance at that role now then Griffiths when he is ready.

Whilst I appreciate his efforts in filling the role when needed, it does have to be said; Miller is as slow as treacle, he looks big, but he has got custard arms and a jelly heart, and if the ball is under his waist, forget it. One of the worst kicks in the comp. Drop him.

[The Big Richo]

I don't buy the 'structure' argument that people are using to justify keeping Miller in the side.
If by 'structure', people mean 'a tall that can bring the ball to ground level at around the 40m mark and take some attention from our No.3 tall', then OK I get it, but sheesh it's not hard, even Hislop can give you that and he gives you a bit more at ground level.

The 'structure' is provided by the coach, it's a role, not a player, and as MT says Post should be given the chance at that role now then Griffiths when he is ready.

Whilst I appreciate his efforts in filling the role when needed, it does have to be said; Miller is as slow as treacle, he looks big, but he has got custard arms and a jelly heart, and if the ball is under his waist, forget it. One of the worst kicks in the comp. Drop him.

 

[Mr Magic]

Agree DCrane. Time to shelve the 'insurance'.

[Willy]

Cant wait til Giff is good to go.
Got high hopes for that big SOB   

[tony_montana]

I don't buy the 'structure' argument that people are using to justify keeping Miller in the side.
If by 'structure', people mean 'a tall that can bring the ball to ground level at around the 40m mark and take some attention from our No.3 tall', then OK I get it, but sheesh it's not hard, even Hislop can give you that and he gives you a bit more at ground level.

The 'structure' is provided by the coach, it's a role, not a player, and as MT says Post should be given the chance at that role now then Griffiths when he is ready.

Whilst I appreciate his efforts in filling the role when needed, it does have to be said; Miller is as slow as treacle, he looks big, but he has got custard arms and a jelly heart, and if the ball is under his waist, forget it. One of the worst kicks in the comp. Drop him.

believe it or not there is actually an art to being able to open up the forward line and give your spearhead some much needed space. Many rookies/raw young players take a few years to learn the correct pattern running.