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Media articles and Stats: Gutsy Tigers down Roos in thriller
« on: April 24, 2011, 08:11:20 PM »
Gutsy Tigers down Roos in thriller
richmondfc.com.au
7:39 PM Sun 24 Apr, 2011



North Melbourne    5.1   8.6   12.11   14.19  (103)
Richmond              1.3   6.8   10.10   17.10  (112)

GOALS
North Melbourne: Petrie 6, Swallow 2, Hansen, Cunnington, Adams, Wells, Harvey, Tarrant
Richmond: Riewoldt 5, Martin 4, King 3, Cotchin 2, Edwards, White, Miller,

BEST
North Melbourne: Petrie, Swallow, Harvey, Anthony, Adams, Rawlings
Richmond: Martin, Riewoldt, Houli, Cotchin, Nahas, Deledio

INJURIES
North Melbourne: None
Richmond: Jake Batchelor (foot) replaced in the selected side by Shane Tuck

SUBSTITUTES
North Melbourne: Cruize Garlett replaced by Cameron Richardson in the third quarter
Richmond: Tyrone Vickery replaced by Shane Tuck in the third quarter

Reports: Nil

Umpires: Ritchie, Stevic, Meredith

Official crowd: 36,461 at Etihad Stadium

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RICHMOND overran North Melbourne in a thrilling game at Etihad Stadium on Sunday afternoon to notch up its first win of the season by nine points.

North led for most of the day after establishing a 22-point lead by quarter-time, but the Tigers never let the Kangaroos get out of reach at any stage during the game.

The Tigers closed to within 10 points by half-time and, while North had stretched its lead to 13 points at three-quarter time, Richmond played inspired football in the final quarter, no one more so than second-year player Dustin Martin and spearhead Jack Riewoldt.

Martin starred in the midfield and up forward, kicking four goals.

The young Tigers' strength was jaw-dropping, as he regularly outmuscled more experienced and bulkier opponents like Scott Thompson and Michael Firrito.

Critically, Martin won a controversial free kick for a push against Andrew Swallow 20m out from goal with five minutes to go in the game, his subsequent goal putting the Tigers up by five-points.

He then got a short kick forward in heavy traffic a minute later to set up a Jake King goal that put the Tigers 11 points up.

Riewoldt kicked two final quarter goals for the Tigers, helping his team boot seven goals for the term to the Kangaroos’ two.

Riewoldt was outstanding for the Tigers all day, completely outpointing Nathan Grima to finish with five goals for the match.

For North, Drew Petrie shook off his slow start to the season, starring up forward with six goals for the game, including two in the final quarter.

The Kangaroos remain winless and now face a must-win game against Port Adelaide at Etihad Stadium next Saturday. 

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/112332/default.aspx

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Stats: Tigers vs Roos
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2011, 02:04:40 AM »
Team Stats

Disposals        395 - 335
Efficiency%       77 - 70
Kicks              216 - 190
Handballs       179 - 145
Con. Marks       15 - 10
Uncon. Marks    90 - 46
Tackles             67 - 84
Clearances        42 - 44
Clangers           54 - 45
Frees                19 - 27
Hitouts              32 - 36 .......... ( Graham 27, Vickery 4, Tuck 1 // Goldstein 31, Petrie 4, Hansen 1 )
Con. Possies    137 - 157
Uncon.Possies  261 - 174
Inside 50s         55 - 58
Assists              15 - 15

