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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2011, 06:32:05 PM »
Financially this year what are people expecting profit wise not including the funds from the fund.

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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2011, 06:42:21 PM »
win some game would help

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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2011, 07:17:07 PM »
Benny had better brace himself for huge drop off in membership next year, people cant continue in tough times to fork out hard earned to watch this tripe!!!

The only way this will change is if they do some amazing things off field over the summer, by this I mean Scully, O'Meara, a quality ruck and a quality defender as well as some changes to the coaching structure!!!

Time will tell but I do fear the drop off will be massive if we continue tracking the graph we are tracking at the minute

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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2011, 07:24:27 PM »
just watched the last quarter of the kangas and Dogs.
Kangas have a crack.
Thats all I ask of the RFC , have a crack
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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2011, 07:38:08 PM »
just watched the last quarter off the kangas and Dogs.
Kangas have a crack.
Thats all I ask of the RFC , have a crack

you know what Jack thats probably your best post in months

This year and last was about having a crack. 1 or 2 tackles in a game is not having a crack.

The message is not getting through because players need to respect the coach not treat him like their good buddy
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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2011, 07:44:37 PM »
respect is not earned solely from being "hard" daniel.

do you respect your mates?

do you repect people you deem to an hole because of the way they treat people?

i dont have a problem with hardwick getting on well with his players as long as he lays down the law when needed...and doesnt do it the public domain.
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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2011, 07:50:59 PM »
respect is not earned solely from being "hard" daniel.

do you respect your mates?

do you repect people you deem to an behindhole because of the way they treat people?

i dont have a problem with hardwick getting on well with his players as long as he lays down the law when needed...and doesnt do it the public domain.


well thats where you and i differ.

the vision of Dimma stuffing around at training reminded me of spud and i hated it, but hey thats my opinion.

Laying down the law well IMO i have seen anything but that. How can you possibly explain the ins and outs the last 8 weeks. Seriously!!

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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2011, 07:55:03 PM »
i actually fully understand what you are saying about spud as i too thought that was huge problem of his.
I just dont think hardwick is the same sort of personality as spud though.

now when you say that's where we differ are you talking about earning respect?

what is that makes you respect other people?
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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2011, 08:07:10 PM »
i actually fully understand what you are saying about spud as i too thought that was huge problem of his.
I just dont think hardwick is the same sort of personality as spud though.

now when you say that's where we differ are you talking about earning respect?

what is that makes you respect other people?

we are talking about players not playing to the demands of the coach, hence they must not respect him or his values.

Thats unless it was Dimma who instructed that pathetic 3rd quarter

Dimma said from day one if you cant kick you dont get a game, well hello that hasn't happened. defensive pressure, not much change there. Jackson big tough guy 2 tackles.

I think this club needs a hardened coach not a guy next door type. We are not your normal footy club we are the RFC and we have been through 30 years of rubbish.

All i ask of Dimma is he sticks to the comments he made when he started and i would like him to get the players to earn a spot in the 22 not carry on like its their right to be there.

I would send Jack R to Coburg for a month as a start
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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2011, 08:16:09 PM »
didnt see one shepherd yesterday. :banghead
seen plenty tonight by the Kangas though

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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2011, 08:22:30 PM »

we are talking about players not playing to the demands of the coach, hence they must not respect him or his values.



while that is possible, it doesnt mean it is true. if you know the trick to always getting the best out players then there's a lot of sporting clubs in the world that would love to know the secret. poo even racehorses loose form. it's not like we have been playing this way all along

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I think this club needs a hardened coach not a guy next door type.
i can tell you from experience it is possible for coaches to be both.

It is probably those that can do this that make the best coaches



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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2011, 01:33:18 AM »
Whatever Benny would have said we were nnot going to be happy after yesterday. Emotions are too raw still.
From
the team
the coach
The sellout of home games
the gamestyle
giving up a six goal lead
the quality of the list
Dimma's binning of matches
Run of goals opposition kicks against us

I think Benny needs to understand the honeymoon is over and the fans who have so thoughtfully dutifully lovingly and caringly stuck with the club donated to the club invested in the club loved the club sacrificed for the club made time for the club sooner or later will abandon the club due to its lack of success and its inability to rise to anything better than mediocre.

The last three weeks have destroyed all the good will between club and supporter. The club now as a public relations enterprise with its fans is where it was a few years back.

Somehow the club needs to emerge from the rubble dust itself off and make all the right moves over the next few years otherwise there will be nothing left to box on about as the fans patience is wearing as thin as the atmosphere at 40000 feet.





as people know im not one to defend our club or our players i have and will continue to call a spade a spade. but sheesh people need to realise the honeymoon has just started.

