Steven Morris [merged]

[big tone]

Castagna sound like he fits the role but we'd need to elevate him first and, barring any LTI's,we can only elevate one before the season.

For me his foot skills are far too poor. Morris' are pretty bad too but I don't think they stink to the same level as Castagna.

Why do you think Castagna's footskills are so bad?
What did he go at by foot in 2014?
His highlights on the a RFC website show him to be a very good kick.
Just interested where you have got that opinion from.

[Yeahright]

I have to admit it's a very uninformed opinion going off what little footage I have seen of him but the highlight packages I have seen of him they have been horrible and that is meant to be his highlights

[Phil Mrakov]

Castagna sound like he fits the role but we'd need to elevate him first and, barring any LTI's,we can only elevate one before the season.

For me his foot skills are far too poor. Morris' are pretty bad too but I don't think they stink to the same level as Castagna.

Why do you think Castagna's footskills are so bad?
What did he go at by foot in 2014?
His highlights on the a RFC website show him to be a very good kick.
Just interested where you have got that opinion from.

He went at 100% poo kick. He's a freaking turno over merchant

[the claw]

Castagna sound like he fits the role but we'd need to elevate him first and, barring any LTI's,we can only elevate one before the season.

For me his foot skills are far too poor. Morris' are pretty bad too but I don't think they stink to the same level as Castagna.

Doesn't hurt to have a few more whipping boys in the team, it keeps the forum flowing

cmon chucky. the said for a good long period that they would not take players who ant kick or make too many poor decisions. not having a go at castagna but surely there were players out there who met our criteria of pace but can kick .
pretty simple rule is if by 18 they cant master the absolute basics of the game its unlikely they will at 20 or 22 or later.
for some of us the club breaks iots own rules it shouts out loud one thing and does the opposite. geez drummond is another if there is a sizeable knock on his game its his kicking,

its almost like we have several criteria or boxes that must be ticked but come crunch time we ignore the process we should go thru. if they dont tick the required boxes dont take em.

[Yeahright]

If there is a time to take someone with poor kicking but other good traits the rookie draft is the time to do it so I'm not really going to fault the club on that one

[(•))(©™]

If he's any good we'll never know because
Damien won't play him.

[Diocletian]

Ideally you want good footskills in the backline (well anywhere, but that's where poor disposal is most directly costly) but if Castagna can shut down a small forward at least as well as Morris does but is a better decision maker, doesn't over commit to contests or overrun the ball, is smarter with his positional play, doesn't give away silly frees and is quicker, he should be able to compensate for his (alleged)  poor disposal by foot better and will therefore be an upgrade.

Though at this stage it's all moot because most likely:

If he's any good we'll never know because
Damien won't play him.

[big tone]

I have to admit it's a very uninformed opinion going off what little footage I have seen of him but the highlight packages I have seen of him they have been horrible and that is meant to be his highlights

Not sure what highlights packages you are watching but take a look at the one on the RFC site. Doesn't miss a target.
I'd be interested to see what packages you have seen. Can you post a link?

[the claw]

Ideally you want good footskills in the backline (well anywhere, but that's where poor disposal is most directly costly) but if Castagna can shut down a small forward at least as well as Morris does but is a better decision maker, doesn't over commit to contests or overrun the ball, is smarter with his positional play, doesn't give away silly frees and is quicker, he should be able to compensate for his (alleged)  poor disposal by foot better and will therefore be an upgrade.

Though at this stage it's all moot because most likely:

If he's any good we'll never know because
Damien won't play him.

rather than take poorly skilled players id rather give a go to a bloke like andrew stephen at e/freo. hes a 23yo, has good skills and has been one of the better sml/med defenders in the wafl for two or three seasons.
if they are badly deficient dont touch em give a state leaguer a go or take a punt on a tall.

[Yeahright]

What did he go at by foot in 2014?

Apparently ~79% but I couldn't take you seriously if you trust kicking efficiency stats for any footballer.

Not sure what highlights packages you are watching but take a look at the one on the RFC site. Doesn't miss a target.
I'd be interested to see what packages you have seen. Can you post a link?

Watch the first 1:30 of this (or the rest if you want) and you'll see why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK7IYSZn9PM . Don't have to wait long for him to miss a simple kick as he does it the very first kick of the video. Then watch until 1:20 and you'll see him hit his first target by foot

[Diocletian]

Castagna sound like he fits the role but we'd need to elevate him first and, barring any LTI's,we can only elevate one before the season.

For me his foot skills are far too poor. Morris' are pretty bad too but I don't think they stink to the same level as Castagna.

Doesn't hurt to have a few more whipping boys in the team, it keeps the forum flowing

cmon chucky. the said for a good long period that they would not take players who ant kick or make too many poor decisions. not having a go at castagna but surely there were players out there who met our criteria of pace but can kick .
pretty simple rule is if by 18 they cant master the absolute basics of the game its unlikely they will at 20 or 22 or later.
for some of us the club breaks iots own rules it shouts out loud one thing and does the opposite. geez drummond is another if there is a sizeable knock on his game its his kicking,

its almost like we have several criteria or boxes that must be ticked but come crunch time we ignore the process we should go thru. if they dont tick the required boxes dont take em.

I agree santa but I'm talking about who on our current list could replace/fill-in for Morris in the back pocket/small defender role and how to make best use of what we've have on our list right now, not about who we coulda woulda shoulda taken....there'll always be plenty of other opportunities for that discusssion as a Richmond supporter....

[Muscles]

Based on those Youtube highlights, he'll have to improve massively by foot and by lots by hand.  He's got a steep improvement curve to climb.

[Yeahright]

Based on those Youtube highlights, he'll have to improve massively by foot and by lots by hand.  He's got a steep improvement curve to climb.

Yep and problem with kicking (like Claw said) is that chances are it won't improve at least not drastically. Hopefully it does though because the kid seems to have all the other tools to be a really good player.

[Gigantor]

kicking is a skill,all skills can be improved

[Yeahright]

It can, and I hope it does, but most times if you're a poo kick you're a poo kick. A lot more can be done with decision making skills which can help shade the fact someone is an average kick