Individual Stats
 
                 D   K  H CM UM SC SCA T CL C FF FA CP UP In50 A Eff

D.Martin     33 26   7 4 2 168 108 2 5 1 4 5 1 1 12 20   2 1   67%
B.Houli       30 15 15 0 0   85   65 0 9 3 1 2 0 0   3 26   2 0   73%
B.Deledio    27 11 16 0 0 100 105 0 3 6 4 1 0 0   8 17   1 0   85%
D.Jackson   26 15 11 0 1   68 100 0 4 3 2 5 1 3   6 21 11 1   65%
R.Nahas      26 15 11 0 0   99  67 2 4 4 0 4 3 2 11 17   5 0   81%
N.Foley       24 14 10 0 1 108  76 0 3 9 5 1 0 0   8 15   6 0   71%
S.Grigg       24 13 11 0 0   72  87 0 5 2 0 2 0 2   7 18   2 0   71%
T.Cotchin    23 14   9 2 1   98  98 0 3 4 8 6 3 1 14 10   4 0   74%
R.Conca      22 11 11 0 0   63  57 0 5 0 2 3 3 1   6 16   3 1   73%
A.Rance      20 12   8 0 0   73  80 1 9 3 1 5 2 3   6 16   0 0   85%
S.Edwards   17  7 10 1 0   63  53 0 4 1 1 1 1 0   3 13   2 2   88%
J.Riewoldt   16  8   8 5 2 136  78 4 1 5 1 2 1 1 16   2   0 2   69%
B.Miller       15  6   9 1 1   66  59 0 7 6 1 2 0 1   4 11   3 0   67%
C.Newman  15 10  5 0 0   92 107 0 4 2 0 1 1 1   5 11   1 1   93%
A.Graham   13   6  7 0 0   79  78 1 4 2 5 4 1 4   4   7   2 0 100%
L.McGuane  12   6  6 0 0   37  54 1 8 0 0 2 0 1   2 10   0 0   67%
D.Grimes    11   5  6 0 0   54  55 2 3 2 1 4 0 3   7   3   0 0   82%
S.Tuck        11   3  8 0 0   54  54 0 1 2 4 1 1 1   6   6   2 0 100%
J.King         10   7  3 3 0   83  59 2 1 2 0 1 0 1   5   6   2 1 100%
B.Nason        8   6  2 0 0   36  36 0 2 4 0 1 0 0   1   7   2 0   63%
T.Vickery      6   1  5 0 0   20  50 0 2 1 2 1 1 1   2   4   2 0   83%
M.White        6   5  1 1 1   52  52 0 3 5 0 0 0 0   1   5   3 0   50%

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/super-scoreboard?match_id=10310504
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Inspired and desperate, Tigers steal show (Age)
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2011, 02:07:32 AM »
Inspired and desperate, Tigers steal show
Greg Baum
The Age
April 25, 2011


RICHMOND             1.3 6.8 10.10 17.10 (112)
NORTH MELBOURNE 5.1 8.6 12.11 14.19 (103)

GOALS
Richmond: Riewoldt 5, Martin 4, King 3, Cotchin 2, Miller, White, Edwards.
North Melbourne: Petrie 6, Swallow 2, Cunnington, Harvey, Wells, Adams, Hansen, Tarrant.

BEST
Richmond: Martin, Cotchin, Riewoldt, Houli, Deledio, Foley, Nahas, King
North Melbourne: Petrie, Swallow, Harvey, Adams, Rawlings.

INJURIES North Melbourne: Harvey (quadricep)
UMPIRES: Stevic, Meredith, Ritchie.
CROWD: 36,461, at Etihad Stadium.

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THIRTY-SEVEN years ago, when the eyes of the football world were last focused exclusively for one day on Richmond and North Melbourne, they were playing off for a premiership. Yesterday, perversely, the stakes were as desperate, if not as high: more than any other clubs in the competition, these two needed to win. This was already round five; even Gold Coast had won a game.

Hitherto, there were excuses. Tigers and Roos had suffered nearly identical thrashings at the hands of rampant Collingwood. Otherwise, the Tigers had played only top four contenders and the Roos had had to travel to Perth twice. But this day, there could be no alibi.

For three quarters, Richmond was the busier team, but North was more efficient, and that looked likely to be enough to gain it victory. By the indicators most prized by coaches - contested possession, clearances, inside 50s - North edged or at least squared this game. But in the last quarter, the Tigers overran North with their admixture of desperation and inspiration, kicking seven goals to two, and no one could dispute the result.

Aptly, Richmond's first six final-term goals were kicked by Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt and Dustin Martin, two each, in alternating pattern. Cotchin blazed the way, marking with one hand at half-forward, stumbling under the force of his own momentum, as if drunk, then steadying to kick truly.

