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Offline The Big Richo

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« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2011, 04:15:59 PM »
On a serious note, this could be bad news for Hardwick.

Cameron is well known to be a strong Bailey fan and will want to give him a 5 year contract.
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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Re: BAILEY SACKED
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2011, 05:30:56 PM »
On a serious note, this could be bad news for Hardwick.

Cameron is well known to be a strong Bailey fan and will want to give him a 5 year contract.

That would be the end of us.
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« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2011, 06:00:29 PM »
Bailey quoted on news.com.au as saying he coached for draft picks, aka, tanking.  Sorry can't copy the link.

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« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2011, 06:12:50 PM »
Bailey quoted on news.com.au as saying he coached for draft picks, aka, tanking.  Sorry can't copy the link.

yep just seen that on my local 6 o'clock news.

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« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2011, 06:35:03 PM »
"I had no hesitation at all in the first two years of ensuring this club was well placed for draft picks," Bailey said.

"I have no hesitation in what we've done. I think what we've done is the right thing by the club and if it cost me my job so be it. But the club is always bigger than the individual."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/119906/default.aspx

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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2011, 06:37:13 PM »
Fair bit of hysteria in this since he said it I reckon.

It's no secret coaches manipulate their sides to try and get picks, but until a player comes out and says we didn't try to win then it is a non issue.
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2011, 07:20:02 PM »
but has he taken his eye off the ball?

what he is saying is that although there are development reasons for doing what he did, his primary aim was to not win too many games.

that ended up well.



“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: BAILEY SACKED
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2011, 07:33:40 PM »
Fair bit of hysteria in this since he said it I reckon.

It's no secret coaches manipulate their sides to try and get picks, but until a player comes out and says we didn't try to win then it is a non issue.

And so there should be too. Of course everybody knows it, that's not the issue. The issue is that our fearless leaders repeatedly assured us that tanking wasn't happening when we all knew otherwise. And surprise, surprise, despite these admissions from Bailey, Adrian Anderson says the matter will be taken no further. The AFL has ZERO CREDIBILITY. I hope the media has the guts to turn the blowtorch on them.

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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2011, 09:02:38 PM »
Fair bit of hysteria in this since he said it I reckon.

It's no secret coaches manipulate their sides to try and get picks, but until a player comes out and says we didn't try to win then it is a non issue.

And so there should be too. Of course everybody knows it, that's not the issue. The issue is that our fearless leaders repeatedly assured us that tanking wasn't happening when we all knew otherwise. And surprise, surprise, despite these admissions from Bailey, Adrian Anderson says the matter will be taken no further. The AFL has ZERO CREDIBILITY. I hope the media has the guts to turn the blowtorch on them.

Agree RR

The tanking debate is back on! Hopefully the debate about whether Jordan McMahon's goal cost us Tom Scully will re-open too.

There are 2 issues for mine as a tiger supporter;
firstly can we aim to get compo in the form of a No.1 draft pick (Top 5 at worst) in return for this flagrant breaching of the spirit of the game, I don't know much about the afl legals, but a lot of sports codes have a 'spirit of the game' clause they can enact if a club cheats or breaks a rule that hasn't been written yet. AA can't just close the doors on it this easily imo. C'mon Benny we need to get aggressive in these areas! Collingwood do not get all of their favours off the AFL from being Mr Nice Guys, they get them from stirring up trouble when things like this come out. C'mon the Tigers.


Secondly, it reveals the psychological damage that tanking can do. It is fools gold.

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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2011, 09:12:11 PM »
The point is though, tanking only really exists if the players are doing it.
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2011, 09:20:47 PM »
if the coach plays players out of position and his primary aim is to loose, then that is tanking.

What he has admitted could never be proved... unless he admits it.

if under pressure he will simply say oh, our primary aim was to develop and we understood that would cost us wins.

what he said today seems to indicate otherwise though.

Fools Gold.  :lol Brilliant  :thumbsup
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« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2011, 09:26:16 PM »
The point is though, tanking only really exists if the players are doing it.

I agree to a certain point but what happens to a players psyche when they see Bailey put a Brad Miller on the ball and hide McDonald in the back pocket as they did against the tiges, they must be thinking that this coach is effen kidding himself, there is a loss of faith there somewhere, I think it helps explain why they are so wildly inconsistent and such sissies when they are losing.

Anyway what I think I am trying to say is that the players might be tanking and not even knowing it.

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« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2011, 10:30:32 PM »
At least Bailey didn't lose to the Bye in Round 18.
I don't have the link but check Port v Bye on YouTube.
You'll even get The Bye Club Song.

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Re: BAILEY SACKED
« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2011, 10:33:55 PM »
At least Bailey didn't lose to the Bye in Round 18.
I don't have the link but check Port v Bye on YouTube.
You'll even get The Bye Club Song.

It's hilarious

the song leaves Freo's for dead  ;D
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« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2011, 10:39:35 PM »