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Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« on: March 13, 2011, 04:22:31 PM »
Next up is Vickery. Ty is entering his third year of AFL with 23 games under his belt. Hardwick plans to use him mainly up forward this year alongside Jack Riewoldt.

What are your expectations for Vickery in 2011 and what would be a good season for him?



Career so far:

         Games   Kicks   Hballs  Disp.  Marks  Hitouts  Tackles  G.B     1st poss.   Clear.    In50    1%ers
2009       9      2.4      6.3      8.7     2.4      8.8        1.9      5.1
2010     14      2.6      5.5      8.1     1.8      8.7        2.1      3.3         2.3         1.4        1.1      3.6

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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2011, 04:26:06 PM »
to be a good foil for jack. vickery should aim for 1 goal a game average as a minimum = 22 goals for the season. hopefully he can be of assistance in the ruck from time to time. hopefully we can see him be a bit more aggressive and start to throw some of his weight around.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2011, 08:48:34 PM »
to be a good foil for jack. vickery should aim for 1 goal a game average as a minimum = 22 goals for the season. hopefully he can be of assistance in the ruck from time to time. hopefully we can see him be a bit more aggressive and start to throw some of his weight around.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2011, 09:15:02 PM »
to be a good foil for jack. vickery should aim for 1 goal a game average as a minimum = 22 goals for the season. hopefully he can be of assistance in the ruck from time to time. hopefully we can see him be a bit more aggressive and start to throw some of his weight around.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2011, 11:07:20 PM »
All 22 games and 30 big ones.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2011, 11:49:28 PM »
seems the bar ius set very low for kpfs nowdays. i wonder why that is. bloody hell play miller then id expect a goal a game out of him and he would at least provide a big body.
geez most bagged jack in yr 3 and he kicked i think 35 goals yep the bar has been lowered. i suppose we have to accomodate our non performers some how.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2011, 12:30:28 AM »

geez most bagged jack in yr 3
I don't think so.
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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2011, 09:24:54 AM »
Vickery, if he continues to have 2.6 kicks a game, he will finish the year off at Coburg.
8 disposals a game, no wonder we battle to win games :banghead
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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2011, 09:30:43 AM »

and some are hard to please.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2011, 09:32:34 AM »
Vickery, if he continues to have 2.6 kicks a game, he will finish the year off at Coburg.
8 disposals a game, no wonder we battle to win games :banghead
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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2011, 09:57:38 AM »
i want to see us be successful and make finals each year.
Hard decisions need to be made at years end.
We held on to Patto in hope,  If Vickery doesnt improve greatly, gone at end of year
2 kicks a game doesnt cut it with me, sorry

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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2011, 10:57:30 AM »
i want to see us be successful and make finals each year.
Hard decisions need to be made at years end.
We held on to Patto in hope,  If Vickery doesnt improve greatly, gone at end of year
2 kicks a game doesnt cut it with me, sorry

Harsh but true, the kicks are one thing attacking the contest through hard leading, 2nd and 3rd efforts etc are another. He can just get away with a low possie count but needs to do more of the team things.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2011, 11:14:16 AM »
i want to see us be successful and make finals each year.
Hard decisions need to be made at years end.
We held on to Patto in hope,  If Vickery doesnt improve greatly, gone at end of year
2 kicks a game doesnt cut it with me, sorry
Absolute rubbish
You don't cut a Top 10 ruckman selection after 3 years in the system
Even Patto got 5 years at Richmond and 1 at StKilda

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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2011, 12:04:25 PM »
I believe you can only really start to compare young players when they at a sufficent size to compete in the position they will play. In my opinion, this is why KPP need more time because their skills, speed and ability is nullified by opponents with experience and, especially, greater strength and size. Young rucks are at an even greater disadvantage as their role at stoppages is predominately about wrestling and positioning which relies heavily on size and strength. If a young ruckmans role is more ruck rover such as what Kruezer has had the luxury to play, then size becomes less into the equation.

I think it is a good strategy for Vickery to move into the forwardline. Here he can use his height, skills, speeds and ability much more. While he will still be found out against bigger opponents in wrestling duels or even at ground level in congestion, this will assist in his development and also help the team with a bigger target while players such as Griffiths and Post are injuries/learning themselves.

So this is why we give taller players more latitude and time to development than others - its like the GWS boys playing AFL players: it doesn't matter how much skill/talent/ability you have, if you can't physically get your hands on the ball you can't compete.


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Re: Tyrone Vickery - 2011 expectations?
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2011, 12:07:33 PM »
i want to see us be successful and make finals each year.
Hard decisions need to be made at years end.
We held on to Patto in hope,  If Vickery doesnt improve greatly, gone at end of year
2 kicks a game doesnt cut it with me, sorry
Absolute rubbish
You don't cut a Top 10 ruckman selection after 3 years in the system
Even Patto got 5 years at Richmond and 1 at StKilda

Told you all after 1 year he wasnt any good.( patto )
Tell you all something, footy aint basketball, if you cant win a ball in dispute,go and play marbles.

Signs arent good for Vickery