Riewoldt's were from signature soaring marks, each converted with a nonchalance that cousin Nick must envy. Riewoldt kicked five to counterbalance Drew Petrie's opportunist six at the other end for North. Riewoldt, it ought to be noted, also had eight handpasses yesterday, at least three leading to goals, to leave far behind the early season critique that he was self-centred. Then came Martin. After a bit of artful dodging on the boundary line, Robin Nahas dribbled the ball into the goal square, where Martin, with breathtaking imagination, stretched out his right foot to goal on the volley. Later, from a free kick, Martin would kick the goal that put the Tigers in front for good. The free was doubtful, but the identity of the kicker was poetically just.

Martin plays with a knowing and physical presence far beyond his 19 years. If he was a Pakistani cricketer, there would be questions about his birth certificate. He was best-on-ground yesterday. Richmond coach Damian Hardwick said he thought the substitute rule worked to the advantage of premium ball-winners. Martin already is one. As it pleases itself, North will wonder how it lost. It controlled the first third of this match. The Roos figured to put the ball repeatedly to the hot spot at the top of the goal square; Petrie and Lachie Hansen marauded against Luke McGuane and Alex Rance. Petrie demonstrated genius when he gathered the ball at the back of a pack, and with a banana kick off one step, while tumbling backwards, goaled. Riewoldt kept the Tigers in the contest, but Martin, when isolated on the forward line, was the Tigers' only other threat.

The Roos continued to barge down the middle. But the Tigers worked their way into the game with rapid switches across the half-back line and lightning raids down each flank. The class of Martin, Cotchin and Brett Deledio made it work, but the awareness and discipline of rejects Bachar Houli and Shaun Grigg was telling, too. Shane Tuck, called into the game late in the third quarter for his first appearance this year, had 12 touches, enough to tip the balance.

Andrew Swallow and Brent Harvey laboured to the point of exhaustion to restore the Roos' authority, but Daniel Wells again failed to force his way into the contest. In the last quarter, the tide ran the Tigers' way. Odd instances of lack of composure threatened to undo them, but mostly, they held their nerve. Tiger fans typically sing their club song with gusto, but yesterday added a heartfelt ''Richmond, Richmond'' chant at match's end. It was one win, in a maiden, but the fact of victory makes all things possible. North, conversely, has nothing to show for the season. ''We clearly have to look at our side and we have got to tweak a few things up,'' said coach Brad Scott. ''There are some things that are really working for us but it is not getting us over the lines.''

HE'S BACK

For many Tiger fans, Shane Tuck had been a surprising omission until yesterday, with football manager Craig Cameron explaining that the game was at its quickest in the early rounds and it was decided to hold back the big-bodied Tuck until yesterday, when he came on as a substitute.

ON AIR

An hour before the opening bounce, veteran Kangaroos midfielder Brady Rawlings conducted an interview with 3AW from the dressing room. Before he signed off, Rawlings said the Roos needed to improve ''across the board''. Unfortunately for the Roos, that didn't quite prove to be the case.

FRONT AND CENTRE

While Brett Deledio initially had the role at half-back of curbing Daniel Wells, would Richmond have been better served by starting him in the middle? The Tigers were under the pump early and could have used the skills of their best ball-carrier in the engine room. Deledio didn't have his first kick until midway through the first quarter. He found himself at centre bounces in the final term.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/inspired-and-desperate-tigers-steal-show-20110424-1dt18.html#ixzz1KSPfTvY3

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Quarter by quarter (Age)
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2011, 02:09:28 AM »
Quarter by quarter
The Age
April 25, 2011


FIRST QUARTER

 The winless Kangaroos began with great energy. Key forward Drew Petrie set the tone, kicking two of the Roos' opening three goals. A Jack Riewoldt goal gave the Tigers' fans something to cheer about, but Richmond's shoddy use of the ball hurt. It had a 12-11 advantage in inside 50s but only 38 per cent of kicks through the arc were effective. The Tigers steadied but a late goal by Ben Cunnington was another blow. North by 22 points

