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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2011, 11:51:06 AM »
I guess it depends on what kind of racism you are refering to. What is the intent? I've never used a racist term in anger or in a abusive way. I'll joke about racial stereotypes, but its never a vindictive thing. I find racist, homophobic and bigoted jokes funny but I'll even laugh about jokes about pedophilia & rape (watch Jimmy Carr's DVDs sometime :lol), so not sure if being able to laugh at those jokes makes me in anyway racist, or involved in racial abuse.
Actually the one exception to that is standard banter between mates, when having a laugh with the boys there is no limit as long as its jovial and without any malice then it's fair game.
Isn't that part of the issue Infamy? Some people will argue that it doesn't matter if it is vindictive or abusive they are still deemed (wrongly IMHO) as racist comments. I have friends who are indigenous and to be honest if some people heard the way we sometimes speak to one another I'd hung from the highest tree and tortured, the fact that my mate gives better than me seems to be irrelevant I am the only one who gets frowned upon  ;D
I don't really care about the overly PC crowd who are trying to stop people from using colour as an adjective but I think a pretty clear line can be drawn regarding the origins of this debate. If you are using the colour of someone's skin, or any other race based stereotype as part of a sledge or insult then that is not on. If you don't know the person you are speaking to, then there is no place for it either, so any of the muppets out in the crowd need to get rid of it from their lexicon.

I remember a (what I thought was) funny incident where I was speaking with a group of friends and someone pointed out a Greek girl and said look at that stupid haircut (it was one of those half black half peroxide jobs like a block of top deck). One of the girls in the crowd accused the person who said it of being racist by saying she was Greek. That is stupid, she wasn't saying all Greeks have crap haircuts, she was just pointing out that the girl was Greek (she may not have been but she had a monobrow so there's a fair chance ;) ). Those accusations of racism are just over the top, but I think when it comes to muppets yelling out at the football, it's pretty straight forward... zero tolerance.

Racism is Racism. No excuses!
Can you please explain in more detail what you are referring to here?
What comments of mine in particular do you consider is making an exception to racism?

Remember, using the word black does not make you racist, it is actually an adjective used for describing things you know.

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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2011, 12:16:51 PM »
If i don't hire somebody because they're Greek then that's racism.

If i call them a Greek dog,it's not.

LOL-Wankas!

I agree with Brackets. Also wogs can call other wogs wogs because thats allowed and it isnt racism,but there seems to be some sort of move to make all comments seem 'racist' thats why I said before "Racism is Racism - No excuses!" because either we agree with Brackets which means that most abuse is not racist or we make everything out to be racist which is wrong. I dont care either way, Im proud to be a wog.

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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2011, 12:18:48 PM »
... Im proud to be a wog.

Watch you mouth. Damn racist. 

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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2011, 12:32:03 PM »


Black Power !




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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2011, 12:39:25 PM »
White Power  ;D go to the footy l will say what l like, laws are for fools  ;D

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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2011, 12:44:25 PM »
I agree with Brackets. Also wogs can call other wogs wogs because thats allowed and it isnt racism,but there seems to be some sort of move to make all comments seem 'racist' thats why I said before "Racism is Racism - No excuses!" because either we agree with Brackets which means that most abuse is not racist or we make everything out to be racist which is wrong. I dont care either way, Im proud to be a wog.

Without directly answering my question Flags I think you've answered it  ;D
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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2011, 02:37:48 PM »
laws are for fools  ;D

Thanks Charlie Sheen. ;D

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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #52 on: June 08, 2011, 03:10:18 PM »
I agree with Brackets. Also wogs can call other wogs wogs because thats allowed and it isnt racism,but there seems to be some sort of move to make all comments seem 'racist' thats why I said before "Racism is Racism - No excuses!" because either we agree with Brackets which means that most abuse is not racist or we make everything out to be racist which is wrong. I dont care either way, Im proud to be a wog.

Without directly answering my question Flags I think you've answered it  ;D

I do my best  ;D

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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #53 on: June 08, 2011, 03:19:06 PM »
White Power  ;D go to the footy l will say what l like, laws are for fools  ;D

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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2011, 04:18:44 PM »
I agree with Brackets. Also wogs can call other wogs wogs because thats allowed and it isnt racism,but there seems to be some sort of move to make all comments seem 'racist' thats why I said before "Racism is Racism - No excuses!" because either we agree with Brackets which means that most abuse is not racist or we make everything out to be racist which is wrong. I dont care either way, Im proud to be a wog.

Without directly answering my question Flags I think you've answered it  ;D

I do my best  ;D

Thanks appreciate although I am still very confused and not sure if I am racist or just a silly old bug-ger  :P
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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2011, 05:24:12 PM »
I agree with Brackets. Also wogs can call other wogs wogs because thats allowed and it isnt racism,but there seems to be some sort of move to make all comments seem 'racist' thats why I said before "Racism is Racism - No excuses!" because either we agree with Brackets which means that most abuse is not racist or we make everything out to be racist which is wrong. I dont care either way, Im proud to be a wog.

Without directly answering my question Flags I think you've answered it  ;D

I do my best  ;D

Thanks appreciate although I am still very confused and not sure if I am racist or just a silly old bug-ger  :P

Sorry WP, your comments offend me because you are perpetuating the stereotype that old buggers are silly.

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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #56 on: June 08, 2011, 05:30:40 PM »
My thoughts on racism are all based 'inward'.  By that, I mean racism is a state or attitude is based on the intent/words/actions of the person being accused.  I don't subscribe to the political correctness of language, nor the branding of ethnicity based on the actions of an individual.  I have no racist thought in my mind and take/treat every individual I meet on the merits of their 'person'.  I abhor true racism.  Having said that, another poster has already mentioned that generational differences can play a part and I agree with that.  My parents are Australian-born, level headed, reasonable, generous and sympathetic white people but often fall into the 'trap' of classing aboriginal people as lazy with a tendency to be unemployed and drink to uncontrollable excess.  I often cringe when they pass a simple (throwaway) comment because I know any debate with them would fall on deaf ears - it's what they grew up believing and therefore is.  They would agree with me that these attributes can apply just as easily to any member of our community but it won't stop them thinking that about aboriginal people in general.  Same as never forgiving Japanese people for wartime atrocities, despite no modern day Japanese person having any culpability for that.  My parents generation was from a time more simplistic, yet more blinkered to differences in race.  I mention this to help explain my position - I don't care as much about what is said or written (as long as it remains within the boundaries of acceptable social conventions), nearly as much as the value I place on actions to each other - that's where you will find out if a person is really racist or not.

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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #58 on: June 08, 2011, 06:03:35 PM »
it explains a  lot.

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Re: Behaviour at the Footy
« Reply #59 on: June 08, 2011, 06:09:06 PM »
I agree with Brackets. Also wogs can call other wogs wogs because thats allowed and it isnt racism,but there seems to be some sort of move to make all comments seem 'racist' thats why I said before "Racism is Racism - No excuses!" because either we agree with Brackets which means that most abuse is not racist or we make everything out to be racist which is wrong. I dont care either way, Im proud to be a wog.

Without directly answering my question Flags I think you've answered it  ;D

I do my best  ;D

Thanks appreciate although I am still very confused and not sure if I am racist or just a silly old bug-ger  :P

Sorry WP, your comments offend me because you are perpetuating the stereotype that old buggers are silly.

Well it appears settled then willy, it seems I am both  :'( :'(

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