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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1095 on: April 08, 2015, 09:46:38 AM »
ffs no it didn't stop apologizing for the club form your own opinion


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Meanwhile, in the real world, it does raise the very interesting point about what metrics/KPI's we're running to.  There's got to be a KPI that if we slow them down in our forward 50, don't allow them to play on and we get one extra back in the midfield/defensive 50 zone how much fewer goals they score.  Wilbur alluded to that in the game review.

Very NFL like in some ways.

We make ourselves more efficient going forward and score X.  We make them less efficient and make them score Y.  If we get the "game on our terms", "get our processes right" then X > Y.  From what I hear from the players coaches etc. and yes I am remote, that seems to be the underlying/overarching principle.  If it works this could be a fun journey.

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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1096 on: April 08, 2015, 12:07:37 PM »
Cotchin on SEN talking about Morris ...


* I think the great thing about Morro is that every opportunity he’s near the footy, he’ll give his 100%.  It’s never 90% or 95%, it’s always 100 and that’s why we love him. Like any individual he’ll be disappointed with just three possessions in a game but what we’re saying from a team point of view, the pressure and perceive pressure that he puts on the opposition is going to have a massive impact this season. It’s just where the game’s going.  You want to turn the ball over as close to goal as possible to give yourself an opportunity to put another score on the board. Morro had been performing a really good role for us down back. It’s been exciting for him to learn a whole new role and it’s probably just given him that bit of fresh air that sometimes you need. He’s really enjoying his role and really enjoying learning but also teaching the younger guys how he goes about it.

Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-08/morris-a-man-on-a-mission

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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1097 on: April 08, 2015, 12:28:23 PM »
There you go - just invented a new stat called  "perceived pressure "

You go Morro !!
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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1098 on: April 08, 2015, 12:52:24 PM »
It's just where the games going.....lol
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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1099 on: April 08, 2015, 12:53:08 PM »
That's a beauty.
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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1100 on: April 08, 2015, 01:02:42 PM »
I will say again that being at the game you could see how intense Morro's defensive pressure was and how much impact it had on the blues' defense.

I'm not saying he had a good game but there is simply no one on our list that could apply as much defensive pressure. Arnott is too slow.  Morris is quick, and a psycho.

And I do not support players for the sake of it, Clawski. I have been critical of plenty of our players in the past and I will continue to do so if if I see fit.

I think Morro up forward should be persevered with, but he will need to improve offensively. I think he can.

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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1101 on: April 08, 2015, 01:14:34 PM »
stuffen Hardwick
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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1102 on: April 08, 2015, 02:28:36 PM »
Do you have stats on Arnott's opponents for those games?

Well I know that across three and three quarter matches they only received two frees, conceded 3 goals and got tackled 20 times.
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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1103 on: April 08, 2015, 02:43:06 PM »
Throw this man on the Bont this week. If a 185cm, 83kg Morris can nullify and make a 192cm, 85kg Bontompelli poo his pants when lining up for goal, and curb Dalhaus' influence also, I wouldn't be overly upset if he only has limited possessions.

He will need to improve his goal kicking sense and put it through the big sticks if he stays in the forward line but considering the tigers aren't very good at blocking/shepherding for each other, I'm happy to trial Morris a bit longer. I think players deserve at least 4 games to prove themselves especially in new roles. Important for team stability but also to send the right message for players finding their feet.


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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1104 on: April 08, 2015, 03:54:42 PM »
Morris to Dahlhaus.

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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1105 on: April 08, 2015, 04:07:26 PM »
Morris to Dahlhaus.

McIntosh to Bont!

Morris to Dahlhausb- GOAL!!!
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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1106 on: April 08, 2015, 06:56:50 PM »
Cotchin on SEN talking about Morris ...


* I think the great thing about Morro is that every opportunity he’s near the footy, he’ll give his 100%.  It’s never 90% or 95%, it’s always 100 and that’s why we love him. Like any individual he’ll be disappointed with just three possessions in a game but what we’re saying from a team point of view, the pressure and perceive pressure that he puts on the opposition is going to have a massive impact this season. It’s just where the game’s going.  You want to turn the ball over as close to goal as possible to give yourself an opportunity to put another score on the board. Morro had been performing a really good role for us down back. It’s been exciting for him to learn a whole new role and it’s probably just given him that bit of fresh air that sometimes you need. He’s really enjoying his role and really enjoying learning but also teaching the younger guys how he goes about it.

Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-08/morris-a-man-on-a-mission
reckon ive said my piece on his game so wont go on. but one point i was trying to get across was all clubs have sml fwds who ARE EXPECTED TO APPLY PRESSURE AND PERCIEVED PRESSURE. they are also expected to perform offensively as well. i cant even say morris  did the defensive work well, what with the falling over and badly laid tackles.

Trouble is other clubs also expect their sml fwds to keep their nfeet and kick goals and be heavily involved in the offensive side of the game.
if we only expect pressure acts from morris then we are settling for half a job. ffs anyone who has a bit of pace and lays tackles can do morris job.

arent people worried that the club comes out with this sort of dribble.

you know what not one person has mentioned the simple fact that if you kick a few goals as a fwd then you actually stop the run of your opponent.

when are we as a club going to come out and say
we expect our smaller fwds to be quick have good skills know where the goals are and importantly chase tackle harass and apply pressure. in a nut shell we expect our sml fwds to be well rounded in the entire role. why cant we expect that, other clubs do.

ive said it before if we are forced to play morris as a nothing  defensive pressure player, then we need to look at the other fwds and address the problems. fwd line pressure is a collective thing and not down to one man the fact we seem to think it is is a concern.

nearly every club did not have a problem fielding a well rounded sml fwd who performed both the offensive and defensive sides of the game. i know whats  ideal  and it certainly is not having a bloke like morris performing the role he did or before him king.

for cotchin to say morro gives 100% when hes near the ball is spin.and nothing more than a team mate defending a mates poor performance.is he saying all players dont give 100% and only one or two do.  if thats the case then we are in trouble. if any player cant give 100% when near the ball get rid of em.

go and have a look at the output of other teams sml fwds on the weekend and you will quickly see it is absolute folly for us to accept what morris gave us on thursday night.

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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1107 on: April 08, 2015, 07:11:32 PM »
I will say again that being at the game you could see how intense Morro's defensive pressure was and how much impact it had on the blues' defense.

I'm not saying he had a good game but there is simply no one on our list that could apply as much defensive pressure. Arnott is too slow.  Morris is quick, and a psycho.

And I do not support players for the sake of it, Clawski. I have been critical of plenty of our players in the past and I will continue to do so if if I see fit.

I think Morro up forward should be persevered with, but he will need to improve offensively. I think he can.
im happy with that, he was very poor imo both defensively and offensively my opinion  isnt going to change on that game.
 i think if hes only going to be a defensive fwd we are wasting our time.our fwd line has struggled to kick goals for so so long yet we fail to address it. we do more of the same thing that has failed time after time.

my  thinking is more skilled classier players can do the defensive side of things just as well as morris and give a real cutting edge offensively its this that we should be aiming for.



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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1108 on: April 08, 2015, 07:50:58 PM »
I will say again that being at the game you could see how intense Morro's defensive pressure was and how much impact it had on the blues' defense.

I'm not saying he had a good game but there is simply no one on our list that could apply as much defensive pressure. Arnott is too slow.  Morris is quick, and a psycho.

And I do not support players for the sake of it, Clawski. I have been critical of plenty of our players in the past and I will continue to do so if if I see fit.

I think Morro up forward should be persevered with, but he will need to improve offensively. I think he can.
im happy with that, he was very poor imo both defensively and offensively my opinion  isnt going to change on that game.
 i think if hes only going to be a defensive fwd we are wasting our time.our fwd line has struggled to kick goals for so so long yet we fail to address it. we do more of the same thing that has failed time after time.

my  thinking is more skilled classier players can do the defensive side of things just as well as morris and give a real cutting edge offensively its this that we should be aiming for.

Fair enough. Let's leave it at that.

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Re: Steven Morris [merged]
« Reply #1109 on: April 08, 2015, 08:12:33 PM »
In his weekly Dissection, Hardwick mentions he caused 6 or 7 turnovers that created 2 or 3 goals and as we all know, it doesn't matter if you kick them or create them, if your effort causes a goal then that's all the team and coaches are going to care about.  And if you were at the game then you could see how that was possible.  I've never spoken up as being a Morris apologist and in my original post days ago I said I would expect more from a pressuring small forward but I don't agree with Claw et al and the blanket assessment of him as a failure in that role last Thursday.  As I said in that post and Willy has re-iterated - you had to be at the game to see the work he was doing and effect he was having, regardless of how that panned out in the mainstream stats count, and to already make the call that the move has been a failure is wrong imho.  It might well end up that way but I can't agree with it based on last week's game.