SECOND QUARTER

An entertaining term with both sides enjoying periods of dominance. Riewoldt was superb. Two handballs led to goals by Jake King and Shane Edwards, and he added two majors of his own, the second complete with a hanger over Scott Thompson. At the other end, Petrie was instrumental in the Roos protecting their lead. Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin were brilliant in the midfield, while Brent Harvey worked himself into the contest. North by 10

THIRD QUARTER

The Tigers kicked the first two goals of the quarter to lead for the first time. But the lead lasted less than a minute as the sides continued to trade goals. Daniel Wells, practically unseen until this point, provided a brilliant long goal while veteran Tiger Brad Miller emerged as a key target up forward. Both sides called on their subs, with Tiger Shane Tuck replacing Tyrone Vickery and Cam Richardson replacing Cruize Garlett for the Roos. North by 13

FOURTH QUARTER

Petrie converted from a free kick to restore the Roos' two-goal lead. Richmond hit back through Riewoldt and continued to gather momentum, regaining the lead when Cotchin kicked his second of the term. Riewoldt goaled after a tough pack mark to stretch the lead. Andrew Swallow found Petrie for a mark and goal, but again the Tigers responded, first through a controversial free kick and goal to Martin and then when King ran into an open goal. Richmond by 9

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Richmond break Victorian duck with win against North Melbourne
Mark Stevens
Herald Sun
April 24, 2011 9:28PM


RICHMOND has celebrated its first win against a Victorian team since 2009, stunning North Melbourne with a seven-goal final term at Etihad Stadium.

The nine-point victory underlined the Tigers' potential as a finals challenger, perhaps as early as this year, and coach Damien Hardwick refused to put limits on his young team.

"Every club wants to make the eight and we're no different," he said after the win.

Although Hardwick did his best to keep the lid on expectations, he said excitement was building within the club.

"For a young playing group, it's great to get a result," he said. "We've obviously struggled over the course of the past two to three seasons. To get the young boys singing that song, there's no better theme song I don't think."

The Tigers won six matches last season, all against interstate sides in the second half of the season.

With inspired performances from high draft picks Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt and rapid improvement in others, last night's victory was the most significant in Hardwick's 27-game career as Tigers coach.

Considering their tough draw in the first month, the Tigers' hopes of mounting a challenge for lower reaches of the eight are alive with a win and a draw in the bag.

But Hardwick was quick to deliver a reality check before Saturday night's clash with the Brisbane Lions at the MCG.

"All we need to do, and we spoke about it tonight, is worry about the process," Hardwick said. "I know it's a boring answer, but it's the process that gets us there. If we tick a lot of those boxes, the result looks after itself.

"There's still some areas to work on. We gave away far too many easy goals ... mental errors ... we've still got a long way to go.

"We're excited with where we're at, but we realise for us to be competitive against the top four sides we're a hell of a way of it at this stage."

After trailing by as much as 23 points in the second term, Martin put the Tigers in front after winning a free kick 25m out.

Jake King gleefully iced the contest by running on to a loose ball 30 seconds later and driving through a goal from close range.

North Melbourne attacked for most of the final four minutes, but Richmond's defence held firm.

Hardwick was pleased with his team's intensity around the contests, but also his players' ability to run and spread when it counted most in the final term.

"It resulted in the seven goals, which is a good result given the last quarter has been one of our worst in the competition," Hardwick said.

The Tigers coach said they had shown resolve in the opening four weeks.

He said the Tigers and Kangaroos would be "fighting out where they need to be" in the eight in three to four years.


Tiger fans applaud their team after the win against North Melbourne Picture: Colleen Petch Source: Herald Sun
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-break-victorian-duck-with-win-against-north-melbourne/story-e6frf9jf-1226044193581

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Richmond hold off Kangaroos in Etihad thriller (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 02:14:34 AM »
Richmond hold off Kangaroos in Etihad thriller
Michael Horan
Herald Sun
April 25, 2011


ODD as it sounds, for the greater part of the new AFL season, Richmond has had pretty good losing form.

