Steven Morris [merged]

[Yeahright]

no  goal assists

Don't know if it comes up in the stats (it should IMO), but surely his tackle that lead to Lloyd playing on and kicking a goal is counted as an assist. That's why sometimes you have to take stat's with a grain of salt. Saying that, adding one assist to his name doesn't magically make his game a good one.

Houli cops a lot of flack because his defensive game is poor, but if he was allowed the same luxury as Morris everyone will be talking about how good a player he is because of the run he provides. He isn't though and, like every player should be, he is judged on his overall game. Batchelors another. Good at the small stuff but provides little run and get's fairly criticised for it. So why does Morris get to neglect one area of his game?

[pmac21]

Send him to Bob Murphy this week

[WA Tiger]

Send him to Bob Murphy this week

He would be absolutely creamed!!!

[(•))(©™]

Listen.
In fairness to morro,
It's not Morris's fault Hardwick has bestowed upon him such gargantuan tasks, or at least duties that lay beyond his abilities.

It's the coach somewhat validating his own worth as a player.
He thinks Morris is him when he was young.
This is why he favours him and has a deluded assessment of his limitations.

[Go Richo 12]

It has taken a number of days following this thread to ascertain the following;
Some people think Morris is poo, some people he is not poo. One of those people may or may not be the coach.
Can we leave thread alone now?

[Yeahright]

It has taken a number of days following this thread to ascertain the following;
Some people think Morris is poo, some people he is not poo. One of those people may or may not be the coach.
Can we leave thread alone now?

Funny how "the coach rates him" is a valid point to back up your own argument when you like a player, but when you don't like them the coach has no idea. Doesn't just apply to you I can think of a few others that have used that line

[(•))(©™]

I distrust the coach's assessments across the board.
Good is bad - Grigg
Bad is good - Miles, 

[Andyy]

FMD

F50 pressure is great.

But this guy runs around like a wacko cannon-balling himself into opposition player's legs in that endearing manner that I appreciated so much in 2013 when it was legal.

Pressure isn't enough. You don't pay a small forward JUST to apply pressure. They have to get some ball and kick goals too. If he had a dozen touches and jagged a goal then I'd say he had a decent game. But he didn't - okay I suppose Lloyd stole one of his goals but too bad.


Performance was a long way below the pass mark for me. Has time to prove himself but ideally I think he's best played as a defender. Should go straight to Dahlhaus this week and take him out of the stuffing game. That would satisfy me.

[🏅Dooks]

Wat and Claw, the dynamic duo!!

Why? because we have different thoughts to the sheep?

No

Perhaps it may have something to do with the fact that simply because people have different opinions to claw's in particular, that are constantly being told they are wrong, excuse makers rather than acknowledging it is simply a difference in opinion

Personally, I thought Morris was poor on Friday night that's my opinion but I am not going to whack people and constantly say they are wrong just because they don't agree with me. It's called debating/discussing the issue

Forums are opinion based doesn't make one person right all the time or wrong.

its also patently clear there are posters who defend players for the sake of defending them.it borders on disingenuity.

That statement is completely wrong and just shows your lack of understanding or willingness to entertain/fathom that opinions exist outside of your own.

Of all those sticking up for Morris's role, I (supposedly one of the main Debbie downers) am one. I was banned from this forum just over a week ago for being too negative against players and the club. If anything, most people will say i attack players for the sake of it. So to claim People defend players for the sake of it is wayyyyyyyy of the mark. I do see the merit in what Hardwick is trying to do. Will it work in the long run IDK.

That aside, just because you don't understand or agree with other people's viewpoints doesn't mean there is automatically no merit to their argument. And even if you think that there isn't, that's your opinion rather than necessarily being factual.

[Go Richo 12]

It has taken a number of days following this thread to ascertain the following;
Some people think Morris is poo, some people he is not poo. One of those people may or may not be the coach.
Can we leave thread alone now?

Funny how "the coach rates him" is a valid point to back up your own argument when you like a player, but when you don't like them the coach has no idea. Doesn't just apply to you I can think of a few others that have used that line

Trust me, I am not saying it and never have. I am being tongue in cheek. The thread is a dead horse and not getting anywhere.

[the claw]

Wat and Claw, the dynamic duo!!

Why? because we have different thoughts to the sheep?

No

Perhaps it may have something to do with the fact that simply because people have different opinions to claw's in particular, that are constantly being told they are wrong, excuse makers rather than acknowledging it is simply a difference in opinion

Personally, I thought Morris was poor on Friday night that's my opinion but I am not going to whack people and constantly say they are wrong just because they don't agree with me. It's called debating/discussing the issue

Forums are opinion based doesn't make one person right all the time or wrong.

its also patently clear there are posters who defend players for the sake of defending them.it borders on disingenuity.

That statement is completely wrong and just shows your lack of understanding or willingness to entertain/fathom that opinions exist outside of your own.

no its no. i understand fully that some think his game was okay im also pretty sure some are defending his game  for the sake of it.
thing is i could even understand if it was just a poor game but it was lousy horrid awful  and to me in this instance people are taking the pee or, if not taking the pee  imo are kidding themselves. im gobsmacked that people would dare try and defend that sort of game from any player it was that bad.

im accused around here of not giving credit where its due i can tell you now there are plenty who are guilty of not being critical when they should be instead defending the indefensible.

we all understand he was there to play as a defensive fwd, you think i havent even looked at the defensive side of his game and the role he was to play. im sorry he was poor even in that.  i can tell you now jake king never ever had a game that poor and he righly  copped criticism imo.

the bar is clearly set low and it seems there is little attempt by those doyens in charge to find a decent well rounded sml fwd. deficient below average role players is good enough it seems.

its not just morris who should answer or is to blame.  those in charge should take a good hard look at themselves as well.
when will we ever as a club stop accepting and then defending  mediocrity.

[Diocletian]

Arnot's stats in the same role last year included returns of 10,13,8 & 8* disposals, 3,6,9 & 2* tackles and even the odd goal (1,1,0 & 1*) with only two frees against across four matches. Yet he gets dropped, subbed off, dropped again and now finds himself stuck on the rookie list and playing for his future at 21 with many people declaring him a dud, while 26 y.o. Morris is getting bouquets from the Master Coach and armchair experts alike for his 3 disposals, 4 tackles,  5 frees against and zero goals. Go figure.

*subbed off at 3/4 time.

[Go Richo 12]

Do you have stats on Arnott's opponents for those games?

[eliminator]

FMD

F50 pressure is great.

But this guy runs around like a wacko cannon-balling himself into opposition player's legs in that endearing manner that I appreciated so much in 2013 when it was legal.

Pressure isn't enough. You don't pay a small forward JUST to apply pressure. They have to get some ball and kick goals too. If he had a dozen touches and jagged a goal then I'd say he had a decent game. But he didn't - okay I suppose Lloyd stole one of his goals but too bad.


Performance was a long way below the pass mark for me. Has time to prove himself but ideally I think he's best played as a defender. Should go straight to Dahlhaus this week and take him out of the stuffing game. That would satisfy me.

I agree his best position is in defence. To be a defensive forward you still have to offer something as a forward. To hold that position you need to be able to kick goals on a regular basis. Need to go back to the drawing board regarding a defensive forward.

[Jackstar is back!!!]

It's about time a few people on here go to the game and watch what actually occurs
I will put it in simple terms
Morris gets a opponent inside F50
If the opposition drops and extra back he goes and picks up the extra therefore 2 on 1
Our spare then plays up the ground through the corridor
Morris is therefore on 2 opposition players when the ball is in out F50
That's his role
And it worked last week