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Re: Our Rucks
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2010, 07:50:24 AM »
one of the last pieces of the puzzle
go hardcore for a proven ruckman when the window starts to open.

agree with this
real smart clubs grow their own and stockpile. they then off load the ones they dont want often for very good picks. what have we to lose by taking another couple of ruckmen with a mid range to late nd pick and rookieing one.

sydneys two premiership ruckmen jolly and ball cost them picks 11 14 and 41. and they had them both for 5 yrs respectively. they then just  last yr had to go out and pay picks 22 and 28 for mumford and seaby.

imo go hard for a good one with decent picks like we did with vickery but then turn over another 4 or 5  thru later picks and rookies in an attempt to find another one or two. we have done this to a small degree with graham and browne. the question with the 3 we have atm is will any of them make the grade.

even smarter clubs win premierships or is what sydney, collingwood and geelong did wrong and a waste of picks?

 cmon claw, 22 for mumford is a bloody steal he's going to be the best ruckman in the league and would take him ahead of every other ruckman in the afl. Jolly helped the swans and pies to a flag. So too Ottens with geelong. They are not wasted picks

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Re: Our Rucks
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2011, 04:50:34 PM »
Dimma said on the radio pre-Adelaide game that Graham, Derickx and Browne are all fighting for that one ruck spot at this stage with Gus just in front.

So who do think is our No.1 ruckman heading into round 1?

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Re: Our Rucks
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2011, 05:33:07 PM »
I would like to see Derickx get first crack at it

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Re: Our Rucks
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2011, 08:47:59 PM »
Dimma said on the radio pre-Adelaide game that Graham, Derickx and Browne are all fighting for that one ruck spot at this stage with Gus just in front.

So who do think is our No.1 ruckman heading into round 1?

If Gus is "just in front" then things are really crook

Derickx has to get the gig - he's in fornt by a long way IMHO at least he can take a contested mark
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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2011, 09:16:22 PM »
We just need to put some games into Derickx imho. With 5 weeks experience it will be Gus who?

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Re: Our Rucks
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2011, 09:29:08 PM »
I hope derix...Gus is bloody hot and cold...doesnt look to have fiored a shot yet, whereas X was getting better ea game
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Re: Our Rucks
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2011, 09:30:52 PM »
Dimma said on the radio pre-Adelaide game that Graham, Derickx and Browne are all fighting for that one ruck spot at this stage with Gus just in front.

So who do think is our No.1 ruckman heading into round 1?

If Gus is "just in front" then things are really crook

Derickx has to get the gig - he's in fornt by a long way IMHO at least he can take a contested mark

Gotta go with Derrickx, Vickery can help out as well. If we get desperate then Post and afew others can take a turn in there in R1. Gus and Browne havent fired a shot. Very Very Disappointing.

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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2011, 12:05:03 AM »
one of the last pieces of the puzzle
go hardcore for a proven ruckman when the window starts to open.

agree with this
real smart clubs grow their own and stockpile. they then off load the ones they dont want often for very good picks. what have we to lose by taking another couple of ruckmen with a mid range to late nd pick and rookieing one.

sydneys two premiership ruckmen jolly and ball cost them picks 11 14 and 41. and they had them both for 5 yrs respectively. they then just  last yr had to go out and pay picks 22 and 28 for mumford and seaby.

imo go hard for a good one with decent picks like we did with vickery but then turn over another 4 or 5  thru later picks and rookies in an attempt to find another one or two. we have done this to a small degree with graham and browne. the question with the 3 we have atm is will any of them make the grade.

even smarter clubs win premierships or is what sydney, collingwood and geelong did wrong and a waste of picks?

 cmon claw, 22 for mumford is a bloody steal he's going to be the best ruckman in the league and would take him ahead of every other ruckman in the afl. Jolly helped the swans and pies to a flag. So too Ottens with geelong. They are not wasted picks
ah mumford was one i called for us to target. you may be right and for sure some clubs have benefitted greatly by trading into needs. but i reckon growing your own is the way to go.

the troublke is with ruckmen it is so hit and miss.

i have a mental blank with this kids name he went to wce at 29 or so geez i would have been happy to take him around there. sam jacobs anyone  two yrs before adelaide got him i was adamant we should poach him.
seaby could only be an improvement on graham. moran was another who would be an upgrade and yeah he has struggled a little but i reckon he will get there.
will say the one im impressed with is simpson at geelong. the little ive seen the last yr or two i reckon he will be decent.

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Re: Our Rucks
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2011, 12:34:49 AM »
Scott Lycett went at 29

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Re: Our Rucks
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2011, 07:33:19 AM »
I would like to see Derickx get first crack at it

Will be interesting to watch this one, could become an inspired late pick.

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Re: Our Rucks
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2011, 11:00:54 AM »
Has Gus had a decent pre season?
He looks short of a run
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Re: Our Rucks
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2011, 12:34:15 PM »
Gus= Soft

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Re: Our Rucks
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2011, 01:11:31 PM »
Gus and Browne aren't modern day ruckman, sadly I can't see them being on the 2012 lists. They can't cover the ground well and are only apprenitice tap man at best. Both aren't overly good in a pack and aren't dead eye in front of goal.

Derickx had landed himself a gold mine and from what I've seen will be our number one ruckman for the next 5 years.
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Re: Our Rucks
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2011, 01:35:49 PM »
Gus and Browne aren't modern day ruckman, sadly I can't see them being on the 2012 lists. They can't cover the ground well and are only apprenitice tap man at best. Both aren't overly good in a pack and aren't dead eye in front of goal.

Derickx had landed himself a gold mine and from what I've seen will be our number one ruckman for the next 5 years.

Its only a gold mine if he takes his opportunity. Theres been plenty of players over the journey who have never grasped there opportunity. He has to realise this is his chance to set himself up for life. Its his opportunity and its there for the taking. Question is how badly does he want to succeed?

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Re: Our Rucks
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2011, 09:07:27 PM »
Gus and Browne aren't modern day ruckman, sadly I can't see them being on the 2012 lists. They can't cover the ground well and are only apprenitice tap man at best. Both aren't overly good in a pack and aren't dead eye in front of goal.

Derickx had landed himself a gold mine and from what I've seen will be our number one ruckman for the next 5 years.
I agree with Browne. He looks like an 80's plodder too lanky and slow a waste of time IMHO.  I dunno about Graham doesn't he start slow and get better as the year progresses?   
From what I've seen so far I'd go with Derrickx.
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