In round one, the Tigers led Carlton by 14 points at the final change, but lost by 20. A week later, they fought valiantly - without star forward Jack Riewoldt - to draw with St Kilda.

A stinker in the rain against Hawthorn followed but then, even in the face of a flogging against reigning premier Collingwood last week, there was a sparkling third term when the Tigers kicked five unanswered goals that gave us a glimpse of better future for Richmond.

So it was that when the Roos danced out to an early four-goal lead, there was the feeling the youthful Tigers would have a dip, and if they stopped butchering the ball for long enough they might give North a run for its money.

The Tigers did better than that. They kept coming all day long and, in the end, simply ran the Kangas down.

Just seconds into the second term, a rushed behind put North Melbourne 23 points up and for the next hour or so, Richmond tried valiantly to wipe out its deficit - but each time the Roos found answers.

At one end, the remarkable Jack Riewold was inspirational and, by day's end, he had bagged 5.2 and given three more goals away through second efforts and deft handballs.

At the other end, the mercurial Drew Petrie loomed large all game and finished with six goals straight. For so long he threatened to be the reason Richmond would again walk away with nothing more than creditable losing form.

But, as so often happens, the trend that threatened to cruel the result for one side became the reason the other lost.

The Roos' greater efficiency in front of goal was the reason it led at every change - but, in the end, it was Richmond's seven straight goals to the Roos' 2.8 that proved fatal.

In fairness to Richmond, much of that was due to the Tigers' willingness to run hard and pressure their opponents to the extent where, 10 minutes from the end, they clearly looked the fresher and most likely to win.

A career-best 33 possessions by Dustin Martin and the collective work rate and influence of Brett Deledio, Trent Cotchin, Robin Nahas, Bachar Houli, Shaun Grigg - and of course Jack - were the catalysts for the Tigers' first taste of victory this year.

The Roos didn't die easily. After the Tigers snatched the lead for the first time through back-to-back goals from Matt White and Jake King just five minutes into the third quarter, the Kangas twice got back out to a double-figure lead and, 25 minutes into the final term, were still a point in front.

But save for a 14-possession final term from Roo Andrew Swallow, it was Richmond that finished stronger, harder - and luckier.

To the chagrin of the blue and white faithful it was an appaling decision to pay a free kick for a push in the back to Martin that saw the Tigers regain the lead in the 26th minute. And when Jake King burst into an open goal two minutes later, there was no way back for the ragged Roos.

And just like that the Tigers have six premiership points to North's none - and at last, some winning form.

Michael Horan's best:

RICHMOND: Martin, Deledio, Riewoldt, Cotchin, Houli, Nahas, Grigg.

NORTH MELBOURNE: Swallow, Petrie, Harvey, Rawlings, Anthony, Wells.

Matt Windley's four points

Good kicking is good football. Richmond stormed home with seven goals straight in the last quarter while North Melbourne couldn't buy a goal, kicking 2.8.

Lindsay Thomas has now notched 11 behinds in a row. His last two scoring shots against Collingwood in Round 2 were points, he kicked six behinds last week and then three yesterday. He reached double figures with a snap that hit the post early in the last quarter.

Jack Riewoldt had eight possessions in the second quarter and was involved in seven scoring plays - the last of which came after his latest in a growing array of screaming marks.

Drew Petrie has played 11 games against Richmond and scored goals in only two of them. He kicked six, matching his half dozen against the Tigers in Round 14, 2007.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/kangaroos-and-richmond-name-substitutes/story-e6frf9jf-1226044100144

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Re: Stats: Tigers vs Roos
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 10:21:32 AM »

A.Graham   13   6  7 0 0   79  78 1 4 2 5 4 1 4   4   7   2 0 100%


Just proves we have a long way to go in what is deemed "efficient".

Whoever is keeping records of "efficiency" must have been on a smoko break when Graham was in the clear and kicked a mongrel grubber to Nason at a CRUCIAL point in the match. A half decent kick and Nason was lining up inside 50. Instead he was bombing to the square under pressure on his left.

Was a terrible piece of play and 100% NOT efficient.