1 the team -  clearly bottom 4. lacks experience quality size structure and enough up to standard players aged 22 - 30.
2 the coach - in just his second yr working with one of the worst and most inexperienced lists in the comp having just cleaned out half of it.
3 the sellout of home games - simply put while a bottom dweller a marvelous idea. killing debt and putting more resources into recruitment etc is the most important thing going on at the club.
4 the game style - will always suffer because of the above 1   team.
5 giving up a 6 goal lead - sheesh we kicked with a gale in the first q did people not think gc would kick their share when it was their turn.unbelievable.
6 the quality of the list - bloody hell everyone knows its crap yet expect to win games. unrealistic expectations is the problem.
7  dimmas binning of matches. said publicly but do people really think there was no review done by the club.
8 last but not least run of goals opposition kicks against us.probably related to 1 2 4 and 6 is anyone really surprised that this happens with the teams we currently put out on the park.

somehow the club needs to ignore the ill informed musings and rants of its deluded reactionary  feral supporters stick to its processes recruit well pay of its debt resource critical depts etc nothing more or less.

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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2011, 02:55:33 AM »
Players to blame, says former Tiger
Jesse Hogan
July 18, 2011


RETIRED Richmond forward Nathan Brown says his former club's failure to beat the league's bottom two teams this season is the fault of the players, not the administrators who shifted those home matches interstate.

As Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale staunchly defended the deals to sell two home matches — one to Darwin, one to Cairns — Brown labelled the loss on Saturday to Gold Coast in north Queensland "deplorable".

"The players let the club down," Gale told The Sunday Footy Show. "The club sells the game because the club makes $1 million to get even, to spend more money on the football department like Collingwood and Hawthorn do, and try to get some more people in recruiting and some more people to the club, like a ruckman."

Brown quarantined the Tigers' coach, Damien Hardwick, from blame after Saturday's loss to the Suns and the round-10 loss to Port Adelaide.

"People are starting to talk about his coaching. It's not his coaching, [it's] the players," Brown said.

Former Collingwood coach Tony Shaw similarly believed it was a "total cop-out" for anybody to suggest the Richmond board and management were liable for the losses that have all but extinguished the club's hopes of reach the finals.

"This is a player-based issue, not coach or administration," he said.

Shaw urged the club to be "brutal" when reviewing its list at the end of the season and cut at least eight players.

Gale yesterday conceded shifting the matches from Victoria, where they would have produced a negligible financial return, could effectively have cost it "four or eight points" but gave the theory short shrift in defending the decision.

"To simply focus on the selling of the game as the basis of that result is an excuse, a cop-out, and we won't accept it as a footy club," Gale told 3AW.

"We'll get to the finals when we get there on merit. Yeah, we may have picked up four or eight points [by playing at home], who knows? It's probably a bit of an insult to the opposition we played.

"We've taken too many short-term decisions as a footy club. We're [now] about taking a long-term view of building financial strength and competitiveness . . . it takes longer than five minutes."

Gale said truly competing with the league's best clubs required a significant increase in its football-department spending.

He believes the multimillion-dollar gap between it and elite clubs such as Collingwood "has a bearing on your performances as a football club — and it's happening now".

He urged members to consider the club's view that decisions such as selling matches, to help eradicate debt, would ultimately benefit the club.

"The passion of our members has sustained us through some lean times in recent years. I felt the wrath of that [on Saturday], I was heckled and confronted at times. That goes with the territory," he said.

"I can understand the disappointment and frustration of a lot of our supporters but we are simply not going to accept short-term fixes.

"It's happened too often in the past. Unfortunately there's going to be a bit more pain but I'm confident we're on the right trajectory."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/players-to-blame-says-former-tiger-20110717-1hka7.html#ixzz1SNm3yDpd

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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2011, 08:38:54 AM »
Financially this year what are people expecting profit wise not including the funds from the fund.

Are you just talking soley profit Flagman or are you interested in the Balance Sheet as well eg the debt?

Remembering they are 2 different beasts, interest on the debt affects profit but the debt reduction is tied to a generation of cash = totally seperate to profit  ;D
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Re: Benny Gale on 3aw @ 1pm
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2011, 08:41:53 AM »
You can't argue with his long term view or revenue raising rationale, I just wish we we're forced into a position where we had to disadvantage our chances on the field. I guess, to be a contender, it shouldn't matter where we play and under what conditions but when we are struggling to be there abouts it does. I just hope the monetary rewards and subsequent investment into the football department makes a difference so we don't have to go through these types of depressing periods any longer.  :pray