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Offline Stripes

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Rank our forwards
« on: January 25, 2011, 12:31:49 PM »
This part of the ground is a very difficult one to rate in my opinion. With Hardwicks new game plan and the manner in which the game is being played today, the hardest part for mine is coming up with a list of 'forwards' in the first place. Besides a few tall timber the rest of our goals will be generated from midfielders rotating or running back into the forward fifty rather than settled small forwards/crumbers.

So this is my ranking with that in mind -

1. Riewoldt - coleman medalist at 21.
The length of a footy field
2. Griffths - has the height, marking capability, long kicking and pace to be an absolute star. While he only played a handfull of games I am giving him the second ranking based on potential and the clubs analysis alone.
3. King - surprized everyone this year in his role as a defesive forward and showed that he could be dangerous if left free. Has a massive kick for a little fellow.
4. Vickery - has lacked in self belief and size to date but has great skills above his head and bellow his knees especially for his size. I predict he will have a great year in 2011 floating around the forwardline/
5. Post - has a size and skills but lacks in effort and determination. Has the 'little boy lost' look at times but may just need more confidence like many at his age.
6. Miller - unproven at our club but could turn out to be our 2nd forward on experience and effort alone. His age is the biggest deterent to winning games.
7. McDonald - tough character with a nack of finding the stcks but is underdone with his fitness and experience which will see him struggle for many games this year.
8. Taylor - has tremendous skills, additional size and added weight but has a lot to prove to the club, supporters and mostly - himself before he steps up. If he can get his head right he could well become our game breaker in years to come but he may only earn a few games unless he really focuses all his efforts.
9. Nahas - King has taken his place and he has lost his pace and defensive efforts. Players now brush off his tackles and he has lost the fitness edge he had over the other players striving for the same position on the ground.
10. Westoff - shows glimpses of brillance but his size continues to remain of problem. He is a project player but will need to show more this year or could be relegated to the 'could-have-been' pile.

What's your take....


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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2011, 02:06:49 PM »
Where's Morton??

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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2011, 02:36:24 PM »
On form/recent performances it would have to be king.

Most of the others are still running on potential.

Hopefully that will change in the near future.
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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2011, 02:56:24 PM »
Where's Morton??

Morton is a midfielder now which is why I left him out. Like a good percentage of our other midfielders, he will be running into space, crumbing and providing scoring options but he is no longer a leading/stay at home forward thus his exclusion. On previous form you would have to say he is our best forward after Jack I agree.

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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2011, 06:16:36 PM »
Nason should be on the list. Played all last season as a half forward flanker

stuff our forwards are bad (well, young and some are bad). King is currently our 2nd best.

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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2011, 07:37:51 PM »
Where's Morton??

A fair question. Might shift somewhat to the mids but will still kick plenty of goals for us up forward.

Of those listed I would have to say King.

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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2011, 12:27:27 PM »
I would have said Morton too.

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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2011, 08:06:52 PM »
Reiwoldt is number 1 by a long way
Gap

Then

Kingy at 2

Then a big gap to White &/or Nason (they both played as forwards and therefore IMO should be included)

Griffiths gives us great hope ditto Taylor and to a lesser degree Vickery who shows enough but needs to be more aggressive IMHO.

The rest (the young ones) well they've got a long way to go

Staggered you would consider putting Post in your top 5 Stripes. Because of his lack of aggression and attack on the contest he doesn't even make my top 10. Actually I'd throw down back to try ands teach him to be 1/ accountable and 2/ defensive - plays for to loose for my liking
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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2011, 09:22:32 PM »
Staggered you would consider putting Post in your top 5 Stripes. Because of his lack of aggression and attack on the contest he doesn't even make my top 10. Actually I'd throw down back to try ands teach him to be 1/ accountable and 2/ defensive - plays for to loose for my liking

More of an indication of how light on we are with genuine forwards than a true reflection on his proven talent. My ranking of 5 is more to do with his potential than what he has shown to date. I agree that he is desperately in need of a better work ethic, defensive mindset and greater confidence but I don't think the backline is the place to gain these. Our backline appears to have better depth for height while our forwardline still remains light on. I feel a better place for him to learn these attributes remain playing for Coburg.

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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2011, 09:28:38 PM »
quite simply put miller is the next best behind jack based purely on performance. now that is an indictment on list management.

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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 10:03:28 AM »
I would add a couple more...Hicks and Gus.

I thought the 3 odd games Hicks played late last year had him slightly ahead of Nahas, but he needs to be elevated to the senior list.

Gus is an interesting one - with the new sub rule, I think we will find ruckmen resting in the fwd line like the old days.  The teams dont have the luxury of resting a ruckman on the pine anymore and the 3 spots there will be left to the midfielders.  Gus kicked a few last year and can take a mark and kick a goal - look to see him playing up fwd more with someone like a Vickery or a Post pinchhitting in the ruck when Gus is resting.

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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 08:52:08 PM »
this thread is a great reminder as to why we still have a very long way to go before we can challenge for finals.  :-[

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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2011, 10:03:10 PM »
this thread is a great reminder as to why we still have a very long way to go before we can challenge for finals.  :-[

I agree. Once you start to look at specific areas of the ground and our proven talent and depth in positions, the painful truth is hard to ignore.... :'(

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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2011, 10:09:47 PM »
having a laugh. we took vickery at 8 because we desperately needed a quality ruckman. we were going to be patient and develop him.
what has changed  not the rule change surely. we are still in need of a high quality ruckman yet all of a sudden vickery is a forward. its so funny no its mute talk about head in the sand stuff. is no one asking why we took vickery at 8. what all of a sudden has changed  that says oops no hes not a ruckman but a forward.
i know what it is but ferals dont want to hear it.  yep lets play all of post riewoldt griffiths taylor and now vickery as forwards. geez i reckon we have been there done that.

is no one even  going to question this. talk about sheep what dimma and those gods in charge do and say must be good.

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Re: Rank our forwards
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2011, 12:36:59 AM »
is no one asking why we took vickery at 8. what all of a sudden has changed 

The interchange rule.