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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2011, 01:43:38 PM »

A.Graham   13   6  7 0 0   79  78 1 4 2 5 4 1 4   4   7   2 0 100%


Just proves we have a long way to go in what is deemed "efficient".

Whoever is keeping records of "efficiency" must have been on a smoko break when Graham was in the clear and kicked a mongrel grubber to Nason at a CRUCIAL point in the match. A half decent kick and Nason was lining up inside 50. Instead he was bombing to the square under pressure on his left.

Was a terrible piece of play and 100% NOT efficient.
True it should be classed as an unforced error but as the ball still made to Nason even as a grubber so I believe the stats folk still count it as a kick that reached its target.
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Re: Stats: Tigers vs Roos
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2011, 08:04:55 PM »

A.Graham   13   6  7 0 0   79  78 1 4 2 5 4 1 4   4   7   2 0 100%


Just proves we have a long way to go in what is deemed "efficient".

Whoever is keeping records of "efficiency" must have been on a smoko break when Graham was in the clear and kicked a mongrel grubber to Nason at a CRUCIAL point in the match. A half decent kick and Nason was lining up inside 50. Instead he was bombing to the square under pressure on his left.

Was a terrible piece of play and 100% NOT efficient.

And just as damning are his marking stats.  Spectacular for a ruckman on a dry track...........NOT!!!!

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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2011, 09:10:56 PM »

A.Graham   13   6  7 0 0   79  78 1 4 2 5 4 1 4   4   7   2 0 100%


Just proves we have a long way to go in what is deemed "efficient".

Whoever is keeping records of "efficiency" must have been on a smoko break when Graham was in the clear and kicked a mongrel grubber to Nason at a CRUCIAL point in the match. A half decent kick and Nason was lining up inside 50. Instead he was bombing to the square under pressure on his left.

Was a terrible piece of play and 100% NOT efficient.

Once again it is effectiveness not efficiency.

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Re: Stats: Tigers vs Roos
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 10:20:42 PM »

Once again it is effectiveness not efficiency.

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Does it matter in this instance?

Was it an effective disposal?
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Re: Media articles and Stats: Gutsy Tigers down Roos in thriller
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Re: Stats: Tigers vs Roos
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2011, 10:41:18 AM »

A.Graham   13   6  7 0 0   79  78 1 4 2 5 4 1 4   4   7   2 0 100%


Just proves we have a long way to go in what is deemed "efficient".

Whoever is keeping records of "efficiency" must have been on a smoko break when Graham was in the clear and kicked a mongrel grubber to Nason at a CRUCIAL point in the match. A half decent kick and Nason was lining up inside 50. Instead he was bombing to the square under pressure on his left.

Was a terrible piece of play and 100% NOT efficient.

And just as damning are his marking stats.  Spectacular for a ruckman on a dry track...........NOT!!!!

now now smokey - I saw him take a big strong grab on saturday night, first of his career - hes coming along nicely  :yep

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Re: Stats: Tigers vs Roos
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2011, 12:42:04 PM »

A.Graham   13   6  7 0 0   79  78 1 4 2 5 4 1 4   4   7   2 0 100%


Just proves we have a long way to go in what is deemed "efficient".

Whoever is keeping records of "efficiency" must have been on a smoko break when Graham was in the clear and kicked a mongrel grubber to Nason at a CRUCIAL point in the match. A half decent kick and Nason was lining up inside 50. Instead he was bombing to the square under pressure on his left.

Was a terrible piece of play and 100% NOT efficient.

And just as damning are his marking stats.  Spectacular for a ruckman on a dry track...........NOT!!!!

now now smokey - I saw him take a big strong grab on saturday night, first of his career - hes coming along nicely  :yep

Not according to those stats TM.  I didn't see the game so can't argue it - was just going by the game stats.   ???

I must edit this post TM.  The stats above have been entered inaccurately - they show him having no contested or not uncontested marks but going back to the source these figures should be for goals and behinds.  His marking stats are 1 contested and 4 uncontested so I stand corrected.

Still doesn't change my opinion of him though - he is a bigger pea-heart than Ottens.
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