Collins V Grigg

[tiger till i die]

Question as above ^^

[torch]

Get over it, it is done now.

Collins did agree to it, so much for being loyal?

Craig Cameron and Francis Jackson are questionable!

Hardwick, Grigg can not kick! What happened to the "players who can kick?"

 

[one-eyed]

Player Statistics Comparison
 
  Andrew Collins                                Shaun Grigg

     Midfield                 Position              Midfield
        25                  Career Games            43
      Bendigo                 Origin               Nth Ballarat
November 17, 1988    Date of Birth      April 19, 1988
   21yr 10mth                Age               22yr 5mth
       186cm                 Height                190cm
         78kg                 Weight                85kg
2006 National Draft  Last Drafted In    2006 National Draft 
Round 5, Pick #73  Last Draft Position Round 2, Pick #19 

           25             Career Games              43
           7.9            Kicks Per Game           8.6
           8.6         Handballs Per Game        8.7
         16.6          Disposals Per Game      17.2
           3.8            Marks Per Game          4.0
           0.9            Goals Per Game           0.2
           0.4          Behinds Per Game          0.3
           3.4          Tackles Per Game          2.3
           0.2           Hitouts Per Game          0.2
           0.6         Frees For Per Game         0.5
           1.0      Frees Against Per Game       0.9
 
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=15&pid1=1789&tid2=4&pid2=1737&type=A&fid1=C&fid2=C

[Infamy]

Grigg should turn out better, but that's not the point

[tony_montana]

Grigg faster, stronger, collins smarter and perhaps more polish? Pound for pound pretty even for mine, both middle of the road mid rotation types - if the coaching dpt feel grigg suits their needs more then i'll accept it.

[tiger till i die]

whats the Point ???... Grigg turns out better that is a win for us....Therefore why would richmond get player not as good as the one they swaped?

"Grigg should turn out better, but that's not the point" <- then what would be the point in trading collins for Grigg.. please explain?

[tony_montana]

whats the Point ???... Grigg turns out better that is a win for us....Therefore why would richmond get player not as good as the one they swaped?

"Grigg should turn out better, but that's not the point" <- then what would be the point in trading collins for Grigg.. please explain?

reckon he feels, like a lot of ppl, that it was unecessary to give carlton a fair trade for a player who is out of contract and walked out on them

[tiger till i die]

whats the Point ???... Grigg turns out better that is a win for us....Therefore why would richmond get player not as good as the one they swaped?

"Grigg should turn out better, but that's not the point" <- then what would be the point in trading collins for Grigg.. please explain?

reckon he feels, like a lot of ppl, that it was unecessary to give carlton a fair trade for a player who is out of contract and walked out on them

Ahh kk

[Infamy]

whats the Point ???... Grigg turns out better that is a win for us....Therefore why would richmond get player not as good as the one they swaped?

"Grigg should turn out better, but that's not the point" <- then what would be the point in trading collins for Grigg.. please explain?

We should have been able to get Grigg and keep Collins, therefore it wouldn't matter who ended up better

[Rodgerramjet]

Grigg should turn out better, but that's not the point

But that is the only point Infamy.

Where these players are at "RIGHT NOW" is even stevens, both sides will do alright out of this trade, but to say one player is better than the other is pure folly because it just isn't true. The club did not cave as some are dramatising on this board, some of our supporters are over rating some of our players, which isn't unusual.

[Heart of Darkness]

Grigg should turn out better, but that's not the point

But that is the only point Infamy.

Where these players are at "RIGHT NOW" is even stevens, both sides will do alright out of this trade, but to say one player is better than the other is pure folly because it just isn't true. The club did not cave as some are dramatising on this board, some of our supporters are over rating some of our players, which isn't unusual.

I agree with Rodger. The point is to get better as a football team not to let football politics, bitterness and hatred get in the way of improvement. Could we have handled negotiations better?? I don't know maybe but essentially i think this trade makes us a better team so for me at least it is a good trade.

[Mr Magic]

Grigg

[tiger till i die]

im sure if it was the other way around and Carlton wanted collins cause he wanted to leave they wouldnt give us Griggs they would give us some Hack!!!

If the Tabels were turned would be expect any better? eff carlnts

[Judge Roughneck]

7kgbigger
4 cm taller
many draft picks higher

[tdy]

I'm not sure how exactly we could have ensured we got Grigg, without doing this trade? 

I am assuming he improves our list over Collins.

Which means what?
I read it as meaning Hardwick wants heavier bigger bodied players, where as Wallace wanted outside quick runners.  And he is willing to do 1 for 1 trades of equally ranked players to get this heavier bigger list that can play his style of game.

Its back to the Frawley era.  Hopefully these bigger players will be able to kick (Grigg ain't known for his kicking) unlike in the Frawley era and hopefully we keep to the game plan for more than 5 minutes into the game unlike the Frawley era. 

All in all it seems to be a positive for me, getting a player who is more likely to be able stand up in the tackle and still dish off a pass.  The modern game is almost constant tackle ball, so players like Grigg should have an advantage of players like Collins.