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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2011, 10:11:09 AM »
Cotchin was superb.
Don't get me wrong I get why people love Cotchin but boy do our supporters over rate him on what he has delivered so far
He was AWOL for massive parts of the game tonight, his 3rd quarter was outstanding but he had 1 disposal in the 1st quarter and his disposal efficiency for the whole match was pretty average
Cotch had a very slow start as you said, 1 disposal in the 1st, but from there he was very good. He did make a few errors in the second with his kicking (didn't hit the target but at least the ball rolled out of play and not to the opposition to rebound) his second half was excellent, was in everything, fighting to get the ball forward.
Good summary, he still wasn't superb. It was a good recovery after a slow start, that's all.

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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2011, 01:51:04 PM »
It was nice to see poor old Ratts on the bench in the third quarter with his head hung in utter dismay.

You could tell by that footage that he is under enormous pressure this season.  :lol
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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2011, 03:44:01 PM »
Some of the best player for mine were also some of the most tradionally maligned - Nahas, McGuane and Jackson.

Nahas was excellent all game. I would say he was our best player after Jack on the night. His run and carry through traffic and down the wing were fantastic as was his chases and tackling. I also thought he was one of the few players that never stopped or tired as the game progressed.

McGuane was our rock in defence and spoiled entry after entry. No forward even looked like getting a mark when he was near. Solid.

Jackson was our only midfielder of worth in the early stages of the game and kicked a handy goal. Was very impressed.

I found it hard to find a player that didn't play well during the night. I can name some terrible individual mistakes but there was no real negative standout for mine.

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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2011, 04:12:30 PM »
Jackson was our only midfielder of worth in the early stages of the game and kicked a handy goal. Was very impressed.


What concerns me is his decision making and his attempts at times to be a little "too cute"

To be blunt (some will call it being harsh) he is still making some shocking decisions that result in shocking & costly turnovers. People take aim at others (rightly) but looking at the decision making part of his game there's still a lot of me doing this  :banghead :banghead  when it comes to Dan's turnovers

Based on that for mine he was OK & I didn't have him in my best 5-6 though - simple because the butchering of the ball. It is far too costly IMHO

Ditto Nahas - was pleased with his game up until his selfish brain explosion in the 3rd. Though, I noticed Dimma mentioned in his pressie about Nahas "taking on the game" and making mistake but then call it "having a crack". All well and good I reckon but at some point you have to say "no Robby, do the team things"
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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2011, 04:22:59 PM »
Based on that for mine he was OK & I didn't have him in my best 5-6 though - simple because the butchering of the ball. It is far too costly IMHO
Who were your top 5-6?

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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2011, 04:23:48 PM »
In all fairness WP he learned from it and the next time he did the right thing

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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2011, 04:27:41 PM »
Jackson was our only midfielder of worth in the early stages of the game and kicked a handy goal. Was very impressed.


What concerns me is his decision making and his attempts at times to be a little "too cute"

To be blunt (some will call it being harsh) he is still making some shocking decisions that result in shocking & costly turnovers. People take aim at others (rightly) but looking at the decision making part of his game there's still a lot of me doing this  :banghead :banghead  when it comes to Dan's turnovers

Based on that for mine he was OK & I didn't have him in my best 5-6 though - simple because the butchering of the ball. It is far too costly IMHO

Ditto Nahas - was pleased with his game up until his selfish brain explosion in the 3rd. Though, I noticed Dimma mentioned in his pressie about Nahas "taking on the game" and making mistake but then call it "having a crack". All well and good I reckon but at some point you have to say "no Robby, do the team things"

Besides that mistake he made in the third where he tried to side step and spin and be a hero where he should have just kicked the ball to lids in space I thought he was excellent. When he ran down the wing and past his opponent he covered half the ground and set up a goal as a result so these two cancel each other out for mine. I thought he played one of the best games I have seen him play in well over a year.

I can't recall one poor desposal by Jackson in the game myself but the paper states he had 7 so I must have missed a fair few. He looked like he was our only ball winner at many stages during the game and while he'll never be in our elite future midfield  :pray he gave us strength and experience we were lacking when we were at our lowest point in the game. I thought he played a good game, and like Nahas it was the best I've seen him play for some time.

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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2011, 05:25:41 PM »
Some of the best player for mine were also some of the most tradionally maligned - Nahas, McGuane and Jackson.

Nahas was excellent all game. I would say he was our best player after Jack on the night. His run and carry through traffic and down the wing were fantastic as was his chases and tackling. I also thought he was one of the few players that never stopped or tired as the game progressed.

McGuane was our rock in defence and spoiled entry after entry. No forward even looked like getting a mark when he was near. Solid.

Jackson was our only midfielder of worth in the early stages of the game and kicked a handy goal. Was very impressed.

I found it hard to find a player that didn't play well during the night. I can name some terrible individual mistakes but there was no real negative standout for mine.


I think you can add Matthew White to that list Stripes.Did a fantastic job last night.
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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2011, 06:18:10 PM »
Who were your top 5-6?

Jack
Rance
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White
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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2011, 06:20:01 PM »
Waite got his just reward for kicking McGuane in the nuts.
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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2011, 08:46:33 PM »
Some of the best player for mine were also some of the most tradionally maligned - Nahas, McGuane and Jackson.

Nahas was excellent all game. I would say he was our best player after Jack on the night. His run and carry through traffic and down the wing were fantastic as was his chases and tackling. I also thought he was one of the few players that never stopped or tired as the game progressed.

McGuane was our rock in defence and spoiled entry after entry. No forward even looked like getting a mark when he was near. Solid.

Jackson was our only midfielder of worth in the early stages of the game and kicked a handy goal. Was very impressed.

I found it hard to find a player that didn't play well during the night. I can name some terrible individual mistakes but there was no real negative standout for mine.


I think you can add Matthew White to that list Stripes.Did a fantastic job last night.

Initially I thought he had a quiet game until I heard his role. Did an amazing job shutting down Yarran.  :clapping

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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2011, 08:54:38 PM »
Just watched the game on TV after going last night. Think alot of people on here have been way to harsh on Lids. In fact NFI!!!!
The third quarter was probably the best quarter i have seen us play for years.
Nahas was fantastic! So was Cotch. A really good first up effort from almost all.
Really liked Helbig's game although TV did him no justice.
Conca looked liked he had been playing at this level for years.
Rance fought well and has improved out of site.
One thing i have noticed on here is some people just seem to look for the negatives of our players, lets face it people, the players are going to make mistakes, they and are going to get caught "trying to do to much" but if we don't have these guys breaking the lines and taking them on, then we will never improve!

I can only see one change for next week and that's King in and maybe Edwards out.


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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2011, 09:26:11 AM »

Ditto Nahas - was pleased with his game up until his selfish brain explosion in the 3rd. Though, I noticed Dimma mentioned in his pressie about Nahas "taking on the game" and making mistake but then call it "having a crack". All well and good I reckon but at some point you have to say "no Robby, do the team things"

I think I remember reading somewhere a couple of weeks back that Hardwick had told him to do that this year?  I might be wrong but if it's true then you can't condemn Nahas for playing to instructions.

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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2011, 09:29:25 AM »
Just watched the game on TV after going last night. Think alot of people on here have been way to harsh on Lids. In fact NFI!!!!
The third quarter was probably the best quarter i have seen us play for years.
Nahas was fantastic! So was Cotch. A really good first up effort from almost all.
Really liked Helbig's game although TV did him no justice.
Conca looked liked he had been playing at this level for years.
Rance fought well and has improved out of site.
One thing i have noticed on here is some people just seem to look for the negatives of our players, lets face it people, the players are going to make mistakes, they and are going to get caught "trying to do to much" but if we don't have these guys breaking the lines and taking them on, then we will never improve!

I can only see one change for next week and that's King in and maybe Edwards out.



I agree with you BT but is King out for 1 week or 2?  I would want to drop Edwards as well, just to try and get him focused like he was last year.  His form so far in the pre-season and Thursday night has been poor.

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Re: Positives from last night's game?
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2011, 10:18:16 AM »
Jumping Jack showed he wont just be a flash in the pan. ;D
Conca - Looks like we might have got a gem here.
Nahas must show what he did every week and he may be a chance to stay.
Daniel Jackson - Loved his hardness and attack on the footy (Rubbish free to Judd when Jacko went to him from the bench by the way) nuff said.
Think Rance showed a bit, just gotta improve his awareness but don't think he should be hung drawn and qtrd for 1 incident.
Vickerys getting better.
Cotch is class and is gunna step up every week.
Tell you we really had Carlton on the ropes half way through the last and it was only their experience and our lack of it that got them over the top, reckon we can leap them next year.